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Presmješna je tvrdnja da je šef tako moćne agencije (DIA) u Obaminoj administraciji (2012-2014) "turski čovjek". Turska je sasvim nebitna u cijeloj priči. Naravno, nije ni "ruski čovjek". Nije on prinuđen da da ostavku zbog Rusa, već zbog toga što je rekao popu-pop, bobu-bob:

Challenger__ wrote:- Tvrdio sam da su ihvanije i AQ akvizicija Obamine administracije. Evo šta kaže bivši šef DIA:

Former DIA Chief Michael Flynn Says Rise Of ISIS Was A "Willful Decision" Of US Government

LINK

To mu ne oprašta "deep state", agencije mu ne opraštaju tezu o neophodnosti reformi, sada su na svome oni koji u Rusima vide svoje arhineprijatelje.


Ova iznuđena ostavka nam govori nešto sasvim drugo: "bara" je kudikamo jača od Trumpa, Trump je nejak. Slab.

Pandakonda wrote:Its going down boisss

Trump expects Russia to ‘return Crimea' – White House


https://www.rt.com/usa/377346-spicer-ru ... rn-crimea/

Izdaja bre!

sto vise kleveta i lazi
donald nam je vise drazi

Comentar sa FB.

*What is Russia's number 1 export? Fossil fuels (Oil and Coal)
*Who is Trump's Secretary of State? Rex Tillerson
*Where did Tillerson come from? Exxon Mobile
*Who gave Tillerson a partnership award? Vladimir Putin
*Who secretly spent billions for a 20% share in Russia's largest oil company and is hiding their identity in a Caman Islands? Could it be Exxon Mobile??
*Who governs the Caman islands? Britain
*Who was one of the first foreign officials Trump met with? Uber conservative British prime minister Theresa May
*To whom has Trump pledged unwavering support? Japan
*Who is the largest importer of fossil fuels outside of china? Japan
*Where does Japan rely for fossil fuels? The Middle East
*Who is Trump at war with? The Middle East.
*Who would generate billions from selling fossil fuels to Japan? Exxon mobile
*Who wanted to sell oil to Taiwan? Donald Trump
*Who slapped him in the face for trying to develop business relations with Taiwan? China
*Who has Trump trashed throughout his campaign? China
*Why has he trashed China? Because they get oil from Saudi Arabia and don't pay Russia enough for oil.
*Who is deregulating the fossil fuel industry? Donald Trump
*Who allowed the Dakota pipeline to proceed? Donald Trump.
*Who secretly promised to relieve Obama's sanctions against Russia? Mike Flynn
*Who wants Flynn's fall to be a "trust" issue? Donald Trump
*Why does trump want this to be a "trust" issue? Because a legal issue means an investigation which may reveal secret oil deals in place with Russia
*What does this add up to?
Donald Trump and Rex Tillerson, representing Exxon Mobile, have a fossil fuel deal in place worth billions in personal kickbacks and currently there are business deals led by Trump and Tillerson being negotiated to sell Russia's oil in the US, Japan, and Europe.
**Who owns this president? Exxon mobile
-The end.-

Kao što se dalo pretpostaviti, oni koji su iznudili ostavku Flynna ne posustaju. Sada terete Trumpa da su mu savjetnici, tokom kampanje, "bili u kontaktu sa Rusima". Manje-više, traži se pravni osnov za impeachment. U najmanju ruku, vrši se pritisak da se smjernice ove administracije usklade sa težnjama "deep state" ili da se izrazim kao J. Carter, u skladu sa planovima oligarhije.

Rekao sam ja, neće se ovo tek tako završiti...

Challenger__ wrote:Kao što se dalo pretpostaviti, oni koji su iznudili ostavku Flynna ne posustaju. Sada terete Trumpa da su mu savjetnici, tokom kampanje, "bili u kontaktu sa Rusima". Manje-više, traži se pravni osnov za impeachment. U najmanju ruku, vrši se pritisak da se smjernice ove administracije usklade sa težnjama "deep state" ili da se izrazim kao J. Carter, u skladu sa planovima oligarhije.

