Holandija - Španija

[jeza u ledja]

Ova hobotnica je pogodila svih 6 puta do sada. Sanse za tako nesto su otprilike 1.5%.

Meni sve nesto ko da ce Holandija pobjedit, mada realno Spanija bi ih trebala rasturit, a i volio bih.

[Topla voda]

ne bi navijao za repku u kojoj igra van bommel nema tih para

[neprilagodjena]

Jel' se izjasnio Don Paulito?

Ovo nije ni fotosop, ovo je radjeno u paintu.

Paul se upravo izjasnio, cekali su da ogladni jer je vec prognozirao njemacku, a prognoza je:



Holandjani ne moraju ni dolaziti na finale

Njemci bi najradije da ga grilaju

[Bosanski_kralj]

ne bi navijao za repku u kojoj igra van bommel nema tih para

Ni ja u kojoj igra Iniesta.

[Obuca9]

Trebalo bi i kod nas da se javi neko sa kravom ili volom i dvije contre vode, sa dvije zastave i iz koje se krava napije taj dobija. Ali obavezno snimiti obje verzije, pa kad zavrsi tekma poslati u svijet one prave slike "Vidovita Šarulja" ili "Vidoviti Garonja"

Evo da citiram sam sebe, dok se niko naš nije sjetio da predstavi Šarulju ili Garonju, sjetili se moćni Srbi da predstave svoju zebru Tika



http://www.kurir-info.rs/sport/zebra-ti ... -41016.php

[jeza u ledja]

ne bi navijao za repku u kojoj igra van bommel nema tih para

Ni ja u kojoj igra Iniesta.

Sta fali Iniesti?

Jedan od najskromnijih i najprizemnijih igraca danas, na terenu i van njega.

[pirmin]

Ovo finale je jasno kao dan.
Ja sam svoje rekao jos na samom pocetku pool-a.

Bio bi red da pobjedi fudbal.

(...i da se konacno zavrsi vuvuzelanje ...vuvuzelali onom Plateru na uho ostatak zivota i poslije. )

[jeza u ledja]

Jedan jako zanimljiv clanak:

From Ajax to Barcelona - Holland v Spain World Cup 2010 final will be the clash of football's two greatest ever academies
Rinus Michels, Johan Cruyff and their footballing gift to Oranje and La Roja

Sunday's eagerly-awaited World Cup final between Holland and Spain will, remarkably, be the first ever competitive meeting between these two nations; yet they are inextricably linked by their shared footballing philosophy - a tactical approach attributable to two Dutchmen, Rinus Michels and Johan Cruyff, and their profound influence on two clubs, Ajax and Barcelona.

The two squads from whom a new name will be inscribed on the World Cup this weekend include no fewer than 17 players who graduated from the academies of these two great clubs, which is to say that all 17 were schooled in their formative years in the fluid and highly flexible style known as 'Total Football'.

That was the label given to the system in which any outfield player can seamlessly assume the role of any other in the team - an approach embodied in successive Ajax, Holland, Barcelona and Spain teams, and one which could provide a feast for football purists on Sunday.

Some argue that the genesis of Total Football was the great Hungary team of the early 1950s, who are credited with re-inventing the game after the Second World War. They have a strong case; and it is no coincidence that the international record set by those Magical Magyars - of 32 consecutive matches without defeat - was only beaten, in June 2009, by the current Spain team.

But the version of Total Football developed by Ajax and later Barcelona had its origins in Amsterdam. Englishman Jack Reynolds, manager of Ajax Amsterdam from 1915–1925, 1928–1940, and 1945-1947, first experimented with it. One of his players in his last spell at the club was Michels, and he is the man who famously pioneered and refined it when he himself turned to coaching

Under Michels, Ajax played some of their best ever football, winning the Dutch league four times and cup three times between 1965 and 1971, and also lifting the first of three consecutive European Cups. His great on-field orchestrator was the incomparable Johan Cruyff. The pair also worked together at Barcelona - Michels joining the Catalans in 1971 and Cruyff in 1973 - and with the Dutch national team, who dazzled the world with Total Football at the 1974 World Cup and are still regarded as the best team never to have won the trophy.

In Cruyff's vision of Total Football, which was further refined when he became coach of Ajax (1985-88) and Barcelona (1988-96), and which is evident today in the way both 2010 World Cup finalists play, space is everything. An Ajax team-mate of Cruyff's, Barry Hulshoff, once explained: "We discussed space the whole time. Johan Cruyff always talked about where people should run and where they should stand, and when they should not move."

In 1987 Ajax won the European Cup again under Cruyff; and when he emulated Michels by becoming coach of Barca, he assembled the fabled 'Dream Team'. Under Cruyff's guidance, Barca won four consecutive La Liga titles from 1991 to 1994 and beat Sampdoria in both the 1989 Cup Winners' Cup final and the 1992 European Cup final - the latter with a free kick by Dutch international Ronald Koeman, which reflected the growing Dutch influence at Barca.

