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handžar88 wrote:@Čeli
Pa ne znam onda sta hoces da kazes, da nije ubijen ogroman broj civila tada, bespotrebno.. pusti ti te druge zlocince sad nisu tema.. slobodno nazovi Hafeza istim tim imenom, jer to jeste, notorni ubica, klasicni diktator gladan moci.. najveci dokaz za to je sto se na vlasti odrzao do smrti jer drukcije to nije bilo moguce cak i da ga je volio vlastiti narod, pored tolikih neprijatelja izvana..

japin_mutapi wrote:ovaj rat i pobuna je nastavak hame iz 82g
pobuna i nasilje su potpuno logican i prirodan odgovor na nasilje, represiju, diktaturu i teror

tako je bilo uvijek i bice

Challenger__ wrote:

handžar88 wrote:@Čeli
Pa ne znam onda sta hoces da kazes, da nije ubijen ogroman broj civila tada, bespotrebno.. pusti ti te druge zlocince sad nisu tema.. slobodno nazovi Hafeza istim tim imenom, jer to jeste, notorni ubica, klasicni diktator gladan moci.. najveci dokaz za to je sto se na vlasti odrzao do smrti jer drukcije to nije bilo moguce cak i da ga je volio vlastiti narod, pored tolikih neprijatelja izvana..

Hafez je bio apsolutista kao uostalom svi vladari u tadašnjem socijalističkom lageru. On nije moj "cop of tea" ni po kom osnovu. Ne gajim nikakve emocije prema tom čovjeku. Ali, ne može on da bude maska kojom se skriva i pravda jedna pogana, fašistoidna i genocidna ideologija koja je izvršila masakr u Hami, kako nad vojnicima, tako nad civilima.

Da li je reakcija sirijske vojske bila profesionalna, odgovorna ili prekomjerna i neprofesionalna ne znam ali ZNAM da terorističko-ihvanijskoj naraciji o Hami se ne može ništa vjerovati.

Oni i laž su brat i sestra.


Toliko.


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The DIA document, “Syria: Muslim Brotherhood Pressure Intensifies,” was written in May, 1982, three months after the events. Not only does it describe the actions of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood as “terrorism,” it reveals that only two thousand Islamists were killed by the government in Hama.
The DIA report is instructive because it outlines tactics, methods, and narratives used by the Muslim Brotherhood that are similar to ones adopted by militant regime opponents in the Syrian war today.

The sectarian motivations and fundamentalist rationalizations that feed the majority of the armed oppositional groups in Syria had precedents in the riots by the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria starting in 1964. Sunni fundamentalist opposition intensified after March 1973 when reference to Islam as the state religion was discarded by the secular Ba‘thist government in the new constitution. The Muslim Brotherhood’s position considered Assad’s presidency unacceptable because they labeled him a non-Muslim. According to the Muslim Brotherhood: “Islam is the solution” and “Allah is our objective; the Qur’an is the Constitution; the Prophet is our leader; jihad is our way; death for the sake of Allah is our wish.”

Attempting to start a popular revolution to oust Assad – or the illusion of such a revolution – the Muslim Brotherhood attacked the artillery school in Aleppo in June of 1979 and killed fifty ‘Alawite cadets while they were sleeping. There followed a series of armed hit-and-run and bomb attacks against ‘Alawite villages, security targets, Ba‘thist party members, and government officials.

More importantly, and again paralleling their actions in the current war in Syria, the DIA document noted that the Muslim Brotherhood expanded “their covert arm for nonattributable political violence, the Secret Apparatus” around 1964. (p. 1) Subsidiary covert armed groups operated using Islamist names such as The Youth of Muhammad, Soldiers of Allah, Faithful Youth, and Islamic Vanguard, just as contemporary oppositional groups like Jaysh al-Islam, Nur ad-Din Zinki, Fa’istaqim Kama Umirt, Jabhat Ansar al-Islam, Jaysh al-Sunna, and Fath al-Islam adopt names with (Sunni) Islamist credentials

handžar88 wrote:Naravno da on nije maska niti moze biti ovoj drugoj ideologiji o kojoj smo sve rekli hiljadu puta i svima(ko zeli da shvati) je jasno sta je to i sa cim Assad ima posla.. ali zar ne mislis nakon hiljada stranica i postova o toj zloconackoj ideologiji da se treba bar jednom i ova druga strana nazvati pravim imenom.. kad to uradis jednom onda mozes pravdat na taj nacin.

sunceKOtepsija wrote:kanibali od 1960 pokusavaju da razore siriju, ubistva "ne muslimana " 1960ih, nastavak, 1980ih, nastavak 2010ih, isti modus, drugo pakovanje

The DIA document, “Syria: Muslim Brotherhood Pressure Intensifies,” was written in May, 1982, three months after the events. Not only does it describe the actions of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood as “terrorism,” it reveals that only two thousand Islamists were killed by the government in Hama.
The DIA report is instructive because it outlines tactics, methods, and narratives used by the Muslim Brotherhood that are similar to ones adopted by militant regime opponents in the Syrian war today.

