Herbalife?

[encian]

moj ukucanin probao. pljunuo bruku para. djaba.

[car-x]

moj ukucanin probao. pljunuo bruku para. djaba.

garant je smrso od muke.. makar kilu..

[Bamboo]

Dragi forumasi... Javljam se prvi put, inace nemam bas obicaj komentarisati, ali nisam mogla odoljeti.
Dakle, moj suprug koristi HL proizvode vec vise od godinu dana. Dok nije mene sreo, zaklinjao se u njih, sad sam ga ja malo pokolebala u stavovima (sorry observer, lose uticem na tvoje kupce ) rezultati? Da, ima ih, nedvojbeno! Moj suprug je pocetkom koristenja HL preparata smrsao 15kg za manje od pola godine, i nastavio koristiti sve da bi zadrzao tezinu (postoji recept za mrsanje, recept za debljanje i recept za odrzavanje). Ali da ne bude zabune - SAM Herbalife nece donijeti rezultat. Pijenjem shake-a 2x dnevno imate SAMO JEDAN 'normalan' obrok (ma kakoobilan on bio) i to je za ljude koji vole jesti (a svi debeli vole) jak tesko u pocetku. Morate smanjitigrickalice i kolace, gazirane sokove,...povecati fizicku aktivnost. HL je dobar utoliko sta vam u organizam unese (s)tvari koje vam nedostaju kad smanjite jelo, dakle vitamine i minerala, i pomogne vasem tijelu da se navikne na novi rezim ishrane. Moj muz cim se malo opusti (pocne jesti vise kolaca, manje se krece), udeblja se ponovonekoliko kilograma.
Ja licno mislim da je mnogo bolje unijeti vitamine i minerale vocem i povrcem, a kontrolisati samog sebe u pogledu kolicina i vrste hrane koje unosis u organizam, nego mutiti shake-ove.
Ne zaboravimo psiholoski efekat -kad date nekoliko stotina KM za HL, lakse cete reci 'ne' kolacima kasnije
Ono sto najvise MRZIM kod HL-price je sto je 90% cijele price fokusirano na prodaju i zaradu, i sto HL radi na principu klasicnog MLM, pa zamislite koliki je to lanas ljudi (distributera) i kad svaki od njih zaradi ponesto, koliko ZAISTA kosta preparat?! Ako je dobar kao sto vjerujem da jeste- dajte ga u apoteke da ga kupe svi kojima treba. A novackoji sadzaradjuju distributeri neka ide u s snizenje cijene...

GRIJEH JE ZARADJIVATI NA ZDRAVLJU LJUDI

[debela]

sad ce observer, dok dobije upute iz staba, svima vama sve objasniti

[shin]

Dragi forumasi... Javljam se prvi put, inace nemam bas obicaj komentarisati, ali nisam mogla odoljeti.
Dakle, moj suprug koristi HL proizvode vec vise od godinu dana. Dok nije mene sreo, zaklinjao se u njih, sad sam ga ja malo pokolebala u stavovima (sorry observer, lose uticem na tvoje kupce ) rezultati? Da, ima ih, nedvojbeno! Moj suprug je pocetkom koristenja HL preparata smrsao 15kg za manje od pola godine, i nastavio koristiti sve da bi zadrzao tezinu (postoji recept za mrsanje, recept za debljanje i recept za odrzavanje). Ali da ne bude zabune - SAM Herbalife nece donijeti rezultat. Pijenjem shake-a 2x dnevno imate SAMO JEDAN 'normalan' obrok (ma kakoobilan on bio) i to je za ljude koji vole jesti (a svi debeli vole) jak tesko u pocetku. Morate smanjitigrickalice i kolace, gazirane sokove,...povecati fizicku aktivnost. HL je dobar utoliko sta vam u organizam unese (s)tvari koje vam nedostaju kad smanjite jelo, dakle vitamine i minerala, i pomogne vasem tijelu da se navikne na novi rezim ishrane. Moj muz cim se malo opusti (pocne jesti vise kolaca, manje se krece), udeblja se ponovonekoliko kilograma.
Ja licno mislim da je mnogo bolje unijeti vitamine i minerale vocem i povrcem, a kontrolisati samog sebe u pogledu kolicina i vrste hrane koje unosis u organizam, nego mutiti shake-ove.
Ne zaboravimo psiholoski efekat -kad date nekoliko stotina KM za HL, lakse cete reci 'ne' kolacima kasnije
Ono sto najvise MRZIM kod HL-price je sto je 90% cijele price fokusirano na prodaju i zaradu, i sto HL radi na principu klasicnog MLM, pa zamislite koliki je to lanas ljudi (distributera) i kad svaki od njih zaradi ponesto, koliko ZAISTA kosta preparat?! Ako je dobar kao sto vjerujem da jeste- dajte ga u apoteke da ga kupe svi kojima treba. A novackoji sadzaradjuju distributeri neka ide u s snizenje cijene...

