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#65726 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:12
by madner
Edelweiss je duze u upotrebi od Nacista, tu se vidi da Ukraina usvaja drugu tradiciju vojske, naslonjenu na Austriju. Jager brigada je takodje nesto tako.

Odlicna jedinica ova brdsko planinska.

#65727 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:15
by parappa
Slo Burner wrote: 17/03/2022 11:54 Moldova calls on Russia to withdraw from Transnistria. Moldovan President Maia Sandu called for the removal of munitions and "complete and unconditional withdrawal of Russian forces" from the unrecognized breakaway region during a UN General Assembly meeting on March 16

Neki novi momenti
ovo sam cekao... a i oni su cekali da vide kako ce rusi napredovati

#65728 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:15
by SanskiBiser
Tom Cooper

Good morning everybody!
Here’s my review for the last 24 hours, 16 Mar 22
CAA - Combined Arms Army (Russia)
BTG - Battalion Tactical Group (Russia)
GMRD - Guards Motor Rifle Division (Russia)
GTA - Guards Tank Army (Russia)
GTD - Guards Tank Division (Russia)
IFV - infantry fighting vehicle
LOC - Line of Control (old frontline between Ukraine and Separatists in the Donbass region)
MANPAD – man-protable air defence system
MBT - main battle tank
MRB - Motorized Rifle Brigade
MRD - Motorized Rifle Division
PGM – precision guided munition
RFA – Russian Federation Army/Russian Armed Forces
RF-9xxxx - Russian military aviation registration
SAM – surface-to-air missile
UAF – Ukrainian armed Forces
UCAV – unmanned combat aerial vehicle
VDV - Vozdushno-desantnye voyska (Russian Airborne forces)
VKS - Vozdushno-kosmicheskiye sily (Air-Space Force, Russia)
West OSK – Western Military District, RFA
STRATEGIC
The Russians have de-facto stopped all their offensive operations yesterday. The RUMINT has it, they’ve lost up to 40% of troops involved in the invasion by now (mind: this is including killed, wounded, missing/prisoner of war etc.), and are thus busy bringing in additional units from the Far East, Armenia, and Tajikistan, and drafting even cadets from military higher education to replace their losses. Not sure if their losses are really 40%, but gauging by ‘disappearance’ of numerous units from the frontlines, I would say about 20 battered BTGs were withdrawn from the line to be reorganised and reconstituted.

The Ukrainian GenStab is reporting that the West OSK refused to deploy the 5th Combined Arms Army (not involved yet) to Kyiv, supposedly ‘due to heavy losses in the south’. Not yet sure what to think of this, but if so, then the 58th CAA is in far more serious trouble than thought – and that would explain the withdrawal of its elements from Voznesensk and Kryvyi Rihh, and the rushed redeployment of its elements from Armenia, just for example, and the ‘non-appearance’ of the much-expected amphibious landing in the Odessa area.
BTW, following a law suit filled by Ukraine against Russia, the UN International Court of Justice in Den Haag (including 15 judges, between them one each from Russia and China) has ordered Russia to end hostilities in Ukraine (vote was 13:2), and to ensure that any military units controlled or maintained by it, as well as any organisations or individuals indirectly controlled by it, do not take further actions. Furthermore, while explaining that the court had no evidence that Ukraine was committing genocide on Russians on its territory, the court announced that it has jurisdiction to investigate whether genocide is taking place in Ukraine – by Russia and on Ukrainians.
Don't worry: this decision is going to be completely ignored by Putin, but also by the mass of Western governments...
AIR
This 16 Mar was another bad day for the VKS. Except for confirmation for a loss of 6-7 helicopters destroyed in the Ukrainian artillery barrage of the Kherson Airport, a day before, there followed a confirmation for a number of earlier losses (like burial of a Lieutenant-Colonel shot down while flying a Su-25 on 7 March, or photos the wreckage of a Su-34 shot down on 5 March near Chernihiv). Atop of this, the Ukrainians have claimed two Su-30SMs as shot down near Odessa, and the Ka-52 76R/RF-13411 was confirmed shot down over unknown area.
Part of the reason is the latest shipment of SAMs donated by the USA: delivered already few days ago, this should have contained 9K33 Osa/SA-8, S-300/SA-10, and S-300V/SA-12s (apparently acquired from Egypt in exchange for a sale of Boeing F-15E fighter-bombers), plus another load of MANPADS, including Soviet/Russian-made 98K34 Strela-3/SA-14s.
Net result: I’m not surprised one can now see VKS Ka-52 and Mi-28-pilots acting as visible on this video ([b] I.e. approaching enemy positions at high speed only to shoot their unguided rockets ‘ballistically’, to extend their range, before turning sharply away and releasing flares. Free along the motto: ‘spray and pray’…
…and thus the Russians spent the day shelling infrastructure and housing in multiple cities, ‘instead’. Except for Kyiv, Chernihiv, and Kharkiv, hit were also Vinnitsa and Zaporozhye. By now, at least 72 schools and 21 hospitals have been targeted by the Russians (in addition to about 3,500 infrastructure facilities, 2,700 residential buildings, 28 churches, etc., etc., etc.)[/b]
That said, the worst of all happened in Mariupol: after the 150th MRD was mauled while attacking from the east, on 15 Mar, yesterday it was the turn on the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade, reinforced by T-64s of the Separatists to get ambushed. The latter have reached the Freedom Square, in western central Mariupol, but by then the Marines fell behind and thus the lonesome tanks were cut to pieces.
As a ‘retaliation’ for these – and earlier – losses, the Russians not only seized the Mariupol Regional Intensive Care Hospital, where they are holding its patients as hostages, but yesterday the VKS bombed out the Drama Theater, where hundreds of civilians were sheltering (see attached photo, where one can clearly read words ‘Dety’ – ‘children’ – written on the tarmac in front and behind the building….), and then the Neptune swimming pool, where further hundreds were taking refugee. The number of victims in both cases remains unknown.

