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#82276 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:34
by JoseMujica
Slo Burner wrote: 01/05/2022 21:22 Mislim da dolazi vrijema kas ce Putin u igru ukljuciti svoje elitne i profrsionalne jedinice i pravu opremu !!!
sorry ali te jedinice čekaju jesen, suho lišće i kišnicu

#82277 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:40
by drug_profi
GAU8 wrote: 01/05/2022 20:37
Jeremija_Lesina wrote: 01/05/2022 18:59 Normalno da je posadi ništa.

Prvo odradi akrivno-reaktivna zaštita oklopa.

Ako je jači udar, Rusi su svoje tenkove opremili katapultima ko kod aviona.

Znači ako vidite padobran, katapultiirali su se a kupola se pritom odvojila.

Ako ne vidite padobran, znači da je aktivno-reaktivni oklop odradio.

Kakogod, posadi ništa.

:mrgreen:
Posada se momentaLno teleportira u onaj svijet.
Idu trenutno u drugo agregatno stanje. To ti je isto kao druga dimenzija.
A u Petrogradu u vojnom institutu za metafiziku rade uveliko na tome da se vrate iz tog agregatnog stanja nazad u kasarne.

#82278 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:41
by Jeremija_Lesina
JoseMujica wrote: 01/05/2022 21:34
Slo Burner wrote: 01/05/2022 21:22 Mislim da dolazi vrijema kas ce Putin u igru ukljuciti svoje elitne i profrsionalne jedinice i pravu opremu !!!
sorry ali te jedinice čekaju jesen, suho lišće i kišnicu
:izet:
I nakon zasluženog odmora na krimskim plažama. :idea:

#82279 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:42
by giannibelif
Nadam se da će ovaj "novinarski" pas rata koji izvještava za RTRS iz Donjecka i sa juga Ukrajine poginuti brzo.

#82280 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:44
by CrveniKuk
giannibelif wrote: 01/05/2022 21:42 Nadam se da će ovaj "novinarski" pas rata koji izvještava za RTRS iz Donjecka i sa Juga Ukrajine poginuti brzo.
Bolje bi bilo da ga Ukrajinci zarobe i onako dvije-tri priupitaju…

#82281 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:45
by Bossona
Ukrajinska 30-a. mehanizirana brigada samohodnom haubicom 122 mm uništila ruski oklopni transporter




Stiže teška dalekometna zapadna NATO artiljerija koja će da razvaljuje Ruse i njihovu ratnu mašineriju

#82282 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:45
by tovarish
JoseMujica wrote: 01/05/2022 21:34
Slo Burner wrote: 01/05/2022 21:22 Mislim da dolazi vrijema kas ce Putin u igru ukljuciti svoje elitne i profrsionalne jedinice i pravu opremu !!!
sorry ali te jedinice čekaju jesen, suho lišće i kišnicu
Armenci idu na taj pogon, Ruse pokreće lunch paket sa istekom roka, crveni luk i kiseli krastavac.

#82283 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:51
by pici
JoseMujica wrote: 01/05/2022 21:34
Slo Burner wrote: 01/05/2022 21:22 Mislim da dolazi vrijema kas ce Putin u igru ukljuciti svoje elitne i profrsionalne jedinice i pravu opremu !!!
sorry ali te jedinice čekaju jesen, suho lišće i kišnicu
evoinHa kod žike u emisiji nikad nije kasno, samo da otpevaju jednu pa ce na front...

#82284 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:52
by zigzag
JoseMujica wrote: 01/05/2022 21:09 An unofficial Russian source reported that Gerasimov sustained 'a shrapnel wound in the upper third of the right leg without a bone fracture.

'The shard was removed - there is no danger to life,' he said.

ništa strašno đeneralu...Mordor će ovo prešutiti...nikad neće potvrditi sve da je i bilo
Zar nije bolje da se pohvali. Da dobije željezni krst.

#82285 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:53
by CrveniKuk
geralt wrote: 01/05/2022 21:09 Image

Rezultati prve dvije sedmice ruske ofanzive nad ofanzivama. Ne, nije ista slika greskom kopirana.
Ovo nešto kao nadi razliku između dvije slike.

