Ozimician wrote: ↑07/07/2023 18:08Ostali rade u "Spitzenmedizin"n+1 wrote: ↑07/07/2023 12:03 Kako sveukupno 18K njegovatelja, zar nije samo u posljednjih 3 godine otišlo 300 hiljada ljudi u Njemačku?
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Kao što rekoh mnogo puta dosad, najgora zemlja za preseliti je Njemačka, a evo i rezultati to potvrđuju.Results of InterNations most recent Expat Insider survey suggest that expats in Germany feel that much could be improved about their adopted home. Described as lonely and unfriendly, the federal republic has been voted in the bottom 10 destinations for expats to live in 2023.
The Expat Insider Survey 2023
The 10th Expat Insider Survey has been released by the German-based company InterNations, the world’s largest global expat network. This year’s survey asked 12.065 respondents from all over the world to rate expat life in 53 different countries according to five different scoring categories:
Quality of Life (travel, environment and climate, leisure options, healthcare and security)
Ease of Settling In (local friendliness, finding friends, culture and welcome)
Working Abroad (career prospects, salaries and job security, work culture and satisfaction)
Personal Finance
Expat Essentials (digital life, admin topics, housing and language)
Once again, this year’s ranking was topped by Mexico. Spain and Panama followed, where expats said they felt very at home, while Turkey, Norway and Kuwait came bottom of the ranking.
Expats praise Germany for job security at work
The responses of expats in Germany have placed the country 49th out of the 53 international countries included in the ranking. The country's attempts at digitisation going at a snail’s pace, “cumbersome public administration” and the struggle to find somewhere to live, were cited as the most common reasons for frustration.
One area of the survey where expats ranked their adopted home country as doing pretty well, was in working life. Overall, the respondents thought Germany’s job market provided many opportunities and appreciated that once they had found a position, they would be able to benefit from the job security offered by the country’s labour laws.
In the throws of a record-high skilled worker shortage, there is no lack of available positions for job seekers in Germany at the moment. Having recently passed the Chancenkarte reform, which will see the country adopt a points-based immigration system to encourage more non-EU skilled workers to fill vacant positions, it is clear that the coalition government are keen to boost Germany’s existing status as a go-to for jobseekers.
Government administration services cannot meet expat needs
However, the shortcomings mentioned by respondents in the survey reveal the extent to which Germany lacks sufficient infrastructure to welcome and support newcomers pre and post-arrival. A March 2023 survey, also by InterNations, in which 56 percent said they found it hard to deal with local bureaucracy and 58 percent said they struggled to find housing, was also considered by the company when ranking Germany in the Expat Insider Survey 2023.
With the head of Berlin's Immigration Office (Ausländerbehörde) calling his own institution nigh dysfunctional and local government in the German city deciding to put all applications for citizenship on hold while a seemingly ultra-efficient new office is built to deal with the 27.000 plus applications already in a backlog, the frustration of Germany’s expats is backed up with very real examples administrative disorganisation.
Severe lack of housing is another cause for complaint that is likely to get worse before it gets better. 58 percent of respondents said they struggled to find housing in Germany, 27 percentage points higher than the global average. Facing the worst housing shortage in 20 years, President of the German Property Federation Andreas Mattner has stressed that “1,4 million people will be looking for a flat in 2024 and won’t be able to find one if we don’t turn things around immediately”.
Expats in Germany are unhappy and lonely
While job opportunities ebb and flow and digitisation in Germany expands, albeit at a sluggish pace, expats' responses to one aspect of living in Germany have remained consistent over the 10 years that InterNations has asked for feedback about the country.
“In the last decade of the Expat Insider survey, Germany has always ranked among the bottom 10 countries for Finding Friends and the friendliness of the locals,” the report pointed out. With Berlin and Munich having recently been voted among the top 10 most friendly holiday destinations in Europe, it seems as though Germany has a distinctly different attitude to those who are passing through and those who want to stay and pay their taxes.
30 percent said that people in Germany are not friendly towards foreign residents (compared to 18 percent globally), and 55 percent find it difficult to make local friends (versus 36 percent globally). Overall, 32 percent said that they do not have a personal support network, the same percentage as those who said that they do not feel at home in Germany.
The final cherry on the Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte of expat woes? 60 percent said they find it difficult to learn German.
The most attractive expat destinations in the world 2023
According to InterNations, the top 10 countries around the world for expats in 2023 are as follows:
Mexico
Spain
Panama
Malaysia
Taiwan
Thailand
Costa Rica
Philippines
Bahrain
Portugal
For more information on the survey, including a detailed breakdown of the scores, visit the InterNations website.