GRIJEH JE ZARADJIVATI NA ZDRAVLJU LJUDI

Ovo je poslednji ekser u Herbalife tabut.

[shin]

sad ce observer, dok dobije upute iz staba, svima vama sve objasniti

Ti pivama režeš kile?

[debela]

sad ce observer, dok dobije upute iz staba, svima vama sve objasniti

Ti pivama režeš kile?

tako nekako

[observer]

sad ce observer, dok dobije upute iz staba, svima vama sve objasniti

Ti pivama režeš kile?

tako nekako

HA HA HA

ma slatki ste,
mislim dobro vam ide, moram priznati,
super ste,
pratim komentare...

[Bamboo]

Dragi forumasi... Javljam se prvi put, inace nemam bas obicaj komentarisati, ali nisam mogla odoljeti.
Dakle, moj suprug koristi HL proizvode vec vise od godinu dana. Dok nije mene sreo, zaklinjao se u njih, sad sam ga ja malo pokolebala u stavovima (sorry observer, lose uticem na tvoje kupce ) rezultati? Da, ima ih, nedvojbeno! Moj suprug je pocetkom koristenja HL preparata smrsao 15kg za manje od pola godine, i nastavio koristiti sve da bi zadrzao tezinu (postoji recept za mrsanje, recept za debljanje i recept za odrzavanje). Ali da ne bude zabune - SAM Herbalife nece donijeti rezultat. Pijenjem shake-a 2x dnevno imate SAMO JEDAN 'normalan' obrok (ma kakoobilan on bio) i to je za ljude koji vole jesti (a svi debeli vole) jak tesko u pocetku. Morate smanjitigrickalice i kolace, gazirane sokove,...povecati fizicku aktivnost. HL je dobar utoliko sta vam u organizam unese (s)tvari koje vam nedostaju kad smanjite jelo, dakle vitamine i minerala, i pomogne vasem tijelu da se navikne na novi rezim ishrane. Moj muz cim se malo opusti (pocne jesti vise kolaca, manje se krece), udeblja se ponovonekoliko kilograma.
Ja licno mislim da je mnogo bolje unijeti vitamine i minerale vocem i povrcem, a kontrolisati samog sebe u pogledu kolicina i vrste hrane koje unosis u organizam, nego mutiti shake-ove.
Ne zaboravimo psiholoski efekat -kad date nekoliko stotina KM za HL, lakse cete reci 'ne' kolacima kasnije
Ono sto najvise MRZIM kod HL-price je sto je 90% cijele price fokusirano na prodaju i zaradu, i sto HL radi na principu klasicnog MLM, pa zamislite koliki je to lanas ljudi (distributera) i kad svaki od njih zaradi ponesto, koliko ZAISTA kosta preparat?! Ako je dobar kao sto vjerujem da jeste- dajte ga u apoteke da ga kupe svi kojima treba. A novackoji sadzaradjuju distributeri neka ide u s snizenje cijene...

GRIJEH JE ZARADJIVATI NA ZDRAVLJU LJUDI

Ovo je poslednji ekser u Herbalife tabut.[/quote



nije, ne raduj se ne daju se oni tako lako. kad se trziste zasiti jednim proizvodom (klopom), predju na nesto drugo. imaju oni cijelu kozmeticku liniju! znaci, ocekujmo sad da nam se to pocne nuditi u bosni. tesko je prstati,kad ti se pare oslade

[observer]

sad ce observer, dok dobije upute iz staba, svima vama sve objasniti

Ej "debela", imam jedan sjajan recept za smrsati
da li te zanima?

[Bamboo]

sad ce observer, dok dobije upute iz staba, svima vama sve objasniti

Ej "debela", imam jedan sjajan recept za smrsati
da li te zanima?

'smrsati je lako, pitajte me kako'

[observer]

sad ce observer, dok dobije upute iz staba, svima vama sve objasniti

Ej "debela", imam jedan sjajan recept za smrsati
da li te zanima?

'smrsati je lako, pitajte me kako'

A KAKO?

[Bamboo]

Ej "debela", imam jedan sjajan recept za smrsati
da li te zanima?

'smrsati je lako, pitajte me kako'

A KAKO?

pa uz herbalife, naravno 'debela' ce mrsati a ti ces slagati pare na racunu... vuk sit i ovce na broju

[debela]

sad ce observer, dok dobije upute iz staba, svima vama sve objasniti

Ej "debela", imam jedan sjajan recept za smrsati
da li te zanima?

ne hvala. debela zna kako mrsati i kako se debljati. sve po potrebi

[DaysleepeR]

Ovo je malo duže ali isplati se procitati, a observer je ionako donji jer nije odgovorio ni na jedan kontraargument.