#82286 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:53
by drug_profi
JoseMujica wrote: 01/05/2022 21:34
Slo Burner wrote: 01/05/2022 21:22 Mislim da dolazi vrijema kas ce Putin u igru ukljuciti svoje elitne i profrsionalne jedinice i pravu opremu !!!
sorry ali te jedinice čekaju jesen, suho lišće i kišnicu
Maskirne uniforme su im zuto smeđe, pa ne mogu u proljece da ratuju. Samo jesen i to kasni sptembar/rujan, pa do kraja oktobra/listopada.

#82287 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:54
by EME91
Ima neki ludi srbin koji ratuje na strani Rusije tj. DNR- a a koji lupeta gluposti na kanalu youtube.

Slusam kaze odnos poginulih u jednom trenutku je bio 40 naprema 1 na stetu ukrajinaca. :lol: :lol:

Dejan Beric . Njega bih volio da suncokreti ubrzo amin. Lipeta gluposti i laze sto se kaze ko rus tj srbin.
A i ovog iz rtrs- a bi bilo odlicno vidjeti eliminisanog.

#82288 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 21:58
by zrakomlat
CrveniKuk wrote: 01/05/2022 21:53
geralt wrote: 01/05/2022 21:09 Image

Rezultati prve dvije sedmice ruske ofanzive nad ofanzivama. Ne, nije ista slika greskom kopirana.
Ovo nešto kao nadi razliku između dvije slike.
Samo 3% ljudi na svijetu mogu naći 5 razlika na slikama, provjerite da li ste jedan od njih :D

#82289 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:01
by Bossona
Svaki spašeni život je kao da spasite svijet, evo su uspjeli dio civila spasiti iz Azovstala uz pomoć ukrajinskih vojnika i ženevskog crvenog križa

#82290 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:03
by saimidin
SanskiBiser wrote: 01/05/2022 21:26

oko Harkiva rad 92 mehanizovane, posadi po krajiski "hamanha smalim" nista.
Ove dzidze su haman I bolje od tb2, mislim odnos cijena - dobiveno, nije neka tehnologija za napraviti, a pvo nema sanse da ga nadje/pogodi, ovo mora postati standardna oprema svake jedinice da ima po par ovih I da bere po liniji dan - noc, dobro mozda vise nocu jer ga tesko vidjeti bez opreme

Kontramjere takodje ce morati imati svaka jedinica, ljude koji gledju u nebo dan-noc, I skidaju

#82291 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:03
by drug_profi
zrakomlat wrote: 01/05/2022 21:58
CrveniKuk wrote: 01/05/2022 21:53
Ovo nešto kao nadi razliku između dvije slike.
Samo 3% ljudi na svijetu mogu naći 5 razlika na slikama, provjerite da li ste jedan od njih :D
Meni se cini da na mlađoj slici ima vise suncokreta.

#82292 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:14
by emirolini
zigzag wrote: 01/05/2022 21:52
JoseMujica wrote: 01/05/2022 21:09 An unofficial Russian source reported that Gerasimov sustained 'a shrapnel wound in the upper third of the right leg without a bone fracture.

'The shard was removed - there is no danger to life,' he said.

ništa strašno đeneralu...Mordor će ovo prešutiti...nikad neće potvrditi sve da je i bilo
Zar nije bolje da se pohvali. Da dobije željezni krst.
Ocekivano od Rusa da posalju ovakvog baju na ratiste, tako blizu linije na vruc teren. Glupo cak i za njih.

#82293 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:16
by CrveniKuk
drug_profi wrote: 01/05/2022 22:03
zrakomlat wrote: 01/05/2022 21:58

Samo 3% ljudi na svijetu mogu naći 5 razlika na slikama, provjerite da li ste jedan od njih :D
Meni se cini da na mlađoj slici ima vise suncokreta.
Kakav danak u neiskustvu. Pogrešno vam se čini. Pokušajte ponovo.

