geralt wrote: ↑08/03/2022 19:51
Amerikanci komentarisu vrijednost zarobljenog ruskog Pantsira:
The fact that one of those, apparently intact, is sitting out there for some Ukrainian farmer to make off with…? That’s flatly terrifying to whoever is running that ADA umbrella, for oh-so-many reasons. First, the system is now unavailable. Second, and probably most important, the COMSEC and IFF data may still be on that thing, intact. That means that Ukraine now has a means of getting inside the Russian ADA networks, and wreaking havoc on anything flying. Hell, with the right guy doing the hacking, I wouldn’t doubt that they couldn’t get in and change IFF id codes such that Russian aircraft were now identified as hostile across the network, which would be ‘effing incredible–They’d be able to watch as the Russian ADA shot down their own aircraft.
If any vehicle was a burnt-out hulk, it should have been that one. Dear God, the freakin’ potential there in terms of just COMSEC having to be redone across the entire force, based on the presumption it’s been compromised. I would lay you long odds that whoever abandoned that thing intact that way probably didn’t “Z” out all the systems…
This is, by the way, an SF teams fantasy accomplishment: Capturing something as networked as this thing is, intact. The fact that it’s sitting there on Twitter? Russian COMSEC security guys should be filling their pants, right about now, and so should the ADA bubbas.
I cannot emphasize enough what a big deal an intact Pantsir with its COMSEC and IFF would be, to the right people. If the Ukrainians can’t take advantage of something like that falling into their laps? They deserve to lose, frankly.
That picture caused literal jaw drop, when I saw it. The implications, past the tires? LOL… Mind-boggling. That’s galactic-level military incompetence, that is. You do not abandon or allow to be abandoned an asset like that.
Vidim svi ignorisu ali ja sam trcao prema kuci da na ovo odgovorim jer ovo je izgleda veoma vazno.
Prvo ovo bih uporedio s Kradjom Enigma Masine u 2 svj ratu.
Ali moc ovog sistema su puno puno gore nego enigma meni se cini. Zarobljavanje ovog sistema u radnom stanju izgleda daje mogucnost Ukrajincima da hakuju kompletni PVO sistem Rusije u Ukrajini i vjerovatno dijelovima Rusije i Bjelorusije jesam li dobro razumio?
Jel to znaci da Ukrajinci mogu krisom koristiti Ruske radare za detekciju pa cak i navodjenje? Jel to znaci da ce moci lokalizovati svaki umrezeni PVO sistem?
Jel to znaci da mogu koordinisano da udaraju po Rusima i uspjesno izbjegnu pa cak manipulacijom sistema ili avionike aviona da se predstave kao ivf friendly?
Pa cak i promjena sifara da se Ruski avioni prebace na Target?
Ovo bi bilo golemo golemo ako je to tako, Rusi bi preko noci mogli da izgube kompletnu vazdusnu superiornost i Ukrajinci bi mogli da rade sta hoce.
Vidjecemo...
Btw, zar upravo zbog tog sistema mreze i mogucnosti Ruske spijunaze prodatih S400 sistema Turskoj, Amerika odbila i odjebala Tursku iz F35 programa?
Ako se dobro sjecam to je glavni razlog zasto Ameri nisu htjeli da daju Turskoj F35 vise jer bi Turski aktivni S400 mogao da aktivno prikuplja sve moguce podatke o F35 i Rusi to ladno iskoriste za poboljsanje sistema preko hakovanja Turskog S400
Btw dje je famozni S400
Ni rijeci o njemu u ovom ratu.
A Ukrajinci uredno balisticke slali u tri navrata na Rusiju
Da se mozda ne plase da im trenutni najveci izvozni adut ne postane staro gvozdje kao i sve ostalo?
Za tih mjesec i po su izgubili manje od 200 vojnika.