FROM BARCA TO SPAIN

Winning 11 trophies, Cruyff became Barcelona's most successful and longest serving manager to date. Perhaps most significantly, in building the Dream Team he recruited Pep Guardiola, whose successful playing career has been followed by an even more successful coaching career, in which the legacy of the Michels-Cruyff brand of Total Football is dazzlingly apparent. The current Spain squad is packed with players under Guardiola's tutelage at club level who came through the Barca academy: Victor Valdes, Gerard Pique, Carles Puyol, Sergio Busquets, Xavi Hernandez, Andres Iniesta and Pedro Rodriguez, with Cesc Fabregas having begun his footballing education at Camp Nou, where he modelled his game on Guardiola’s.

THE AJAX CONTRIBUTION

Meanwhile the Ajax youth programme remains one of the most vibrant and productive in world football. In 1995, when Ajax won the Champions League, the Dutch national team was composed almost entirely of their players, including Edwin van der Sar, Michael Reiziger, Frank de Boer, Danny Blind, Ronald de Boer, Edgar Davids, Clarence Seedorf, Patrick Kluivert and Marc Overmars. Several of those stars also went on to represent Barcelona with distinction.

Heirs to the legacy created by these players and the likes of Cruyff, Marco van Basten, Frank Rijkaard and Dennis Bergkamp can be found throughout the current Oranje squad. Wesley Sneijder, Rafael van der Vaart, Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, Eljero Elia, John Heitinga, Nigel de Jong, Maarten Stekelenburg, Gregory van der Wiel and Ryan Babel all came through the ranks at Ajax.

The 2010 World Cup final will, therefore, be something of an affirmation that the Total Football philosophy born some 40 years ago in Amsterdam has been nurtured over a couple of generations and flourished in the academies of two famous clubs to the benefit of two distinctive national teams. And when of those nations lifts the trophy for the first time on Sunday, attacking football will be the winner.

[Richard Peti]

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[Better Man]

Ko god osvoji bice mi drago, ali ce mi takodje biti zao porazenog. Da ste vidjeli Spanske turiste u Baskoj Vodi kako su slavili prolaz u finale protiv Njemaca.

[zecko_kupuz]

Ovo SP je obilježeno životinjskim carstvom. Čimpanza Pino prognozira pobjedu Holandije.

[jeza u ledja]

Sad procitah: Holandija i Spanija se nikada do sada nisu susrele u zvanicnoj utakmici.

[Obuca9]

Sad procitah: Holandija i Spanija se nikada do sada nisu susrele u zvanicnoj utakmici.

Nije ti to tačno

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/stati ... index.html

Evo po FIFA-inoj stranici imaju 8 odigranih utakmica, 4 pobjede Holandije, 3 Španije i jedan remi.

Od tih 8 utakmica, 6 su bile prijateljske, a dvije u okviru kvalifikacija.
Prijateljske: http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/stati ... index.html
Kvalifikacije: http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/stati ... index.html

[cyprus]

Heh dobro, nikad se onda nisu sastajale na prvenstvima

[Facasplaca]

Ma ovo furija uzima. . .sam Bog zna kako su holandeZi dogurali do finala

[zlaataan]

Ma ovo furija uzima. . .sam Bog zna kako su holandeZi dogurali do finala

A kako su to Španci? 1-0, 1-0, 1-0
I gol protiv Portugala iz offsidea, da ne nabrajam dalje...

[nAN3]

Ma ovo furija uzima. . .sam Bog zna kako su holandeZi dogurali do finala

gledamo li isto prvenstvo ?

[Facasplaca]

ne osporavam da je se spancima liZao pakas tokom kompletnog prvenstva , u nekim trenucima je cak prelazilo u perverziju- no licno sam misljenja da su igrom i nacinom na koji su pobjedjivali ( moglo je tu biti i vise golova, al bice u finalu ) vise zasluzili SP od holandjana, koji opet kontinuirano od dolaska sijedog glume nesto sto nisu.

igra neuvjerljiva, bez neke posebne kombinatorike, u ekipi se samo zna za Sneijdera i Robbena, u nekim trenucima kao protiv Brazila vise me podsjecali na ekipu Italije, jedino sto valja u timu je onaj Kuyt, nastavi niz. . .

i to bi kao trebao biti totalni nogomet i reinkarnacija Crojfove ekipe? my ass

[jeza u ledja]

Sad procitah: Holandija i Spanija se nikada do sada nisu susrele u zvanicnoj utakmici.

Nije ti to tačno

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/stati ... index.html

Evo po FIFA-inoj stranici imaju 8 odigranih utakmica, 4 pobjede Holandije, 3 Španije i jedan remi.

Od tih 8 utakmica, 6 su bile prijateljske, a dvije u okviru kvalifikacija.
Prijateljske: http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/stati ... index.html
Kvalifikacije: http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/stati ... index.html

To reko ciko na nekoj vijesti nisam ja.

