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#68651 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:17
by sumirprimus
janje_ wrote: 24/03/2022 10:12

austrijski ORF javlja jutros da su orci zauzeli Izjum.. :sad:
oni svi prenose info ruskog mod, sto znaci u prevodu da ipak sacekamo neku potvrdu
Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
The Russian Ministry of Defense claimed this morning to have captured Izyum. It's not the first time such a claim is made by pro-Russian sources so I would take this with pinch of salt (as you should with any Russian claim).

#68652 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:18
by Gandalf
apsidejzi wrote: 24/03/2022 08:02
sumirprimus wrote: 24/03/2022 07:56 kaze yeeap definitivno landing ship hehe :izet:
get some get some e
Ovo je haman transportni brod koji sluzi za prevos vojnika i opreme (tenkova, oklopnih vozila i sl). Moze prevoziti i gorivo po potrebi. Od 2 svj. rata, SSSR je izgradio 14 ovakvih brodova ali ih je vecina penzionisana. Ostala su samo dva: Orsk i Saratov koji su takodjer penzionisali ali su bili u upotrebi i dalje. Prevozili su opremu u Siriju i ostale ruske lokalne ratove. Ovo je stari brod koji je davno otpisan ali koji je i dalje imao upotrebnu vrijednost. Sad imaju samo jos jednog ovakvog :D

RUsi su totalno usrali logistiku u ovom ratu a Ukrajinci su iskoristili ovu njihovu slabost maksimalno.
rusi su pogrešno napisali ime na svom brodu "Ork"
Uvalili su greškom slovo S pa ispade Orsk :oops:
Kakva greška, lepi brodovi lepo gore :lol:

#68653 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:20
by agent_zero
Hajvan wrote: 24/03/2022 00:44 SCH propagandista na temi mloooogo, chak i od forumasha od kojih se tomu nisam nadao :lol:
Na muci se poznaju junaci...

#68654 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:21
by agent_zero
Novosti wrote: 24/03/2022 01:17 Kastuś Kalinoŭski Battalion

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kastu%C ... _Battalion

Pro-ukrajinski Bjelorusi
Slava im!

#68655 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:22
by pijo_zoljo
agent_zero wrote: 24/03/2022 10:20
Hajvan wrote: 24/03/2022 00:44 SCH propagandista na temi mloooogo, chak i od forumasha od kojih se tomu nisam nadao :lol:
Na muci se poznaju junaci...
NA MUCI SE POZNAJU JAUCI
:mrgreen:

#68656 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:23
by sumirprimus

po zvuku detonacij,a brodovi su bili sve osim prazni kakav pogodak kakva meta , nirvana. :izet:
1,35 :bih:

ma znam nije to od municije i mtsa. to je zvuk kranova dok se savijaju od toplote i nafta u rezervoarima krcka..
zeljezoooo staro zeljezooooo ves masine, ruski brodoviii

#68657 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:26
by sumirprimus


jel bilo, jos starog zeljeza, od ponedeljka dolazi novo i jos modernije staro zeljezo hehe
10ta brdska im uzima redovnu mjeru..

#68658 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:27
by toska

#68659 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:29
by zigzag
sumirprimus wrote: 24/03/2022 10:26
jel bilo, jos starog zeljeza, od ponedeljka dolazi novo i jos modernije staro zeljezo hehe
10ta brdska im uzima redovnu mjeru..
Deseta brdska viteška brigada.

#68660 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:30
by sumirprimus
Багатокітний батько
@vlad_sord
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10m
gugl translate debe, on je gore u ovom sjeveroistocnom dijelu nek ice ga i prepoznati sa klipova onih sprzenih konvoja...

means sho on a situation. for yesterday burned two tanks, one right in the garden. The civilians were evacuated just the day before yesterday, because for several days and nights in a row the Katsaps had been specially raiding the villages and us with everything they could.

tonight my brother and I did a special operation and raided the Javelins, tell me how to thank in the next century - the American queen or taxpayers? 🖤

#68661 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:30
by zigzag
toska wrote: 24/03/2022 10:27
Svaka čast murate. Mada iz bez njega sateliti sve prate.

