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One of the Stories Old Nan told Bran is about the Night's King. She said some people believe the Night's King was a Bolton, a Magnar of Skagos, an Umber, a Flint, a Norrey, or a Woodfoot. However, she identified the Night's King as a Stark of Winterfell and brother to the King of the North, and hints his name was Brandon.

In the TV series, the Night's King reanimates dead men into wights with only his will, and turns Craster's sons into White Walkers with his touch, abilities that have not been specified in the books. In fact, the fate of Craster's sons is still unknown: Old Nan's tales allude to the Others' feeding human children to the wights, or that wildling women lay with White Walkers to make horrible half-Walker babies, etc. Craster's wives do say that they believe that the infant sons that Craster gave the Others as sacrifices were turned into new White Walkers - but it wasn't clear if this is what actually happens, or if it was just the wild suspicion of Craster's frightened, isolated wives. When Samwell Tarly is told to flee with Gilly and her newborn son, Gilly urges that if he doesn't "they" will come for him. When he asks who "they" are, another wife says: "The boy's brothers...Craster's sons. The white cold's rising out there, crow. I can feel it in my bones. These poor old bones don't lie. They'll be here soon, the sons." Confirmation of what exactly happens to Craster's sons has not occurred in the books yet. Given the inaccuracy of Nan's other stories, however, it is apparent that the show's writers felt Craster's wife may have inside information regarding their fates.
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de bidni drug pa prevedi to, hvaaala
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mozda sam skonto a mozda i nisam pa pitam kako ova prica gore ima veze sa jonom?
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mali_balon wrote:The Night’s King lived during the Age of Heroes, not long after the Wall was complete. He was a fearless warrior, who was named the thirteenth Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. Later he fell in love with a woman “with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars”, he chased her and loved her though “her skin was cold as ice,” and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well. He brought her back to the Nightfort and after the unholy union, he declared himself king and her his queen, and ruled the Nightfort as his own castle for thirteen years.

During the dark years of his reign, horrific atrocities were committed, of which tales are still told in the North. It was not until Brandon the Breaker, the King in the North, and Joramun, the King-Beyond-the-Wall, joined forces that the Night’s King was brought down and the Night’s Watch freed. After his fall, when it was discovered that he had been sacrificing to the White Walkers (possibly in similar way to Craster), all records of him were destroyed and his very name was forbidden. It is likely this led the lords of the North to forbid the Night’s Watch to construct walls at their keeps, ensuring the keeps would always be accessible from the south
Nocni kralj (Kralj Noci) je zivjeo u Doba Heroja, ne dugo nakon sto je Zid bio zavrsen. Bio je neustrasiv ratnik, koji je bio imenovan trinaestim Lord Commanderom Nocne Straze. Kasnije, zaljubio se u zenu "sa bijelom kozom poput mjeseca i ocima poput plavih zvijezda", trcao je za njom i volio je iako "je njena koza bila hladna poput leda", i kad joj je podario svoje sjeme dao joj je i svoju dusu. Doveo ju je u Nightfort i poslije nesvetog spajanja, proglasio je sebe kraljem i nju svojom kraljicom, i vladao je Nightfortom kao svojim zamkom 13 godina.

Tokom tamnih godina njegove vladavine, strasni zlocini/zvjerstva su se desili, o kojima se prica jos uvijek na Sjeveru. Nije bilo prije nego su Brandon the Breaker, kralj Sjevera, i Joramun, kralj iza zida, udruzili snage da je Nocni Kralj oboren/pobjedjen i Nocna Straza oslobodjena. Poslije njegovog pada, kada je bilo otkriveno da je on zrtvovao bijelim setacima (vjerovatno na slican nacin kao Craster), svi dokumenti o njemu su bili unisteni i njegovo ime zabranjeno. Vjerovatno da je ovo vodilo lordove Sjevera da zabrane Nocnoj Strazi da gradi zidove na svojim imanjima, da bi se osiguralo da su imanja uvijek pristupacna sa juga.
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mali_balon wrote:One of the Stories Old Nan told Bran is about the Night's King. She said some people believe the Night's King was a Bolton, a Magnar of Skagos, an Umber, a Flint, a Norrey, or a Woodfoot. However, she identified the Night's King as a Stark of Winterfell and brother to the King of the North, and hints his name was Brandon.