Note for the end: after three weeks of day-by-day reporting, and until the situation changes, I’ll now slow down the pace of my reporting to ‘every second day’.

#65729 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:17
by jefff
Oko Mariupolja dvojica Rusa i dva separatista ostali na popristu. Onaj brkati izgleda opasno, mislim izgledao je.


#65730 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:19
by Gandalf
Nakon ukrajinskog debakla putler će zaista vratiti ruse u doba petra velikog, bukvalno će rusija u 2025 biti na tehnološkom nivou carske rusije 300 godina prije kada je petar umro. Samo još da od balkanske braće nauče gusle razjebavat pa da počnu mitovi o putinu heroju i epskoj pobjedi kod Odese.

#65731 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:24
by GAU8
Gandalf wrote: 17/03/2022 12:19 Nakon ukrajinskog debakla putler će zaista vratiti ruse u doba petra velikog, bukvalno će rusija u 2025 biti na tehnološkom nivou carske rusije 300 godina prije kada je petar umro. Samo još da od balkanske braće nauče gusle razjebavat pa da počnu mitovi o putinu heroju i epskoj pobjedi kod Odese.
Ma samo da ne vrati cijeli svijet u srednji vijek...

#65732 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:29
by Nierika

#65733 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:30
by drndalo
Jebem ti "silu nebesku" sta raketiraju ? Nebo ? Mjesec? Govno im od zec...!

Rakete s ramena na seoskoj olimpijadi ?


SanskiBiser wrote: 17/03/2022 12:15

Net result: I’m not surprised one can now see VKS Ka-52 and Mi-28-pilots acting as visible on this video

[b] I.e. approaching enemy positions at high speed only to shoot their unguided rockets ‘ballistically’, to extend their range, before turning sharply away and releasing flares. Free along the motto: ‘spray and pray’…

#65734 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:33
by Gandalf
Slo Burner wrote: 17/03/2022 11:54 Moldova calls on Russia to withdraw from Transnistria. Moldovan President Maia Sandu called for the removal of munitions and "complete and unconditional withdrawal of Russian forces" from the unrecognized breakaway region during a UN General Assembly meeting on March 16

Neki novi momenti
Ma povukli bi se oni rado ali nemaju za goriva :lol:

#65735 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:33
by Nierika
liga.net wrote:Operational information of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as of 12:00 on March 17.

The enemy does not leave attempts to reach the administrative borders of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions. Unsuccessfully.

To constrain the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the enemy is trying to block the settlements north of the capital.

At the same time, the enemy does not refuse to launch the missile and bomb strikes on civilian infrastructure in Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Dnipropetrovsk, and other regions where active hostilities are not being waged.

In the Volyn direction, intensive use of the territory and infrastructure of Belarus by the group of Russian troops is recorded for delivering strikes on Ukraine and logistical support for the group of occupying forces operating in the Polissya direction.

There is still a possibility of participation of certain units of the armed forces of Belarus in hostilities on the side of the Russian Federation.

In the Polissya direction, the enemy made attempts to capture the previously occupied lines, which were lost as a result of the successful actions of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It does not have success in this direction, it suffers losses. They are trying to regroup troops and establish logistics.

In the Siversky direction, the enemy did not carry out active offensive operations. Performs chaotic attacks on the positions of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, tries to conduct reconnaissance.

In the Slobozhansky direction, the infidels tried to carry out offensive operations from the area of ​​the city of Izyum but were unsuccessful.

The Russian invaders are reinforcing the grouping with additional units of the 1st Tank Army and coastal units of the Baltic Fleet.

