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insomnia78 wrote:Jean-Luc Mélenchon Jedan od predsjednickih kandidata u Francuskoj danas je imao skup u Lyonu ali se istovremeno kao hologram obratio svojim pristalicama u Parizu
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Spavas li mirno Jean-Luc Picarde?

Krokodajl wrote:@Insomnia, da li je moguće da je popularnost Benoit Hamona toliko porasla otkako je potvrđen na mjesto kandidata Socijalista, vidim da je sada to već respektabilnih 16% po anketama, a bili su i on i Valls na 6-7%, je li to znači da će i oni koji bi podržali Vallsa podržati Hamona ili je ovaj pokupio simpatiztere Melenchona jer vidim trodimenzionalni pada.

Vjerovatno da je pokupio i Vallsove glasace. Odnosno glasace PS-a

Finale: Mélenchon vs. Le Pen.

beobasket wrote:Finale: Mélenchon vs. Le Pen.

U tom slučaju mislim da bi se većina Francuza ubila

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Krokodajl wrote:

beobasket wrote:Finale: Mélenchon vs. Le Pen.

U tom slučaju mislim da bi se većina Francuza ubila

Kad Trump je mogao do Bijele Kuce sto ovih dvoje nece moci do finala. Mene u Svijetu politike vise nista ne moze iznenaditi.

Vrlo moguce da ce Marina u drugi krug. Mada su izgubili ooprilicno pozicija na regionalnim izborima onomad

Ljudi tesko prihvataju ali ona i sl njoj nemoraju ovaj put pobjediti ali kad tad ce u skorijoj buducnosti. Euro i EU su proslost projekt koji potepeno umire. Ovo je isto kad neko negira los brak, tjesi se, pa dobro koji dan duze ali tu je kraj braku, tako je eu i euro. Do 2030 najdalje je EU defacto proslost.

http://www.rtl.fr/actu/politique/marine ... 7787143387

Marine Le Pen : la Russie pousserait sa candidature, selon la DGSE
Les services secrets français s'inquiètent de la menace d'une cyberattaque sur l'élection présidentielle, rapporte "Le Canard Enchaîné".

Marine Le Pen: Russia would push her candidacy, according to the DGSE
The French secret services are worried about the threat of cyberattack on the presidential election, reports "Le Canard Enchaîné".

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http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/08/fre ... ck-le-pen/

French Intelligence Agency Braces for Russian Bots to Back Le Pen

France’s spy agency believes Russia intends to try to influence France’s upcoming elections in favor of far-right candidate Marine Le Pen.

On Wednesday, Le Canard Enchaîné said that France’s Directorate-General for External Security (DGSE) believes that Russia will help Le Pen by way of bots that will flood the internet with millions of positive posts about Le Pen — and by publishing her opponents’ confidential emails. The level of threat is so high that the next defense meeting at the Élysée, France’s presidential palace, will be on this subject, the paper said.

France has clearly already been bracing for outside interference. French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian already said France wants “to learn lessons from the future” following American allegations of Russian influence in their elections. WikiLeaks, believed by U.S. Democrats to have worked with Russia in the past presidential election, already promoted documents from its archives tied to center-right candidate François Fillon and center-left candidate Emmanuel Macron. Russian state-sponsored media already suggested Macron is a U.S. agent who is lobbying on behalf of banks and that he has a secret gay lover, a wholly unsubstantiated claim made by Kremlin-backed propaganda pusher Dmitry Kiselyov. Macron, surging in the polls, is perhaps the candidate most likely to take on Le Pen in the second round of presidential voting this May, which polls, for what they’re worth, say he would win.

What is new is the extent to which the French government itself seems to be trying to deal with this perceived threat to its election, now just over two months away.

Le Pen’s National Front seems less perturbed. Its vice president, Florian Philippot, told French media outlet RTL.fr that they, too, are counting on the state to preserve the security of the presidential elections.

To be fair, leaks by Russia aren’t the only ones hurting Le Pen’s opposition. Le Canard Enchaîné is the same paper that revealed that François Fillon paid his wife and children almost one million euros from state coffers to serve as his parliamentary aides, and that his wife received 45,000 euros as a severance package.

Despite all the furor, Fillon has said he will not pull out of the race, proving that some political parties, at least, do not need Russian meddling to hurt their chances of winning.

ako francuska napusti EU mislim da će to biti kraj EU
il će se morati vršti rebranding
mada sumnjam ali eto

fazer wrote:
moguce je da se radi o historijskim dogadjajima poput bitke kod toursa ili beckoj opsadi koji su kasnije stvorile takav nacin razmisljanja, no to su samo nagadjanja

Ma hajd molim te, nisu ih Jevreji napadali kod Toura niti opsjedali Beč pa su ih efikasno istrijebili a oni su tu bili mnogo duže od bilo kojih muslimana. To je jednostavno civilizacijsko-religijska averzija koja datira još od vakta Karla Velikog i nikada neće nestati. Skylimit dobro kaže da to nema veze s terorizmom.

