PlayStation 5 - all about

Hardware, software, mobiteli, programiranje, internet...

Moderator: Benq

Post Reply
User avatar
arnes_king
Posts: 7655
Joined: 01/03/2011 00:43
Location: Bosna

#701 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king »

NecuVise wrote: 16/06/2020 11:44
un1ted wrote: 16/06/2020 10:11
NecuVise wrote: 16/06/2020 10:03 499 nije sa profitom
Kako nije profit, ako je 450$ bazna cijena izrade konzole?
Prvo što to nije potvrđeno, drugo i da jest, BOM je samo jedna od stvari koja utiče na cijenu konzola, ima tu još manufacturing, packaging, distribution, zarada retailera. Nema tu profita ni sa 450 BOM-om.
Da, to je cisto cijena koliko kosta u proizvodnji a koliko je tu bilo troska razvoja, marketinga itd... nabere se tu daleko vise. Ali eto, koliko znam oni na svakoj generaciju prvih par godina prodaju uz gubitak samo da dobiju sto vise korisnika i glavni profit je na pretplatama i igrama.
User avatar
Dope_Man
Posts: 8017
Joined: 03/06/2016 16:31

#702 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by Dope_Man »

un1ted wrote: 16/06/2020 10:11
NecuVise wrote: 16/06/2020 10:03 499 nije sa profitom
Kako nije profit, ako je 450$ bazna cijena izrade konzole?
BOM je samo cijena komponenti. Ne ukljucuje finalno sastavljanje, transport, profit preprodavaca, poreze koji idu na to itd.. Dakle ako je u prodavnici 500, oduzmi porez u datoj drzavi, nekih 15-20% koliko trgovac gleda da zaradi, troskove distribucije.. I dobijes sicu koju ce dobiti Sony za samu konzolu, tj. bice sigurno na dobrom gubitku na svakoj konzoli.

Ali... Tu je godisnja pretplata na PS+ koju ce imati vecina primjeraka za narednih 5-6 godina. Zatim postotak od prodaje svake igre koji je prilicno znacajan, zatim prodaja periferije (gamepad, slusalice i ostale fore) itd.. I tako Sony vraca gubitke na prodaji same konzole i ostvaruje profit.

Naravno, vremenom ce i BOM padati, sto znaci da ce imati manji gubitak po konzoli.
User avatar
ferratilis
Posts: 8296
Joined: 25/11/2013 16:48

#704 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by ferratilis »

“Gran Turismo 7 is going to benefit from almost every single technological enhancement that we have in PlayStation 5,” says Rutter. “The loading times will be next to nothing compared to what they have been in the past. Sitting in the cockpit, the 3D audio allows you to hear the thunderous roar of a Ferrari behind you or in front of you, and you can recognise the difference between that and the engine noise of a Maserati. Driving the car using the DualSense controller, you’ll have a different feeling in your hands from the smooth undulating tarmac of a racetrack, compared to the gritty sensation on a gravel track. Pressing a soft accelerator will feel very different than pressing on a stiff brake pedal or gear paddle.”
https://www.theguardian.com/games/2020/ ... ion-5-sony
User avatar
Herr Flick
Posts: 9039
Joined: 02/04/2012 13:00

#705 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by Herr Flick »

Ja se ne zanosim previse, da ce biti bolje hoce itekako, ipak 7 godina razlike u tehnologiji je puno, tek za neke 3 godine ili izlaskom neke ps5 pro konzole ja očekujem veliki pomak u grafici i gameplayu u igrama :)
febo_acm
Posts: 10317
Joined: 10/02/2009 17:00
Location: SARAJEVO

#706 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by febo_acm »

Jedva cekam preorder :lol:
User avatar
HardCore
Posts: 2461
Joined: 17/05/2011 21:46

#707 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by HardCore »

Pripremite 2 milje hahah
Mustang1
Posts: 29564
Joined: 29/12/2010 17:31

#708 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by Mustang1 »

Evo ja pripremio hahah
User avatar
arnes_king
Posts: 7655
Joined: 01/03/2011 00:43
Location: Bosna

#709 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king »

“Gran Turismo 7 is going to benefit from almost every single technological enhancement that we have in PlayStation 5,” says Rutter. “The loading times will be next to nothing compared to what they have been in the past. Sitting in the cockpit, the 3D audio allows you to hear the thunderous roar of a Ferrari behind you or in front of you, and you can recognise the difference between that and the engine noise of a Maserati. Driving the car using the DualSense controller, you’ll have a different feeling in your hands from the smooth undulating tarmac of a racetrack, compared to the gritty sensation on a gravel track. Pressing a soft accelerator will feel very different than pressing on a stiff brake pedal or gear paddle.”


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2020/ ... ion-5-sony
User avatar
TMovac
Posts: 1317
Joined: 07/03/2010 00:39

#710 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by TMovac »

Image

naišao sam na ovo. Ne znam da li je istina, ali bila bi bas fora. Doduše ako i bude istina, sumnjam da će se moći kod nas naručiti.
User avatar
arnes_king
Posts: 7655
Joined: 01/03/2011 00:43
Location: Bosna

#711 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king »

TMovac wrote: 17/06/2020 11:08 Image

naišao sam na ovo. Ne znam da li je istina, ali bila bi bas fora. Doduše ako i bude istina, sumnjam da će se moći kod nas naručiti.
Ne znam da li je to istina ali onaj lik sto radi za PS GUI kaze da ce biti dostupno opet mnogo custom modela, kao sto je i do sad bilo vjerovatno u bundle sa igrom nekom.

EDIT: A tu i spominju njega tek sam vidio, samo sto se vjerovatno odnosi na to da ce biti raznih verzija, ne vjerujem da ce se moci nesto pojedinacno mijenjati na konzoli. Vjerovatno ce i sam sistem imati vise mogucnosti modifikovanja.
User avatar
ferratilis
Posts: 8296
Joined: 25/11/2013 16:48

#712 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by ferratilis »

obje konzole u horizontalnom polozaju

Image
User avatar
arnes_king
Posts: 7655
Joined: 01/03/2011 00:43
Location: Bosna

#713 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king »

ferratilis wrote: 17/06/2020 15:03 obje konzole u horizontalnom polozaju

Image
Digital only mi bolje izgleda vertikalno dok ova standardna sa BD izgleda bolje horizontalno :) Svakako cu najvjerovatnije sa BD i horizontalno poloziti kao i svaku do sad.
Mustang1
Posts: 29564
Joined: 29/12/2010 17:31

#714 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by Mustang1 »

Vidjelo se odmah ima na taj neki krug kao postolje i moze ze prebaciti da stoji kako zelis.
febo_acm
Posts: 10317
Joined: 10/02/2009 17:00
Location: SARAJEVO

#715 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by febo_acm »

Ja sam bacio na papir sve i jedno 1300-1400 KM bih dao za peorder, nadam se da nece biti preko, ali je realno da bude i oko 1200 KM.

To ce mi najsladje potrosene pare u zadnjih 6-7 godina, jos kad nabacim qled 55" 2020 sa 2.1 hdmi...
User avatar
ferratilis
Posts: 8296
Joined: 25/11/2013 16:48

#716 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by ferratilis »

Da li je kod nas uopce moguc preorder? I ja sam voljan toliko platiti, ciljam na digital verziju jer sve PS4 igre koje imam su na accountu i uvijek kupujem digitalne verzije. Za dizajn me bad briga, da budem iskren, konzola je da se igra ne da se gleda :D
febo_acm
Posts: 10317
Joined: 10/02/2009 17:00
Location: SARAJEVO

#717 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by febo_acm »

ferratilis wrote: 17/06/2020 17:21 Da li je kod nas uopce moguc preorder? I ja sam voljan toliko platiti, ciljam na digital verziju jer sve PS4 igre koje imam su na accountu i uvijek kupujem digitalne verzije. Za dizajn me bad briga, da budem iskren, konzola je da se igra ne da se gleda :D
Imamo ovlastenog uvoznika, trebalo bi da ima. Znat cemo uskoro :D
User avatar
arnes_king
Posts: 7655
Joined: 01/03/2011 00:43
Location: Bosna

#718 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king »

febo_acm wrote: 17/06/2020 17:17 Ja sam bacio na papir sve i jedno 1300-1400 KM bih dao za peorder, nadam se da nece biti preko, ali je realno da bude i oko 1200 KM.

To ce mi najsladje potrosene pare u zadnjih 6-7 godina, jos kad nabacim qled 55" 2020 sa 2.1 hdmi...
Ma ne bi trebalo biti vise od 1200KM.

Ja poceo skupljati u kasu od okobra prosle godine, cim je sony zvanicno najavio. Ubacivao dnevno po 2-3KM, nekad vise nekad manje, uglavnom se skupilo vec 900KM a i dalje ubacujem :D

Dodatno imam svoj pro sa 2 kontrolera i pokojom digitalnom igrom pa dok i to prodam ocekujem da cu imati odmah ciste pare za ps5 + dodatni ds5 + pokoja igra :thumbup:

Na ovaj nacin ne moram platu ni dirati, niti na rate uzimati kao sto kazes bit ce bas slatko potrosene :bih:

TV sam kupio u novembru 2018, 58" 4K, tako da on moze posluziti narednih nekoliko godina.
febo_acm
Posts: 10317
Joined: 10/02/2009 17:00
Location: SARAJEVO

#719 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by febo_acm »

Ja sam na oko 600 km + imam nov ps4... znaci tu je to negdje :D ps4 nek bude 300km, jos 2-3 stoje i to je to :D

Svakako sam zamislio igrati u pocetku na 2k 144 Hz monitoru(120 Hz podrsava ps5), a tv ce mozda krajem godine, a mozda i pocetkom iduce. TV sam odgodio jer mora biti hdmi 2.1 zbog 4k i 120 Hz.
User avatar
arnes_king
Posts: 7655
Joined: 01/03/2011 00:43
Location: Bosna

#720 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king »

Evo sony kaze da zavisi od developera hoce li igre koje imate na ps4 dobiti free upgrade na ps5 verziju ili ne. Znaci isti pristup kao i ms, samo sto ms reklamira smart delivery kao nesto posebno sto oni nude a i kod njih isti sistem, ovisi od developera.

https://twistedvoxel.com/sony-ps4-ps5-upgrade/

User avatar
_coRey_
Posts: 709
Joined: 30/12/2013 10:36

#721 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by _coRey_ »

koliko znam MS je obecao samo za svoje naslove da imaju 100% Smart delivery, ostali moraju odobriti

naravno zamotano u PR izjavu da zvuci ljepše mnogi su skontali da vazi za svaki naslov i pomijesali to sa backwards compatibility, isto kao sto Sony na onom showcase eventu napisa haman za svaki naslov exclusively on PS5 ili built for PS5 a dosta naslova je cross-platform

gaming industrija i PR obmana, nerazdvojni duo :D
User avatar
arnes_king
Posts: 7655
Joined: 01/03/2011 00:43
Location: Bosna

#722 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king »

User avatar
Herr Flick
Posts: 9039
Joined: 02/04/2012 13:00

#723 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by Herr Flick »

soha96
Posts: 2379
Joined: 13/01/2015 23:30

#724 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by soha96 »

Spremiti 2500 za oktobar/novembar za ps5 i neki dobar tv :izet:
User avatar
REDDEVILS
Posts: 4744
Joined: 21/02/2011 12:56

#725 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by REDDEVILS »

June 18 📆
EA PLAY LIVE 🔴
Next Level #FIFA21 👀
4 PM PST | 12 AM UK
https://www.ea.com/ea-play-live
Post Reply