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#5751 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Gor123 wrote:
Pujdo12 wrote:De skidajte ovog dzina 123
Ti meni vise izgledas kao troll, skoro si usao al' ajde.... A sto se tice mene, pratio sam forum ali se nikad nisam uclanio posto sam poprilicno mlad pa nisam bio ni zainteresovan nesto puno, ali eto doslo vrijeme i zato, pa sad zapeo na ovoj temi.
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#5753 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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славянин wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote:
shbc wrote: A bolescure iz insekata? To nista jel?
u Kuranu je rekao med je lijek za ljude...ubacivanje ostalih inseakata u ovu pricu nema smisla.
Lijek u kojem smislu ? Sta lijeci - za sta se klinicki prepisuje med ??
10 Surprising Health Benefits of Honey
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/10 ... y#section9

7 Health Benefits of Manuka Honey, Based on Science
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/ma ... s#section8

Manuka med: Moćno blago koje pomaže i kada antibiotici ne mogu
http://www.antenam.net/razonoda/dom_i_p ... ci-ne-mogu
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#5754 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Smrcak15 wrote:
shbc wrote:Za 1500 godina, jos se ne pojavi niko da tacno prevede Kur'an na bosanski... Al haj na nas, jebo nas, nego na engleski... Dobro je to Allah skontao. Lik izgleda odabrao najtezi moguci jezik za prevesti za objavu cijelom covjecanstvu. Valjda mu nije palo napamet da identicnu stvar izdiktira usput nekom Britancu, Kinezu i Indijcu. Pa em poklopi jos vise ljudi, em zacepi usta svakom ateisti. 4 lika, na 4 kraja svijeta identicne knjige napisali u istom vremenu, a vidjeli ocima nisu jedan drugog.
pa preveo je Mlivo dosta dobro.

http://www.iltizam.org/kuran
Samo se jebiga i on zajebao bas kod te prostrte Zemlje i tepiha.
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Ponavljam : za sta se med prepisuje KLINICKI kao LIJEK - znaci naucno zdravstveno - ne koristi meda jaja od prepelice i djumbira nego za sta se med u bolnici prepisuje kao lijek.
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#5756 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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shbc wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote:
shbc wrote:Za 1500 godina, jos se ne pojavi niko da tacno prevede Kur'an na bosanski... Al haj na nas, jebo nas, nego na engleski... Dobro je to Allah skontao. Lik izgleda odabrao najtezi moguci jezik za prevesti za objavu cijelom covjecanstvu. Valjda mu nije palo napamet da identicnu stvar izdiktira usput nekom Britancu, Kinezu i Indijcu. Pa em poklopi jos vise ljudi, em zacepi usta svakom ateisti. 4 lika, na 4 kraja svijeta identicne knjige napisali u istom vremenu, a vidjeli ocima nisu jedan drugog.
pa preveo je Mlivo dosta dobro.

http://www.iltizam.org/kuran
Samo se jebiga i on zajebao bas kod te prostrte Zemlje.
pa ima i kod njega propusta, to mogu reci nakon sto sma licno uzmem lexikon i prevodim rijeci, gledam sta lexikoni kazu..i onda ti posalije bude jasno da ima fula i kod njega, ali gledano Mlivo je preciznije prevodio iako i on ima gresaka.
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#5757 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Smrcak, kad odgovoris na.pitanje o medu, kontaktiraj Esada Durakovica i/ili Karica i skreni im.paznju na njihove prevode.
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#5758 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Pa kazem ja. Tebi trebamo vjerovati. Ne silnim profesorima i prevodiocima. 1500 godina niko ne zna prevesti Kur'an kako treba. Objava za cijelo covjecanstvo
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#5759 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Nikad ni za sta se med nije koristio jebiga to je onako ba, djaba su ga i ljudi prije 2500 godina koristili i sad ga koriste djaba.

