Kikibombona wrote:Opetja033 wrote:
Mozes misliti koliko su onda radikalni i ekstremni kurdski teroristi kad pored takvog Ahrar al Shama Amnesty International prozove YPG teroriste za zlocine protiv covjecnosti i etnicko ciscenje.
Sve crno na bijelo dokumentovano.
Aj da odgovorim radi tebe, starog forumskog oponenta, te jos nekih koji nisu upratili...
Vjerovatno si propustio bitan momenat u sirijskom ratu. Naime, formirana je koalicija pod nazivom 'SIRIJSKE DEMOKRATSKE SNAGE'.
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Dakle, kurdsko-arapsko-asirska koalicija, ili ako volis ateisticko-islamsko-krscanska! General Hemo (YPG) je pozvao sve SIRIJCE koji zele demokratsku Siriju da se pridruze koaliciji. Ne mogu garantovati, ali imam osjecaj da su koaliciji kumovali vazni svjetski igraci i da je formiranje iste najteze podnijela Turska. Vise ne mogu tek tako lijepiti etiketu 'kurdski teroristi, PKK-PYD teroristi'. Kada krenu prema Efrinu, sa sobom ce imati zastavu 'Syrian democratic forces'.
Za Tursku ce biti tesko udarati i pljuvati Arape, Asirce, muslimane, krscane... koji se samo bore za 'demokratsku Siriju'... i to protiv najveceg monstruma danasnjice, tzv. ISILa.
Odmah nakon formiranja koalicije Amerikanci su poslali nekoliko tona oruzja. Radi Turske su porucili da je oruzje poslano Arapima u Hasaki (!?
), da bi uskoro stigao odgovor Saliha Muslima i generala Hema, koji su se Amerikancima zahvalili i porucili da je YPG preuzeo oruzje.
General Hemo
The number of weapons airdropped to SDF was a limited. It was not an amount that can make a big strategic differences on the ground. But we see this as very important. It is important to us as YPG. Because with this new support, the cooperation we have had for a year has reached a new level. And we hope to increase our work together even more, we hope to work strategically. So what we received was not big. But it is big for a new start.
I nakon svega stize turski odgovor preko Amnestija... Kurdi optuzuju turski i ihvanijski lobi u Amnestiju za lazni izvjestaj... ko ce znati...
1. Tursku podvalu je demantovao SNC! Ranije su YPG etiketirali kao teroriste, sto dovoljno govori kakvi su odnosi medju njima. Predstavnici SNC su posjetili Rojavu da ispitaju navode o etnickom ciscenju. Na kraju su imali dovoljno casti i postenja da odbace tursku podvalu, koja za cilj ima ocrniti kurdsku borbu kako bi oslabili njihove politicke perspektive.
Predstavnik SNC!
SNC MEMBER REJECTS TURKEY ACCUSATIONS AGAINST YPG OF ETHNIC CLEANSING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCcQZwfQ0BY
2. Odmah nakon objavljenog izvjestaja lideri arapskih plemena na sjeveru Sirije su sazvali pres konferenciju... Odbacili su optuzbe Amenstija, te porucili da je svrha istih destabilizacija Sirije i izazivanje sukoba izmedju Kurda i Arapa koji se hrabro bore protiv ISILa. Jasno su porucili da nikakvih zlocina nije bilo i da su odnosi lokalnih Arapa i Kurda na najvisoj mogucoj razini.
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3. Optuzbe je odbacio istaknuti komadant YPG, etnicki Arapin
Pogledati od 5.05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHaaKR1HaFk
Covjek kaze da je cijela prica jedna velika laz. Rekao je da ne bi bio pripadnik YPG da su Arapi na bilo koji nacin ugrozen. Stavise, kaze da bi se u tom slucaju borio protiv YPG.
Lazne navode su odbacili lider arapske jedinici Sandadid, te Jaysh al Thuwar.
Odbacio je i lider Burkan al Firat. Evo sta je rekao o turskim budalastinama...