Realno smo zapad sad vec za rumuniju, a i dijelovi bugarske su vise sirija nego evropa.
Za Rumuniju smo zapad jedino geografski, a sto se tice standarda i razvijenosti tu definitvno nismo zapad za njih.Bodkin wrote: ↑12/07/2023 13:06Realno smo zapad sad vec za rumuniju, a i dijelovi bugarske su vise sirija nego evropa.
Ali mislim da je veci problem prodati glasackom tijelu novu EU clanicu koju valja finansirati. A uz to jos vecinski muslimanska
A u desnicara me evropa i njen liberalizam pretvorila
A ti ga bas ne mores dvije stranice a da ne ocrnis DuitslandDidier wrote: ↑12/07/2023 09:00 https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/germ ... ies-survey
Kao što rekoh mnogo puta dosad, najgora zemlja za preseliti je Njemačka, a evo i rezultati to potvrđuju.Results of InterNations most recent Expat Insider survey suggest that expats in Germany feel that much could be improved about their adopted home. Described as lonely and unfriendly, the federal republic has been voted in the bottom 10 destinations for expats to live in 2023.
The Expat Insider Survey 2023
The 10th Expat Insider Survey has been released by the German-based company InterNations, the world’s largest global expat network. This year’s survey asked 12.065 respondents from all over the world to rate expat life in 53 different countries according to five different scoring categories:
Quality of Life (travel, environment and climate, leisure options, healthcare and security)
Ease of Settling In (local friendliness, finding friends, culture and welcome)
Working Abroad (career prospects, salaries and job security, work culture and satisfaction)
Personal Finance
Expat Essentials (digital life, admin topics, housing and language)
Once again, this year’s ranking was topped by Mexico. Spain and Panama followed, where expats said they felt very at home, while Turkey, Norway and Kuwait came bottom of the ranking.
Expats praise Germany for job security at work
The responses of expats in Germany have placed the country 49th out of the 53 international countries included in the ranking. The country's attempts at digitisation going at a snail’s pace, “cumbersome public administration” and the struggle to find somewhere to live, were cited as the most common reasons for frustration.
One area of the survey where expats ranked their adopted home country as doing pretty well, was in working life. Overall, the respondents thought Germany’s job market provided many opportunities and appreciated that once they had found a position, they would be able to benefit from the job security offered by the country’s labour laws.
In the throws of a record-high skilled worker shortage, there is no lack of available positions for job seekers in Germany at the moment. Having recently passed the Chancenkarte reform, which will see the country adopt a points-based immigration system to encourage more non-EU skilled workers to fill vacant positions, it is clear that the coalition government are keen to boost Germany’s existing status as a go-to for jobseekers.
Government administration services cannot meet expat needs
However, the shortcomings mentioned by respondents in the survey reveal the extent to which Germany lacks sufficient infrastructure to welcome and support newcomers pre and post-arrival. A March 2023 survey, also by InterNations, in which 56 percent said they found it hard to deal with local bureaucracy and 58 percent said they struggled to find housing, was also considered by the company when ranking Germany in the Expat Insider Survey 2023.
With the head of Berlin's Immigration Office (Ausländerbehörde) calling his own institution nigh dysfunctional and local government in the German city deciding to put all applications for citizenship on hold while a seemingly ultra-efficient new office is built to deal with the 27.000 plus applications already in a backlog, the frustration of Germany’s expats is backed up with very real examples administrative disorganisation.
Severe lack of housing is another cause for complaint that is likely to get worse before it gets better. 58 percent of respondents said they struggled to find housing in Germany, 27 percentage points higher than the global average. Facing the worst housing shortage in 20 years, President of the German Property Federation Andreas Mattner has stressed that “1,4 million people will be looking for a flat in 2024 and won’t be able to find one if we don’t turn things around immediately”.
Expats in Germany are unhappy and lonely
While job opportunities ebb and flow and digitisation in Germany expands, albeit at a sluggish pace, expats' responses to one aspect of living in Germany have remained consistent over the 10 years that InterNations has asked for feedback about the country.
“In the last decade of the Expat Insider survey, Germany has always ranked among the bottom 10 countries for Finding Friends and the friendliness of the locals,” the report pointed out. With Berlin and Munich having recently been voted among the top 10 most friendly holiday destinations in Europe, it seems as though Germany has a distinctly different attitude to those who are passing through and those who want to stay and pay their taxes.
30 percent said that people in Germany are not friendly towards foreign residents (compared to 18 percent globally), and 55 percent find it difficult to make local friends (versus 36 percent globally). Overall, 32 percent said that they do not have a personal support network, the same percentage as those who said that they do not feel at home in Germany.