In the TV series, the Night's King reanimates dead men into wights with only his will, and turns Craster's sons into White Walkers with his touch, abilities that have not been specified in the books. In fact, the fate of Craster's sons is still unknown: Old Nan's tales allude to the Others' feeding human children to the wights, or that wildling women lay with White Walkers to make horrible half-Walker babies, etc. Craster's wives do say that they believe that the infant sons that Craster gave the Others as sacrifices were turned into new White Walkers - but it wasn't clear if this is what actually happens, or if it was just the wild suspicion of Craster's frightened, isolated wives. When Samwell Tarly is told to flee with Gilly and her newborn son, Gilly urges that if he doesn't "they" will come for him. When he asks who "they" are, another wife says: "The boy's brothers...Craster's sons. The white cold's rising out there, crow. I can feel it in my bones. These poor old bones don't lie. They'll be here soon, the sons." Confirmation of what exactly happens to Craster's sons has not occurred in the books yet. Given the inaccuracy of Nan's other stories, however, it is apparent that the show's writers felt Craster's wife may have inside information regarding their fates.
Jedna od prica koju je Stara Njegovateljica govorila Bran-u je o Nocnom Kralju (Kralju Noci). Rekla je da neki ljudi vjeruju da je Nocni Kralj bio Bolton, Magnar iz Skagosa, Umber, Flint, Norrey, ili Woodfoot. Ipak, ona je identificirala Nocnog Kralja kao Stark-a iz Winterfell-a i kao brata Kralja Sjevera, i nagovjestila je da je njegovo ime bilo Brandon.

U TV seriji, Nocni Kralj uzdize mrtve ljude u bijele setace samo svojom voljom, i pretvara Crasterove sinove u Bijele Setace svojim dodirom, ovo su sposobnosti koje nisu pominjane u knjigama. Ustvari, sudbina Crasterovih sinova je jos uvijek nepoznata: prica Stare Njegovateljice navodi na "Druge" koji ljudskom djecom hrane Bijele, ili kako su zene divljih ljudi opcile sa Bijelim Setacima da bi napravile strasne pulu-setace. Crasterove zene govore da one vjeruju kako novorodjeni sinovi koje Craster daje Drugima kao zrtve bivaju preobraceni u Bijele Setace - ali nije jasno dali se ovo uistinu dogadja, ili je ovo bila samo divlja sumnja Crasterovih preplasenih, izolovanih zena. Kada se Samwellu Tarly kaze da bjezi sa Gilly i njenim novorodjenim sinom, Gilly ga upozorava da ako on to ne uradi "oni" ce doci po njega. Kad on pita ko su "oni", druga zena/supruga kaze: "djetetova braca.....Crasterovi sinovi. Bijela hladnoce se uspinje tamo, vrano, osjecam to u svojim kostima. Ove stare kosti ne lazu. Oni ce biti ovdje uskoro, sinovi". Potvrda sta se tacno desi Crasterovim sinovima se nije jos uvijek pojavila u knjigama. S obzirom na netacnost Njegovateljicinih drugih prica, vidljivo je da pisci serije osjecaju da Crasterova zena mozda ima unutrasnje/provjerene informacije sta ce biti sa njihovom sudbinom.
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asker wrote:
mali_balon wrote:The Night’s King lived during the Age of Heroes, not long after the Wall was complete. He was a fearless warrior, who was named the thirteenth Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. Later he fell in love with a woman “with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars”, he chased her and loved her though “her skin was cold as ice,” and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well. He brought her back to the Nightfort and after the unholy union, he declared himself king and her his queen, and ruled the Nightfort as his own castle for thirteen years.

During the dark years of his reign, horrific atrocities were committed, of which tales are still told in the North. It was not until Brandon the Breaker, the King in the North, and Joramun, the King-Beyond-the-Wall, joined forces that the Night’s King was brought down and the Night’s Watch freed. After his fall, when it was discovered that he had been sacrificing to the White Walkers (possibly in similar way to Craster), all records of him were destroyed and his very name was forbidden. It is likely this led the lords of the North to forbid the Night’s Watch to construct walls at their keeps, ensuring the keeps would always be accessible from the south
Nocni kralj (Kralj Noci) je zivjeo u Doba Heroja, ne dugo nakon sto je Zid bio zavrsen. Bio je neustrasiv ratnik, koji je bio imenovan trinaestim Lord Commanderom Nocne Straze. Kasnije, zaljubio se u zenu "sa bijelom kozom poput mjeseca i ocima poput plavih zvijezda", trcao je za njom i volio je iako "je njena koza bila hladna poput leda", i kad joj je podario svoje sjeme dao joj je i svoju dusu. Doveo ju je u Nightfort i poslije nesvetog spajanja, proglasio je sebe kraljem i nju svojom kraljicom, i vladao je Nightfortom kao svojim zamkom 13 godina.

