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Iracani bijesni radi dogovora Asada i ISILa!
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Imagine if Iraq struck a deal with ISIS to relocate hundreds of terrorists away from the Iraq-Syria border to the Syria-Lebanon border.
#BREAKING: #Kurdistan to seriously monitor, investigate transfer of 'terrorists' near #Iraq-i border: Spox
Uvalio Asad i Hezb Abadiju i Kurdima ISIL teroriste koji su bili potpuno mirni na tim planinama! :D
Pictures of ISIS militants after being transferred from Syrian-Lebanese border to Syrian-Iraqi border after Hizbollah-ISIS deal:
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Iracani su u Mosulu blokirali hiljade boraca da ne mogu zdimiti u Siriju. Izgubili su par hiljada boraca samo u Mosulu. Elitna Zlatna divizija je pokosena. Zauzvrat, Asad im isporucio par stotina ISILovaca da im se nadje. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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sarajevoxxxx wrote:Čuj bio bi procesuiran da je laž :-) Pa svakodnevno se na račun administracije i američkog predsjednika iznese na desetine optužbi tipa ''odgovoran je za...'' i niko nikada nije procesuiran.
Pa sto bi onda Assad bi procesuiran, rekao neko u dzematu da je samo on kriv i to je tapija ??
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#83103 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Kikibombona wrote:
salik79 wrote:
Jah, a u sred Libana onaj savin omiljeni osnivac saudijskog Hezbollaha, Subhi Tufayli, pored onakvog Hizbullaha, najjace vojne formacije, moze govoriti sta mu je kurcu ceif, zastupati Saude i njihove koljace, i vec godinama slobodno setati Bejrutom.
Nisam spomenuo Liban.

Moze li se kritikovati Bashar Asad u Damasku i Ali Hamenii u Teheranu?

I sta kazes na osudu iz Bagdada na racun Asada i Hezbolaha radi dogovora sa ISILom?

Salice, da si ziv i zdrav, o tome imas gomilu clanaka na netu, doslovno desetine... Samo u google ukucaj 'Flynn, paid, turkey' i opleti...

Paid advocate Mike Flynn 'opposed military operation against Isis after objections from Turkey'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 42066.html

On iz materijalne koristi brani interese Turske. Vise Flin voli milion dolara nego Ameriku. Kurdi su se sjebali i sasrali kada je ovaj turski placenik izabran za savjetnika Trampa. Na srecu, brzo su ga pedalirali radi saradnje sa Turcima i Rusima.

Kako da ne moze. Doduse, nema se sta Alija Hameneija ni kritikovati, nego "rezim" na cijem je celu. Neces vjerovati, cak i zena smije kritikovati "rezim" i slobodno tumarati ulicama Teherana i biti CEO u Energy Pioneers ltd.. Imas intervju na bloombergu s njom. Malo je reci da joj ne fali dlaka s glave ;-)

Sto se Flynna tice, nisam upoznat, ali jedini izvor za tu tvrdnju je "the McClatchy news service reported." Who the fuck is McClatchy?

A Clark, ima li neki O'Brian, kao izvor za njega? :D
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#83104 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Kikibombona wrote:Iracani bijesni radi dogovora Asada i ISILa!
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Imagine if Iraq struck a deal with ISIS to relocate hundreds of terrorists away from the Iraq-Syria border to the Syria-Lebanon border.
#BREAKING: #Kurdistan to seriously monitor, investigate transfer of 'terrorists' near #Iraq-i border: Spox
Uvalio Asad i Hezb Abadiju i Kurdima ISIL teroriste koji su bili potpuno mirni na tim planinama! :D
Pictures of ISIS militants after being transferred from Syrian-Lebanese border to Syrian-Iraqi border after Hizbollah-ISIS deal:
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Iracani su u Mosulu blokirali hiljade boraca da ne mogu zdimiti u Siriju. Izgubili su par hiljada boraca samo u Mosulu. Elitna Zlatna divizija je pokosena. Zauzvrat, Asad im isporucio par stotina ISILovaca da im se nadje. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jah, tih 300 spartanaca su bas bitni i sve ce planove poremetiti, ne kontam sta je problem uopste sa ovim transportom.
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sarajevoxxxx wrote:Čuj bio bi procesuiran da je laž :-) Pa svakodnevno se na račun administracije i američkog predsjednika iznese na desetine optužbi tipa ''odgovoran je za...'' i niko nikada nije procesuiran.
General je iznio preozbiljne optužbe na račun Administracije iz koje je otjeran (2014-e) zbog alarmiranja i oponiranja tadašnjim proterorističkim trendovima. On je insajder a ne uličar koji treba da se poziva na Prvi amandman. Kao insajder bi krivično odgovarao da to nije istina, da je iznio laž. A istina je, jasno je kao dobar dan.