A. Facts Relating To the Business of Herbalife

1. The Herbalife Promises: Income Limited Only By Individual Effort.
13. Herbalife sells the idea of success, the ability to get rich quick, and to enjoy a lavish lifestyle and unlimited income. Herbalife recruits Distributors through a series of video tapes, offering the promise of new homes, dream vacations and quick cash designed to lure more and more people into filling out the bottom of the Herbalife pyramid, necessary to support the avarice of the those at the top.
14. The contrivance for Herbalife's pyramidal get rich quick scheme is the sales and distribution of overpriced herbal weight loss, nutritional and personal care products. The products cannot be purchased through retail outlets. Rather, they are sold exclusively through a network of persons employed as independent "Distributors."
15. Plaintiff Dan Fallow has recently gained information which makes him believe that Herbalife is able to offer its Distributors the promise of large returns because the mark-up on its products is over seven times the cost of manufacturing. For example, its "Protein Power" weight loss drink is believed to cost approximately $2.50 a can to manufacture. Herbalife sells it for $20.00 a can -- all of which is profit. Herbalife recoups its costs by tacking on other charges, marking up UPS or other freight charges over klix cost, and adding a superfluous 6% packaging and handling charge on every order. Upon information and belief, Herbalife funds its recently announced "infinite bonus" payments to the highest level of Distributors by the packaging and handling charge. Prior to implementing this bonus system, Herbalife had never charged packaging and handling.
16. In its promotional materials, Herbalife offers the example of Founder and President, Mark Hughes as someone who became rich selling Herbalife, and drives a Rolls Royce and lives in a $20 million dollar Beverly Hills mansion. However, upon information and belief, a large portion of Hughes' current income is not earned through sales of Herbalife products through Distributorship, but is earned from sales made to Herbalife by supplier companies in which Hughes has an equity interest. According to recent 10-Q report filed with the SEC in May of 1995, Hughes earned almost $5,000,000 in 1994 from these companies, one of which has a requirements contract, obligating Herbalife to purchase all of its products from it.
17. An applicant for a Herbalife Distributorship becomes a Distributor when the person purchases a "Distributor Kit" and "when [his] completed application has been accepted and processed by Herbalife World Headquarters." Once the application has been accepted, the "contract with Herbalife becomes effective immediately, giving [the Distributor] all the rights and responsibilities of a Distributor."
18. Herbalife induces persons to become Distributors by promising opportunity and income limited only by the Distributor's individual effort. Herbalife promises its Distributors that its "sales and marketing plan has been designed" to "maximize his success" if "he applies dedication, hard work and perseverance." Herbalife promises that "the rewards you receive as a Distributor operating your own business will be directly proportionate to the time and effort you put into your business." By sponsoring others, the Distributor had "the opportunity to grow as fast as [he] want[s] to" and "may sponsor people anywhere" and "earn a profit on their sales activities."
19. Herbalife Distributors are also promised the ability to operate his or her Distributorship as their "own business". Herbalife promises "a freedom of choice in [his] earning potential . . . It is our belief that each person should have the inherent right to choose the manner in which they live, the work they perform and the amount of money they want to earn."
20. Pursuant to this philosophy that each Distributor operates his or her own business, each Herbalife Distributor is required to bear all the expenses of running the operation, including advertising, travel, entertainment, office or home space, hotel meeting room rentals, etc. Herbalife bears no part of these expenses, regardless of the profit to Herbalife.
21. Additionally, Herbalife Distributors make sales of "Distributor Kits" and literature for Herbalife for which they receive no compensation. As royalties are paid only on certain items, sales of non-royalty items are profit to the company, but earn no profit to the Distributor.
22. Distributors, Herbalife proclaims, earn money by making retail sales to "all those persons with whom they come into contact." Additionally, Distributors "who sponsor others into their specific Distributor network can earn royalty override bonuses based on the individual sales of the persons that they have sponsored."
23. In addition to income from personal retail sales, and royalties from sales of others sponsored by the Distributor, Distributors also receive "bonus" payments tied to a complex system of tiered production levels.
2. The Reality: Herbalife Arbitrarily and In Violation Of Its Own Rules Takes Away Earned Income.
24. Despite these representations, after a Distributor has attained some success, quit other employment and has received some large royalty and bonus checks, Herbalife has a pattern and practice of arbitrarily and capriciously taking away income from its Distributors and withholding it, or redistributing that income to other persons more favored within the organization.
25. Herbalife also has a pattern and practice of arbitrarily reducing checks without explanation and then refusing to account for the deficiencies. Herbalife's accounting is so confusing and unexplained that a Distributor never has all the information needed to determine whether he or she has been paid as promised. This purposeful lack of access to information give Herbalife the ability to arbitrarily withhold income.
3. Herbalife's Stated Organizational Structure.
26. Herbalife also promises that "[e]ach and every Distributor begins in the same position with an equal opportunity for success and advancement.
4. Herbalife's klix Organizational Structure.
27. Despite this outward protestation of a meritocracy, the truth is that not all Herbalife Distributors are created equal. In reality, Herbalife is a dictatorship run by its founder and a small group of favored sycophants. As demonstrated by what happened to these Plaintiffs, and as they have observed happen to others, Plaintiffs now know that the chosen few are allowed to violate the stated rules and are given favored treatment.
5. The Herbalife Rules.
a. Rules Regarding Married Couples.
28. Married couples who wish to be Distributors must work under the same Sponsor, and cannot sponsor each other. If Distributors marry each other, one must relinquish his or her distributorship, unless either Spouse has achieved "Supervisor" status, in which case, each may maintain their separate distributorship in the original line of Sponsorship.
29. Any Herbalife Distributor may resign at any time by submitting his or her notarized resignation letter to Herbalife headquarters. At relevant times herein, Distributors were told that he or she must wait six months before re-applying for another Herbalife Distributorship under any Sponsor other than the original Sponsor. Herbalife later increased the six month requirement to twelve months.
b. The Reality: The Rules Are Bent or Broken To Favor Certain Sponsors.
30. Despite these written rules, and even if Distributors follow these rules, as demonstrated by what happened to these Plaintiffs, the rules are broken in order to benefit certain favorite sponsors at the expense of Distributors who suffer the misfortune of being targeted by the favorite few.
c. The Rules Barring Unfair Sales Practices.
31. Rule 8 of the Rules of Conduct for Herbalife Distributors provides that: No Distributor shall attempt to induce any other Herbalife Distributor, whom he does not personally sponsor, to sell Herbalife products. The purpose of the rule is to ensure that the rights of other Sponsors are honored at all times.
d. The Reality: These Rules Are Ignored When It Benefits The Favored Few.
32. Despite these written rules, demonstrated by what happened to violating Distributors under one of these Plaintiffs, if certain Distributors break these rules, the violations are ignored if enforcing the rules would result in less income for favorite sponsors -- even though the failure to enforce the rules resulted in a huge income loss to Plaintiff.
e. Herbalife Promises Due Process Prior To Cutting A Distributor's Income.
33. Rule 13 of the Rules of Conduct for Herbalife Distributors provides that: Every Distributor has the duty and responsibility to investigate and properly report any and all violations of the Distributor Rules of Conduct.
34. The Herbalife Enforcement Procedures provide a "step-by step summary of the methods by which Herbalife Distributors may deal with violations of the Rules of Conduct.