Tokom tamnih godina njegove vladavine, strasni zlocini/zvjerstva su se desili, o kojima se prica jos uvijek na Sjeveru. Nije bilo prije nego su Brandon the Breaker, kralj Sjevera, i Joramun, kralj iza zida, udruzili snage da je Nocni Kralj oboren/pobjedjen i Nocna Straza oslobodjena. Poslije njegovog pada, kada je bilo otkriveno da je on zrtvovao bijelim setacima (vjerovatno na slican nacin kao Craster), svi dokumenti o njemu su bili unisteni i njegovo ime zabranjeno. Vjerovatno da je ovo vodilo lordove Sjevera da zabrane Nocnoj Strazi da gradi zidove na svojim imanjima, da bi se osiguralo da su imanja uvijek pristupacna sa juga.
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mali_balon wrote:One of the Stories Old Nan told Bran is about the Night's King. She said some people believe the Night's King was a Bolton, a Magnar of Skagos, an Umber, a Flint, a Norrey, or a Woodfoot. However, she identified the Night's King as a Stark of Winterfell and brother to the King of the North, and hints his name was Brandon.

In the TV series, the Night's King reanimates dead men into wights with only his will, and turns Craster's sons into White Walkers with his touch, abilities that have not been specified in the books. In fact, the fate of Craster's sons is still unknown: Old Nan's tales allude to the Others' feeding human children to the wights, or that wildling women lay with White Walkers to make horrible half-Walker babies, etc. Craster's wives do say that they believe that the infant sons that Craster gave the Others as sacrifices were turned into new White Walkers - but it wasn't clear if this is what actually happens, or if it was just the wild suspicion of Craster's frightened, isolated wives. When Samwell Tarly is told to flee with Gilly and her newborn son, Gilly urges that if he doesn't "they" will come for him. When he asks who "they" are, another wife says: "The boy's brothers...Craster's sons. The white cold's rising out there, crow. I can feel it in my bones. These poor old bones don't lie. They'll be here soon, the sons." Confirmation of what exactly happens to Craster's sons has not occurred in the books yet. Given the inaccuracy of Nan's other stories, however, it is apparent that the show's writers felt Craster's wife may have inside information regarding their fates.
Jedna od prica koju je Stara Njegovateljica govorila Bran-u je o Nocnom Kralju (Kralju Noci). Rekla je da neki ljudi vjeruju da je Nocni Kralj bio Bolton, Magnar iz Skagosa, Umber, Flint, Norrey, ili Woodfoot. Ipak, ona je identificirala Nocnog Kralja kao Stark-a iz Winterfell-a i kao brata Kralja Sjevera, i nagovjestila je da je njegovo ime bilo Brandon.

U TV seriji, Nocni Kralj uzdize mrtve ljude u bijele setace samo svojom voljom, i pretvara Crasterove sinove u Bijele Setace svojim dodirom, ovo su sposobnosti koje nisu pominjane u knjigama. Ustvari, sudbina Crasterovih sinova je jos uvijek nepoznata: prica Stare Njegovateljice navodi na "Druge" koji ljudskom djecom hrane Bijele, ili kako su zene divljih ljudi opcile sa Bijelim Setacima da bi napravile strasne pulu-setace. Crasterove zene govore da one vjeruju kako novorodjeni sinovi koje Craster daje Drugima kao zrtve bivaju preobraceni u Bijele Setace - ali nije jasno dali se ovo uistinu dogadja, ili je ovo bila samo divlja sumnja Crasterovih preplasenih, izolovanih zena. Kada se Samwellu Tarly kaze da bjezi sa Gilly i njenim novorodjenim sinom, Gilly ga upozorava da ako on to ne uradi "oni" ce doci po njega. Kad on pita ko su "oni", druga zena/supruga kaze: "djetetova braca.....Crasterovi sinovi. Bijela hladnoce se uspinje tamo, vrano, osjecam to u svojim kostima. Ove stare kosti ne lazu. Oni ce biti ovdje uskoro, sinovi". Potvrda sta se tacno desi Crasterovim sinovima se nije jos uvijek pojavila u knjigama. S obzirom na netacnost Njegovateljicinih drugih prica, vidljivo je da pisci serije osjecaju da Crasterova zena mozda ima unutrasnje/provjerene informacije sta ce biti sa njihovom sudbinom.
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ja se ponadao pobjedi protiv ww kad je snow rekao noćna stražo za mnom,kad šipak
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sta bi sa wun wunom na kraju?
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asker wrote:
mali_balon wrote:The Night’s King lived during the Age of Heroes, not long after the Wall was complete. He was a fearless warrior, who was named the thirteenth Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. Later he fell in love with a woman “with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars”, he chased her and loved her though “her skin was cold as ice,” and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well. He brought her back to the Nightfort and after the unholy union, he declared himself king and her his queen, and ruled the Nightfort as his own castle for thirteen years.