Njega je establišment prvog protjerao iz nove Administracije ne zbog Rusa (oni su samo povod) nego upravo zbog ovih tvrdnji koje je iznio u javnost a to je da se USA decenijama služe teroristima i terorizmom, te da su se u Iraku i Siriji služili terorizmom (terorističkim formacijama) kao oruđem svoje politike.


Stvar je jasna svakom ko želi da shvati o čemu je ovdje riječ.
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#83107 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Pored Iračkih šija i Kurda, zbog zadnjeg dogovora između Hezbollaha i Isila, bijesni su i sirijski Kurdi, što jeste dobro. Kurdi trebaju biti protiv režima, trebaju svu snagu usmjeriti prema izvoru zla.

Neki kurdski aktivisti i portali koji su osudili ovaj zadnji dogovor između Isila, režima i Hezbollaha.

https://www.facebook.com/raman.yusif?fref=ts
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#83108 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Challenger__ wrote:
sarajevoxxxx wrote:Čuj bio bi procesuiran da je laž :-) Pa svakodnevno se na račun administracije i američkog predsjednika iznese na desetine optužbi tipa ''odgovoran je za...'' i niko nikada nije procesuiran.
General je iznio preozbiljne optužbe na račun Administracije iz koje je otjeran (2014-e) zbog alarmiranja i oponiranja tadašnjim proterorističkim trendovima. On je insajder a ne uličar koji treba da se poziva na Prvi amandman. Kao insajder bi krivično odgovarao da to nije istina, da je iznio laž. A istina je, jasno je kao dobar dan.

Njega je establišment prvog protjerao iz nove Administracije ne zbog Rusa (oni su samo povod) nego upravo zbog ovih tvrdnji koje je iznio u javnost a to je da se USA decenijama služe teroristima i terorizmom, te da su se u Iraku i Siriji služili terorizmom (terorističkim formacijama) kao oruđem svoje politike.


Stvar je jasna svakom ko želi da shvati o čemu je ovdje riječ.
Pa i bivši američki ambasador u Siriji Robert Ford i mnogi drugi insajderi svako malo izjave nešto slično pa nikom ništa, to je sasvim normalno, daleko od toga da se zbog izjava tog tipa neko krivično goni, nema šanse.
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#83109 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Kako da ne moze. Doduse, nema se sta Alija Hameneija ni kritikovati, nego "rezim" na cijem je celu. Neces vjerovati, cak i zena smije kritikovati "rezim" i slobodno tumarati ulicama Teherana i biti CEO u Energy Pioneers ltd.. Imas intervju na bloombergu s njom. Malo je reci da joj ne fali dlaka s glave ;-)

Sto se Flynna tice, nisam upoznat, ali jedini izvor za tu tvrdnju je "the McClatchy news service reported." Who the fuck is McClatchy?

A Clark, ima li neki O'Brian, kao izvor za njega? :D
Kako nema, pa on je prvi covjek Irana?

Gdje ima da se prvi covjek rezima ne kritikuje?

Da li bi smio u Iranu reci da Ali Hamneii podrzava teroriste?

Ta kuca je objavila prva, poslije su objavili svi mediji. Za jedan iznos se tacno zna. Flin to nikada nije demantovao.

Flynn rejected Obama's offer to arm Syrian Kurds, something Turkey would oppose
Prior to Flynn making this decision, the Flynn Intel Group received $530,000 in payments from a Turkish-owned company based in the Netherlands and in March registered as a foreign agent with the Justice Department, acknowledging that the work may have benefited the Turkish government, according to foreign agent registration paperwork filed with the department.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/18/polit ... index.html

Flin je iskoristio poziciju da radi za interese Turske kako bi stekao licnu korist. Ne mrzi on Kurde, samo je covjek radio za novac. To su tipovi ljudi koji ce uraditi sve za licnu korist. Imamo ih mi ovdje na vlasti koliko hoces.

