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#651 Carles Puyol Vs Real Madrid

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L00d wrote:
Tomahawk11 wrote:Ma ja, kad je Real Madrid i Mourinho u pitanju, namjerno ciscenje kartona je prljavo, ovakvo, onakvo, bla bla :zzzz:
Ali ako je to Barcelona i Pep, ma jok, to je ok, ne treba ni kazna... 8-)
Iste arsine za sve :oops:
Pa oni su dobili novcane kazne, a ovome hoce utakmicu neigranja...
Pravedno ? cccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
Gdje sam ja rekao da treba da Iniesta dobije drugaciju kaznu?! Samo sam kometarisao da se to ne gleda istim ocima kad je u pitanju Real i kad je u pitanju Barcelona.
Ponavljam, iste arsine, nije bitno ko je u pitanju.
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505sCrtom wrote:

Niko nikada kao Puyol.Njegov dres nedam ni za kucu :D
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Zna li neko da li ce se u nekom od lokala u gradu moci pogledati sutrasnje finale?
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Korisnicko ime wrote:Zna li neko da li ce se u nekom od lokala u gradu moci pogledati sutrasnje finale?
Varadero :oops:
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#657 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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Mourinho u finalima kao trener: 12 pobjeda - 5 izgubljenih. Guardiola: 6 pobjeda - 0 izgubljenih.
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#659 Irréel Madrid

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#661 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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@rashtiman:

Barcina je logika, da UEFA ne moze sa sigurnoscu tvrditi da je Iniesta namjerno zaradio taj zuti karton. Ja mislim da ce mu skinuti tu zabranu, (ili ce je mozda zamjeniti sa novcanom).
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#662 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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Ovo je još uvijek samo prijedlog, nije odluka... tako da je Barca malo preuranila sa žalbom.
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#663 Real Madrid's top tips

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By Eduardo Alvarez

The first and arguably least important of the four almost consecutive derbies is over. However, this intense match provided us with significant pointers for the upcoming battles between the top two clubs in Spain.

1) Jose Mourinho's tactics implicitly prove his belief that Real Madrid can't beat Barcelona at their own game. Not since Van Gaal's Ajax bagged a famous victory in 1995 had the Madridistas seen a first half with less possession at the Bernabeu. The Portuguese manager started the match with Pepe in a defensive midfield role, his answer to the Madridistas' difficulties to contain not only Lionel Messi, but also the runs of Xavi and Iniesta. This decision worked well defensively, especially because of Pepe's fiery and, at times, almost reckless defensive performance. However, this tactical disposition hampered Real Madrid's ability to keep the ball and build attacks from the back, given that it was German playmaker Mesut Ozil that missed out to allow Pepe to play in midfield.

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2) The Real Madrid line-up was reminiscent of Dunga's Brazil (2006-2010), with its advantages as well as its downfalls. In the plus category, this squad formation possesses huge physical power, are more comfortable off the ball - a good thing when playing against Barcelona - become very dangerous in open space and constantly threaten to score from set pieces, another valuable asset when facing the clearly shorter Azulgrana. We could say that Mourinho has finally put together an anti-Barcelona approach, making the most out of the Catalan's weaknesses. But don't expect this Real Madrid side to keep possession, build a chance to score passing from the back or dominate the flow of play for long spells against Barca.

Similarly to what happened to Brazil under Dunga, one could believe that most Merengues supporters would be strongly against such pragmatic tactics by Mourinho after a whole lifetime of Real Madrid teams that dominated possession and never waited for their arch-rivals in their own half. Nothing could be further from the truth, if one has to judge by the Bernabeu's reaction on Saturday night. As my neighbour Juan, a season ticket holder for over 20 years, bluntly put it as we listened to the line-ups at the start of the match: "We don't want them to score five again, do we?" Pep Guardiola's Barca and the Special One have teamed up to turn 66,000 faithful socios into an army of cynics.