Eto drzali ga i Egipcani daaaavno prije nas
http://www.honeyassociation.com/about-honey/history

Al' eto oni su glupi, retardirani i neuki jbga nisu oni nista uradili za ovu civilizaciju

https://healthywithhoney.com/honey-in-h ... ent-china/

Auuuu, al jbga i kinezi su isti takvi, iako je njihova narodna medicina svjetski poznata po svojoj ljekovitosti.
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#5760 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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славянин wrote:Ponavljam : za sta se med prepisuje KLINICKI kao LIJEK - znaci naucno zdravstveno - ne koristi meda jaja od prepelice i djumbira nego za sta se med u bolnici prepisuje kao lijek.
evo ovo naprimjer

UK hospital uses manuka honey to fight superbug
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=10390675

A British hospital is importing manuka honey in bulk from New Zealand to use on mouth and throat cancer patients after surgery.

Doctors at Christie Hospital in Didsbury, Manchester, said they hoped it would reduce the patients' chances of contracting methicillin-resistant staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) and help to lessen inflammation.
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#5761 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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said they hoped it would reduce

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Smrcak...
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#5762 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Gor123 wrote:Nikad ni za sta se med nije koristio jebiga to je onako ba, djaba su ga i ljudi prije 2500 godina koristili i sad ga koriste djaba.

Eto drzali ga i Egipcani davnoooo prije nas
http://www.honeyassociation.com/about-honey/history

Al' eto oni su glupi, retardirani i neuki jbga nisu oni nista uradili za ovu civilizaciju

https://healthywithhoney.com/honey-in-h ... ent-china/

Auuuu, al jbga i kinezi su isti takvi, iako je njihova narodna medicina svjetski poznata po svojoj ljekovitosti.
A i ti si vala mogao odgovoriti. Sto Allah ne ucini da pcele umiru i kad druge insekte ubodu? Nije bas da smo imuni na njihove bolescure.
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#5763 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Bloo wrote:said they hoped it would reduce

Hoped
Would



Smrcak...
Hope and would
Manuka Honey Being Used by Fresno Hospital
https://manukahoneyusa.com/manuka-honey ... -hospital/


Patients being treated for wounds at the Kaiser Permanente Fresno medical center have experienced first-hand the healing power of Manuka honey. In an interview with ABC 30, Marsha Cortes from Visalia was happy to discuss her recovery from a spill she took on her bike not long ago. “I got tangled up and went over my handle bars; ended up with some good road rash,” Cortes explained.

Her leg took the brunt of the injury and when she went to Kaiser Permanente Fresno for treatment, she was surprised by what the doctor was using – medical-grade honey. The medical center began offering honey therapy two years ago as one of their many wound care options. Unlike some of the other medical treatments the center offers for wound care, honey is considered to be a “natural” antibiotic.

Nancy Jameson, a registered nurse at Kaiser Permanente Fresno, stated that, “It seemed to keep the bacteria away so wounds were not getting infected.” Additionally, medical professionals believe using honey can help speed up the healing process. Cortes can also attest to the speedy recovery honey offers – she had to take photos of her wounds because she couldn’t believe how quickly they were healing.

“The wound was healing quickly, more quickly than the other road rash I had on my elbow,” said Cortes. But, it is important to note that medical-grade honey is not the same sticky substance you get off grocery store shelves. This type of honey is created using Manuka honey, which is exclusively harvested in New Zealand and Australia where honeybees pollinate the tea tree bush.
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#5764 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Smrcak15 wrote:
belfy wrote: da li izbjegavas odgovoriti na pitanja zato sto te je strah ili nesto drugo? opet pricas bez da odgovoris na postavljena pitanja. evo uvecat cu ako nisi iz dva puta shvatio. vidi iznad uvecano. ↑
pa odgovorio sam ti , neznam sta hoces???
izgleda zaista da imas problema sa citanjem i razumijevanjem pitanja. pokusat cu da pojednostavim za tebe:
dakle post je bio ovaj:
belfy wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote:
belfy wrote: svakako da su pitanja tu za evolucioniste, ali evo sam kazes da je moguce da je stvoren od boga kroz mutacije (ovo pod 2). dakle moguce je da nije toliko kompleksan da je morao nastati od jednom, jel tako? (nek ovo stoji kao pitanje br. 1 da ga ne preskocis)
kao sto je moguce moguce da su mutacije dio toga. dakle mutacije mogu biti dio procesa, jel tako? (nek ovo stoji kao pitanje br. 2 da ga ne preskocis)
ma jeste kompleksan ba, naravno da je kompleksan, samo

sto je razlika velika kad tvrdimo mutacije same odradile bez inteligente ruke i navodjenje mutacije gdje stoji iz inteligenti dizajner.