During the dark years of his reign, horrific atrocities were committed, of which tales are still told in the North. It was not until Brandon the Breaker, the King in the North, and Joramun, the King-Beyond-the-Wall, joined forces that the Night’s King was brought down and the Night’s Watch freed. After his fall, when it was discovered that he had been sacrificing to the White Walkers (possibly in similar way to Craster), all records of him were destroyed and his very name was forbidden. It is likely this led the lords of the North to forbid the Night’s Watch to construct walls at their keeps, ensuring the keeps would always be accessible from the south
Nocni kralj (Kralj Noci) je zivjeo u Doba Heroja, ne dugo nakon sto je Zid bio zavrsen. Bio je neustrasiv ratnik, koji je bio imenovan trinaestim Lord Commanderom Nocne Straze. Kasnije, zaljubio se u zenu "sa bijelom kozom poput mjeseca i ocima poput plavih zvijezda", trcao je za njom i volio je iako "je njena koza bila hladna poput leda", i kad joj je podario svoje sjeme dao joj je i svoju dusu. Doveo ju je u Nightfort i poslije nesvetog spajanja, proglasio je sebe kraljem i nju svojom kraljicom, i vladao je Nightfortom kao svojim zamkom 13 godina.

Tokom tamnih godina njegove vladavine, strasni zlocini/zvjerstva su se desili, o kojima se prica jos uvijek na Sjeveru. Nije bilo prije nego su Brandon the Breaker, kralj Sjevera, i Joramun, kralj iza zida, udruzili snage da je Nocni Kralj oboren/pobjedjen i Nocna Straza oslobodjena. Poslije njegovog pada, kada je bilo otkriveno da je on zrtvovao bijelim setacima (vjerovatno na slican nacin kao Craster), svi dokumenti o njemu su bili unisteni i njegovo ime zabranjeno. Vjerovatno da je ovo vodilo lordove Sjevera da zabrane Nocnoj Strazi da gradi zidove na svojim imanjima, da bi se osiguralo da su imanja uvijek pristupacna sa juga.
Poštujem trud, ali nemoj se više truditi da prevodiš. ;)
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kakavdanakneiskustvu wrote:ja se ponadao pobjedi protiv ww kad je snow rekao noćna stražo za mnom,kad šipak
Ma jok, rano je za nesto takvo, a i bolje je ovako.

Zadnja scena je onako... epska... predje Jon pogledom preko zombija, tisina, niko ne progovara, samo cujes zvuk vesala i tutnji Jonova misao "e sad se mozemo samo jebat`".

U tom momentu on je postao najsvjesniji covjek u Westerosu, drugi nemaju ni predstavu sta im dolazi sa sjevera, kolju se oko prijestolja a ovamo dolazi smrt sa plavim ocima.

Sega mi je onaj lik/statist sa kapuljacom u camcu, nije se ni okrenuo da pogleda zombije :D
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Meni smiješno bi što je čamac čitavu vječnost plovio od obale. :D Kako su mogli znati da zombiji ne mogu plivati? Presmiješno, nigdje adrenalina i želje za preživljavanjem. Idemo da veslamo polako, kako bi Džon bolje osmotrio šta se dešava. :-)
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s druge strane obale stoje zombiji i bića koja oživljavaju zombije.
s druge strane svijeta zmajevi lete
ljudi se ožive iz mrtvih...
yea, it`s`all ok, allright...
Ali što čamac ide sporo...FUCK LOGIC

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Đinajlu wrote:
asker wrote:
mali_balon wrote:The Night’s King lived during the Age of Heroes, not long after the Wall was complete. He was a fearless warrior, who was named the thirteenth Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. Later he fell in love with a woman “with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars”, he chased her and loved her though “her skin was cold as ice,” and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well. He brought her back to the Nightfort and after the unholy union, he declared himself king and her his queen, and ruled the Nightfort as his own castle for thirteen years.

