shecher wrote:
Boldirano - zato što ponovo nisi pročitao šta sam napisao (po četvrti put ponavljam!), jer da si pročitao znao bi da se ne kažnjava puko napuštanje vjere.
Dalje, pusti se filozofije, nego nam reci (na osnovu svoje statistike koju si ranije postavio/onaj grafikon) - KOLIKO? Ne kol'ko ti računaš, neko zbilja koliko. Da je tako kao što ti govoriš nijedan nemusliman ne bi bio živ u tim zemljama.
Ok buraz, ti zapeo pa zapeo, ko će ti objaviti iz tih zemlja da je pobio te ljude?
Evo malo materijal za razmišljanje:
http://www.fidh.org/IMG/pdf/Rapport_Iran_final.pdf
" ... The present report is based on documented research. The facts and figures in this study are based on reports of the most reliable and non- partisan international human rights organisations, including Amnesty International, FIDH, Hands off Cain and Human Rights Watch (HRW). United Nations sources as well as newspapers published in Iran have also been used. Furthermore, we have used the original Iranian government sources, i.e. the judiciary, the parliament and other state organs, to access laws and regulations applicable in the IRI.
It is unfortunate that, despite repeated requests over the past few years, Iran has not yet allowed FIDH to carry out a fact-finding mission within its borders4. ... (stranica 8 )"
Ne dozvoljava se da se nađu tačni podtaci, jer ...
"Estimates of number of executions since the Islamic revolution
The following table has been compiled mainly based on annual reports issued by Amnesty
International. However, figures from other sources have also been incorporated when available.
Both Amnesty International and other human rights organisations such as Hands Off Cain, that
started publishing its annual reports in 2000, have taken care to note in all their reports that
the klix figures could be much higher. Some reasons for the inaccuracies are as follows:
1. The Iranian authorities
do not publish official figures of executions.
2.
There have been a large number of secret executions.
3. In the absence of officially provided figures, human rights organisations have to confine
themselves to perusing the newspapers to record the executions.
4. The newspapers
do not report all executions and they are occasionally
ordered not to report
them.
5. Information about executions in remote areas and provincial areas is especially hard to
collect.
6. Information was very scant in the first few years after the revolution. (stranica 8 )"
E sada zašto je to tako sami prosudite.
E sad, ono što se posjeduje je ...
"
Offences related to religion
Apostasy44: Article 26 of the Press Code of 1985 expressly states: “Anybody who insults
Islam and its sanctities by means of the press, amounting to apostasy, shall receive the sentence
for apostasy…” However, the applicable IPC
has not defined apostasy nor has it stipulated
any punishment for it. Nevertheless, Article 214 of the Criminal Procedure Code, which has
incorporated the provisions of Article 167 of the Constitution almost verbatim,
has given
judges a free hand45.
Thus, judges have invoked the said Article 214 to mete out the death
sentence in many apostasy cases on the basis of the views of Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder
of the IRI46. In his book, Ayatollah Khomeini declares that only three groups of people are
recognised outside of Islam, who should pay a specific tax, jazieh, if they wish to live under
the Islamic rule: Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians. He expressly declares:
“Nothing shall be accepted from others outside of those three groups but Islam
or death47.”
I šta sada ja tebi da kažem? Ti tražiš cifre o izvršenju smrtne kazne za apostaziju. Ja ti kažem da se izvršava, ti kažeš ne izvršava se. A stanje na terenu sljedeće:
Informacije tražimo, oni nedaju.
Ljudi sakupe nekako, i dokumentuju da se izvršavaju, ti dođeš i kažeš nije tačno, nema dokaza, jer nema tačnih cifara, i niko ne može da da cifre.
Da je sve u svjetu tako jednostavno kako ti misliš.
Ima nemuslimana koji su kao takvi i došli. Ali oni koji odluče da ne budu Muslimani više, mogu da žive u strahu i tajnosti, ili da se pokupe i pobjegnu ili da budu ubijeni. Ukratko to su izbori koje ti ljudi imaju.
pričaš o vlastitom viđenju i mišljenju.