#68662 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:33
by lajkujMe



Odkud Ukrajinci u Chernobylskoj regiji? Zar to nije izgubljeno drugog dana rata :?

#68663 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:35
by pici
sumirprimus wrote: 24/03/2022 10:26

jel bilo, jos starog zeljeza, od ponedeljka dolazi novo i jos modernije staro zeljezo hehe
10ta brdska im uzima redovnu mjeru..
ova 10 brdska jurisna izgleda bas zajebiti... nakupili zeljeza za zeljezaru zenica mega tone, ako nista cijene zeljeza ce grohnut.


#68664 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:37
by sumirprimus

ima i ovaj deba iz 93ce hehe i oni su stalno aktivni, ko neki prvi bataljon iste brigade, rominjaju okolo i nalijecu naruske konvoje i samo rkojau evo ga pd prije nek idan zahvaljuje se amerima i javelinima :lol:

#68665 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:38
by SanskiBiser
drndalo wrote: 24/03/2022 09:35
namiami wrote: 24/03/2022 09:33

Prijavljen, čitaj malo, ne sheruj lazne informacije

Ma prijavljuj. Ako nista zaista se trudim da ne ponavljam u nedogled snimke sa par strana prije. Siriju nisam pratio, pa me valjda treba streljati zbog toga.

Da, mozda sam mogao prvo citati komentare ispod, ali sam poletio... Zadovoljan/zadovoljna....?
Znas kako to krene, lik na telegramu stavi da trola (najcesce na Marshal kanalu) "e vidite nasi imaju ovu opremu juce smo vam pokazali slike i bice ovakav sad rad po Rusima" a ne navede kad je snimak pravljen ni gjde a drugi Telegram kanali onda prenesu evo to je rad ukrajinskih specijalaca protiv Rusa pa onda na twitter i reddit i youtube to postane sinoc ukrajinski specijalci djelovali po Rusima u Irpinu i Buchi a vec danas ce biti na proruskim kanalima kako Ukrajinci koriste ruske snimke iz Sirije i podvaljuju pod svoje... :-)

#68666 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:40
by sime_cipol
sumirprimus wrote: 24/03/2022 09:53 i to je zanimljiv dio, odma na pocetku invazije poslije prvobitnih promasaja i laganog usetavanja u kijev, pojavila se vijets da je gerasimov bivsi. i otad ga nije bilo.
pa je onda nakon nekog vremena prosla vijest, da je šojgu spreman koknut putina. pa i njeg nema haha. kae srcani problemi, sve dok nije sudar il skok kroz prozor dobro je :lol:
onda su ameri pricali da ne mogu identifikovat glavnokomanducjuceg ove operacije.
onda je bila prica da licno putin rukovodi akcijom, sto i ne bi bilo iznenadjenje s obzirom kako im ide. a ide im odlicno samo ovako da nasatve :evil:
Agresije, rata sumire, nije operacija :D
Misljenja sam da poput dobrog starog obicaja paranoicnih ludjaka agresijom komanduje Licno Putin. Ne vjeruje nikome, on sve zna, a oni koji mu mozda skrecu paznju da grijesi i da vozi pun gas u propast, jednostavno zavrse u kucnom pritvoru i sl. Ili jednostavno ne smiju mu reci pravo stanje i sute

#68667 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:40
by moa
Spiritbreaker wrote: 24/03/2022 09:49
sumirprimus wrote: 24/03/2022 09:37
bub jos jedan pukovnik. ruslan
Valjda potpukovnik a ne pukovnik.
Pokojnik