Nego, zasto ne prokomentarises razocarenje Abadija i Iracana jer su im Asad i Hezbolah uvalili ISIL teroriste!??
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#83110 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Kurdski tviteras Gilgo! :D
Neither US, nor Israel, nor any other mysterious force created ISIS. It was islamists themselves. This conspiracy is a real gold.
"US created ISIS"
Sure, Sweden created Klu Klux Klan.
You have every right to criticize US foreign policy and its role in rise of ISIS, but if you say US created ISIS you are simply a moron.
Inace, od 2 000 ispitanih Peshmerga boraca, oko 75% smatra je ISIL imao podrsku lokalnog stanovnistva u Iraku. Postavio sam na temi Irak clanak o tome.
Great news. Syriac children will be taught in Syriac from 1st to 6 grade in three schools in Cizre Canton. (ANHA)
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sarajevoxxxx wrote:Pa i bivši američki ambasador u Siriji Robert Ford i mnogi drugi insajderi svako malo izjave nešto slično pa nikom ništa, to je sasvim normalno, daleko od toga da se zbog izjava tog tipa neko krivično goni, nema šanse.
Ovdje je temeljno pitanje odgovor na pitanje da li su USA stajale iza ekstremista i terorista u Iraku i Siriji. Da, jesu. To znaš i ti (napisao si kako je "međunarodna zajednica poklonila ISIL narodu Iraka i Sirije") a kamo li prvi vojni obavještajac USA u to vrijeme.

Sada ubijaju svoju i svojih saveznika tvorevinu, ni prvi, ni zadnji put.


Sjeti se samo Sadama (koga su podržavali u ratu protiv Irana, a kasnije ga likvidirali kao psa).
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#83112 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Challenger__ wrote:
sarajevoxxxx wrote:Pa i bivši američki ambasador u Siriji Robert Ford i mnogi drugi insajderi svako malo izjave nešto slično pa nikom ništa, to je sasvim normalno, daleko od toga da se zbog izjava tog tipa neko krivično goni, nema šanse.
Ovdje je temeljno pitanje odgovor na pitanje da li su USA stajale iza ekstremistsa i terorista u Iraku i Siriji. Da, jesu. To znaš i ti (napisao si kako je "međunarodna zajednica poklonila ISIL narodu Iraka i Sirije") a kamo li prvi vojni obavještajac USA u to vrijeme.

Sada ubijaju svoje dijete, ni prvi ni zadnji put.


Sjeti se samo Sadama (koga su podržavali u ratu protiv Irana, a kasnije ga likvidirali kao psa).
Svi su odgovorni tu si u pravu, ali najodgovorniji od svih su vladajuće elite ili režimi u tim zemljama. Nikada i nigdje se nije skidala krivica sa naredbodavca ili onoga koji je direktno počinio zločin. Onaj ko je naredio zločin treba da i odgovara,ko je počinio masakre barel-bombama ili dozvolio da 500 Isilovaca zauzme grad ood dva miliona on treba da odgovara a ne neka nepoznata osoba iz tamo neke administracije ili pak sve pravdati teorijama zavjere. Zašto onda postoje sudovi, dokazi, istražitelji, svaki zločinac i svaki zločin možeš pravdati nekom zavjerom.

Isil je rezultat prije svega niskog nivoa savijesti i odgovornosti kod muslimana bilo Turaka ili arapa to u prvom redu, a onda možemo govoriti i o američkoj invaziji na Irak, Asadovim barel-bombama, selefijskom tumačenju islama itd. Visok procenat mita i korupcije, moralna i društvena zapuštenost, sve je to Isil ili početak Isila. Ako postoje privilegije, ako možeš sve novcem kupiti, ako je rasprostranjen mito i korupcija, znaj da je to temelj svih temelja ne samo Isila već svake druge radikalizacije.

Insistiranjem na zavjerama, silama dobra i zla, Rusija vs Amerika, mislim to je smiješno, ili postoji u crtanim filmovima. Zločini i genocidi se dešavaju i dešavali su se i prije i Rusije i Amerike, vrlo dobro se znaju imena zločinaca, imena naredbodavaca, pravdati zločine nekom višom politikom je prije svega nedostatak kućnog odgoja i minimuma savijesti.
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#83113 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Ako je verovati Listeru, što se tiče Jordana rat je završen.
Jordan had demanded that both groups (& all FSA under MOC command) bring all weapons back to Amman & totally cease anti-Assad postures.
Shahid Ahmed al-Abdo & Jaysh Usud al-Sharqiyah unite & reject Jordan’s demand to cede territory to Assad.
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Mjesto gdje je pogođen Isilov konvoj koji se kretao iz pravca Libanona prema Iraku. Isilovce su danas bombardovali avioni međunarodne koalicije:

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Čitalac wrote:Ako je verovati Listeru, što se tiče Jordana rat je završen.
Jordan had demanded that both groups (& all FSA under MOC command) bring all weapons back to Amman & totally cease anti-Assad postures.
Shahid Ahmed al-Abdo & Jaysh Usud al-Sharqiyah unite & reject Jordan’s demand to cede territory to Assad.
E sad je Asad najebao, ujedinise se Abdo i Usud! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Tens fighters of AshayerArmy (ClansArmy) escaped to #SDF areas after arresting 3 of their commanders by #Assad forces
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#Assad forces arrested TurkiAbuhamad, SalehAbuhamad & HamoudAbuhamad leaders of AshayerArmy (pro-Assad militia) and moved them to Homs.
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sarajevoxxxx wrote:Mjesto gdje je pogođen Isilov konvoj koji se kretao iz pravca Libanona prema Iraku. Isilovce su danas bombardovali avioni međunarodne koalicije:

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Da im dignemo spomen plocu na tom mjestu, sta velis ??
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Sirijci se masovno vraćaju u Siriju. Jordanski Al Ghad piše kako se u prosjeku svaka tri dana vrati oko 200 Sirijaca iz Jordana u Siriju.
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Današnja slika Sirijaca koji su se iz Jordana vratili u Deru

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Sta ovima fali, bas su moderno i demokratski organizovani ??
Hocemo da i Sirija bude ovako demokratska i moderna.. :oops:
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Imal nam dje carsafa iz Kafranbela pozelio sam da ih malo vidim :D .Nista revolucija , carsafi folovi golovi?
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Hezbollah i Isil:

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Jesul oni Kurdi bili prije par godina mozda i vise kad je izasao snimak da rodbina kamenuju djevojku do smrti jer joj je momak arapskog porijekla ?
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sarajevoxxxx wrote:Hezbollah i Isil:

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Propaganda, Hezbollah i Saudija idu zajedno to i ptice na grani znaju. Kakav crni Isil i Hezbollah, to su price za malu djecu.
Ipak uvijek na kraju nekako ispliva kao jedino posteno rjesenje da se sve to pripoji Izraelu jer jedino njima nista ne fali u citavom regionu, nadam se da se slazes ? :thumbup:
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Inside Assad's prisons: Horrors facing female inmates in Syrian jails revealed

Exclusive: Women who have survived rape and torture in Syrian government prisons are fighting back - and laying the groundwork for future legal battles against war criminals

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Abier Farhud, a victim of torture and abuse in a Syrian regime prison. She is among seven survivors who have filed a criminal complaint in Germany against secret service officials of Assad's government AFP

Zahira (not her real name) was 45 when she was arrested at her workplace in a suburb of Damascus in 2013. As soon as she arrived at Al Mezzeh Military Airport, she was strip searched, tied to a bed and gang raped by five soldiers.

For the next 14 days, she was raped, or threatened with rape, again and again and again.

During one interrogation, in which she says she was sexually penetrated in “every body cavity”, a soldier filmed what was happening and threatened to show it to her family and community.

Shunted from facility to facility over the course of five months, in addition to repeated brutal sexual violence Zahira was also regularly beaten. One one occasion she was electrocuted and beaten with a hose pipe; on another, tied upside down for over an hour and hit in the face.

Between interrogations at Al Mezzeh she was held in solitary confinement, in a cell no bigger than one metre by one metre, with no natural light.

In Military Intelligence Branch 235, she slept in a three by four metre cell with up to 48 other women that was so cramped the prisoners had to sleep in shifts. They were allowed to use the toilet once every 12 hours, and to wash once in every 40 days.

Zahira was only released from the notorious Adra prison when the conditions affected her health so severely she lost consciousness and was taken to hospital, her jailers fearing they’d killed her.

On arrival at a medical facility doctors found she had hepatitis, pneumonia and anaemia. She had to stay in hospital for four months for corrective surgeries for faecal-urinary incontinence caused by her repeated rapes.

The woman’s story is not easy to read. Experiencing what she went through is beyond the imagination of most of us.

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But Zahira, and dozens of other brave women, have shared their stories with a network of exiled Syrian doctors and lawyers, who have documented what happened to them in Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s prisons in a new report.

One pregnant woman, arrested because the government suspected her husband of supplying medicine to rebel forces, describes seeing dead bodies dragged through corridors, leaving them slick with blood. The screams of those being tortured still haunt her.

Another former detainee described being locked in a pitch black cell for six days with a dead body. A razor blade had also been purposefully left there, and she used it to try and kill herself.