3) Mourinho's plan-B brought new life to the Madridistas, especially in attack. The Portuguese boss, with three creative substitutions, altered his team's disposition with a second unit reminiscent of the Javier Clemente years with the Spanish national team. Mesut Ozil, the Real Madrid equivalent of Clemente's Jose Luis Perez Caminero, shone in the second half, taking advantage of a less dynamic Barcelona midfield and finding plenty of space to link up with Cristiano Ronaldo and Emmanuel Adebayor. This second unit recovered the spark and played Barcelona as equals in attack, despite their numerical inferiority, although they conceded precious space at the back.

4) Even if Mourinho seems to have found a way to compete against Pep's team, the Catalans are still a superior side. After Messi scored from the spot and with a ten-man Real Madrid looking like a groggy boxer, Barcelona surprisingly took the foot off the gas. On at least four occasions either Xavi or Iniesta decided against a seemingly killer through-ball in order to retain possession, as though satisfied with the short but significant win. When Cristiano Ronaldo levelled, the Catalans took more risks to finish the match off, but a clearly distraught David Villa was wasteful in front of goal. On Saturday night, Barcelona gave away what could have been a psychologically defining win for the remaining derbies.

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5) Even in the least relevant of the four derbies, pressure proved unbearable for some. Pep Guardiola needlessly gambled on Carles Puyol's match fitness, putting at stake the centre-back's presence in the Copa del Rey final. Raúl Albiol gave away one of the most bizarre penalties seen in a derby, which could cost him dear with Jose Mourinho, who is not a big fan of the former Valencia player in the first place. Some players' constant arguing with the referee looked extremely exaggerated, and should have resulted in a flurry of yellow cards. And, of course, the pressure on the referee exceeded acceptable levels, both on and off the pitch. But this is what derbies are like, right? Expect more surprising decisions and reactions from the main characters in the next three weeks.

6) The Copa del Rey final should go down to the wire. Dunga's, er ... Mourinho's new anti-Barcelona approach is still not totally proven, which, coupled with Albiol's absence and the subsequent need to reconfigure the back four, still gives the advantage to the Blaugrana, right now a far more accomplished side. However, this new tactical approach did keep Barcelona out of their usual scoring positions for most of the match, while the Merengues physical advantage at set pieces created some risky situations for Victor Valdes. The fact that they fought for and eventually achieved a draw with ten men also reinforces the team have recovered psychologically from the 5-0 thrashing earlier in the season. Most Madridistas, including a decent amount of players, believe the Copa to be their best bet to win a title, as in one single match they stand a better chance to contain the Azulgrana's attack and make the most out of their opportunities. We'll only have to wait until Wednesday to find out. link
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#664 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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ultima_palabra wrote:Ovo je još uvijek samo prijedlog, nije odluka... tako da je Barca malo preuranila sa žalbom.
"Barcelona have decided to appeal UEFA's proposal to ban Andres Iniesta for one Champions League match for deliberately collecting a yellow card." link
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#665 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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Dobar članak... ovo mi je zapalo za oko.
2) The Real Madrid line-up was reminiscent of Dunga's Brazil (2006-2010), with its advantages as well as its downfalls. In the plus category, this squad formation possesses huge physical power, are more comfortable off the ball - a good thing when playing against Barcelona - become very dangerous in open space and constantly threaten to score from set pieces, another valuable asset when facing the clearly shorter Azulgrana. We could say that Mourinho has finally put together an anti-Barcelona approach, making the most out of the Catalan's weaknesses. But don't expect this Real Madrid side to keep possession, build a chance to score passing from the back or dominate the flow of play for long spells against Barca.