kompleksno je kad imas vise komponenata i cine jednu cjelinu , i ta cjelina odrajuje neke radnje, to je kompleksnost.

nemozemo za jedan kamen na ulici reci da je kompleksna stvar, nego kad vidimo puzle sastavljene to mozemo reci da je komplekksno, tako isto i roboti i motori u celijama.
da li izbjegavas odgovoriti na pitanja zato sto te je strah ili nesto drugo? opet pricas bez da odgovoris na postavljena pitanja. evo uvecat cu ako nisi iz dva puta shvatio. vidi iznad uvecano. ↑
dakle, radi pojednostavljenja evo dva pitanja:
1. da li je moguce da je bog stvorio kinesin "robota" kroz niz koraka, a ne odjednom?
2. da li je moguce da je bog omogucio da mutacije budu dio tog procesa?

nadam se da je sada dovoljno jasno za tebe da mozes dati odgovor za ova dva pitanja.
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#5765 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Što se bolan niste držali onih argumenata za koji zaista ateisti nemaju odgovora? što vam je ovo trebalo? Prava istina je da zaista ne znamo, a da "možda" ima tu istine

I pitam kako ovo pomaže?
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#5766 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Manuka med ili poznatiji kao medihoney je tretiran u farmaceutskim kompanijama,cackan UV svjetlom itd - i to je jedna sorta meda koja dolazi sa Novog Zelanda... sada posto ti spominjes konstantno rijecnik,prevode itd. Ponavljam - med je klinicki lijek za sta ?? Za hepatitis,Sidu,rak ili neku od ostalih milion bolesti - kontas lijek primjenis i on otkloni problem.Pa antibiotici su 100000x vazniji i koriste se u lijecenju svega i svacega - gdje je spomen u Kuranu ima li sta u siframa. Pomazu i i jaja od prepelice,maslinovo ulje , caj .. bla bu.


Da dodam da si u drugom linku (u prvom se spominje nada i itd :D ) postavio izvor koji reklamira upotrebu medhoneya- to kao da si postavio link na stranicu mcdonaldsa o koristima Big maca.
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#5767 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Kako to vi ateisti da neznate da je med lijek za covjeka jedan nepismeni Muhammed da zna :-)

16:69 zatim, hrani se svakovrsnim plodovima, pa onda idi stazama Gospodara svoga, poslušno!' Iz utroba njihovih izlazi piće različitih boja koje je lijek ljudima. To je, uistinu, dokaz za ljude koji razmišljaju
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#5768 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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belfy wrote: dakle, radi pojednostavljenja evo dva pitanja:
1. da li je moguce da je bog stvorio kinesin "robota" kroz niz koraka, a ne odjednom?
2. da li je moguce da je bog omogucio da mutacije budu dio tog procesa?

nadam se da je sada dovoljno jasno za tebe da mozes dati odgovor za ova dva pitanja.
1. da

2. Da
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#5769 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Smrcak15 wrote:
Bloo wrote:said they hoped it would reduce

Hoped
Would



Smrcak...
Hope and would
Manuka Honey Being Used by Fresno Hospital
https://manukahoneyusa.com/manuka-honey ... -hospital/


Patients being treated for wounds at the Kaiser Permanente Fresno medical center have experienced first-hand the healing power of Manuka honey. In an interview with ABC 30, Marsha Cortes from Visalia was happy to discuss her recovery from a spill she took on her bike not long ago. “I got tangled up and went over my handle bars; ended up with some good road rash,” Cortes explained.

Her leg took the brunt of the injury and when she went to Kaiser Permanente Fresno for treatment, she was surprised by what the doctor was using – medical-grade honey. The medical center began offering honey therapy two years ago as one of their many wound care options. Unlike some of the other medical treatments the center offers for wound care, honey is considered to be a “natural” antibiotic.

Nancy Jameson, a registered nurse at Kaiser Permanente Fresno, stated that, “It seemed to keep the bacteria away so wounds were not getting infected.” Additionally, medical professionals believe using honey can help speed up the healing process. Cortes can also attest to the speedy recovery honey offers – she had to take photos of her wounds because she couldn’t believe how quickly they were healing.