In the Donetsk and Tauride directions, the enemy carried out offensive operations. Had partial success in the Rubizhne area (fixed on the western and northwestern outskirts of the city, moving towards the southern part of the city). On the Popasnyansky and Volnovakha directions, they conducted unsuccessful assault operations in the areas of the settlements of Verkhnyotoretsk and Marinka. Took a loss. Regroup troops.

The assault on the city continues in the Mariupol direction.

In the Zaporizhzhia direction, the invaders did not carry out active offensive operations.

In the Pivdennobugsky direction, the enemy carried out reconnaissance, carried out engineering equipment of the positions occupied. He tried to carry out offensive actions in the Kryvyi Rih direction, took control of the settlement Mala Schesternya, however, did not have a general success and fixed in their positions.

In the Taurida direction, the enemy continued to build up the system of logistics for the grouping of troops. A collection point for damaged equipment has been deployed at the Dzhankoy airfield.

#65736 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:38
by philanthropy
drndalo wrote: 17/03/2022 12:30 Jebem ti "silu nebesku" sta raketiraju ? Nebo ? Mjesec? Govno im od zec...!

Rakete s ramena na seoskoj olimpijadi ?

vjerovatno je koristio rakete kao dodatne flareove, bezbeli naciljan bio?

#65737 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:41
by Bumbar v2
laik1981 wrote: 17/03/2022 12:11
1Dante1 wrote: 17/03/2022 12:04

Docekali ga na volej ovom agresijom.
Ma on je izgleda imao totalno pogresne podatke sa terena kada je ovo pripremao.. Ocito da nije ocekivao nikakav otpor od strane Ukrajinaca i to mu je bila fatalna greska.. Mogu zamisliti u kakvoj su situaciji njegovi savjetnici i saradnici sa kojima je pripremao invaziju.. Ukrajina postala groblje ruske balavurdije i otpad za rusko zeljezo..
Ovo njemu i nije toliki problem, da nije srušen mit o ruskoj vojnoj sili. Mislim da se više niko ne boji Rusa. Samo nabaviti Bajre i moderno protivoklopno naoružanje i miran si.

#65738 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 12:44
by drndalo
philanthropy wrote: 17/03/2022 12:38
drndalo wrote: 17/03/2022 12:30 Jebem ti "silu nebesku" sta raketiraju ? Nebo ? Mjesec? Govno im od zec...!

Rakete s ramena na seoskoj olimpijadi ?

vjerovatno je koristio rakete kao dodatne flareove, bezbeli naciljan bio?
Ma jok, vidi lola, trznu ga nagore da bi rakete ispalili u sto vecem luku da povecaju domet, jer ako se previse priblize normalnim letom, otresce ih o ledinu... 8)

Nevodjene rakete svakako, pa jos ovako ofrljativno ispaljene imaju samo 1 cilj, teror. Pasce negdje, sto bi moj stari rekao "jos nijedna nije ostala u zraku"...

#65739 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:08
by SanskiBiser
philanthropy wrote: 17/03/2022 12:38
drndalo wrote: 17/03/2022 12:30 Jebem ti "silu nebesku" sta raketiraju ? Nebo ? Mjesec? Govno im od zec...!

Rakete s ramena na seoskoj olimpijadi ?

vjerovatno je koristio rakete kao dodatne flareove, bezbeli naciljan bio?
fino vam pise zbog straha od novih PVO sistema koji su vec isporuceni Ukrajincima, moraju da koriste : Fire along the motto: ‘spray and pray’…ono pray da nesto pogodis... :lol:

#65740 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:10
by SanskiBiser
drndalo wrote: 17/03/2022 12:44
philanthropy wrote: 17/03/2022 12:38

vjerovatno je koristio rakete kao dodatne flareove, bezbeli naciljan bio?
Ma jok, vidi lola, trznu ga nagore da bi rakete ispalili u sto vecem luku da povecaju domet, jer ako se previse priblize normalnim letom, otresce ih o ledinu... 8)

Nevodjene rakete svakako, pa jos ovako ofrljativno ispaljene imaju samo 1 cilj, teror. Pasce negdje, sto bi moh stari rekao "jos nijedna nije ostala u zraku"...
Uskoro na prekodrinskim portalima "NOVO TAJNO RUSKO GRAVITACIONO NAVODJENJE RAKETA - Teslin tajni patent" :-)

#65741 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:16
by garankich2013
Nemojte im više molim vas uvodit sankcije , čuj 4. talas sankcija :lol: dizel 2€ , brašna u spaniji nema ,ulja nema , mađarska zatvara izvoz , za pola godine rikše će se vozit u Berlinu. Ne daj Boze da oni nama udare sankcije sta bi tek onda bilo kad je ovako teško poslije EU sankcija njima

#65742 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:18
by arman1
Ko se razumije nek komentariše. Bajro ima modifikaciju kojom se koristi za borbu protiv helikoptera i aviona u niskom letu. Zbog bolje pozicije(visoko je) prije uočava leteće mete i iste cilja snopom i u realnom vremenu daje podatke PVO bateriji. Baklje, "Coins" i ostali alati odvračanja od PVO postaju skoro beskorisni. Izraelci razvili koncept ali ga turci (i ukrajinci) usavršili.