#82294 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:26
by GAU8
janje_ wrote: 01/05/2022 21:34
Slo Burner wrote: 01/05/2022 21:22 Mislim da dolazi vrijema kas ce Putin u igru ukljuciti svoje elitne i profrsionalne jedinice i pravu opremu !!!
Ja ba. Dosta je ovih nekih trecerazrednih specnaza, vdv-ovaca, wagnerovaca. Sad idu elitne postrojbe..
Samo da ne bude neki akt očaja, znate već šta mislim..

#82295 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:26
by Jeremija_Lesina
Ne sekirajte, se nije đeneralu ništa. Sređeno sve. Nije on džaba GerASIMOV.
:lol:

#82296 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:30
by zilog
Jeremija_Lesina wrote: 01/05/2022 20:30 Pardon, da ga sruše u Rusiji...moja greška
Ali, ko da rusi ne mogu nabaviti stinger već salju diverzante na bojište da maznu jedan.
Svejedno, htio sam reći da je glupa propaganda najefikasnija antipropaganda.
A, ako je ovo pak istina, onda su Rusi prekucali film Glup-gluplji.
Ne treba bilo koji Stinger, vec jedan od onih isporucenih Ukrajini. Podrzumjeva se da bi "nasli" "odbacen" lanser... :roll:

Glup-gluplji si imao odavno. Najsvjeziji primjer je ono hapsenje "neonacista", koji su kao trebali ubiti ruskog novinara:
Umjesto SIM kartica i "necitko potpisane" posvete na nacistickoj literaturi, uslikali igrice the SIMS i posvetu doslovno potpisanu sa "Potpis necitak" :roll:
Zar treba dalje? :pisnuo:

Ja mislio neka zajebancija, dok mi nisu dali originalan izvjestaj sa ruske televizije... :roll:

#82297 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:31
by Hame_
Potvrđeno - u napadu je ubijen glavnokomandujući ruskih vazdušno-desantnih trupa VDV, istih trupa koje su u Buči i Irpinu počinile ratne zločine. Ovaj napad nam govori još nekoliko stvari...

Ukraine Update: Russia is stuck, and they can't even blame it on the mud

For the second straight day, Russia lost more ground than it gained. Ukraine is pushing Russian forces around Kharkiv toward the international border. Mark Sumner made this map for his last update—blue cities taken the last couple of days, yellow ones under current Ukrainian assault.

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So Ukraine got some stuff around Kharkiv. What did Russia get? Nothing. While Russia shelled the entire line, as usual, Ukraine General Staff reported only a handful of ground attacks—pushes southwest (toward Barvinkove) and southeast of Izyum (toward Slovyansk), and ongoing fighting in Rubizhne and Popasna.

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If you’re wondering, “what’s going on with that push to the west of Izyum, in the wrong direction of their stated objectives?” Well, the answer is nothing! Did it run out of gas? Was it abandoned? Who knows! What we do know is that after a couple of weeks of increased op tempo, Russia has suddenly gotten really quiet the last couple of days. Not only has it been unable to deliver the promised and feared massive offensive, its current efforts are fizzling out.

The Pentagon says logistics are a big part of the problem, “The Russians have not overcome all their logistics and sustainment challenges, and we assess that they're only able [to] sustain several kilometers or so progress on any given day.” Thing is, Russia isn’t even moving a couple of kilometers per day. They’re stuck.

This is how much they’ve moved in two weeks:

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You might need to open that image in a new browser window, full-size, to see any of the scant changes. Given Ukrainian pickups around Kharkiv and Kherson/Mykolaiv, Russia may be at a net-negative in territory for those two weeks. This thing is a standstill. And what’s worse for Russia, even if they break through at Popasna or Rubizhne, then what? Ukraine just drops back to their next set of prepared defenses a few kilometers back, and we’re back to the daily grind, except now Russia has to run their supply lines a few kilometers further.

Remember, Ukraine’s defenses in Donbas aren’t a single line. They are layered deep.

As of now, Ukraine holds around 5,000 square miles of territory inside the administrative boundaries of the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts (the Donbas region). Vladimir Putin thought that would be fully taken for his May 9 parade. So yeah, let’s have a good laugh. But then let’s remember that the status quo has come at great sacrifice of Ukraine’s brave defenders, holding out under desperate, inhuman conditions, as well as many Russian and proxy forces that don’t want to be there, have no business being there, and are being sacrificed to Putin’s megalomaniacal designs.