Step 1. Upon learning of a violation, a Distributor should inform the violator of the appropriate section in the Rules of Conduct and discuss the matter with him. Point out the purpose behind the particular rule. Be sure that the alleged violator knows how his conduct broke the rule and what the proper conduct should have been. Most violations are due to a lack of understanding; a discussion usually settles the matter.

If the violator understands the rule and agrees to comply, then is not necessary to inform the Company of the violation. However, a Distributor should always ensure that his Supervisor is aware of the problem.

Step 2. If the alleged violator shows by word or conduct that he is unwilling or refuses to cooperate, then the Distributor should send a letter to the company stating the nature of the complaint; names, addresses, and telephone numbers of all persons involved; dates; times; places; etc. The letter must be signed by the Distributor(s) reporting the violation. Anonymous complaints cannot be made the basis for disciplinary action.

After the letter has been mailed, the Distributor should maintain contact with the violator and report any changes in the situation. The utmost care must be taken to ensure that the complaint is accurate and truthful -- knowingly making a false complaint is a violation of the Rules of Conduct. The Company considers all complaint information to be strictly confidential.

Step 3. When the complaint is received by the Company, it will be handled accordingly to set Company procedures. All parties will be afforded the opportunity to present evidence and argument in writing to the Company. No decision will be rendered until all parties have been notified and an opportunity to appeal the fairness of the decisions has been made available. Although the Company bears the primary responsibility for enforcement of the Rules of Conduct, Supervisors and occasionally Sponsor may be called upon to implement and enforce these decisions.
f. The Reality: Herbalife Denies Due Process When It Suits It.
Despite this outwardly fair facade, as demonstrated by what happened to these Plaintiffs, Herbalife does not offer due process when it targets disfavored Distributors to advantage favored Distributors. In fact, on at least one occasion, Herbalife conducted a secret, damaging and rumor filled investigation, then withheld income and forced a Distributor out of business, without so much as a chance to explain, much less the process described above.
6. The Real Rules: Whatever Herbalife Wants At The Moment.
35. Despite these Rules, as demonstrated by what happened to these Plaintiffs and others, Herbalife, has a pattern of either ignoring them, or making up new ones, in order to withhold income, and/or redistribute income to other persons more favored within the organization. As demonstrated by testimony given by Founder Mark Hughes in a recent deposition taken on November 29, 1995, in Los Angeles, California, Herbalife also has unwritten rules it enforces at will without notice.
36. Herbalife is no doubt aware that giving large rewards and fast dollars generates loyalty. Apparently, however, even that promise is not enough to generate the kind of control over its Distributors Herbalife insists upon. Plaintiffs have information that makes them believe that, on many occasions, Herbalife has exercised its power to turn off a Distributors' income stream, and/or significantly reduce it, to force successful Distributors to bend to its will, whether or not Herbalife's demand is within Herbalife's stated rules or policies. Herbalife uses this coercion tactic to gain a level of control over its Distributors not afforded by its contractual rights.
37. In one example of this coercive control, a Southern California Distributor's income was terminated when she began to generate income from selling direct mail literature to her down line Distributors. There is no Herbalife Rule preventing the sale of literature which does not use the Herbalife name or trademarks.
38. Favoritism also results in broken rules. Herbalife represents that it will now allow Distributors to sell into foreign countries which are not yet "open" by Herbalife. The truth is that, on at least one occasion, it has allowed a favored Distributorship, John and Susan Peterson, to sell and establish Distributorship in an unopened country, Mexico, prior to allowing competition by any other Distributors. This favoritism allowed the Petersons to gain an immense advantage and a much greater income than the normal Distributor who was bound by the no-selling limitation.
39. While the favored prosper, the disfavored suffer. In one instance, one Texas million dollar distributor was terminated when he began to sell competing products. Another Southern California distributor was terminated when her husband began to sell competing products. Yet, as described herein, Herbalife has also chosen to turn a blind eye to identical behavior when it benefited the favored. Plaintiffs are currently investigating other such examples of disparate treatment among Distributors.

[observer]

Ovo je malo duže ali isplati se procitati, a observer je ionako donji jer nije odgovorio ni na jedan kontraargument.

Totalno sam raspolozen 24 sata razgovarati na temu Herbalifea, ali sorry, nemam dovoljno vremena za pisanje. Zato sam i predlozio otvorenu debatu uzivo sa ozbiljnima.

Dodjite da ozbiljno razgovaramo svi koji imate
"Lose rezultate", predrasude o onome sto nudi Herbalife i sl.

forum pratim koliko stignem.