[jeza u ledja]

ne osporavam da je se spancima liZao pakas tokom kompletnog prvenstva , u nekim trenucima je cak prelazilo u perverziju- no licno sam misljenja da su igrom i nacinom na koji su pobjedjivali ( moglo je tu biti i vise golova, al bice u finalu ) vise zasluzili SP od holandjana, koji opet kontinuirano od dolaska sijedog glume nesto sto nisu.

igra neuvjerljiva, bez neke posebne kombinatorike, u ekipi se samo zna za Sneijdera i Robbena, u nekim trenucima kao protiv Brazila vise me podsjecali na ekipu Italije, jedino sto valja u timu je onaj Kuyt, nastavi niz. . .

i to bi kao trebao biti totalni nogomet i reinkarnacija Crojfove ekipe? my ass

Tacno tako i ja razmisljam. Spanci su vise zasluzili ovu titulu.

Ja inace gotivim Holandiju i uvijek sam navijao za njih, kao vjecite favorite iz sjene, ali ova sad generacija se ne moze porediti cak ni sa onom De Boer, Kluivert, Cocu, Seedorf, Davids, Bergkamp, Overmars, da ne govorimo sa onom Gullit, van Basten, Rijkaard, ili pogotovo onom Cruyff, Neeskens.

Jel ko citao o onim milionskim protestima danas (ili juce?) u Barceloni? Kao 'Katalonija nije Spanija' i tako to....Hmm, bas zanimljivo, nasli protestovat dan pred najvecu utakmicu u povijesti Spanije.

Inace, ako smijem primjetiti, nije nesto veliko zanimanje za ovu temu.

[LSD]

to je ta dobitna formacija za španiju

http://www.footballuser.com/4693/Spain

[Stari]

I ja sam primjetio da je ova tema relativno malog obima stranica - usudio bih se konstatovati - nemproporcionalno njenoh bitnosti - jer zaboga radi se o finalu Mundijala. Dakle , uprkos dubokom ubijedjenju i znajuci da to nije previse popularno , odlucujem se dati svoj skromni doprinos podizanju rejtinga ove teme.

Po meni Holandezi imaju svoju sansu napraviti nesto protiv opakih Iberijaca...samo ako im prvi uspiju strpati gol. Kako? ...naravno tesko...ali napokon ...Svajcarci su u tome uspjeli - jeste druga je to utakmica bila i durge okolnosti ...ali ipak...nije nemoguca misija.

Spanci ...ukoliko upostave svoju igru na sredini ... trenutno nemaju premca ...s gorcinom ispisujem ove retke jer nisam njihov obozavalac ali ...cinjenicno stanje jeste takvo. Ako se to desi dakle - Nizozemcima se crno pise ... time ujedno i mojim izgledima da popravim vlastiti plasman na tabeli prognozerskog pool-a.

Dakle ...hajmo Holandezi ...sjetite se svih promasenih zihera u Minhenu 1974 i Buenos Airesu 1978 ...jednom ta vrazja lopta mora odskociti na vasu stranu. Zagrizite u prvih 10 minuta ...i strpajte im ga ...sprijeda , otraga, sa strane apsolutno nevazo ...samo ga strpajte. Kasnije cemo zapjevati onu nasu staru ....All right now baby ...its all right now.

[cyprus]

Šansa Holandije je činjenica da Špancima treba mnogo šansi da bi zabili gol. Kod Holanđana je suprotno, ne stvaraju puno prilika, ali su dosta efikasni...

[plemba]

samo da kazem prije tekme: NAPRIJED ESPANA!

[fakat]

ne osporavam da je se spancima liZao pakas tokom kompletnog prvenstva , u nekim trenucima je cak prelazilo u perverziju- no licno sam misljenja da su igrom i nacinom na koji su pobjedjivali ( moglo je tu biti i vise golova, al bice u finalu ) vise zasluzili SP od holandjana, koji opet kontinuirano od dolaska sijedog glume nesto sto nisu.

igra neuvjerljiva, bez neke posebne kombinatorike, u ekipi se samo zna za Sneijdera i Robbena, u nekim trenucima kao protiv Brazila vise me podsjecali na ekipu Italije, jedino sto valja u timu je onaj Kuyt, nastavi niz. . .

i to bi kao trebao biti totalni nogomet i reinkarnacija Crojfove ekipe? my ass

Tacno tako i ja razmisljam. Spanci su vise zasluzili ovu titulu.

Ja inace gotivim Holandiju i uvijek sam navijao za njih, kao vjecite favorite iz sjene, ali ova sad generacija se ne moze porediti cak ni sa onom De Boer, Kluivert, Cocu, Seedorf, Davids, Bergkamp, Overmars, da ne govorimo sa onom Gullit, van Basten, Rijkaard, ili pogotovo onom Cruyff, Neeskens.

Jel ko citao o onim milionskim protestima danas (ili juce?) u Barceloni? Kao 'Katalonija nije Spanija' i tako to....Hmm, bas zanimljivo, nasli protestovat dan pred najvecu utakmicu u povijesti Spanije.

Inace, ako smijem primjetiti, nije nesto veliko zanimanje za ovu temu.

Jeste slabo zanimanje, na nekim drugim utakmicama do sada bi bilo ispisano desetak stranica. Mogu jedino reci za sebe da vise i nemam neke navijacke strasti, skoro svejedno...nesto gotivim honaldeze malo vise.