The final cherry on the Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte of expat woes? 60 percent said they find it difficult to learn German.
The most attractive expat destinations in the world 2023
According to InterNations, the top 10 countries around the world for expats in 2023 are as follows:
Mexico
Spain
Panama
Malaysia
Taiwan
Thailand
Costa Rica
Philippines
Bahrain
Portugal
For more information on the survey, including a detailed breakdown of the scores, visit the InterNations website.
Nas GDP per capita vazi za 3,5 miliona stanovnika. Kada bi se GDP podijelio na realni broj stanovnika, vidjela bi se jasna razlika.Dope_Man wrote: ↑12/07/2023 13:48 Ljudi imaju duplo veci GDP per capita od BiH i neko kaze da je BiH zapad za njih?
Da ne ulazimo u detalje industrije itd.. u svakom parametru ispred BiH. Jeste, Rumunija i Bugarska su i dalje sirotinja u kontekstu EU, al BiH da udje sutra, bila bi najveci prosjak u toj istoj EU. U nekim stvarima nisu daleko, u nekima su puno ispred, al sto je najvaznije obje su u EU i mogu u bilo kom trenutku da se uozbilje i snazno zagrabe naprijed koristeci EU fondove.
Tako da.. nemojte se provaljivati pojedini, osim ako niste mislili strogo geografski sto rece @konoplja
Nope. Da nas je 2.5 mil imali bi GDP per capita oko 9.5 hiljada umjesto sadasnjih ~ 7.2k. Sto je opet debelo ispod Rumunjskih 14.8k.sehohari wrote: ↑12/07/2023 13:54Nas GDP per capita vazi za 3,5 miliona stanovnika. Kada bi se GDP podijelio na realni broj stanovnika, vidjela bi se jasna razlika.Dope_Man wrote: ↑12/07/2023 13:48 Ljudi imaju duplo veci GDP per capita od BiH i neko kaze da je BiH zapad za njih?
Da ne ulazimo u detalje industrije itd.. u svakom parametru ispred BiH. Jeste, Rumunija i Bugarska su i dalje sirotinja u kontekstu EU, al BiH da udje sutra, bila bi najveci prosjak u toj istoj EU. U nekim stvarima nisu daleko, u nekima su puno ispred, al sto je najvaznije obje su u EU i mogu u bilo kom trenutku da se uozbilje i snazno zagrabe naprijed koristeci EU fondove.
Tako da.. nemojte se provaljivati pojedini, osim ako niste mislili strogo geografski sto rece @konoplja
Nije mi ovo prije palo na pamet ali u pravu si.sehohari wrote: ↑12/07/2023 13:54Nas GDP per capita vazi za 3,5 miliona stanovnika. Kada bi se GDP podijelio na realni broj stanovnika, vidjela bi se jasna razlika.Dope_Man wrote: ↑12/07/2023 13:48 Ljudi imaju duplo veci GDP per capita od BiH i neko kaze da je BiH zapad za njih?
Da ne ulazimo u detalje industrije itd.. u svakom parametru ispred BiH. Jeste, Rumunija i Bugarska su i dalje sirotinja u kontekstu EU, al BiH da udje sutra, bila bi najveci prosjak u toj istoj EU. U nekim stvarima nisu daleko, u nekima su puno ispred, al sto je najvaznije obje su u EU i mogu u bilo kom trenutku da se uozbilje i snazno zagrabe naprijed koristeci EU fondove.
Tako da.. nemojte se provaljivati pojedini, osim ako niste mislili strogo geografski sto rece @konoplja
Pa to sto zemlja Bosna i Hercegovina ne zna, i ne smije da sazna, cak ni pravi broj gradjana takodjer daje odgovor na pitanje iz ove teme.
Ako vjerujes podacima Svjetske banke onda da, imaju 15k GDP per capita.
Mislim da u čitavoj BiH ne živi vise od 2 miliona stanovnika. No brz obzira na broj stanovnika, Bosna je svjetlosnim godinama iza rumunije.
Nisam zelio tako mali broj uzeti - 2.5 miliona je vec dovoljno kontroverzno. Mnogi se nece sloziti da nas je tako malo. U svakom slucaju da je i 2 miliona u BiH opet bi GDP per capita bio nizi od Rumunjskog.
Pokazao sam ti kako odvaditi kad napises glupost poput "Realno smo zapad sad vec za rumuniju, a i dijelovi bugarske su vise sirija nego evropa."
Pa buraz, zamisli dođeš i radiš samo za platu, živiš u unajmljenom stanu i čekaš osam do deset godina za državljanstvo, plus se onda moraš odreći svog...