Rekao sam ja, neće se ovo tek tako završiti...

Završilo se već

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/p ... hone-share

WASHINGTON — Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.

American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time they were discovering evidence that Russia was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

Problem je samo što je lik išao administraciji iza leđa:

FBI reviewed Flynn’s calls with Russian ambassador but found nothing illicit

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 4b7082802b

Pandakonda wrote:

Challenger__ wrote:Kao što se dalo pretpostaviti, oni koji su iznudili ostavku Flynna ne posustaju. Sada terete Trumpa da su mu savjetnici, tokom kampanje, "bili u kontaktu sa Rusima". Manje-više, traži se pravni osnov za impeachment. U najmanju ruku, vrši se pritisak da se smjernice ove administracije usklade sa težnjama "deep state" ili da se izrazim kao J. Carter, u skladu sa planovima oligarhije.

Rekao sam ja, neće se ovo tek tako završiti...

Završilo se već

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/p ... hone-share

WASHINGTON — Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.

American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time they were discovering evidence that Russia was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

Evo kako Trump sve to komentariše na svom zvaničnom twitter nalogu:

- The fake news media is going crazy with their conspiracy theories and blind hatred. @MSNBC & @CNN are unwatchable. @foxandfriends is great!

- This Russian connection non-sense is merely an attempt to cover-up the many mistakes made in Hillary Clinton's losing campaign.

- Information is being illegally given to the failing @nytimes & @washingtonpost by the intelligence community (NSA and FBI?).Just like Russia

LINK

To onaj isti @FBI koji je nedavno hvalio?

Challenger__ wrote:Kao što se dalo pretpostaviti, oni koji su iznudili ostavku Flynna ne posustaju. Sada terete Trumpa da su mu savjetnici, tokom kampanje, "bili u kontaktu sa Rusima". Manje-više, traži se pravni osnov za impeachment. U najmanju ruku, vrši se pritisak da se smjernice ove administracije usklade sa težnjama "deep state" ili da se izrazim kao J. Carter, u skladu sa planovima oligarhije.

Rekao sam ja, neće se ovo tek tako završiti...

Checks and balances my friend, checks and balances...
Nije mu ovo monarhija da lupa kako hoce.

Challenger__ wrote:
Evo kako Trump sve to komentariše na svom zvaničnom twitter nalogu:

- The fake news media is going crazy with their conspiracy theories and blind hatred. @MSNBC & @CNN are unwatchable. @foxandfriends is great!

- This Russian connection non-sense is merely an attempt to cover-up the many mistakes made in Hillary Clinton's losing campaign.

- Information is being illegally given to the failing @nytimes & @washingtonpost by the intelligence community (NSA and FBI?).Just like Russia

LINK

Neko je napisao dobar post ovdje da Trump sa ovakvim tweetovima samo ispada nesiguran i sad kad je predsjednik treba malo "odvadit" sa tim, lik bukvalno skače sam sebi u stomak.

Fudo387 wrote:Checks and balances my friend, checks and balances...

Mislim da ovaj put imamo nešto više od demokratskih mehanizama.

Pandakonda wrote:
Završilo se već


The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

Zavrsilo?
Koji dio od "so far" nisi shvatio?

Challenger__ wrote:

Fudo387 wrote:Checks and balances my friend, checks and balances...

Mislim da ovaj put imamo nešto više od demokratskih mehanizama.

Svi mehanizmi su u funkciji.
Prerano ste se poceli radovati saveznistvu sa Rusijom , cudim se tebi, mislio sam da si upuceniji u nacin na koji ovo sve funkcionise.

jeza u ledja wrote:

Pandakonda wrote:
Završilo se već


The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

Zavrsilo?
Koji dio od "so far" nisi shvatio?