Similarly to what happened to Brazil under Dunga, one could believe that most Merengues supporters would be strongly against such pragmatic tactics by Mourinho after a whole lifetime of Real Madrid teams that dominated possession and never waited for their arch-rivals in their own half. Nothing could be further from the truth, if one has to judge by the Bernabeu's reaction on Saturday night. As my neighbour Juan, a season ticket holder for over 20 years, bluntly put it as we listened to the line-ups at the start of the match: "We don't want them to score five again, do we?" Pep Guardiola's Barca and the Special One have teamed up to turn 66,000 faithful socios into an army of cynics.
Sjećam se 2002. i polufinala CL između ovih timova, kada je Madrid imao dosta bolji tim i neke od najboljih igrača na svijetu... i tada je Barca imala 60tak posto posjeda lopte u obje utakmice. Doduše, kretanje rezultata je uslovljavalo takvu igru, ali ne sjećam se da se iko žalio na Del Bosqueov pristup.
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#666 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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Iniesta nije imao razlog da pravi namjerni žuti karton. To je čista logika.

Mogao je jednostavno propustiti uzvrat u Ukrajini i onaj prvi žuti karton bi mu se poništio, kao i svima ostalim pred polufinalne mečeve.
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juventus wrote:Iniesta nije imao razlog da pravi namjerni žuti karton. To je čista logika.

Mogao je jednostavno propustiti uzvrat u Ukrajini i onaj prvi žuti karton bi mu se poništio, kao i svima ostalim pred polufinalne mečeve.
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#668 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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@ultima_palabra:

Procitaj i ove clanke ako ti nije mrsko. Mourinho masterclass? La Liga - Mourinho faces tactical dilemma
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#669 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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Nova Adidasova reklama
„Prepucavanje“ fudbalera Barce i Reala uoči finala

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#670 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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Hvala 505... Phil Ball uz Sida Lowea ima najbolje članke o Primeri na engleskom (mada su komentari ispod katastrofa).
Ovaj članak na Eurosportu je dosta površan.
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#671 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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Sad u finalu kupa ce biti rat na terenu, sasvim druga prica za razliku od prošlog derbija i uspavanke u vecini utakmice.
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#672 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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Kazu ...dobar Pepe.. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Samo kad se sjetim ovoga... i vidim debila da igra i sada...
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#673 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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Da. Zanimljivo ce biti vidjeti sta je sad Mourinho smislio, ali sigurno nece biti isto kao u subotu. S druge strane i Barcelona ce uci u utakmicu puno motiviranije. Jedino dobra strategija moze Madridu donijeti pehar. Ono sto tu utakmicu moze napraviti zanimljivom je da Barca povede 2:0 u prvih 25 minuta. Ili 0:0 do 119. minute. Ali, to bas i nije neka alternativa.
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#674 Re: Barça-Madrid (El Clásicos)

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tzipiripi wrote:Sport Klub
Šakira nastupa pred finale

"El Klasiko" groznica polako, ali sigurno drma Evropu, a Španiju, naravno, najjačom žestinom. Za sredu je zakazan prvi okršaj dva španska giganta koji će direktno odlučiti osvajača prvog pehara u sezoni - finale Kupa Kralja. Domaćin finala biće stadion "Mestalja" u Valensiji, a samoj utakmici prethodiće uvodni program garniran muzičkim sadržajem.

Specijalni gost biće svetska zvezda Šakira, koja će izvesti nekoliko njenih hit-numera, a pratiće je i neki manje poznati izvođači. Lepa Kolumbijka će se posle nastupa verovatno zadržati na stadionu, iako nije veliki ljubitelj fudbala. Razlog je, naravno, taj što je od nedavno u vezi sa defanzivcem Barselone Džerardom Pikeom.

Skoro ceo dan finala biće na Sport Klubu posvećen tom spektaklu na Mestalji. Meč počinje u 21.30, a naš program pred El Klasiko u 14.00
jeli na sport klub HR
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#675 Barça (cup final)

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Valdes Pinto Alves Pique Puyol Milito Fontas Adriano
Maxwell Mascherano Busquets Xavi Keita Thiago Iniesta Afellay
Pedro Messi Villa Jeffren
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