Svijet o Bosni

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#76 Re: Svijet o Bosni

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BHCluster wrote:
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Da, samo sto ce se "organizovani kriminala" rijetko kad zaletiti u masu ljudi sa kamionom

Pa eto i ta statistika obara teoriju ovih "ali". Znaci ipak se jadni kolonizirani ne svete svojim kolonizatorima nego su tu neke druge stvari u pitanju
Zasto bi se neko iz "organizovanog kriminala" zaletio u grupu ljudi? To neko mjerilo? Pogledaj statistiku bilo koje drzave po ovom pitanju i onda se zapitaj zasto se ovolika hampa ne dize za nesto sto kosta u ljudskim zivotima vise nego terorizam.

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Ovi me "ali" nikada nisu ni zanimali.

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Ako ti nije tesko molim te. :wink:
Ne mozes porediti efekte, zrtve, cijenu za drzavu, posljedice organizovanog kriminala i terorizma. Ne mozes

A sto se tice "pe pe esa" dovoljna je samo kvacica :DImage
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#77 Re: Svijet o Bosni

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insomnia78 wrote:
BHCluster wrote:
insomnia78 wrote:
Da, samo sto ce se "organizovani kriminala" rijetko kad zaletiti u masu ljudi sa kamionom

Pa eto i ta statistika obara teoriju ovih "ali". Znaci ipak se jadni kolonizirani ne svete svojim kolonizatorima nego su tu neke druge stvari u pitanju
Zasto bi se neko iz "organizovanog kriminala" zaletio u grupu ljudi? To neko mjerilo? Pogledaj statistiku bilo koje drzave po ovom pitanju i onda se zapitaj zasto se ovolika hampa ne dize za nesto sto kosta u ljudskim zivotima vise nego terorizam.

P.S.
Ovi me "ali" nikada nisu ni zanimali.

P.P.S
Ako ti nije tesko molim te. :wink:
Ne mozes porediti efekte, zrtve, cijenu za drzavu, posljedice organizovanog kriminala i terorizma. Ne mozes
Zasto? Mislis li da ne suradjuju ovi iz organizovanog kriminala sa teroristima?
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#78 Re: Svijet o Bosni

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Naravno da da. Mada sve manje jer drzave drasticno rezu kazne za pomoc teroristima. Osim toga ovaj novi vid napada, hladnim oruzje i ili zaljetanjem u masu iskljucuje potrebu za navavljanjem oruzja ili eksploziva i jos vise otezava ulazenje u trag


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commendatore wrote:
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commendatore wrote:problem i jest u tome sto neko osporava i pojavi se da prdi o terorizmu u Parizu a Francuska napravila vise stotina hiljada zrtava po Sjevernoj i Srednjoj Affrici.... i sad kao "kako to da se kod nas desi"..... terorizam kao terorizam koji neko provodi iz nekih rekreativnih pobuda ne postoji....danasnja desavanja koja se lako nazivaju teror i terorizam su iznjedrena iz tlacenja i siromastva..... redovno je instrument a ne posljedica.... jer je sa najslabijim slojem uvijek bilo najlakse manipulisat.....

o tome sam pricao kad si nacrtao smajli kojem nista nije jasno.... ko je to Bosnu nesto plaho volio i cijenio u svijetu zajedno sa nasim zrtvama na pocetu rata.... cekali su ko na iglama da Milosevic rijesi muslimansko pitanje zauvijek u BIH i sad eto odjednom svjeCski smetaju vehbosi na standovima a cetnici sa nozevima u zvaljama koji se postrojavaju ne..... o tome pricam
Vezano za prvi paragraf, po tebi je OK da se "prava na odmazdu" baziraju na stvarima koje su se desile decenijama ili stoljećima prije, kao i to da su živući praunuci nekog robovlasnika legitimna meta te odmazde, jer... svi su krivi za greške i grijehe svojih predaka? Zanimljiv stav, koji naravno niti ima ikakvog smisla niti veze sa istinom.