Kladimo se da ni do kraja neće ništa pronaći ?

Pandakonda wrote:

jeza u ledja wrote:

Pandakonda wrote:
Završilo se već


The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

Zavrsilo?
Koji dio od "so far" nisi shvatio?

Kladimo se da ni do kraja neće ništa pronaći ?

Nije to pitanje vec onog sto si ti ustvrdio na osnovu onog sto je napisano.

Fudo387 wrote:Svi mehanizmi su u funkciji.
Prerano ste se poceli radovati saveznistvu sa Rusijom , cudim se tebi, mislio sam da si upuceniji u nacin na koji ovo sve funkcionise.

Ničemu se ja nisam radovao i sve ovo gledam sa distance, bez ikakvih emocija. Šta više, ako iko zna da sam tvrdio da sve ovo neće olako proći, znaš ti. Tebi se čudim što to pišeš.

Pandakonda wrote:Kladimo se da ni do kraja neće ništa pronaći ?

Da, onaj generalisimus je tek tako dao otkaz.

Challenger__ wrote:Ničemu se ja nisam radovao i sve ovo gledam sa distance, bez ikakvih emocija. Šta više, ako iko zna da sam tvrdio da sve ovo neće olako proći, znaš ti. Tebi se čudim što to pišeš.

Pa ne znam, meni su ucinilo da ponekad otvoreno navijas za proruske interese...
Ok, mozda mi se samo ucinilo.

Fudo387 wrote:Pa ne znam, meni su ucinilo da ponekad otvoreno navijas za proruske interese...
Ok, mozda mi se samo ucinilo.

Podlegao si Ježovoj paranoidnoj vizuri.



U Upanišadama ima jedna zanimljiva priča. Višnu se pretvorio u divlje krme da bi ubio tiranina. Sada nariče brat tiranina i prigovara Višnuu da je nepravedan i pristrasan. Objasni mu Višnu da je njegov brat unio neravnotežu svojim tiranskim postupcima pa je odlučio da ga likvidira da bi povratio ravnotežu u Univerzum.

Moj narativ je samo posljedica jedne kontre jednodimenzionalnom pristupu, narativ ravnoteže pristupa a ne interesni narativ. Lična naklonost prema njihovoj, engleskoj, njemačkoj, iranskoj, arapskoj... kulturi je sasvim druga dimenzija ličnosti, odvojena od političke ličnosti.


Što bi rekao moj omiljeni ex-kongroesmen Ron Paul: "I'm not pro-Russian, I'm pro-fact".

Challenger__ wrote:Što bi rekao moj omiljeni ex-kongroesmen Ron Paul: "I'm not pro-Russian, I'm pro-fact".

Pfffffffff
Ron Paul je kompletni idiot.

Fudo387 wrote:Pfffffffff
Ron Paul je kompletni idiot.

Možda. Ali tamo negdje 2007, 2008 sam pratio njegov rad a imao sam priliku i da ga lično slušam. Ostavio je, tada, na mene jak utisak.

Challenger__ wrote:

Fudo387 wrote:Pfffffffff
Ron Paul je kompletni idiot.

Možda. Ali tamo negdje 2007, 2008 sam pratio njegov rad a imao sam priliku i da ga lično slušam. Ostavio je, tada, na mene jak utisak.

Americka verzija Atifa Purivatre.

Nebitno. Tada je to bila isključivo američka priča. Njegova nejaka kandidatura je prekinula moja interesovanja za njegov rad. S vremena na vrijeme bih naletio na neke njegove opservacije i to je to.

Svidjelo mi se što se njegov sin, Rand, usprotivio ideji intervencije na Siriju (2013) i tada sam njega (Randa) stavio na avatar.

Challenger__ wrote:Svidjelo mi se što se njegov sin, Rand, usprotivio ideji intervencije na Siriju (2013) i tada sam njega (Randa) stavio na avatar.

Bas me sad cudi sto si ga zagotivio.