Russia’s stalled advance means Ukraine can also wreak havoc on its rear lines, with artillery work that seems to improve by the week.



The general confirmed killed was the guy in charge of Russia’s VDV airborne troops, the same crew up in Bucha and Irpin committing heinous war crimes. He can rot. But this attack tells us a couple of other things:

1) The first hit is the command post, some sort of agricultural structure. It was specifically targeted, scoring a direct hit. We may be seeing the first of the suicide drones in action, or a direct-hit artillery smart round. Ukraine made sure that round hit dead on, and hit first, before the rest of the barrage took out much of the supporting gear and vehicles. They didn’t want anyone getting out alive. Coordinates 49.2902805019397, 37.23174981492426:

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2) That command post could’ve been set up in the residential parts of town, instead of that exposed complex. For once, Russia didn’t do a war crime, and it cost them. Then again, someone probably lived there at one point, so let’s not rule out war crimes just yet...

3) In a typical artillery attack, a battery fires a handful of one-off rounds, then spotters (now with drones) call in adjustments. It’s not just GPS coordinates that matter, but atmospheric conditions, earth’s rotation, wind speeds at various altitudes, etc. In this case, there was no spotter rounds. It was fire-for-effect from the start, with the guided round hitting just a split second before the rest of the barrage landed.

4) You can assume that the entire barrage was targeted at that command center, which gives you a good idea of artillery’s margin of error. For the M777s headed from the US and other allies, it’s around 150 feet from the target. Some of these rounds actually miss by more, so perhaps Soviet artillery is less accurate.

5) Not sure about Soviet artillery, but modern NATO artillery can shoot three rounds before the first one hits, and all of them hit at the same time. The guns make automatic adjustments as new rounds are loaded. The first round is shot higher, and the subsequent ones adjust downwards for shorter flight durations. That allows for the quick saturation of a target area, then quick departure before counter-battery radar can pinpoint the location of the guns and retaliate.

6) This command post was in the town of Zabavne, 8 kilometers north of Izyum. Take a look at the map below. This is what happens when Russia can’t protect its main supply line into the Izyum salient from Ukrainian flank attacks, and it’s only going to get worse with the arrival of Western artillery reinforcements.

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You know the irony? It’s looking like a pretty dry spring. The mud is drying out, and the skies have been clear—perfect weather for their air power. Doesn’t matter. They’re stuck, mud or not.

#82298 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:33
by Zumbul2
zrakomlat wrote: 01/05/2022 21:09
JoseMujica wrote: 01/05/2022 20:57 zatišje pred Bajram 100%
Centralnu bajramsku svečanost predvoditi će efendija Kadirov na lokalnoj gasprom pumpi.
:lol:

#82299 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:34
by Kyuss
zigzag wrote: 01/05/2022 21:52
JoseMujica wrote: 01/05/2022 21:09 An unofficial Russian source reported that Gerasimov sustained 'a shrapnel wound in the upper third of the right leg without a bone fracture.

'The shard was removed - there is no danger to life,' he said.

ništa strašno đeneralu...Mordor će ovo prešutiti...nikad neće potvrditi sve da je i bilo
Zar nije bolje da se pohvali. Da dobije željezni krst.
Mozda se sam upucao kad je vidio gdje je dosao. Gornja trecina desne noge, kost citava... 95% samoranjavanja je takvo.

#82300 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 01/05/2022 22:35
by zilog
JoseMujica wrote: 01/05/2022 21:09 An unofficial Russian source reported that Gerasimov sustained 'a shrapnel wound in the upper third of the right leg without a bone fracture.
'The shard was removed - there is no danger to life,' he said.
ništa strašno đeneralu...Mordor će ovo prešutiti...nikad neće potvrditi sve da je i bilo
Ovako su izolola poceli i za "Moskvu"... :mrgreen:
Kao u onom vicu: "Gerasimov poceo hodati po krovu..." :lol: