Sirija

[KUZNETSOV]

koliko pricaju da se SAA raspada a da se FSA junacki bori reko bi covjek da ratuju dvije rase a ne sirijci izmedju sebe

[Ali Kemal]

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A tek fasisticko-kozojebski primitivizam kad salje privatne poruke

Sent: 05/11/2015 20:41
From: Opetja033
Recipient: Ali Kemal
Picko salonska, mami se tako obracaj. Jebem ti kompletnu familiju kmetovsku.

[bole1st]

Breaking! Syrian Army and Hezbollah reenter the Idlib Governorate and capture the strategic town of Kafr Haddad:

Jel ima neko spisak strateski vaznih gradova u Siriji?

Da nama sa jeftinijim ulaznicama ne poturaju bas svako selo kao strateski vazan grad.

[bole1st]

Pola sata dan dva pet i nije nesto vazno. Vidis da se bore za gomilu kamenja i pijeska, samo budala bi zivot za to dala.

Za ideale ginu budale.

Morek nije samo gomila kamenja i pijeska. Nalazi sjeverno od Hame na ključnoj cesti (M5) koja povezuje sjever i jug zemlje. Ta cesta je od velike važnosti za kontrolu zapadnog dijela zemlje.

Ne bih da te razocaram, ali ako nisam krivo procitao kartu, ta cesta nije blokirana ovim padom Moreka, niti ce biti odblokirana ako SAA vrati Morek.

[arman1]

Kad rasprava pođe ovim tokom u sebi pošaljem sve diskutante u neku stvar.

[RepublikanskaGarda]

ASSAD SUNNI SOLDIERS

DAMASCUS — The assassins struck the one place they knew Mohammed Ghassan al-Alaby would brave the death threats to visit: his beloved cousin’s grave.

Mohammed and his brothers rarely left the alleys of Damascus’s Old City after al-Nusra Front, an al Qaeda affiliate, claimed responsibility for the murder of their cousin Ihab in the summer of 2012 and swore to kill them, too. The men of the Alaby family stood accused of betraying their sect: They are Sunni Muslims who had refused to join the anti-government uprising and instead were serving as guardsmen in a pro-government neighborhood watch group.

Ever since Ihab had been gunned down in a drive-by shooting, the Alaby brothers had kept a low profile — except for weekly visits to his grave in Bab al-Saghir cemetery, just south of the Old City’s walls.

On the day of the attack, March 8, 2013, Mohammed and his two brothers had just bowed their heads and recited the opening verse of the Quran, when an explosion blasted from the head of the grave. Mohammed fell forward onto the grave just as another bomb went off. His brothers believe he died instantly, his body absorbing the force of the second blast and sparing them.

The Alaby family hails from the Syrian civil war’s least understood demographic: fence-sitting Sunnis who eschewed the uprising but aren’t entirely trusted by the government. They’re trapped between religious extremists and a government that often treats them as second-class citizens. The Alaby brothers consider themselves defenders not of Bashar al-Assad’s government but rather of a neighborhood and a Damascene way of life, a society that welcomes anyone — secular, atheist, or a member of any faith. But for members of the predominantly Sunni armed opposition, they are traitors — co-religionists who have taken up arms to defend the Alawite-dominated government.

“We’ve never disturbed anybody,” said Mohammed’s brother Assad, 40, who is now guardian of his brother’s children and chief of the guard unit that operates out of his home. “We are only protecting our area.”

But despite their dire straits, Sunnis like the Alaby family might hold the key to Syria’s future. Sunnis made up about three-quarters of the pre-war population, and the country’s economy still revolves around a wealthy Sunni merchant class. Sunni industrialists in Aleppo, the country’s manufacturing base, have kept factories operating despite a degrading battle over the divided city, while displaced Sunni entrepreneurs on the coast have opened new business, often creating jobs for other displaced Syrians. Some Sunni business owners have fled or thrown their support behind the rebellion, but many rich Sunni industrialists serve as pillars of the regime. If they mobilize en masse, they could tilt the outcome of the war, and in its aftermath their buy-in will be a necessary building block of any sustainable new government.

In Syria’s conscript military, Sunnis traditionally made up a large number of lower-ranking soldiers, in proportion to their share of the general population, according to analysts who study the Syrian armed forces. Even today, rebel videos showing captured government soldiers reciting their names and hometowns almost always include Sunni conscripts, for example. Aron Lund, editor of the Syria in Crisis blog at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said the government still relies on Sunnis to fill its fighting ranks.

“There are Sunni Muslim Syrians fighting on the front line for Assad even today, even though many may be conscripts or fight simply for a living wage,” Lund said. “The regime was really bleeding Sunni support in 2011 to 2013, but then it seemed to stabilize to some degree.”

The regime has always carefully cultivated support across sects, Lund said, filling the security services with loyalists of every religion and from major tribes. After a wave of defections in the early stages of the civil war, many Sunnis stayed on to play prominent roles, including the defense minister. However, the continued presence of high-ranking Sunnis in the military could be little more than window dressing. Historically, Lund said, “the over-representation of Alawites was tangible, and there was a tendency to favor Sunnis for publicly visible posts, like minister of defense or minister of interior, while the unseen deep security state remained mostly Alawite-run.”

Perhaps motivated by fear or simply for lack of a better alternative, many Sunnis remain on the government’s side. But for now, they’re often a hunted class of citizens. Many Sunnis like the Alaby brothers living in government-controlled Damascus describe living in a Catch-22: They risk their lives fighting to keep the extremists from al Qaeda and the Islamic State, also known as ISIS, out of their neighborhoods — but the government they’re defending considers them potential fifth columnists, their loyalty always subject to question.

“Here in the Old City, everybody knows me, and I’d say they trust me 70 percent. Outside, I’m just another Sunni,” said one secular Sunni, whose entire family refuses to leave the Old City for fear of arbitrary detention at a checkpoint. “We have no future under this regime, but if ISIS comes, it will be worse.”

The Alaby family went a step further than other Sunnis in their neighborhood, many of whom sat out the rebellion. When Damascus came under sustained assault in 2012 and anti-government militants infiltrated even the heart of the capital, the brothers purchased guns and organized a watch group.

Soon men began calling the family’s home with death threats. They called the Alaby brothers shabiha, a derogatory nickname for pro-regime militiamen. In June 2012, they killed Ihab. The following spring, nearly a year later, Mohammed’s mother received a call. “We have prepared a special Mother’s Day present for you,” a voice said. On March 8, 2013, just a week after the call, her son was killed.

In the two-and-a-half years since, Mohammed’s surviving family members have continued to patrol their neighborhood. Their neighborhood watch is now part of the National Defense Forces, a network of local militias that operate in the areas where they’re from and are in part trained and funded by Iran. The Alaby family members don’t leave the Old City: They are committed to protecting their neighborhood, not to fighting the government’s war on other fronts. And they’re convinced that al-Nusra Front spies track their movements; that’s how they were tracked to the cemetery for the attack, they said, and that’s why they continue to receive threats.

“These people, you can’t discuss with them,” Ahmed al-Alaby said of his enemies. “They will kill us directly. Our names are everywhere. We don’t fear for our own lives, but we are afraid for our children.”

They’re careful to refer to the current president of Syria as “sweet,” but say they are motivated by parochial neighborhood interests rather than a presidential agenda. They work at their business all day and with the National Defense Forces at night. The family metalworking factory in the suburb of Mleha produced pots, pans, and other metal housewares; since fighting broke out around the capital, the brothers say it has been too dangerous to reach. Now the three surviving brothers work on a much smaller scale out of their home in the Old City, producing a line of kettles and pots.

On a typical weekend afternoon, Assad, the eldest surviving brother, played a video game on his phone and smoked in the dark in his home office while waiting for one of the daily electricity cuts to end. The entire extended family, 23 members strong, has crammed into a klix apartment — unable since 2011, the first year of the war, to return to their homes in the contested suburbs of Damascus. One day, they hope they’ll move back to their spacious homes outside the city.

The main room holds a kitchen with floor space for the family to sleep. On the right is the local militia office: clipped high on the wall — and safely out of reach of the children — are seven AK-47s. There are also portraits of Ihab and Mohammed, as well as former President Hafez al-Assad, though not of his son. A sophisticated radio system sits on Assad’s desk. Tucked beside it are four water pipes to smoke the long night-watch hours away.

“Many have been wounded by this war, one way or another,” Ahmed said, tugging at his undershirt to show the shrapnel scars on his chest from the graveside attack. Comfort, he believes, will come only from God.

One of their sisters immigrated to France before the war. The brothers have debated about whether to join her, but they hate the idea of abandoning their home and becoming refugees in a distant land. “There is no future for our kids here,” Ahmed, 29, said gloomily. “The only reason we think of leaving is for them. Life is hard. We are so many. It’s very expensive.”

Mohammed’s 5-year-old son wandered into the office and climbed into his uncle’s lap. Assad pulled a comb from beside his walkie-talkie and rifle, and straightened the boy’s hair.

“Where’s your father?” he asked.

“He was killed,” his nephew answered softly, smiling.

“Who killed him?”

“The free army,” said the boy, conflating the nationalist rebel group called the Free Syrian Army with the Islamist jihadis in al-Nusra Front who claimed responsibility for killing his father.

“Where is he now?”

“Paradise.”

“Now go play,” said his uncle, letting the boy slide off his lap.

Mohammed is now buried with his cousin in the plot where he was killed at Bab al-Saghir cemetery. Within the sometimes claustrophobic confines of the Old City, coexistence continues, but the war has deepened sectarian identities. The Alaby brothers have to sneak into the cemetery for their occasional visits, telling no one where they’re going.

Their world grows narrower every day, with fear and uncertainty the only constants of their lives, said Assad, the weary paterfamilias.

“Every day we leave our homes,” Assad said, “we don’t know if we will die on the way or never come back.”

[cbrt]

Jedan od uništenih tenkova u Moreku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOWGd8I ... e=youtu.be

[Ironmen]

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A tek fasisticko-kozojebski primitivizam kad salje privatne poruke

Sent: 05/11/2015 20:41
From: Opetja033
Recipient: Ali Kemal
Picko salonska, mami se tako obracaj. Jebem ti kompletnu familiju kmetovsku.

Sta drugo ocekivati od covjeka koji nezna osnovne matematicke operacije kocijas i sovinista najbolje ignoritati.

[Kareem Abdul]

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A tek fasisticko-kozojebski primitivizam kad salje privatne poruke

Sent: 05/11/2015 20:41
From: Opetja033
Recipient: Ali Kemal
Picko salonska, mami se tako obracaj. Jebem ti kompletnu familiju kmetovsku.

Kakav lik!!!

Sad si najebao od administracije. Oni takve ko ti baniraju automatski inače im opetja zatrpa inbox kmečanjem zbog kršenja forumske privatnosti.
Točnije objavljivana pp-a.

Nije mu prvi put da ovo radi.

[Ironmen]

Jedan od uništenih tenkova u Moreku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOWGd8I ... e=youtu.be

Stvarno si se navuko na unistavanje tenkova i ostalih mobilizovanih srestava da si postao sigurno ovisnik a znamo kako se ovisnost lijeci u nekoj komuni pa predlozio bi ti da posjetis istu i strucno misljenje nekog psihijatra jer skoro 24 sata si prisutan ovde i svaki dan izbacujes jedno te isto.

[Ironmen]

OpetJA je nazivao vise puta ljude ustasama i cetnicima kasnije se pravdao da nazivati nekog ustasom nije krsenje pravila foruma svaki dan vrijedja kocijaski clanove foruma i opet je tu bez sankcija ali nema veze meni je bitnije da slabo ko pusi njegovu propagandu terorizma pogotovo clanovi foruma iz BiH da su jos vecina sdrave pameti i svijesti.

A ovo za PP je samo stvar njegovog odgoja i kulture psovati nekome majku je dno dna.

[cbrt]

Režimski vojnici izvlače mrtve i ranjene sa Jub Al Ahmara


Ova dvojica režimskih vojnika su opkoljena i zarobljena na istom mestu

[Arteta]

Kad rasprava pođe ovim tokom u sebi pošaljem sve diskutante u neku stvar.

[Challenger__]

Militanti "Islamske države", krvnici koji su svojim zločinima nadmašili svoje srednjovjekovne učitelje i Španjolsku inkviziciju zajedno, projekt je koji se "navodno oteo nadzoru", a nastao je u okrilju antisirijske koalicije koju su stvorile zemlje NATO saveza, zaljevske monarhije i Turska. Nekoliko mjeseci prije nego će i službeno nastati terorističke skupina ISIL američka vlada je obaviještena od strane Vojno-obavještajne agencije (Defense Intelligence Agency/DIA) o jačanju takfirističke skupine i neposrednom proglašenju "kalifata" u Iraku i Siriji. Tadašnja izvješća američkog Ministarstva obrane i State Departmenta govore da je Washington bio svjestan da će golema pošiljke oružja iz libijskog grada Benghazija završiti u rukama terorista koji se bore protiv legitimne vlade sirijskog predsjednika Bashara Al-Assada i upozoravala su na rastuću opasnosti od onoga što je danas cijeli svijet poznaje kao ISIL ili "Islamsku državu". Barack Obama je znao da stvara ISIL koji će kasnije uspostaviti kalifat i sada je jasno zašto. Večernji list prenosi da je Hrvatska pregovarala s otmičarima Tomislava Salopeka i da je u pregovorima sudjelovao i Katar, ali da su pregovori prekinuti. Zanimljivo je da se upravo u vrijeme dok je naš nesretni Tomislav bio u zatočeništvu takfirističkih fanatika Hrvatskom prešetavao jedan od najodgovornijih ljudi za nastanak "Islamske države", bivši katarski emir, šeik Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani. Posjetio je Rijeku, Zadar, a u Šibeniku se susreo s hrvatskom predsjednicom Kolindom Grabar-Kitarović. Čudno, ali nitko se nije usudio napisati jednu jedinu riječ o bivšem katarskom emiru, ocu aktualnog vladara Katara koji je sinu tron predao u lipnju 2013. godine, te njegovoj ulozi u financiranju i naoružavanju islamističkih ekstremista u Siriji koji će zajedno s onima iz Iraka kasnije proglasiti terorističku tvorevinu poznatu kao "Islamska država". Ako je itko mogao učiniti nešto, onda je to bio bivši katarski emir i njegova poznanstva u redovima "kalifata", a ne ministri i visoki sigurnosni dužnosnici Egipta, gdje je potpuno nepotrebno putovala hrvatska ministrica vanjskih poslova Vesna Pusić. Žalosno, ali se čini da smo pravog čovjeka za rješenje ove talačke krize imali u Hrvatskoj. Za kraj još jedan podatak. Možda se netko sjeća, možda i ne, ali snimku na kojoj se vide maskirani terorist i Tomislav Salopek koji čita uvjete za njegovo oslobađanje je objavila agencija SITE. Nevažan podatak? Ne baš. Za većinu talaca koje je prva pokazala ova agencija se kasnije ispostavilo da su bili ubijeni puno ranije od datuma službene objave smrti, neki su bili mrtvi već u trenutku čitanja poruke, a sve snimke obiluju proturječjima i snimane su u studiju ili na nekoj tajnoj lokaciji koja nema veze sa mjestom koje se prikazuje na uratku.

....

Vlado Bastaj

Od te odvratne nakaze (Al Thanija) je odvratnija samo ljigava snishodljivost zapadnih političkih sturktura. Pohlepan odnos prema novcu i strah od stvarnog vlasnika Katara (Jacoba R.) ih čini pi*kicama prvog ranga.

[Kikibombona]

Kad rasprava pođe ovim tokom u sebi pošaljem sve diskutante u neku stvar.

[sunceKOtepsija]

Nema mu pomoci, svi komentari su mu takvi.

A tek fasisticko-kozojebski primitivizam kad salje privatne poruke

Sent: 05/11/2015 20:41
From: Opetja033
Recipient: Ali Kemal
Picko salonska, mami se tako obracaj. Jebem ti kompletnu familiju kmetovsku.

Kakav lik!!!

Sad si najebao od administracije. Oni takve ko ti baniraju automatski inače im opetja zatrpa inbox kmečanjem zbog kršenja forumske privatnosti.
Točnije objavljivana pp-a.

Nije mu prvi put da ovo radi.

[bvcx]

Evo im simbol pa ti vidi jesi li ili nisu fašisti

Liči pomalo na NATO znak:

[Kikibombona]

Napredak SDF/YPG



Trenutno se vode zestoke borbe oko grada Al-Hawl koji je prvi veliki cilj ove ofanzive.

[cbrt]

Mrtvi asadovci Ghamam
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTKHSi3UcAAFpz1.jpg

Mrtvi asadovci Atshan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoRtNCf ... e=youtu.be

[Co0l]

Da zakljucimo-svjedocimo novoj genijalnoj taktici koja se ogleda u tome da neprijatelju dopustis da te rastavi na proste faktore i zauzme grad da bi Rusi mogli da ih bombarduju dok slave.

[arman1]

Mrtvi asadovci Ghamam
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTKHSi3UcAAFpz1.jpg

Mrtvi asadovci Atshan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoRtNCf ... e=youtu.be

Ti imaš zbilja problema. Iz tvojih postova bi se reklo da je na slikama bar po 50 tijela. Malo kontam i EUREKA, ti se pališ na mrtva tijela. To ti dođe ko fetiš.

[insomnia78]

Da zakljucimo-svjedocimo novoj genijalnoj taktici koja se ogleda u tome da neprijatelju dopustis da te rastavi na proste faktore i zauzme grad da bi Rusi mogli da ih bombarduju dok slave.

Al hajd' to, to je jos i za povjerovati nego obicno u istom postu ide i to kako su ovi imali vrhunske obavjestajne podatke a i nisu mogli sami smisliti i izvesti tako brilijantnu akciju (to valjda da se "osiguraju" ono ko kad odigras 1x) nego je ista morala biti smisljena u mracnim podrumima Pentagona

Pa de se dogovorite, mislim ne morate al bi ljepse izgledalo na "papiru", da li ih je SAA namamila u trapulu oli su ovi dobivsi podatke od Obame i plan napada od onog Golani pukovnika uspjeli zauzeti grad

PS: ne znam samo sta ima brilijantno i kakvi to, aman podatci trebaju za zaletjeti kamion pun eksploziva na kontrolni punkt

[Challenger__]

- ako se ne varam, glava zarobljenog sirijskog oficira 18+

Graphic +18: Meet the "moderate" Ahrar showing the head of an #SAA officer in a basket #Syria.

E. Magnier

[Kaligula I]

Jasno je to kao dan.

Samo meni nije jasno kako je moguce da SAA i sada, kada konacno imaju i "oci u zraku", kako je moguce da im drekavci dodju i uzmu Morek recimo. Koliko citam, u pola sata usli u grad i zauzeli ga.

Gdje su njihovi obavjestajci, gdje je SAA (kontra)obavjestajna sluzba, do kada ce se vise blamirati takvim porazima koji nikome nisu shvatljivi. Pa ne moze ti neko uzeti grad, koji si osvajao mjesec dana, za pola sata. Gdje su im transeji, bunkeri, domobranske jedinice koje pokrivaju teren vatrenom moci, pa valjda imaju oruzja ako nista nemaju. Stavi jebeni PM na svako 100 metara linije, utvrdi ga vrecama, uvali DSHK svako 300 metara, rokaj po horizontu i izdrzaces bar dva tri dana.

Cuj za pola sata izgube grad.

...nije nemoguća ni izdaja, jer se šuška o nesnošljivosti između sirijskih i iranskih komandanata...moguće je da su suniti okrenuli leđa iransko-šiitskim generalima...samo izdaja moze uzrokovat sramotno beskrvni otpor neprijatelju i neracionalne gubitke na bojnom polju...

[zrakomlat]

Mrtvi asadovci Ghamam
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTKHSi3UcAAFpz1.jpg

Mrtvi asadovci Atshan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoRtNCf ... e=youtu.be

Ti imaš zbilja problema. Iz tvojih postova bi se reklo da je na slikama bar po 50 tijela. Malo kontam i EUREKA, ti se pališ na mrtva tijela. To ti dođe ko fetiš.

uvijek je osvježenje vidjeti pasadove kerove mrtve i sa ustima punim prašine i pijeska. deratizacija Prasadovih fašista.

De ba kralju, ne kaki. Kakva ti je ovo prva rečenica, nema smisla nimalo ovo.