The physical and mental scars from detention will affect these women for the rest of their lives. Many feel shame, and their relationships with their families and communities has changed because of the stigma attached to sexual assault and rape.

Their hope is that shedding a light on what happens in Assad’s detention centres will amount to international pressure to allow inspectors into the country and thus stop the government acting with impunity.

What their testimony also means, however, is that officials in Syria’s government, police and military could be held accountable for their actions in potential future war crimes trials.


“This might be the most powerful evidence we have, the international lawyers say,” one neurosurgeon and founding member of Syrian NGO Lawyers and Doctors for Human Rights (LDHR) said on the phone from Gaziantep, on the Turkish-Syrian border.

“This is one of our best chances to get justice for these crimes against humanity.”

There has been precious little in the way of legal redress for any of the victims of Syria’s complex six-year-old war so far. There are few avenues open to them.

Carla del Ponte, a distinguished international war crimes prosecutor, resigned from her position on the UN’s investigative panel into human rights abuses in the civil war earlier this month because she was so frustrated with its inability to hold criminals to account.

“I give up. The states in the [UN] Security Council don’t want justice,” she told media when it emerged she had quit.

The Security Council, she said, should have appointed a court similar to those for the Rwanda and Yugoslavian conflicts – a decision vetoed by permanent member Russia, which is a key backer of the Assad government.

While the investigative panel has compiled thousands of interviews and other documentation of possible war crimes committed by all sides in Syria, the work was pointless without a tribunal, she added.

“We have had absolutely no success” holding perpetrators of war crimes in Syria to account, the prosecutor said. “For five years we’ve been running up against walls.”

In March, a Spanish court agreed to hear the case of the torture and death of a 43-year-old truck driver at the hands of the Syrian government, because the man’s sister, a Spanish citizen, was the plaintiff.

Under international law relatives of victims of crimes against humanity committed elsewhere are also counted as victims – so the Spanish judge’s decision to hear it was viewed as an important landmark for potentially prosecuting high-level Syrian officials.

Guernica 37 International Justice Chambers, the Madrid-based legal advocacy group that bought the case, said in a statement it would “specifically allow the courts to investigate the torture and execution of thousands of civilians in the illegal detention centres” operated by the Assad government.

It could also mean international arrest warrants could be issued for the nine Syrian officials named in the complaint – meaning their assets could be seized or they could be charged if they travel abroad.

While the decision was reversed due to a split panel of Spanish judges last month, the case has been appealed. Stephen J Rapp, a former United States ambassador at large for the Office of Global Criminal Justice and current nonresident fellow at The Hague Institute for Global Justice, who helped to file the preceedings, told The Independent if necessary they would fight it to the Spanish Supreme Court.

“The attorneys of Guernica 37 are quite confident regarding the law and of eventual success,” he said.

“Given the years of pain that has been visited on tens of thousands family members of persons who have been forcibly disappeared into Syrian government custody this is also a very important issue of principle.”

Buoyed by the progress in Spain, Syrian victims and survivors now living in Germany have also filed a prosecution case based on an investigation by the NGO the European Centre for Constitutional and Human Rights (ECCHR).

This represents another type of case – one based on the concept of universal jurisdiction, which allows states to claim criminal jurisdiction over an accused person regardless of where their crimes were committed because of the severity of the allegations.

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More than 65,000 people are thought to have died in the Syrian regime’s prisons over the last six years, and thousands and thousands more have faced abhorrent treatment in detention. The allegations are crimes against humanity - and are thus too serious to tolerate jurisdictional arbitrage, the prosecutor will argue.

LDHR’s activists are hopeful that their findings – compiled under the Istanbul Protocol, the UN’s methodology on how to recognise and document signs and symptoms of torture so the documentation may serve as valid evidence in court – will be presented as evidence in future cases constructed on the same basis.

“There were too many women to choose from, with horrible stories, when we set about compiling this report," the LDHR doctor said.

“I have often felt powerless during the war. This is documenting our history, no matter how terrible it is, and probably the only way the Syrian people will ever have some justice.”

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#83125 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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sarajevoxxxx wrote:Pored Iračkih šija i Kurda, zbog zadnjeg dogovora između Hezbollaha i Isila, bijesni su i sirijski Kurdi, što jeste dobro. Kurdi trebaju biti protiv režima, trebaju svu snagu usmjeriti prema izvoru zla.

Neki kurdski aktivisti i portali koji su osudili ovaj zadnji dogovor između Isila, režima i Hezbollaha.

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Sta kazu na ova deal lavovi Tikrita jesul oni bijesni ??
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