#68668 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:41
by sumirprimus
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Since the Ukraine invasion began, Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and armed forces Chief of Staff Valery Gerasimov have become central figures in war launched by Vladimir Putin.
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When Putin is not alone on the screen, they are usually around. Since the beginning of the Ukraine invasion, Shoigou and Gerasimov have become the faces of the war.
The two are extremely close to Putin. They were, for example, Putin's military cortège during his television announcement on February 28 about having put Russia's nuclear forces on heightened alert.
It is not surprising that the Kremlin decided to put Shoigu and Gerasimov in the spotlight. In Putin’s eyes, they are the architects of the successful campaign to annex Crimea in 2014, Russia's military strategy in Syria as well as the support for the pro-Russian rebels in the Donbas region.
The duo is also perceived to be being among the most loyal of Putin's followers. Interestingly, both were appointed within weeks of each other to their respective posts in 2012.
It has been said that Shoigu will remain in office as long as Gerasimov remains chief of staff and vice versa. However, these two men on the front line of implementing the will of the Russian president in Ukraine have very different backgrounds and profiles.

Sergei Shoigu
Shoigu is the eternal heir apparent. He is one of the rare members of the first circle of power to have had as much influence under Boris Yeltsin at the end of the 1990s as under Putin.

The 66-year-old apparatchik began his political career at the end of the Soviet era, becoming defence minister in 2012 despite lacking military experience. It is a peculiarity not uncommon under Putin, who is keen to keep senior officers out of this position. However, Shoigu also does not have any experience of the secret services, which is much less common among those close to Putin.

His great quality is that he is “a servant to the tsar and a father to soldiers”, writes the Russian daily Moscow Times, paraphrasing Mikhail Lermontov’s famous poem “Borodino” in praise of the heroism of the Russian army.

Sergei Konvis, a politician from the Siberian region of Tuva, where Shoigu comes from, described him less lyrically as a “perfect chameleon”, capable of transforming himself at will to suit the pleasure of his leaders.

Thus, under Yeltsin, he became the minister of emergency situations. By the turn of the 21st century, the ministry had become a veritable state within a state, with more than 350,000 men and even a special police force ready to be deployed to combat any fire on Russian soil. He was a very active minister who never failed to visit the scene of a tragedy, which earned him great popularity – and a presumption that he would be Yeltsin's successor.

However, it was Putin who took power in 2002. Shoigu did not seem to take offence and immediately put himself at the service of the new strong man of Kremlin. He notably headed the United Russia party, in the pay of Putin, in order to cement the president's hold on the Russian political game.

Shoigu has also invited Putin several times to his house in Tuva, where he has organised high-profile fishing parties.

He is not just an klix courtier, however. According to “The Guardian”, Shoigu is described as being responsible for the vast modernisation of the Russian army. As defence minister, Shoigu also supervised the feared Russian military intelligence service or GRU, which is suspected of having stepped up assassination operations in Europe in the 2010s, including the attempted poisoning of former double agent Sergei Skripal in Salisbury in 2018.

Valery Gerasimov
Valery Gerasimov has attained mythic status. The career soldier was born in 1955 in Kazan, one of the most populous cities in Russia. He served in the armoured divisions of the Red Army throughout the former Soviet Union.

Gerasimov was also one of the commanders of the North Caucasus army during the second Chechen war (1999-2009). The BBC reported in 2012 that the famous journalist and critic of the Russian government Anna Politkovskaya, who was murdered in 2006, had described him as an example of “a man who knew how to preserve his honour as an officer” during that war. Gerasimov’s claim to fame was that he had arrested and convicted a Russian soldier accused of brutalising and murdering a young Chechen woman during the conflict.

Gerasimov, described by Shoigu as a “military man from head to toe”, led operations in Ukraine in 2014, in Syria and now, again, in Ukraine.

His international fame, however, is based on a misunderstanding. He is said to be the inventor of Russian “hybrid warfare”, which combines the use of conventional weapons with non-military methods – such as disinformation or cyberattacks – to prepare the ground for soldiers. There is even a “Gerasimov doctrine” named for this military approach.

But the inventor of this term, Mark Galeotti, a British expert of Russian military issues, has repeatedly tried to correct the record. He emphasises that there is no such official doctrine in Russia and that Gerasimov is not a war theorist.