A vezano uz drugi paragraf, da - širitelji laži i oni koji miješaju istinu sa lažju smetaju. To što BiH ima više neprijatelja nikako ne umanjuje opasnost koja proističe od bilo kojeg od njih.
mnogi su sebi sami priustili pravo na odmazdu - Hirosima, Nagasaki, Afganistan, Irak, izmisljali prava i dje treba i ne treba - naplacivali u stotinama hiljada drzava pa im se neki danas dive.... [1] mislim u cemu je razlika kad amer rokne atomskom 200 000 civila naredbom americkog predsjednika i u cemu je razlika kad se neki hadalj raznese i pobije 80-90 civila?

upregni mozdane vijuge pa ces vidjet da su to samo djelimicno razlicita desavanja....

[2] pa opet Ujka Sem niko ne smije nazivati teroristickom drzavom.... :wink:
Ovaj tvoj post veze nema sa onim koji sam citirao, kao ni sa mojim odgovorom na taj. Skrećeš sa priče. Govorili smo o tvom pravdanju današnjih zločina nad ljudima onim zločinima koji su učinjeni decenijama ili stoljećima prije. Ako ćemo tom logikom ići, onda je sasvim uredu da npr. nemuslimani istrijebe arape obzirom da arapi nisu imali problem da "počiste" pokoje nemuslimansko pleme, svojevremeno. Ili, npr., da je sasvim OK da se turci eliminišu sa lica zemlje, jer su isti osvajali, pljačkali i td. dobar dio Evrope?

Ako ćemo tako, hajmo jednostavno istrijebiti čitavo čovječanstvo, jer "vraćanjem unatrag" uvijek ćemo naći da je neko nekog osvojio i pokorio, te naravno poslije i iskoristio.

[1] U čemu je razlika? Kako bi bilo u tome što je "amer" samo reagovao na akciju japanca? Ili da su te dvije države bile zvanično u ratu, gdje SAD-u je bio objavljen rat, a pored toga Japanci nisu imali problema sa etničkim čišćenjem ne-Japanaca poput Kineza?

Pričaš suvišnu priču ovdje, ne možeš se izvući niti opravdati.

[2] SAD nije teroristička država zbog činjenice da se ista vodi primarno materijalnim interesima, što bi ti trebalo biti jasno imajući u vidu kako u samim SAD žive kako nemuslimani, tako i muslimani, ateisti, homoseksualci i dr., a svi imaju neka osnovna prava, od kojih bar pravo na život i tjelesni te materijalni integritet i zaštitu.

Za razliku od terorističke "države" (koja, naravno, nije država), poput "I"SIS-a, koja je jasno bazirana na ideološkim principima, čije čak i malo nepoštivanje je razlog za egzekuciju.

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#80 Re: Svijet o Bosni

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insomnia78 wrote:Naravno da da. Mada sve manje jer drzave drasticno rezu kazne za pomoc teroristima. Osim toga ovaj novi vid napada, hladnim oruzje i ili zaljetanjem u masu iskljucuje potrebu za navavljanjem oruzja ili eksploziva i jos vise otezava ulazenje u trag
Da ako dugorocno gledamo to nema veceg efekta jer su ti teroristi za jednokratnu upotrebu. Dok ovi drugi "organizovani kriminal" non stop profitiraju (finansijski) a ubiru veci broj zrtava i to uz medijsku sutnju.
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#81 Re: Svijet o Bosni

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sve dok imamo vehabijska sela, zaseoke il cak prostorije u gradovima gdje policija ne moze i ne zeli uc da ih ceslja svako malo nemam nikakav problem da nas citav svijet gleda ko leglo takvih i buduci epicentar terorista u svijetu
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#82 Re: Svijet o Bosni

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Svi regionalni, pa ii svjetski mediji objavili su su danas kako je došlo do sukoba u selafijskoj zajednici u selu Ošve u kojem su sudjelovali i Adem Karamuja, ranije uhapšen pod sumnjom da se borio za ISIS, te tamošnji vjerski vođa Izet Hadžić s kojim su reporteri Telegrama u julu 2015. proveli dan.

Među odmetnicima je navodno i bivši pripadnik Islamske države, Muhamed Tutmić, već hapšvan i optužen zbog terorizma. Kako detaljnije objašnjavaju medijii, u selu je došlo do svađe, na kraju i do pucnjave zbog dugogodišnje nesuglasice oko korištenja zajedničkog spremnika voda.