#65743 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:19
by zigzag
garankich2013 wrote: 17/03/2022 13:16 Nemojte im više molim vas uvodit sankcije , čuj 4. talas sankcija :lol: dizel 2€ , brašna u spaniji nema ,ulja nema , mađarska zatvara izvoz , za pola godine rikše će se vozit u Berlinu. Ne daj Boze da oni nama udare sankcije sta bi tek onda bilo kad je ovako teško poslije EU sankcija njima
Ne bi bilo nestašica da nije paničnih kupovina. Robe se mogu zamijeniti ali ne mogu za 48 sati. Npr u BIH je u dan-dva kupljeno goriva koliko se inače kupi za tri sedmice. Isto tako i u Sloveniji i u Hrvatskoj. Sada benzinske pumpe skoro da nemaju prometa.

#65744 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:24
by Naslovnica
Treba ženi prevoz, pa ako ima neko od forumaša zainteresovan?! 8-)

https://zena.blic.rs/lifestyle/pijana-m ... da/2rrlecd

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#65745 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:26
by laik1981
Bumbar v2 wrote: 17/03/2022 12:41
laik1981 wrote: 17/03/2022 12:11
Ma on je izgleda imao totalno pogresne podatke sa terena kada je ovo pripremao.. Ocito da nije ocekivao nikakav otpor od strane Ukrajinaca i to mu je bila fatalna greska.. Mogu zamisliti u kakvoj su situaciji njegovi savjetnici i saradnici sa kojima je pripremao invaziju.. Ukrajina postala groblje ruske balavurdije i otpad za rusko zeljezo..
Ovo njemu i nije toliki problem, da nije srušen mit o ruskoj vojnoj sili. Mislim da se više niko ne boji Rusa. Samo nabaviti Bajre i moderno protivoklopno naoružanje i miran si.
Ma oni jesu vojna sila, bar sto se tice kvantiteta, ali su ocigledno lose vodjeni.. Amerikanci bi raznijeli sve vojne baze i onesposobili pvo bez da nogom kroce na teritoriju Ukrajine.. Isto to su mogli i Rusi.. Imaju satelite, krstarece rakete.. Mogli udarati sa mora, sa kopna i iz zraka i devastirati odbranu Ukrajine.. Oni poslali zeljezo i regrute da Ukrajinci testiraju na njima svoje naoruzanje.. Totalni vojni debakl.. Ovo bombardovanje gradova samo je dokaz nemoci..

#65746 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:27
by Slo Burner
Naslovnica wrote: 17/03/2022 13:24 Treba ženi prevoz, pa ako ima neko od forumaša zainteresovan?! 8-)

https://zena.blic.rs/lifestyle/pijana-m ... da/2rrlecd

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Nema u Engleskoj vake zene, nit je kad bilo

#65747 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:27
by zigzag
https://avaz.ba/showbiz/jet-set/726746/ ... -roditelji

Rusi će biti sve glasniji. Džaba hapšenja kad svaki normalan čovjek vidi da je agresija zlo. Ne može se ruska javnost izolovati od svijeta u doba interneta.

#65748 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:28
by Nebozemlja
garankich2013 wrote: 17/03/2022 13:16 Nemojte im više molim vas uvodit sankcije , čuj 4. talas sankcija :lol: dizel 2€ , brašna u spaniji nema ,ulja nema , mađarska zatvara izvoz , za pola godine rikše će se vozit u Berlinu. Ne daj Boze da oni nama udare sankcije sta bi tek onda bilo kad je ovako teško poslije EU sankcija njima
Ukidaj bre te sankcije narod nema leba da jede.

#65749 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:28
by irac300
Bobi wrote: 17/03/2022 11:45 Ruska vojna taktika je zaglavila negdje u 1945-oj godini :D.
Al' bukvalno. Još od posljednjeg juriša na Berlin da bi drugu Staljinu dali poklon za 1. Maj ništa se nije promijenilo.

#65750 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 17/03/2022 13:31
by Naslovnica
Slo Burner wrote: 17/03/2022 13:27
Naslovnica wrote: 17/03/2022 13:24 Treba ženi prevoz, pa ako ima neko od forumaša zainteresovan?! 8-)

https://zena.blic.rs/lifestyle/pijana-m ... da/2rrlecd

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Nema u Engleskoj vake zene, nit je kad bilo
Eto ti je na FB jarane, otvoren profil.
:lol: :thumbup:

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