The misunderstanding stems from a speech Gerasimov gave in 2013, in which he said the “border between war and peace had become increasingly blurred” and that “non-military means of achieving strategic goals had gained in importance”.

The speech seemed prophetic to observers following the annexation of Crimea, where such unconventional means (pro-Russian propaganda, false-flag operations to justify wartime goals) were used.

According to the “Financial Times”, the “Gerasimov doctrine” gained traction and the speech of the chief of staff was studied very closely in Washington. But Gerasimov's analysis “did not describe how the Russian army should act, but how he thought the West operated”, Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Russian Centre for the Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, told the paper.

Gerasimov thought hybrid war was what the US had used to foment the Arab Spring uprisings and that Washington was trying to use it against Moscow.

“Unfortunately, like a creature in a horror movie, this idea of a 'hybrid warfare' doctrine has taken hold in Washington analyst circles. There have been entire theories in which the 'Gerasimov doctrine' is a central piece of ‘chaos theory’ of political warfare against the West," wrote Michael Kofman, one of the leading US specialists on the Russian army.

As Galeotti wrote, Gerasimov and his mythical doctrine embodied the return of the Russian military villain, “even though he probably didn't even write the damn speech himself”.
tekst o ovoj dvojici, pitaju se svi gdje su nestali :)

#68669 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:44
by lajkujMe


Malo promaklo ispod radara.
SAD stavile jasno do znanja Rusima ako upotrebe bilo kakve nuklearne projektile dal protiv Nato zemalja dal protiv Ukrajine da sve oada u vodu i da ce uzvratiti istom mjerom.
To je donekle i Stoltenber jucer rekao.
"Rusiji mora biti jasno da ne mogu pobjediti u nuklearnom ratu"

#68670 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:44
by Čitalac
Poljska se ne zaustavlja. Nakon izbacivanja 45 ruskih diplomata i službenika, danas su blokirani računi ruske ambasade zbog „finansiranja terorizma“.

#68671 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:45
by sumirprimus


kazu nisu daleko ovi ceceni jos uvijek dogurali. i geolocijrau ih.. glavni im je cilj za zeljezara haman..
ovaj donji snimak ne gornji embeduje ga ruzno ebga..

#68672 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:46
by sumirprimus
lajkujMe wrote: 24/03/2022 10:44

Malo promaklo ispod radara.
SAD stavile jasno do znanja Rusima ako upotrebe bilo kakve nuklearne projektile dal protiv Nato zemalja dal protiv Ukrajine da sve oada u vodu i da ce uzvratiti istom mjerom.
To je donekle i Stoltenber jucer rekao.
"Rusiji mora biti jasno da ne mogu pobjediti u nuklearnom ratu"
vrijeme da i ameri stave svoju ... na sto pa da se ko ljudi izmjere ciji je veci, dosta je iskompleksirani kepec maltretiro evropljane i sirijce, vrijeme je da i njega neko maltretira.. kako treba

#68673 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:49
by sumirprimus
vezano uz vijest
Gordon Corera
@gordoncorera
New-Russian Lt. Colonel captured by Ukrainians, a Western official confirms.“In the area in which he was captured, there was a significant amount of electronic warfare equipment. It's unclear whether he was personally connected with that, but it's something we're looking into”
:-D :skoljka:

#68674 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:50
by agent_zero
janje_ wrote: 24/03/2022 10:12
austrijski ORF javlja jutros da su orci zauzeli Izjum.. :sad:
Loše, ako je istina :roll:

#68675 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 24/03/2022 10:58
by janje_
toska wrote: 24/03/2022 10:27
Zanimljivo je da istovaraju vozila sa oznakom Z, a ne V sto bi trebala biti morska flota. To opet pametnog detektiva Kokni Kola navodi na misao, da su "uzajmili" vozila sa nekog drugog fronta, da ih dovedu na jug, vjerovatno da pojacaju napade na Mariuopolj, sto opet znaci, da je bas knap na svim frontovima i da se kula od karata jednom mora srusiti.