#68626 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 24/03/2022 09:54
vec sam ispravljen i reko sam da sam u brzini pogrijesio, imas iznad par postova.
vec sam ispravljen i reko sam da sam u brzini pogrijesio, imas iznad par postova.
haa
Tako mlad a već dobio čin majora, pardon, suncokreta.sumirprimus wrote: ↑24/03/2022 09:36SpoilerShow
ovi majori kod njih fakat ko sunckoreti padaju.
valja odskolovat majora..
Jednostavno. Proglasis pobjedu, mrtve proglasis ratnim herojima. Nikada ne dozvolis da se napravi konacni spisak poginulih nego objavis informaciju kako je ukupno poginulo par hiljada vojnika i to je to. Kremiras tijela da se ne vidi koliko ih ima. Sa 15 godina zatvora kaznis one koji pokusaju napraviti spiskove (taj zakon je vec usvojen prvi dan rata). Oni sto su izgubili bliznje ce tugovati sami i na kraju prihvatiti realnost. Njihov sin/otac je poginuo u odbrani rusije. On je heroj kao sto su bili heroji u 2 svj. ratu i to je to. Zivot ide dalje. Uvijek pali. U svakom ratu. Tako i ameri rade, tako je i u Siriji bilo, pa i u nas.lajkujMe wrote: ↑24/03/2022 09:08 Malo mog razmisljanja o Ruskoj propagandi i TV izvjestajima.
Zivo me zanima kamo ce sakriti istinu kad se vrate ovi Borci nazad svojim kucama?
Kako ces ugusiti 200 do 300 hiljada Ruskih vojnika da ispricaju svojim roditeljima, prijateljima, familiji, zenama i slicno sta se zapravo desavalo u Ukrajini.
Jos kad im se na desetine hiljada vrati bez ruku, nogu, teskih ozljeda.
Ruski mediji predstavljaju ovo kao Ruzicasto setanje po Ukrajini.
Kad tad ce Ruski narod da sazna za istinu.
ništa ne možeš sakriti u doba interneta.apsidejzi wrote: ↑24/03/2022 09:57Jednostavno. Proglasis pobjedu, mrtve proglasis ratnim herojima. Nikada ne dozvolis da se napravi konacni spisak poginulih nego objavis informaciju kako je ukupno poginulo par hiljada vojnika i to je to. Kremiras tijela da se ne vidi koliko ih ima. Sa 15 godina zatvora kaznis one koji pokusaju napraviti spiskove (taj zakon je vec usvojen prvi dan rata). Oni sto su izgubili bliznje ce tugovati sami i na kraju prihvatiti realnost. Njihov sin/otac je poginuo u odbrani rusije. On je heroj kao sto su bili heroji u 2 svj. ratu i to je to. Zivot ide dalje. Uvijek pali. U svakom ratu. Tako i ameri rade, tako je i u Siriji bilo, pa i u nas.lajkujMe wrote: ↑24/03/2022 09:08 Malo mog razmisljanja o Ruskoj propagandi i TV izvjestajima.
Zivo me zanima kamo ce sakriti istinu kad se vrate ovi Borci nazad svojim kucama?
Kako ces ugusiti 200 do 300 hiljada Ruskih vojnika da ispricaju svojim roditeljima, prijateljima, familiji, zenama i slicno sta se zapravo desavalo u Ukrajini.
Jos kad im se na desetine hiljada vrati bez ruku, nogu, teskih ozljeda.
Ruski mediji predstavljaju ovo kao Ruzicasto setanje po Ukrajini.
Kad tad ce Ruski narod da sazna za istinu.
Zato se meni svidja ukrajinska ideja da naprave spisak poginulih ruskih vojnika sa slikama i lokacijom pogibije. Eno ih koriste AI da prepoznaje lica kako bi mogli povezati tijelo sa identitetom. Ako neko eksterni napravi takav spisak onda je to vec game changer. Ovako, rusi to nikada nece napraviti a kremiranje ce sakriti tragove.
Treba to reci 70.godisnjaku u Moskvi koji je mozda cuo za internet ali definitivno ga ne zna koristiti kao i svi iz te generacije. Moji roditelju su muku mucili dok nisu skontali viber i facebookzigzag wrote: ↑24/03/2022 10:01ništa ne možeš sakriti u doba interneta.apsidejzi wrote: ↑24/03/2022 09:57
Jednostavno. Proglasis pobjedu, mrtve proglasis ratnim herojima. Nikada ne dozvolis da se napravi konacni spisak poginulih nego objavis informaciju kako je ukupno poginulo par hiljada vojnika i to je to. Kremiras tijela da se ne vidi koliko ih ima. Sa 15 godina zatvora kaznis one koji pokusaju napraviti spiskove (taj zakon je vec usvojen prvi dan rata). Oni sto su izgubili bliznje ce tugovati sami i na kraju prihvatiti realnost. Njihov sin/otac je poginuo u odbrani rusije. On je heroj kao sto su bili heroji u 2 svj. ratu i to je to. Zivot ide dalje. Uvijek pali. U svakom ratu. Tako i ameri rade, tako je i u Siriji bilo, pa i u nas.
Zato se meni svidja ukrajinska ideja da naprave spisak poginulih ruskih vojnika sa slikama i lokacijom pogibije. Eno ih koriste AI da prepoznaje lica kako bi mogli povezati tijelo sa identitetom. Ako neko eksterni napravi takav spisak onda je to vec game changer. Ovako, rusi to nikada nece napraviti a kremiranje ce sakriti tragove.