“The wound was healing quickly, more quickly than the other road rash I had on my elbow,” said Cortes. But, it is important to note that medical-grade honey is not the same sticky substance you get off grocery store shelves. This type of honey is created using Manuka honey, which is exclusively harvested in New Zealand and Australia where honeybees pollinate the tea tree bush.
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#5770 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Smrcak15 wrote:Kako to vi ateisti da neznate da je med lijek za covjeka jedan nepismeni Muhammed da zna :-)

16:69 zatim, hrani se svakovrsnim plodovima, pa onda idi stazama Gospodara svoga, poslušno!' Iz utroba njihovih izlazi piće različitih boja koje je lijek ljudima. To je, uistinu, dokaz za ljude koji razmišljaju
Kako jedan nepismeni Muhamed znao poslije Kineza...rimljana...grka....
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Bloo wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote:
Bloo wrote:said they hoped it would reduce

Hoped
Would



Smrcak...
Hope and would
Manuka Honey Being Used by Fresno Hospital
https://manukahoneyusa.com/manuka-honey ... -hospital/


Patients being treated for wounds at the Kaiser Permanente Fresno medical center have experienced first-hand the healing power of Manuka honey. In an interview with ABC 30, Marsha Cortes from Visalia was happy to discuss her recovery from a spill she took on her bike not long ago. “I got tangled up and went over my handle bars; ended up with some good road rash,” Cortes explained.

Her leg took the brunt of the injury and when she went to Kaiser Permanente Fresno for treatment, she was surprised by what the doctor was using – medical-grade honey. The medical center began offering honey therapy two years ago as one of their many wound care options. Unlike some of the other medical treatments the center offers for wound care, honey is considered to be a “natural” antibiotic.

Nancy Jameson, a registered nurse at Kaiser Permanente Fresno, stated that, “It seemed to keep the bacteria away so wounds were not getting infected.” Additionally, medical professionals believe using honey can help speed up the healing process. Cortes can also attest to the speedy recovery honey offers – she had to take photos of her wounds because she couldn’t believe how quickly they were healing.

“The wound was healing quickly, more quickly than the other road rash I had on my elbow,” said Cortes. But, it is important to note that medical-grade honey is not the same sticky substance you get off grocery store shelves. This type of honey is created using Manuka honey, which is exclusively harvested in New Zealand and Australia where honeybees pollinate the tea tree bush.
Erm ogrebala.koljeno padom s bicikla.
OGREBALA.KOLJENO NA.ASFALT SMRLE!!!!!!
da da, a kao nemoze se rana inficirati i napraviti belaj insanu??? pa makar to bilo i pad sa bicikla, ako sprijeci infekciju , znaci lijek je.

stani malo , jeli to hoces da me ubijedis da med nije lijek, a bolnice koriste med u razlicitim kao sto vidis situacijama
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#5772 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Smrcak15 wrote:Kako to vi ateisti da neznate da je med lijek za covjeka jedan nepismeni Muhammed da zna :-)

16:69 zatim, hrani se svakovrsnim plodovima, pa onda idi stazama Gospodara svoga, poslušno!' Iz utroba njihovih izlazi piće različitih boja koje je lijek ljudima. To je, uistinu, dokaz za ljude koji razmišljaju
To samo on zna jer u medicini med se ne smatra lijekom ni za jednu bolest - doduse ima i tajnu tehniku umakanja muha - zamisli tog “ lijeka” kad kombinujes umakanje muhe u vodu i med , pa invalidu noga izraste odmah.
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#5773 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Smrcak15 wrote:
da da, a kao nemoze se rana inficirati i napraviti belaj insanu??? pa makar to bilo i pad sa bicikla, ako sprijeci infekciju , znaci lijek je.

stani malo , jeli to hoces da me ubijedis da med nije lijek, a bolnice koriste med u razlicitim kao sto vidis situacijama
Naravno da.moze. :mrgreen:
I onda odes u bolnicu i trazis Manuca honey jer kao sto pise...NIJE OBICNI.MED. ..jbg daj bivacin
jarane znas li ti engleski
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#5775 Re: Ateizam vs. Religija

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Egipcani, Grci, Rimljani...dalje...
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