Pozdrav

A. Facts Relating To the Business of Herbalife

1. The Herbalife Promises: Income Limited Only By Individual Effort.
13. Herbalife sells the idea of success, the ability to get rich quick, and to enjoy a lavish lifestyle and unlimited income. Herbalife recruits Distributors through a series of video tapes, offering the promise of new homes, dream vacations and quick cash designed to lure more and more people into filling out the bottom of the Herbalife pyramid, necessary to support the avarice of the those at the top.
14. The contrivance for Herbalife's pyramidal get rich quick scheme is the sales and distribution of overpriced herbal weight loss, nutritional and personal care products. The products cannot be purchased through retail outlets. Rather, they are sold exclusively through a network of persons employed as independent "Distributors."
15. Plaintiff Dan Fallow has recently gained information which makes him believe that Herbalife is able to offer its Distributors the promise of large returns because the mark-up on its products is over seven times the cost of manufacturing. For example, its "Protein Power" weight loss drink is believed to cost approximately $2.50 a can to manufacture. Herbalife sells it for $20.00 a can -- all of which is profit. Herbalife recoups its costs by tacking on other charges, marking up UPS or other freight charges over klix cost, and adding a superfluous 6% packaging and handling charge on every order. Upon information and belief, Herbalife funds its recently announced "infinite bonus" payments to the highest level of Distributors by the packaging and handling charge. Prior to implementing this bonus system, Herbalife had never charged packaging and handling.
16. In its promotional materials, Herbalife offers the example of Founder and President, Mark Hughes as someone who became rich selling Herbalife, and drives a Rolls Royce and lives in a $20 million dollar Beverly Hills mansion. However, upon information and belief, a large portion of Hughes' current income is not earned through sales of Herbalife products through Distributorship, but is earned from sales made to Herbalife by supplier companies in which Hughes has an equity interest. According to recent 10-Q report filed with the SEC in May of 1995, Hughes earned almost $5,000,000 in 1994 from these companies, one of which has a requirements contract, obligating Herbalife to purchase all of its products from it.
17. An applicant for a Herbalife Distributorship becomes a Distributor when the person purchases a "Distributor Kit" and "when [his] completed application has been accepted and processed by Herbalife World Headquarters." Once the application has been accepted, the "contract with Herbalife becomes effective immediately, giving [the Distributor] all the rights and responsibilities of a Distributor."
18. Herbalife induces persons to become Distributors by promising opportunity and income limited only by the Distributor's individual effort. Herbalife promises its Distributors that its "sales and marketing plan has been designed" to "maximize his success" if "he applies dedication, hard work and perseverance." Herbalife promises that "the rewards you receive as a Distributor operating your own business will be directly proportionate to the time and effort you put into your business." By sponsoring others, the Distributor had "the opportunity to grow as fast as [he] want[s] to" and "may sponsor people anywhere" and "earn a profit on their sales activities."
19. Herbalife Distributors are also promised the ability to operate his or her Distributorship as their "own business". Herbalife promises "a freedom of choice in [his] earning potential . . . It is our belief that each person should have the inherent right to choose the manner in which they live, the work they perform and the amount of money they want to earn."
20. Pursuant to this philosophy that each Distributor operates his or her own business, each Herbalife Distributor is required to bear all the expenses of running the operation, including advertising, travel, entertainment, office or home space, hotel meeting room rentals, etc. Herbalife bears no part of these expenses, regardless of the profit to Herbalife.
21. Additionally, Herbalife Distributors make sales of "Distributor Kits" and literature for Herbalife for which they receive no compensation. As royalties are paid only on certain items, sales of non-royalty items are profit to the company, but earn no profit to the Distributor.