The sectarian motivations and fundamentalist rationalizations that feed the majority of the armed oppositional groups in Syria had precedents in the riots by the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria starting in 1964. Sunni fundamentalist opposition intensified after March 1973 when reference to Islam as the state religion was discarded by the secular Ba‘thist government in the new constitution. The Muslim Brotherhood’s position considered Assad’s presidency unacceptable because they labeled him a non-Muslim. According to the Muslim Brotherhood: “Islam is the solution” and “Allah is our objective; the Qur’an is the Constitution; the Prophet is our leader; jihad is our way; death for the sake of Allah is our wish.”

Attempting to start a popular revolution to oust Assad – or the illusion of such a revolution – the Muslim Brotherhood attacked the artillery school in Aleppo in June of 1979 and killed fifty ‘Alawite cadets while they were sleeping. There followed a series of armed hit-and-run and bomb attacks against ‘Alawite villages, security targets, Ba‘thist party members, and government officials.

More importantly, and again paralleling their actions in the current war in Syria, the DIA document noted that the Muslim Brotherhood expanded “their covert arm for nonattributable political violence, the Secret Apparatus” around 1964. (p. 1) Subsidiary covert armed groups operated using Islamist names such as The Youth of Muhammad, Soldiers of Allah, Faithful Youth, and Islamic Vanguard, just as contemporary oppositional groups like Jaysh al-Islam, Nur ad-Din Zinki, Fa’istaqim Kama Umirt, Jabhat Ansar al-Islam, Jaysh al-Sunna, and Fath al-Islam adopt names with (Sunni) Islamist credentials

japin_mutapi wrote:ovaj rat i pobuna je nastavak hame iz 82g
pobuna i nasilje su potpuno logican i prirodan odgovor na nasilje, represiju, diktaturu i teror

tako je bilo uvijek i bice

RepublikanskaGarda wrote:Tigar krenuo prema Al-Babu, nema labavo sa teroristima, iz Allepa takodjer navodno krenule jedinice 4. mehanizirane, takodjer navodno ne tuku rusu nego syaf

sarajevoxxxx wrote:Al Bab: 22 režimska vojnika poginula, 3 Asadovca zarobljena, jedan uništen tenk.

Banda jedna, djecoubice bijedne, koliko su samo nasilja i zla počinili u ovih 6 godina rata. Malo je njima Turska vojska, treba nešto golemo, jednog pravog kabadahiju, zlo u korijenu sasječi, ganjati ih do kraja života, gore nego fašiste nakon Drugog svjetskog rata. Koliko je tu samo obijesti, oholosti, zla, bezobrazluka, da je prosto nevjerovatno.

Kikibombona wrote:Realno, nije lako Turcima sa vjerskim fanaticima i primitivcima. Aj ti njima objasni da su se Erdogan i Asad dogovorili, da su oni tu da slusaju ako zele da prezive!?

Vecina tih 'umjerenjaka' je ponizavana od Alepa, Idliba pa sve do Nubla i Zare. Sigurno ih pucaju strasni kompleksi. I tako, dovoljna je jedna budala medju njima da ispali RPG i da sve ode u kurac.

Asad im gazi bracu po cijeloj Siriji, ponizava ih, a njima Erdo govori da budu mirni. Kako?

I na kraju ce im Turci morati samare dijeliti da se smire, da ne ode sve u pm.

_BataZiv_0809 wrote:Kiki, hoce li Kurdi ici na spajanje sa SAA, vojskom legitimne vlade, istocno od Tadefa ?

handžar88 wrote:Al fakat kako je cika Putin jebo Erdogana s ovim dogovorom.. sta je ova budala dobila sto je dosao do Baba, nema gdje dalje, slijepa ulica.. sad i Assad ima priliku da ga nalupa.. a budala masta o Raqi

Čitalac wrote:

Turski zid prema Siriji fino napreduje. Do sada je, kako javlja Daily Sabah, izgrađeno 290 kilometara, a ukupna dužina zida biće 511 kilometara, uz 260 kilometara puteva.

Krokodajl wrote:A kad se sjetim najava kako će Turci doći Alepu sa leđa i spojiti se sa pobunjenicima u istočnom Alepu

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