It was not just ISIS that was defeated in Girê Spî but also its political supporters. It was also those who don’t appear to be a part of ISIS but who secretly share the same ideology that were defeated. Among those who lamented the defeat of ISIS were first and foremost Turkey and the Syrian opposition. Following the liberation of Girê Spî many journalists and human rights advocates came [to the down]. Not a single one of them made such a claim. If it is as they say and there was a policy of ethnic cleansing then did all of these people who came and did not witness anything also take part? If they have proof let them present it. For example there are still hundreds of empty villages around Kobanê. Their residents there fled because of the battle. Those who fled [from Girê Spî] also fled for this reason. We did not remove anyone. When the battle was over most came back. Right now in Syria there are 13 million displaced people. Was it the Burkan al-Firat that displaced them all? The door is open to the United Nations, UNICEF, human rights organizations and anyway interested in doing an investigation in the region. But it is true that we did not allow the delegation formed by the Syrian opposition. Because within that delegation were people who even a year ago had helped to capture children within Girê Spî and hand them over to ISIS. What were these individuals, who betrayed the people of Girê Spî, attempting to do? This was part of an attempt to show these events as part of an Arab-Turkish war. In fact half of the fighters in the Burkan al-Firat who took part in the campaign to liberate Girê Spî were Arabs. Did they go and murder their own families? Before ISIS tried to portray its battle as between Muslims and non-believers. Now they are trying to portray it as a war between Kurds and Arabs.
4. Navode je odbacio YPG general Hemo i glasnogovornik Helil.
Evo sta je rekao Hemo
We saw the report of the Amnesty International. I can tell you that the timing and wording of this report is a bit suspicious. At a time when we are forming a new alliance with Syrian pro-democracy forces, and getting ready to wage a big war against ISIS this report is released. Report comes right after the coalition forces are giving us a significant aid. Hard to think it is all a matter of coincidence.
We call on the international community and the United States as well not to take this report serious. Because this is not what is happening on the ground. But again we are officially calling on independent bodies to come and see what is going on the ground.
Now, let me be clear; we have liberated some 1500 Arab villages. Some of this villages became war zones between us and ISIS. Battles took days in some villages. I am not saying there has been no harm to those villages. But they are not more than 4 or 5 villages. We have 1500 Arab villages liberated and people in them live in peace now. If it was true, why are these 1500 villages still standing? Apart from that, there are Arabs who were brought to Rojava by the Baathist regime and settled throughout the Kurds’ lands. These Arabs too in Jazira are leading respected lives. If we had an intention of driving Arabs away, we would have driven those Arabs first. I think whoever is discontent with ISIS defeats has some share in this report because we have success against ISIS. And all the world sees our effectiveness and success over this terrorist group. We have proved in practice, in liberating Rojava regions too.
One more point, 30% of YPG made up of Arabs. If allegation in the report were true did these Arabs with us committed those atrocities too? If such things were true, would they fight alongside us in Jazira and Kobane? We believe such reports want to harm our image. In our opinion, Syrian National Coalition and forces behind it has a lot to do with this. Because, at the start, for example, they couldn’t digest our liberation of Tal Abyad. So they have been spreading such rumors on purpose. But we will continue our struggle for democracy in Syria in the face of all accusations, off all such things they want to square us with. And we are open to accountability. We are respectful to human rights. Any independent body can come and investigate. We are liberating 1500 Arab villages, this report should have thanked us. We have liberated so many people. We liberated Shengal [Sinjar] and many Yezidi women. There are other interests in this report. Our units are here, anyone can come and investigate and talk to Arabs and Turkomens as well.
Mrzi me traziti izjavu Redur Helila. Nije tesko naci, ali nema potrebe... Ima na njegovoj fb stranici.
Zato evo oficijelna izjava YPG povodom laznih optuzbi
http://kurdishquestion.com/index.php/ku ... eport.html
Evo sta kaze britanski dobrovoljac u redovima YPG
http://kurdishquestion.com/index.php/ku ... nteer.html
5. Lazne optuzbe je ranije odbacila 'koalicija' koja iz zraka pomaze YPG
Jedino su pojedini turkmenski autoriteti podrzali navode plasirane iz Turske. Pitam se zasto?
Uglavnom, svi relevantni Arapi su demantovali i tu se cijela prica zavrsava. Jedino ako ne mislis optuziti Arape da pale vlastite kuce!
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