22. Distributors, Herbalife proclaims, earn money by making retail sales to "all those persons with whom they come into contact." Additionally, Distributors "who sponsor others into their specific Distributor network can earn royalty override bonuses based on the individual sales of the persons that they have sponsored."
23. In addition to income from personal retail sales, and royalties from sales of others sponsored by the Distributor, Distributors also receive "bonus" payments tied to a complex system of tiered production levels.
2. The Reality: Herbalife Arbitrarily and In Violation Of Its Own Rules Takes Away Earned Income.
24. Despite these representations, after a Distributor has attained some success, quit other employment and has received some large royalty and bonus checks, Herbalife has a pattern and practice of arbitrarily and capriciously taking away income from its Distributors and withholding it, or redistributing that income to other persons more favored within the organization.
25. Herbalife also has a pattern and practice of arbitrarily reducing checks without explanation and then refusing to account for the deficiencies. Herbalife's accounting is so confusing and unexplained that a Distributor never has all the information needed to determine whether he or she has been paid as promised. This purposeful lack of access to information give Herbalife the ability to arbitrarily withhold income.
3. Herbalife's Stated Organizational Structure.
26. Herbalife also promises that "[e]ach and every Distributor begins in the same position with an equal opportunity for success and advancement.
4. Herbalife's klix Organizational Structure.
27. Despite this outward protestation of a meritocracy, the truth is that not all Herbalife Distributors are created equal. In reality, Herbalife is a dictatorship run by its founder and a small group of favored sycophants. As demonstrated by what happened to these Plaintiffs, and as they have observed happen to others, Plaintiffs now know that the chosen few are allowed to violate the stated rules and are given favored treatment.
5. The Herbalife Rules.
a. Rules Regarding Married Couples.
28. Married couples who wish to be Distributors must work under the same Sponsor, and cannot sponsor each other. If Distributors marry each other, one must relinquish his or her distributorship, unless either Spouse has achieved "Supervisor" status, in which case, each may maintain their separate distributorship in the original line of Sponsorship.
29. Any Herbalife Distributor may resign at any time by submitting his or her notarized resignation letter to Herbalife headquarters. At relevant times herein, Distributors were told that he or she must wait six months before re-applying for another Herbalife Distributorship under any Sponsor other than the original Sponsor. Herbalife later increased the six month requirement to twelve months.
b. The Reality: The Rules Are Bent or Broken To Favor Certain Sponsors.
30. Despite these written rules, and even if Distributors follow these rules, as demonstrated by what happened to these Plaintiffs, the rules are broken in order to benefit certain favorite sponsors at the expense of Distributors who suffer the misfortune of being targeted by the favorite few.
c. The Rules Barring Unfair Sales Practices.
31. Rule 8 of the Rules of Conduct for Herbalife Distributors provides that: No Distributor shall attempt to induce any other Herbalife Distributor, whom he does not personally sponsor, to sell Herbalife products. The purpose of the rule is to ensure that the rights of other Sponsors are honored at all times.
d. The Reality: These Rules Are Ignored When It Benefits The Favored Few.
32. Despite these written rules, demonstrated by what happened to violating Distributors under one of these Plaintiffs, if certain Distributors break these rules, the violations are ignored if enforcing the rules would result in less income for favorite sponsors -- even though the failure to enforce the rules resulted in a huge income loss to Plaintiff.
e. Herbalife Promises Due Process Prior To Cutting A Distributor's Income.
33. Rule 13 of the Rules of Conduct for Herbalife Distributors provides that: Every Distributor has the duty and responsibility to investigate and properly report any and all violations of the Distributor Rules of Conduct.
34. The Herbalife Enforcement Procedures provide a "step-by step summary of the methods by which Herbalife Distributors may deal with violations of the Rules of Conduct.

