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#76 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 22/10/2019 22:31
by kabal1337
basicm wrote:Vidis kako ste vi korisni, znaci pogase se greske da ih ne prikazuje a on samo sto izdahnuo nije?
Moze li to na svim autima?
Nek ti strućnjak sa ćunom objasni

#77 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 04/11/2019 18:53
by HardCore
Moze li se gdje kod nas izvristi vracanje starijeg softwera, uradjen je update zbog ovog dieselgate-a....

#78 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 04/11/2019 18:56
by amar1994
:lol: :run:

#79 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 04/11/2019 23:07
by basicm
HardCore wrote:Moze li se gdje kod nas izvristi vracanje starijeg softwera, uradjen je update zbog ovog dieselgate-a....
Zanimljivo. Moze li se znati razlog zbog cega nazad? Sta je gore u odnosu na prije?

#80 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 06:53
by mk ultra
Dpf off? :mrgreen:

#81 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 07:28
by Throttle
Pa bilo je price da ce bit manja snaga updateom softvera da bi norme bile ok

#82 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 07:36
by Bakir1
manja snaga, veca potrosnja, cesce paljenje dpf-a.

#83 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 11:51
by bjelic
Throttle wrote:Pa bilo je price da ce bit manja snaga updateom softvera da bi norme bile ok
kod mene su uradili taj updejt i primjetno je manja snaga motora i auto je generalno tromije, dok je potrošnja koliko sam mogao upratiti ista.

#84 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 12:18
by amar1994
Prodajte govna i rjesite se problema :thumbup:

#85 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 12:53
by adisonE
amar1994 wrote:Prodajte govna i rjesite se problema :thumbup:
Koje auto nije govno u nekom trenutku? :D

#86 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 13:07
by Throttle
Pisalo se da ti sa 140KS padnu na 110-120 updateom softvera, to je ono baš bezveze ako moraju skinut toliko snage. Da ne govorim da plaćaš skuplje registraciju, imaš istu potrošnju kao i jači auto i još znaš da ne ide kako treba... :roll:

#87 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 13:10
by konektovan
Uradis remap.... :mrgreen:

#88 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 13:14
by Throttle
Ko da nije dovoljno prčkano po softveru nego de još i remap :lol:

#89 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 13:25
by konektovan
Throttle wrote:Ko da nije dovoljno prčkano po softveru nego de još i remap :lol:
Pa nisu macolom prckali,...... :mrgreen:

#90 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 13:40
by bjelic
Throttle wrote:Ko da nije dovoljno prčkano po softveru nego de još i remap :lol:
zaboravio sam da kažem da su naknadno kada je auto prijavilo grešku emisije motora ugradili neki filter. smijesno je to da se radi o motoru euro 6 oznake.

#91 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 13:45
by amar1994
Nije to vidjelo eura 6,dabogda da je i euro 5..
Throttle wrote:Pisalo se da ti sa 140KS padnu na 110-120 updateom softvera, to je ono baš bezveze ako moraju skinut toliko snage. Da ne govorim da plaćaš skuplje registraciju, imaš istu potrošnju kao i jači auto i još znaš da ne ide kako treba... :roll:
Znaci to im je realna snaga,vrh :lol: :lol: :thumbup:

#92 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 13:50
by Throttle
Ma to sam negdje pročitao, nemam pojma jel baš toliko al eto... Ako mene slagaše... :mrgreen:

#93 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 13:54
by amar1994
tu je negdje istina,znam da mi jedan drug iz HR prodao to,kaze nisam kupio 1.6tdi,koga oni zajebaju :lol: ,eno ga jase benvejca :D

#94 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 13:58
by Throttle
Ma kako god, niko se ni počešao nije zbog toga što prodaju auta sa manjom snagom od deklarisane

#95 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 14:05
by UmaX
Pa sad, sjecam se dobro da su u Auto Bildu (njemackom) za Merivu 1.7CDTI izmjerili 10KS vise od specifikacije. Tako je i 2.0TDI mogao imati vise, a da su ga sad vratili na pravu snagu. :-D

#96 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 14:07
by TheGodfather001
Laž. Uradili meni u ovlaštenom apdejt, dobio vaučer 35EUR, 170 KS vuku kao što su vukli prije. Jedino što osjetim da se DPF češće aktivira, tj. podigne mi obrtaje i uključi ventilator u gradskoj gužvi, ali se lampica DPF-a ne pali.

#97 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 14:17
by Throttle
But are the cars as good as before the reprogramming of the engines? We have tested ten cars of different brands – Skoda, Volkswagen, Audi – all from the Volkswagen Group, before and after reprogramming.
The results are somewhat different. Some cars have gained power and have a higher fuel consumption, but most cars have lost performance. Both torque and power have decreased after Volkswagen’s fix. The loss is as much as ten percent and in addition to that the torque curve has shifted. This means having to push down harder before the acceleration sets in – which makes the car feel weaker. On top of this the tests often show an increase in fuel consumption after the Volkswagen fix.
In effect the owner is not handed back the same car as before the recall. It is cleaner, but often both weaker and thirstier. When a car loses as much as ten percent of its torque it is noticeable in everyday driving, not just on a racetrack or in a lab. It is noticeable in overtaking and towing heavy trailers.

One of the tested cars is a four-wheel drive Passat Alltrack. Before going to the Volkswagen workshop, we measured 176 horsepower and 379 Nm in torque. After the fix, only 163 horsepower and 369 Nm remained. The numbers may not seem that different but the torque curve has changed completely. Before the fix, maximum torque at nearly 380 Nm was found between 1500 and 2300 rpms. After reprogramming at Volkswagen, the torque curve slopes. At 1500 rpms, the engine only provides 220 Nm. It is not until 1900 rpms we get the maximum 369 Nm. Since this is the rpm interval most used in a diesel car, the effect is felt almost constantly.
https://teknikensvarld.se/dieselgate-vo ... ix-456111/

Kažem opet, nemam iskustva al na dosta mjesta se spominje pad snage. Na ovom gore Alltracku nije toliko u brojkama koliko su krivulje pobjegle od originalnih

#98 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 14:29
by amar1994
Throttle wrote:Ma kako god, niko se ni počešao nije zbog toga što prodaju auta sa manjom snagom od deklarisane
kupovali i kupovat ce i dalje :D

jbte 406 2.0Hdi je imao 110ks 99te :-) :lol: ,guzeljaju i dalje putevima bez problema,a jedan od prvih CR motora :)

#99 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 16:07
by basicm
Malo frtajler zakrenuti i imace ful snagu.
U svakom slucaju nista strasno, par konja gore dolje.

#100 Re: Passat 6 CR 2009 godina Common Rail Motor 2.0 TDI 103kw

Posted: 05/11/2019 16:08
by RPM
amar1994 wrote:
Throttle wrote:Ma kako god, niko se ni počešao nije zbog toga što prodaju auta sa manjom snagom od deklarisane
kupovali i kupovat ce i dalje :D

jbte 406 2.0Hdi je imao 110ks 99te :-) :lol: ,guzeljaju i dalje putevima bez problema,a jedan od prvih CR motora :)
Tad nije ni bilo DPF-a.