Do sukoba je došlo jer su mještani htjeli isključiti jednog od napadača s vodovoda, zbog njegovog duga prema zajednici. On je iz osvete pogonskim gorivom zagadio zajednički spremik s vodom i pritom pucao na kuću Izeta Hadžića, vođu tamošnje selafijske zajednice. Lokalni mediji neslužbeno su otkrili kako je riječ o dvojici počinitelja Jasminu Batanoviću i Ademu Karamuji.

Uhapšen pod optužbom da se borio za ISIS

Batanović je uhapšen, a policija BiH i dalje traga za Ademom Karamujom, rođenim 1983. godine. On je 2014., zajedno s još 11 osoba, uhapšen u akciji Damask pod optužbom da se borio za ISIS. Među uhapšenima tada je bio i notorni Bilal Bosnić.

Prema izračunima koje objavljuju regionalni mediji, iz Ošvi, tog malog mjesta nedaleko od Maglaja, tristotinjak kilometara udaljenom od Zagreba, u Siriju i Irak otišlo je, prema broju stanovnika, najviše ljudi. Iz Državne agencije za istrage i zaštitu BiH još prije četiri godine potvrđeno je kako su se tamo nastanili pripadnici radikalnog krila vehabijskog pokreta.

Prema informacijama, u selo se među prvima doselio Harun Mehičević za kojim je Australija izdala potjernicu zbog terorizma, a lani je objavljeno kako je u samoubilačkom ekscesu u Bagdadu poginuo mještanin Emrah Fojnica, svojedobno optužen za teroristički napad na američku ambasadu u Sarajevu.

Zašto su Ošve zanimljive selafistima?

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Selo Ošve istaknuto je kao jedna od najproblematičnijih točki i u stručnoj studiji Zov rata u Siriji i bosansko­hercegovački kontingent stranih boraca, koju su prije nešto više od godinu dana izdali Vlado Azinović, profesor na sarajevskom Fakultetu političkih znanosti, i Muhamed Jusić, islamski teolog i publicist.

Koautor studije, profesor Azinović smatra da postoje dvije teorije zašto se selafisti naseljavaju upravo u selima poput Gornje Maoče ili Ošvi. “Prva teza je da se selafisti naseljavaju na prostoru u doticaju etničkih granica unutar BiH kako bi djelovali kao neka vrsta čuvara prostora i vjere.

Ne vjerujem u to jer su te granice, zapravo, nastale na tadašnjoj liniji konfrontacije sukobljenih vojnih postrojbi. I tako su povučene. Razumljivija je tvrdnja da su selafisti ušli na to područje jer su, uglavnom Srbi koji se ne žele vraćati, odlučili prodati svoja, doslovno, razrušena imanja koje nitko drugi nije želio kupiti. Njima to savršeno odgovora. Žive daleko od moderne civilizacije, izolirani od svega izvanjskog”, komentirao je.

Nedugo nakon što je objavljena spomenuta studija bosanskih profesora, reporteri Telegrama otišli su u Ošve. Proveli su dan s tamošnjim selafijskim vođom, Izetom Hadžićem, na čiju je kuću u ovom posljednjem sukobu pucao spomenuti Jasmin Batanović. U nastavku prenosimo intervju s gospodinom Hadžićem, izvorno objavljen u julu 2015. godine.

TELEGRAM: U posljednje vrijeme mnogi mediji pišu o odlascima građana BiH u ISIS. Jesu li organizirani?

HADŽIĆ: Odlazak ne može biti organiziran. Razmislite samo ko će normalan pustiti petoricu bradonja sa ženama i djecom da idu. Uostalom, ko će normalan gurati žene i djecu u rat. To dovoljno govori da su svi koji su otišli, išli samoinicijativno. Vodili su sa sobom cijele svoje obitelji. To dovoljno govori o tome da su smatrali kako je Sirija obećana zemlja.

TELEGRAM: Postoji li finansiranje odlazaka u Siriju?