Step 1. Upon learning of a violation, a Distributor should inform the violator of the appropriate section in the Rules of Conduct and discuss the matter with him. Point out the purpose behind the particular rule. Be sure that the alleged violator knows how his conduct broke the rule and what the proper conduct should have been. Most violations are due to a lack of understanding; a discussion usually settles the matter.

If the violator understands the rule and agrees to comply, then is not necessary to inform the Company of the violation. However, a Distributor should always ensure that his Supervisor is aware of the problem.

Step 2. If the alleged violator shows by word or conduct that he is unwilling or refuses to cooperate, then the Distributor should send a letter to the company stating the nature of the complaint; names, addresses, and telephone numbers of all persons involved; dates; times; places; etc. The letter must be signed by the Distributor(s) reporting the violation. Anonymous complaints cannot be made the basis for disciplinary action.

After the letter has been mailed, the Distributor should maintain contact with the violator and report any changes in the situation. The utmost care must be taken to ensure that the complaint is accurate and truthful -- knowingly making a false complaint is a violation of the Rules of Conduct. The Company considers all complaint information to be strictly confidential.

Step 3. When the complaint is received by the Company, it will be handled accordingly to set Company procedures. All parties will be afforded the opportunity to present evidence and argument in writing to the Company. No decision will be rendered until all parties have been notified and an opportunity to appeal the fairness of the decisions has been made available. Although the Company bears the primary responsibility for enforcement of the Rules of Conduct, Supervisors and occasionally Sponsor may be called upon to implement and enforce these decisions.
f. The Reality: Herbalife Denies Due Process When It Suits It.
Despite this outwardly fair facade, as demonstrated by what happened to these Plaintiffs, Herbalife does not offer due process when it targets disfavored Distributors to advantage favored Distributors. In fact, on at least one occasion, Herbalife conducted a secret, damaging and rumor filled investigation, then withheld income and forced a Distributor out of business, without so much as a chance to explain, much less the process described above.
6. The Real Rules: Whatever Herbalife Wants At The Moment.
35. Despite these Rules, as demonstrated by what happened to these Plaintiffs and others, Herbalife, has a pattern of either ignoring them, or making up new ones, in order to withhold income, and/or redistribute income to other persons more favored within the organization. As demonstrated by testimony given by Founder Mark Hughes in a recent deposition taken on November 29, 1995, in Los Angeles, California, Herbalife also has unwritten rules it enforces at will without notice.
36. Herbalife is no doubt aware that giving large rewards and fast dollars generates loyalty. Apparently, however, even that promise is not enough to generate the kind of control over its Distributors Herbalife insists upon. Plaintiffs have information that makes them believe that, on many occasions, Herbalife has exercised its power to turn off a Distributors' income stream, and/or significantly reduce it, to force successful Distributors to bend to its will, whether or not Herbalife's demand is within Herbalife's stated rules or policies. Herbalife uses this coercion tactic to gain a level of control over its Distributors not afforded by its contractual rights.
37. In one example of this coercive control, a Southern California Distributor's income was terminated when she began to generate income from selling direct mail literature to her down line Distributors. There is no Herbalife Rule preventing the sale of literature which does not use the Herbalife name or trademarks.
38. Favoritism also results in broken rules. Herbalife represents that it will now allow Distributors to sell into foreign countries which are not yet "open" by Herbalife. The truth is that, on at least one occasion, it has allowed a favored Distributorship, John and Susan Peterson, to sell and establish Distributorship in an unopened country, Mexico, prior to allowing competition by any other Distributors. This favoritism allowed the Petersons to gain an immense advantage and a much greater income than the normal Distributor who was bound by the no-selling limitation.
39. While the favored prosper, the disfavored suffer. In one instance, one Texas million dollar distributor was terminated when he began to sell competing products. Another Southern California distributor was terminated when her husband began to sell competing products. Yet, as described herein, Herbalife has also chosen to turn a blind eye to identical behavior when it benefited the favored. Plaintiffs are currently investigating other such examples of disparate treatment among Distributors.

[DaysleepeR]

Zar ti nisi uspjesan distributer koji nije rob velikih poslodavaca, ima punu kontrolu nad svojim prihodima, ustaje u 10 ujutro i slicna MLM sranja?

Cuj nemas vremena, pa zar ne rade drugi ljudi za tebe vec dosad?