During the dark years of his reign, horrific atrocities were committed, of which tales are still told in the North. It was not until Brandon the Breaker, the King in the North, and Joramun, the King-Beyond-the-Wall, joined forces that the Night’s King was brought down and the Night’s Watch freed. After his fall, when it was discovered that he had been sacrificing to the White Walkers (possibly in similar way to Craster), all records of him were destroyed and his very name was forbidden. It is likely this led the lords of the North to forbid the Night’s Watch to construct walls at their keeps, ensuring the keeps would always be accessible from the south
Nocni kralj (Kralj Noci) je zivjeo u Doba Heroja, ne dugo nakon sto je Zid bio zavrsen. Bio je neustrasiv ratnik, koji je bio imenovan trinaestim Lord Commanderom Nocne Straze. Kasnije, zaljubio se u zenu "sa bijelom kozom poput mjeseca i ocima poput plavih zvijezda", trcao je za njom i volio je iako "je njena koza bila hladna poput leda", i kad joj je podario svoje sjeme dao joj je i svoju dusu. Doveo ju je u Nightfort i poslije nesvetog spajanja, proglasio je sebe kraljem i nju svojom kraljicom, i vladao je Nightfortom kao svojim zamkom 13 godina.

Tokom tamnih godina njegove vladavine, strasni zlocini/zvjerstva su se desili, o kojima se prica jos uvijek na Sjeveru. Nije bilo prije nego su Brandon the Breaker, kralj Sjevera, i Joramun, kralj iza zida, udruzili snage da je Nocni Kralj oboren/pobjedjen i Nocna Straza oslobodjena. Poslije njegovog pada, kada je bilo otkriveno da je on zrtvovao bijelim setacima (vjerovatno na slican nacin kao Craster), svi dokumenti o njemu su bili unisteni i njegovo ime zabranjeno. Vjerovatno da je ovo vodilo lordove Sjevera da zabrane Nocnoj Strazi da gradi zidove na svojim imanjima, da bi se osiguralo da su imanja uvijek pristupacna sa juga.
Poštujem trud, ali nemoj se više truditi da prevodiš. ;)
Eto ti ces mi reci ;-)
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U a pm, jeste i vi stali sad mahane trazit'. Et' sad i camac ide presporo. :roll:

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sizifinho wrote:s druge strane obale stoje zombiji i bića koja oživljavaju zombije.
s druge strane svijeta zmajevi lete
ljudi se ožive iz mrtvih...
yea, it`s`all ok, allright...
Ali što čamac ide sporo...FUCK LOGIC

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Kada bi se u priči odjednom pojavio veliki čekić i lupio po pešes likova, onako, iznebuha, bi li ti i ovi što se vode sličnim argumentom opet rekli, pa jebiga eto imaju zmajovi i zombiji što ne bi mogo i golemi čekić? Hoću reći da je pravdanje nekih mogućih propusta u motivaciji priče takvim argumentima glupo. Zmajovi i zombiji su dio tog svijeta, i mi gledaoci smo ih prihvatili kao takve. S druge strane dio tog svijeta čine i motivi iz našeg svijeta, kao što je gorenavedena želja za održanjem, za opstankom, što je itekako prisutno u seriji. Daklem, pritužba o čamcu je umjesna i uopšte nije u suprotnosti sa jednim fantastičnim svijetom koji ne more pobjeć i od motiva iz "stvarnosti" od kojih očekujemo da budu dosljedni kao što je dosljedno letenje zmaja koji ne leti ko helikopter, već jelte, ko biće koje ima krila.
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#6393 Re: Game of thrones (zabranjeni spoileri!)

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hrastov žižak wrote:Kada bi se u priči odjednom pojavio veliki čekić i lupio po pešes likova, onako, iznebuha, bi li ti i ovi što se vode sličnim argumentom opet rekli, pa jebiga eto imaju zmajovi i zombiji što ne bi mogo i golemi čekić? Hoću reći da je pravdanje nekih mogućih propusta u motivaciji priče takvim argumentima glupo. Zmajovi i zombiji su dio tog svijeta, i mi gledaoci smo ih prihvatili kao takve. S druge strane dio tog svijeta čine i motivi iz našeg svijeta, kao što je gorenavedena želja za održanjem, za opstankom, što je itekako prisutno u seriji. Daklem, pritužba o čamcu je umjesna i uopšte nije u suprotnosti sa jednim fantastičnim svijetom koji ne more pobjeć i od motiva iz "stvarnosti" od kojih očekujemo da budu dosljedni kao što je dosljedno letenje zmaja koji ne leti ko helikopter, već jelte, ko biće koje ima krila.
Dosljednost iz "stvarnosti" se trazi u nekim vecim i ociglednijim stvarima koje trebaju bit' u centru paznje, k'o naprimjer ona glupa bitka izmedju Jamie-a i Sand Snakes, a ne zbog dlake u jajetu oko nekog jebenog camca kojeg niko osim tebe i jos jednog forumasa ne spominje.