HADŽIĆ: Ma dajte, molim vas. Svako može posuditi 200 eura od prijatelja, obitelji ili poznanika. Let do Turske košta stotinjak eura. Čovjek sjedne u avion i ode. Kakvo je to financiranje terorista?

TELEGRAM: Tvrdite da niko ne financira odlaske na bojišta u Siriji. Ko je onda odgovoran za tolike odlaske državljana BiH?

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HADŽIĆ: Za odlaske u Siriju je, uslovno rečeno, kriva država. Prije svega, ovo društvo odbacilo je te ljude, stavilo ih na margine. Prije svega mislim na činjenicu da ti ljudi nigdje ne mogu raditi. Bosna je i inače bijedna država, a ovi momci su prakticiranjem svoje vjere bačeni na samo dno. U takvim situacijama čovjek počne razmišljati, nemam posla, nemam ništa. Rat je dobra prilika, možda i nešto zaradim, a u ratu se ne radi, tamo se jede i spava. I onda su ljudi posuđivali novac, kupovali avionske karte i odlazili. Mislili su da je tamo obećana zemlja. Da su imalo znali što je to rat…

TELEGRAM: Imate li ikakvih kontakata s bilo kime iz ISIS­-a?

HADŽIĆ: Iz samozvanog hilafeta, kako je naziv za Islamsku državu među njenim pripadnicima, primam prijetnje otkako sam na Youtubeu objavio svoju poruku da Bošnjaci nikad nisu i, ako Bog da, nikad neće provoditi terorističke napade i u kojem sam naglasio da u Bosni ne postoje terorističke organizacije. Kažu mi da nisam musliman, da sam nevjernik, da me treba skratiti za glavu. Ove prijetnje shvatam ozbiljno i već sam ih prijavio policiji.

TELEGRAM: Financira li vaš život ovdje neko?

HADŽIĆ: Malo je to nekulturno pitanje. Ja nisam ni kriminalac ni lopov. Evo, u ovih dvadeset godina nitko nije dokazao da me neko financira. U prošlosti je bilo situacija da bi netko poslao novac iz dobročinstva ili za zekat, ali čak ni tad nisam bio sklon primanju tog novca. Međutim, ni toga više nema. Rekao sam ljudima, nemojte slati novac, stavit će vas na popis da pomažete teroristima. Tako da nam je skučen prostor života. Ovo prerasta u diskriminaciju, ali to niko ne govori. Naprimjer, ja ne mogu nigdje raditi, niko me neće zaposliti.

TELEGRAM: Želite reći da nitko ne financira ovakve izolirane zajednice po bosanskim selima?

HADŽIĆ: Neću reći da tog financiranja nema, vjerovtno ima ljudi koji dobivaju novac, a ne rade ništa. Ali pogledajte samo moje ruke, ovo nisu ruke glazbenika. Da mene neko financira, ja ne bih radio u poljoprivredi. Zašto bih čitav dan radio ako ne moram?

TELEGRAM: Imate li kakvih problema sa komšijama, kako vas ljudi gledaju zbog brade?

HADŽIĆ: Nemam problema zato što me ljudi poznaju. Ali pitanje je na mjestu zato što se moja populacija, ljudi s bradom, stavlja u kontekst s ljudima koji vode rat ubijanja. Ja ga neću nazvati džihadom jer je pitanje smijem li ga nazvati džihadom. Ljudi ovakvog profila su opisani, donekle i s pravom, kao ubice, potencijalni teroristi. Ali, vidjeli ste ovog idiota na plaži u Tunisu, on nije imao brade. Dakle, čak i ljudi bez brade ubijaju.

TELEGRAM: Imate li problema s policijom?

HADŽIĆ: Ma čujte, kako govorim braći (drugim selefijama) haj'mo gledati tuđim očima. Evo, da si ti policajac koji zaustavlja nekoga s bradom. Pa ti ne znaš hoće li on eksplodirati, ne znaš kako će reagirati. Mene zadržavaju satima na graničnim prijelazima. U takvim situacijama zamolim za kavu i sok i odgovaram na sva pitanja koja mi postave. Nemam drugog izbora.
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... .html?_r=0


Sarajevo
A City That Never Forgets
By ALEX CREVAR
Laura Boushnak for The New York Times

For nearly two decades, I have lived — on and off — in Sarajevo, an energized tangle of traditions wedged in a valley and fueled by colliding empires and cultures. From one window in my apartment and office (where I work as an editor and writer), I can see the main mosque, built in the 16th century, and Bascarsija, the old Ottoman bazaar. Another window overlooks the Miljacka River and the Latin Bridge, which leads to the green steeple of the Franciscan monastery and the snow-capped mountains beyond.

When people ask how I, an American from Atlanta, ended up in the capital of Bosnia and Herzegovina, a city only now on travelers’ maps, I say it was a combination of Sarajevo’s under-the-radar subtlety and historic complexity. Here, modernity struggles against Old World traditions. Over the last century, this tenuous balance has been tested time and again.

Below my apartment, for example, Austria’s Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated on June 28, 1914. That event sparked World War I and transformed the world. In the 1990s, Sarajevo was under a nearly four-year siege during the war that destroyed Yugoslavia and permanently rejiggered the Balkans.

Today, Bosnia’s chief city is still about change — and perspective. The tile-inlaid words “Sarajevo Meeting of Cultures” stretch across the main pedestrian avenue and pinpoint the spot where Ottoman flagstones (to the East) meet Austro-Hungarian Secessionist facades (to the West). Depending on the observer, this unexpected exactitude either inspires platitudes about diversity or is a reminder of a tumultuous past.

The Sarajevo I have come to love pays homage to every era. Recently, I found myself walking past ateliers, shops selling hand-sewn slippers, kebab stands, the aroma of hookah smoke. Climbing a cobbled alley, I stepped onto the porch of Cajdzinica Dzirlo, a teahouse anchored in Ottoman tradition. Here, patrons lounge on cushions and prayer rugs, and sip salep, a steaming drink made of wild orchid root and mixed with milk and cinnamon. “We have 50 teas,” says the owner, Dijana Dzirlo. “But we are not about tea, we are about our relationship to people.”

Later I might jump centuries ahead to the Yugoslavia-nostalgic tavern Zara iz duvara, which serves Bosnian fare like sarma, minced meat and rice rolled in cabbage. Zara becomes an open-mic venue three nights a week. Lamplight spreads under wood-beam ceilings and across lace curtains as guests lock arms, puff cigarettes, drink beer and rakija (schnapps) and sing acoustic rock and traditional numbers until the wee hours.

A good 21st-century recovery brunch awaits at Delikatesna Radnja. Creative types crowd the intimate riverside bistro. Snag a patio table and order veal steak with rosemary and basil, and red Vranac wine, such as the Vukoje Reserve.

I often escape time altogether with a jaunt into the eternal: a hike above town to the top of the 5,344-foot Trebevic Mountain. The adventure tourism operator Green Visions leads treks from the graffitied shell of the 1984 Winter Olympics bobsled track, through spruce forests with a view of Old Town and a panorama of peaks. From this position I feel small but invigorated by the promise of my adopted home’s next chapter.

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#84 Re: Svijet o Bosni

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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-37142487

Scots visit site of 1995 Srebrenica massacre

6 minutes ago
From the section Scotland

Image caption The massacre followed an assault on the town by Bosnian Serb forces

A delegation from Scotland is visiting the site of the worst atrocity on European soil since World War Two.

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is part of the group being led by the Very Rev Dr Lorna Hood, who chairs the Scottish charity Remembering Srebrenica.

They are meeting survivors from the town in Bosnia-Herzegovina where 8,000 mainly men and boys were killed.

The died after Bosnian Serb forces took over Srebrenica in 1995 during civil war in the Balkans.

Scotland formed close links with Srebrenica after scientists went there to help identify remains in mass graves. Later, some of them gave evidence at The Hague on the war crimes.
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Image caption Radovan Karadzic, who led the Bosnian Serb forces, was later convicted of genocide and war crimes

The charity Remembering Srebrenica uses the example of the massacre in an education programme which aims to raise awareness of the dangers posed by hatred, racism and intolerance.