[debela]

Zar ti nisi uspjesan distributer koji nije rob velikih poslodavaca, ima punu kontrolu nad svojim prihodima, ustaje u 10 ujutro i slicna MLM sranja?

Cuj nemas vremena, pa zar ne rade drugi ljudi za tebe vec dosad?

uhvatio se covjek none. sta ce drugo. nema cime pobiti ono sto ljudi pisu pa ko biva bjezi na vakat

[observer]

Zar ti nisi uspjesan distributer koji nije rob velikih poslodavaca, ima punu kontrolu nad svojim prihodima, ustaje u 10 ujutro i slicna MLM sranja?

Cuj nemas vremena, pa zar ne rade drugi ljudi za tebe vec dosad?

Dakle, ustajem u 7 svako jutro, na spavanje idem u12.
Uspjesan sam distributer - sa mnogo zadovoljnih konzumenata.
Kao sto rekoh na sasatanak pa u lice reci sve te gluposti.
Imam kontrolu nad prihodima i "za ovakve prepiske" nemam previse vremena.
Za mene ne radi niko. Iskljucivo licno radim za sebe.

I dakako vidljive su tvoje deformacije o Herbalifeu, pa zato i imas takav odnos.

[Bamboo]

Zar ti nisi uspjesan distributer koji nije rob velikih poslodavaca, ima punu kontrolu nad svojim prihodima, ustaje u 10 ujutro i slicna MLM sranja?

Cuj nemas vremena, pa zar ne rade drugi ljudi za tebe vec dosad?

Ma svi oni rade negdje (pa i observer garant pise sa radnog mjesta), a HL im je dodatna zarada. Zato se i trude tako puno - HL im dodje skoro kao hobi a umjesto da trose (kao na ostale hobije), ti jos zaradjujes...
Vjerujte mi, dusa me boli sto mi iz kucnog budzeta svaki mjesec ode nekih 200KM na te HL-preparate (a neki observer negdje dobro zivi od dijela tih para), ali se nadam da smo na dobromputu da 'prosvijetlimo' mog muza pa predjemo na laganu prirodnu kuhinju njegove zene (riba, piletina, povrce,...)

[Dirty Harry]

Nego observer, ne rece ti nista o razlici u cijenama koju si naveo (93) i koju sam ja naveo (160), hajde mi malo pojasni te varijacije u cijeni.

Skok vrijednosti na svjetskom tržištu?
Potreba za novim automobilom?

....

Kao sto vec jednom rekoh F1 je 93KM a ne 160KM.
Sta si kupio?

Srecom nisam ja nista kupio. U pitanju je paket u kome se nalazi kutija magičnog praška od 550 grama, mislim da je F1 u pitanju, plastična posuda za pripremanje čarobnog šejka i hrpa papira i dvd čini mi se......
I to je 160 KM. ne 93. Dakle jos jednom 160,00 (stotinuisezdeset) KM.

[shin]

DVD je za mantriranje, sigurno lik prica ispred Ferrarija kojeg je kupio nakon dvije godine sektarenja.

[car-x]

Dakle, ustajem u 7 svako jutro, na spavanje idem u12.
Uspjesan sam distributer - sa mnogo zadovoljnih konzumenata.
Kao sto rekoh na sasatanak pa u lice reci sve te gluposti.
Imam kontrolu nad prihodima i "za ovakve prepiske" nemam previse vremena.
Za mene ne radi niko. Iskljucivo licno radim za sebe.

I dakako vidljive su tvoje deformacije o Herbalifeu, pa zato i imas takav odnos.

uhhh.. meni ovo zvuci ko trajno iscrpljivanje organizma.. tim tempom bi i prasak za pecivo umucen u mlijeko pomogo da se smrsa..

[latinalover]

sad ce observer, dok dobije upute iz staba, svima vama sve objasniti

Ej "debela", imam jedan sjajan recept za smrsati
da li te zanima?

preusmjeravas nam paznju ,ha?
zasto nisi citirao komentar gospodjice ,ujedno i sagovornice, BAMBOO?

[observer]

Nego observer, ne rece ti nista o razlici u cijenama koju si naveo (93) i koju sam ja naveo (160), hajde mi malo pojasni te varijacije u cijeni.

Skok vrijednosti na svjetskom tržištu?
Potreba za novim automobilom?

....

Kao sto vec jednom rekoh F1 je 93KM a ne 160KM.
Sta si kupio?

Srecom nisam ja nista kupio. U pitanju je paket u kome se nalazi kutija magičnog praška od 550 grama, mislim da je F1 u pitanju, plastična posuda za pripremanje čarobnog šejka i hrpa papira i dvd čini mi se......
I to je 160 KM. ne 93. Dakle jos jednom 160,00 (stotinuisezdeset) KM.

vidi , ti uistinu neznas ni o cemu govoris. To je nestosasvim drugo.
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