Dis gon be gud

https://www.ft.com/content/70f31b82-72f ... 38f7124611



Frexit: Le Pen to seek euro exit in six-month negotiation plan





France’s far-right presidential candidate Marine le Pen will look to take the country out of the single currency area in six months, setting out a radical economic vision for the eurozone’s second largest economy should she be elected in May.

Jean Messiha, an adviser to Ms Le Pen, has fleshed out the eurosceptic party’s promises to pursue a “Frexit”, claiming the French state would redenominate its more than €2tn klix debt into a new franc and “guarantee” companies will still have access to the debt markets to help smooth the transition out of the euro.

Ms Le Pen has long promised to restore monetary sovereignty to France, railing against the EU’s debt rules and prohibitions on government spending. Her advisor’s comments flesh out the FN’s plans which could include holding a referendum on eurozone membership and central-bank financed government spending.

In an interview with Reuters, Mr Messiha said the party’s “preferred scenario would be to agree jointly on the dismantling of the eurozone”.

If Brussels does not cooperate, the FN would hold a referendum on a unilateral exit from the single currency area – the first in the bloc’s 18-year history, he said, adding:
The FN’s program explicitly foresees re-establishing the possibility for the French state to refinance itself at the Banque de France.
Earlier this month, Ms Le Pen said she favoured a return to the “Ecu” – a pre-eurozone currency regime where member states would return to their national currencies but retain the euro as a common accounting currency.

Her tough stance on the eurozone is in contrast to her main rivals for the French presidency. Emmanuel Macron, a centre-left independent candidate who served as economy minister, is in favour of pooling more fiscal sovereignty to Brussels, and creating a eurozone-wide treasury and finance minister.

Ms Le Pen’s right-wing rival Francois Fillon has vowed to unleash a wave of Thatcherite reforms in the country and stay in the single currency area.

Despite the FN’s calls for a “Frexit”, latest polling shows the eurozone enjoys record popularity, with 70 per cent approval ratings.

Presidential polling meanwhile suggests Ms Le Pen will contest the final round presidential run off in early May but could lose out to either Mr Macron or Mr Fillon in a closely-fought final round vote.

Bookmaker Betfair has placed Mr Macron as the 6/4 odds-on favourite for the presidency.

jbg
ja sam za europu s njemackom i francuskom

ovo mi se ne svidja ali ako to narod zeli ko sam ja da se protivim

Juppe ulijeće kao zamjena za Fillona, prema nekim istraživanjima čak i veća popularnost od Le Pen i to u prvom krugu.

Da li će se Fillon u tom slučaju povući ili ide kao neovisni ?

Francuz, šta kažeš na ovo ?

šta ova francuska tetkica upozorava na demokratsku volju naroda

što se nie kandidirao da vidimo volju naroda pored tvog imena jel šupčino liberalna

zena od fillona optuzena za pronevjeru javnih sredstava, lazirala radno vrijeme, ogromne cifre za 10-ak godina


ilitiga - zna s ko dobija tim

Gledali ko TV5Monde Ovi iz Le Penove pravi razbojnici

Inace sam old school ljevicar do kosti, ali u ovom slucaju podrzavam desnicare... Evropi treba neko ko ce lupiti sakom o sto i rijesiti neke stvari, inace ce uskoro propasti ono sto je stoljecima gradjeno, privreda, kultura, nauka, moralne vrijednosti itd. I tu ne mislim samo na EU nego na cijelu Evropu kao regiju

Le Pen je seljančura koja će mlatnuti guzicom o ledinu.

JedanOdBraceMorica wrote:Inace sam old school ljevicar do kosti, ali u ovom slucaju podrzavam desnicare... Evropi treba neko ko ce lupiti sakom o sto i rijesiti neke stvari, inace ce uskoro propasti ono sto je stoljecima gradjeno, privreda, kultura, nauka, moralne vrijednosti itd. I tu ne mislim samo na EU nego na cijelu Evropu kao regiju

Desničari su uvijek donosili samo destrukciju u svakom smislu i nikad bili rješenje problema.

nek ljevičari donose mir i prosperitet

samo me jedna stvar zanima

za ove se skandale znalo i ranije
zašto su aktiviirani poslije obajve natjecanja za predsjednika

pomislio bih da je riječ o nekim ucjenama

nemoj se kandidirati nećemo te istraživati

i onda se neko pohasi i krene s kampanjom

fakat ne kontam
ako si krao zar to ne treba odmah ispitati