Dr Hood, a former Moderator of the Church of Scotland, said: "The terrorist events of the last few months and years around the world should make us even more aware that hatred and discrimination if left unchallenged and unchecked can lead to terrible evil even amongst those who had previously been neighbours and friends.

"Many of the bereaved are still waiting for justice and for the remains of their loved ones to be found."

Former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic was later convicted at The Hague of genocide and war crimes in the 1992-95 Bosnian war, and sentenced to 40 years in jail.

In 2015, Ms Sturgeon met representatives of the Mothers of Srebrenica at a service in St Giles' Cathedral, Edinburgh, marking the 20th anniversary of the tragedy.
Image caption The Bosnian town lost most of a generation of young men

During her visit to the town, she will see the work of the Christine Witcutt Day Care Centre for children with Special Needs, which is dedicated to aid worker and teacher Christine Witcutt from Wishaw, who was killed by a sniper in Sarajevo.

Ms Sturgeon said: "It is a privilege to visit Srebrenica and learn first-hand how survivors and bereaved family members of the genocide have fought to preserve the memory of their loved ones."

She added: "The Scottish government will preserve the memory of the Srebrenica genocide - the worst atrocity on European soil since the Holocaust - through education, commemoration and close relations with Remembering Srebrenica Scotland.

"We too have a role and responsibility to ensure future generations are able to remember and learn from the failure to protect Srebrenica."
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#85 Re: Svijet o Bosni

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Is Bosnia Backsliding Into Conflict, or Making Progress Toward EU Membership?
Andrew MacDowall Monday, Nov. 21, 2016
BELGRADE, Serbia—It’s a strange time for Europe. In September, the European Union’s 28 member states formally accepted Bosnia and Herzegovina’s application for membership. Yet the next month, as rhetoric around local elections and a referendum in the Balkan state rose to a fever pitch, some analysts and politicians once again raised the prospect that the country’s very existence was under question.

Pessimistic insiders in Sarajevo have been warning for years that Bosnia was on the brink of collapse, while optimists hope that an EU-led reform program will finally transform the country’s economy, society and stultifying political scene. A middle scenario would see more of the same: systemic dysfunction, but with piecemeal progress in some areas, and backsliding in others when it suits the political elite. The reality is that EU accession is a long way off, and there are substantial geopolitical roadblocks ahead.

In a referendum on Sept. 25, voters in the Serb-dominated Republika Srpska—one of the two largely autonomous entities that make up Bosnia and Herzegovina—overwhelmingly voted in favor of keeping Jan. 9 as the national day, in defiance of the country’s Constitutional Court. This seemingly arcane issue is in fact loaded, not only because the date is the anniversary of the Republika Srpska’s controversial foundation in 1992, in the run-up to the Bosnian War, and is seen as discriminating against Bosnian Muslims, or Bosniaks, and Croats. The vote has also been perceived as a serious challenge to the country’s unitary state and the constitutional settlement that brought an end to the war through the 1995 Dayton Accords, even though, soon after the election, the Republika Srpska’s parliament backtracked on the national day law.

“The credibility of the Constitutional Court has been severely undermined, ushering in a phase of legal uncertainty,” says Adnan Huskic, a Sarajevo-based political analyst. “This also means that the very structure of the Dayton Agreement is beginning to collapse.”

Some see the referendum as a dress rehearsal for a plebiscite on the Republika Srpska’s independence that its president, Milorad Dodik, has repeatedly threatened to hold in 2018. Huskic says that Dodik may have boxed himself in and find it difficult not to call the independence referendum.

Yet most analysts say that Dodik’s goal is not full-fledged independence, but bolstering his support within the Republika Srpska and extracting concessions from the increasingly weary international community, which still has oversight of Bosnia. Republika Srpska is barely contiguous and would struggle as an independent country, and Dodik has more power as a broker within Bosnia than the ruler of a poor rogue state in the Balkans. Most importantly, the international community will not countenance independence.

“Dodik knows better than anyone that the referendum on secession is a red line—he simply can’t go there,” says one diplomat from an EU country. “Dodik has absolutely no sense that secession is a political option. He knows if he goes for it, he’s finished.”