Ok, zamisli da je covjek vesl'o citav dan prevozeci masu ljudi sa obale na brodove, i to na zimi koja ne moze bit' gora. Jel' sad mozda zvuci dosljednije? :roll:
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#6394 Re: Game of thrones (zabranjeni spoileri!)

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DON_eARL wrote:Meni smiješno bi što je čamac čitavu vječnost plovio od obale. :D Kako su mogli znati da zombiji ne mogu plivati? Presmiješno, nigdje adrenalina i želje za preživljavanjem. Idemo da veslamo polako, kako bi Džon bolje osmotrio šta se dešava. :-)


i ja to primijetih,nisu vala ni veslali izgleda,gdje li wun wun nestade?
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#6395 Re: Game of thrones (zabranjeni spoileri!)

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još samo sutra i idući ponedjeljak i to je sve do iduće godine?
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#6396 Re: Game of thrones (zabranjeni spoileri!)

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kakavdanakneiskustvu wrote:još samo sutra i idući ponedjeljak i to je sve do iduće godine?
Da :D
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#6397 Re: Game of thrones (zabranjeni spoileri!)

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Kad se pojavi onaj kralj na molu, likovi u camcu prestanu veslat , ako ko nije primjetio :D
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#6398 Re: Game of thrones (zabranjeni spoileri!)

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Po koliko puta vi to jednu te istu epizodu gledate :lol:
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#6399 Re: Game of thrones (zabranjeni spoileri!)

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hrastov žižak wrote: Kada bi se u priči odjednom pojavio veliki čekić i lupio po pešes likova, onako, iznebuha, bi li ti i ovi što se vode sličnim argumentom opet rekli, pa jebiga eto imaju zmajovi i zombiji što ne bi mogo i golemi čekić? Hoću reći da je pravdanje nekih mogućih propusta u motivaciji priče takvim argumentima glupo. Zmajovi i zombiji su dio tog svijeta, i mi gledaoci smo ih prihvatili kao takve. S druge strane dio tog svijeta čine i motivi iz našeg svijeta, kao što je gorenavedena želja za održanjem, za opstankom, što je itekako prisutno u seriji. Daklem, pritužba o čamcu je umjesna i uopšte nije u suprotnosti sa jednim fantastičnim svijetom koji ne more pobjeć i od motiva iz "stvarnosti" od kojih očekujemo da budu dosljedni kao što je dosljedno letenje zmaja koji ne leti ko helikopter, već jelte, ko biće koje ima krila.
nije pritužba uopšte dosljedna jer je očito da ko se na to žali, nije shvatio bit scene.
Da ne bih puno palamudio, ne da mi se, evo kratko objašnjenje.
Čamac je prepunjen, oni veslaju.
Vide da su zombiji stali na obali, sad mogu laganije veslati.
Dođe lik koji diže mrtve. Od šoka svi prestaju veslati.
Dalje, scena može biti POV (point of view) kao što su poglavlja u knjigama napisana. Ne znam kako to do sad niste skontali. Kad Cersei nešto radi, uvijek to logičnije i lakše izgleda kad smo u njenoj perspektivi a ne u perspektivi Jamiea ili Tyriona. Isto tako je i za ovu scenu. Sporo veslanje ili neveslanje su možda prikaz kako je Jonu vrijeme stalo. I to je jedno objašnjenje.
Može se naći uvijek neko objašnjenje, za one što žele da uživaju. Za ove druge, uvijek će se tražit nekakva rupa.
Sad serija ide presporo
Sad glumci glume loše
A kad se tempo digne, onda ide iduća paralela:
Eto zombiji došli baš kad su ih ovi kupili
Čamac se sporo kretao
Kako će div do broda
bla
bla
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#6400 Re: Game of thrones (zabranjeni spoileri!)

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cassius wrote:Kad se pojavi onaj kralj na molu, likovi u camcu prestanu veslat , ako ko nije primjetio :D
A camac plovi kao da ima motor :)
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