Ovo su u najbolju ruku ukrajinski gastarbajteri koji su se vratili iz Irske da brane domovinu od orka... Ali nebitno, znaju za st. patricks day, meni jedan od omiljenih "blagdana"..
ma sumi natežu oni vako šuplu od početka, ali koiko vidim s klipova o čemu god da su pričali da će poslati to je već na terenusumirprimus wrote: ↑24/03/2022 09:14 Ukraine’s plea for Soviet-era anti-aircraft systems goes unanswered
US plan to provide long-range missile defence runs into resistance from those countries that have the munitions
i za pvo istocni evropljani zapinju. da je njima svima d se a da im ne udje. i ako moze dzaba.US president Joe Biden’s promise to supply Ukraine with Soviet-era long-range missile systems has become bogged down in difficulties with sourcing and moving the equipment, according to US and western officials.
Even as the US and its allies prepare to announce fresh sanctions on Moscow and additional lethal and humanitarian aid for Ukraine this week, the provision of the anti-aircraft ordnance seen by Kyiv as crucial to its ability to halt Russia’s advance is set to take more time.
The effort is running into similar issues as the now-abandoned plan to transfer Polish fighter jets to Ukraine, a move that descended into a diplomatic fiasco. The countries that have the equipment — Slovakia, Greece and Bulgaria — have either balked at the plan or want new systems as a substitute. They also fear that Moscow will interpret any transfer as an aggressive act.
Defence experts say Ukraine needs the anti-aircraft systems to repel aerial strikes by Russian fighter jets.
There is increasing urgency in getting these kinds of systems into the country
Tom Malinowski, House foreign affairs committee
“They’re using these systems to shoot down both Russian aircraft and Russian missiles,” said Frederick Kagan from the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think-tank in Washington. “The Ukrainians are regularly intercepting Russian missiles. There are not that many systems in the world that can do that reliably.
Tom Malinowski, a Democratic lawmaker on the House foreign affairs committee, said: “Russia seems to be increasing the number of air strikes as their ground forces are held back effectively by the Ukrainians. There is increasing urgency in getting these kinds of systems into the country.”
Of the 30 Nato countries, only Slovakia, Greece and Bulgaria have supplies of the S-300 missile system that was initially developed by the Soviet Union, and which the Ukrainian military is trained to use.
Last week, Slovakia said it would send the S-300 if it could source a suitable substitute but on Wednesday it announced that it was not ready to do so. Bulgaria and Greece have also ruled out transferring their systems for now.
Slovakia has started to receive components of the American-made Patriot missile defence system that Germany is temporarily deploying as part of Nato’s response to the war in Ukraine. The Netherlands is also sending a Patriot system to Slovakia.
But Slovakia wants to see more permanent contributions. A Slovak official said on Wednesday that the German system would only be in Slovakia for six months. Slovakia cannot afford to buy its own Patriot system and it would cost several billion dollars to have enough batteries for reasonable defence cover, the official said.
Another Slovakian official pointed to remarks on Wednesday from Jaroslav Nad, the country’s defence minister, indicating that its military would need a permanent alternative if it was to donate its own system.
Slovakia also fears Moscow would regard the transfer of the anti-aircraft munitions as an aggressive act and subsequently attack the country, according to someone briefed on the discussions.
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Doomed plan to send Polish jets to Ukraine exposes rift in western alliance
The US and Greece have had informal discussions about Greece transferring its S-300 system but Athens has decided against because of the missiles’ importance to its own security, a Greek diplomat said. Greece has already sent Kalashnikov rifles and rocket launchers but has ruled out sending air-defence systems, a second diplomat said.
After meeting with Lloyd Austin, US defence secretary, last week, Bulgarian prime minister Kiril Petkov would only offer humanitarian assistance to Ukraine.
“Being so close to the conflict, just right now I have to say that currently, we will not be able to send military assistance to Ukraine,” he said on Saturday.
Despite the reluctance of the three countries with S-300s, the Biden administration is not giving up on the plan for now. “We feel good about the progress we are making with respect to air-defence systems,” US national security adviser Jake Sullivan said on Wednesday ahead of Biden’s meetings in Brussels on Thursday.
A US official said Washington has delivered nearly $350mn of security assistance to Ukraine over the last three weeks and has committed $1bn more, including deliveries that have already begun arriving.
The official said the US is helping Ukraine acquire longer range anti-aircraft systems and munitions its forces are trained to use, at the request of Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s president.
Indeed, the Biden administration wants the transfers done urgently, according to US officials. “We’re all mindful of the clock, and that Russia is intensifying their bombardment and long-range fires on cities and population centres throughout the country,” Pentagon press secretary John Kirby said earlier this week.
The reluctance has echoes of the ill-fated fighter jet plan that was scrapped this month when the US rejected a Polish proposal for the US to take possession of Soviet-era fighter jets and transfer them to Ukraine. Washington feared that doing so might trigger a Russian response, while the Pentagon concluded that the jets would not significantly change the Ukrainian air force’s effectiveness.
iz pouzdanih izvora znam da ce djevuska ove godine ljetovati na krimu
austrijski ORF javlja jutros da su orci zauzeli Izjum..sumirprimus wrote: ↑24/03/2022 10:00
pointonski mostovi kod izuma, ako znamo mi znaju i ukri, bice snimaka hehe![]()
Malo pomalo, kompletiramo se
imaju problema sa avijacijom na jugu i jugo istoku.JoseMujica wrote: ↑24/03/2022 10:11
ma sumi natežu oni vako šuplu od početka, ali koiko vidim s klipova o čemu god da su pričali da će poslati to je već na terenu![]()