The national day referendum was widely seen as a gambit before local elections just a week later—and a successful one, as Dodik’s Alliance of Independent Social Democrats regained its strong position in the region’s municipalities, after a period in which its hold on power had been tentative. A similar pattern unfolded in Bosnia’s other entity, the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which is dominated by Bosniaks and Croats.

One of the few things that most Bosnians of all ethnicities agree on is wanting to join the EU.
With the local elections, it seemed that nationalists once again triumphed by playing divide-and-rule. Serbs argue that Bosniak and Croat politicians play up the threat from the other two main ethnicities as much as their leaders do, creating a vicious cycle of attacking and defending national interests. This, in turn, allows politicians to perpetuate corruption and networks of patronage that have flourished over the past two and a half decades, while ignoring Bosnia’s huge economic and social problems.

“The local election results were marked by a return to the fore of the main nationalist parties, who have consolidated their positions and party structures,” says another EU diplomat. “Potential opposition coalitions remain either fragmented or discredited, or both. As the country looks toward the 2018 general elections, the jockeying for position will bring further manifestations of nationalist rhetoric.”

But Ivana Maric, a Sarajevo-based political analyst, says that the results revealed more nuances, and were warped by irregularities, fraud and media control, as well as what she calls “invented dangers” linked to ethnic tensions. “Nationalist parties received the highest number of votes, but the opposition parties and independent candidates also got a significant number of votes,” Maric says. “The voters have shown that they are not satisfied with the situation and that they want change.”

But with ethno-nationalist politicians of all stripes benefiting from the status quo, is that change likely to emerge? One of the few things that most Bosnians of all ethnicities agree on is wanting to join the EU. In recent years, Brussels has attempted to take a more active role in the country as the U.S. has turned its attention elsewhere. After years of unsuccessfully wrestling with the constitutional problems left by the Dayton Accords—including the fact that those who do not define themselves as Bosniak, Serb or Croat, such as Jews and Roma, cannot become president or take a range of other official positions—in late 2014, the EU launched a new reform agenda focusing on economic change. The emphasis is on improvements to the business climate and privatization, backed by the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank—providing the clout of the major financiers of the cash-strapped Bosnian government.

One EU aim is delivering growth and jobs that are the priority for ordinary Bosnians, but another is the longer-term goal of increasing the role of the private sector and reducing that of government-sector jobs, in order to weaken the structures of patronage that keep the current political elite in power. The hope is that this will then clear the path for political and constitutional reforms, including those required for Bosnia to become an EU member, such as opening the presidency to all ethnicities.

Views on the EU’s reform agenda within Bosnia are mixed. Maric says that EU reports of progress are met with laughter and raised eyebrows in the country. But the need for money for capital projects and general government spending, and a desire to complete unpopular reforms before the 2018 elections, will force politicians’ hands, the first diplomat argues.

“The implementation of the agenda will severely limit the influence of politics on the economy,” says Huskic—and Bosnia’s political parties “will not watch in silence as this unfolds. The real question is how far they are prepared to go to preserve the status quo.” Bosnia’s leaders have so far shown little enthusiasm for surrendering personal gain for the greater good.

The European Council’s acceptance of Bosnia’s EU membership application in September received little attention, given that it was just the beginning of a long process—and one that some think will never actually be concluded. Now the European Commission must assess Bosnia’s readiness for official membership candidate status, including by sending a lengthy “questionnaire” to Sarajevo with thousands of questions on matters of EU suitability.

Florian Bieber, a Balkan expert at the University of Graz, is not optimistic. “In five years’ time, I would expect to see Bosnia being very much like it is today,” he says, doubting the EU’s ability to press for progress on Bosnian reforms given many of the bloc’s own problems today. “I would instead consider the long-term impact, once the EU crisis abates and accession becomes more realistic again.”

But waiting for the EU’s succession of crises to abate may be a rather long game for fragile Bosnia to play.

Andrew MacDowall is a Belgrade-based correspondent and analyst focusing on Central and Eastern Europe. He has lived and worked in the region since 2006 and has written for publications including the Financial Times, Guardian, Politico Europe, Business New Europe and Christian Science Monitor.

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