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smayo wrote:babo je poceo biznis za vrijeme prohibicije. ostalo se odnosilo na JFK.
Pa ti samo rece kako je JFK bolovao od opake bolesti pa se drogirao? I zbog toga je mafijas? :shock:
Daj jos nesto.
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Ja mislio da je to sve opste poznato. Eto trebao sam u tefter biljeziti.
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smayo wrote:Ja mislio da je to sve opste poznato. Eto trebao sam u tefter biljeziti.
Pa ja jebo ga ja nista nam nisi konkretno reko a uletio sa bombasticnim 'kennedy je mafijas'. :roll:
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McCain courts the grey vote as Giuliani's hopes fade fast

Toby Harnden in Lady Lake, Florida
January 30, 2008

JOHN McCAIN was hoping to win the knife-edge Florida primary with help from a group he once mocked: residents of retirement communities.

More than two decades ago Senator McCain made an ill-advised quip that Leisure World in Arizona should be renamed "Seizure World" and was a place where 97 per cent of the people voted and "the other 3 per cent were in intensive care".

Now 71 and vying to be the oldest American president yet, he finds himself in the same age group as the butts of his joke. Polls show the Arizona senator and Mitt Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, locked together in Florida, where the winner from today's primary vote will enjoy a powerful boost before next week's "Super Tuesday", when 21 states will vote for Republicans.

Rudy Giuliani, once the national frontrunner, trails a distant third in opinion polls, signalling an end to his attempt in the state on which he banked everything after ducking the first six contests.

Among Senator McCain's targets in the final hours of the Florida race were the state's "snowbirds" - elderly New Yorkers who have retired to the south and were heavily backing Mr Giuliani, a former mayor of the Big Apple.

At a rally in Lady Lake the crowd formed a sea of white hair. "This is Disneyland for old guys," said Tom Lane, 69, who, like Senator McCain, was a jet pilot in the Vietnam war.

Senator McCain praised the many retired military veterans who were there, asking them to "raise your hand or stand, depending on how it is".

One woman told him: "I just wanted to say to everybody who thinks you are too old that you look great, you sound great and you will last another eight years."

Senator McCain's allies cite his age and experience as a bonus but the Romney camp is doing its best to portray him as a has-been.

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Gotovo je ovo, McCain veceras uzeo Floridu sa 36% boba, Romney je bio drugi sa 31%.

Ali zbog posebnog sistema na Fl sve bobe (57 boba) idu pobjedniku.
CNN javio da Giuliani odustaje od trke i da ce podrzati sutra zvanicno McCaina. Vidjecemo, ali mislim da je ovo vec gotova prica - McCain ce biti kandidat Republikanaca.

Hillary je veceras uzela Floridu sa solidnim vodjstvom, ali nece dobiti nikakve bobe, mada siguran sam iskoristice ovu 'pobjedu' da se reklamira.

Kako sada stvari stoje lose se pise Obami za sedam dana, u velikoj vecini drzava koje glasaju tada (ukljucujuci Californiju, New York, New Jersey i Massachusetts) Clintonova vodi sa 10-15% glasova u svim anketama. Obama jedino vodi u svom Illinoisu, i malim Georgiji i Coloradu. Obama se nadao da ce mu pobjeda iz SC donjeti vecu podrsku u ostalim drzavama, ali za sada i dalje Clintonova ostake ubjedljivo prva. Ostaje jos ovih 7 dana da se nesto znacajno promjeni.
Inace, velike su sanse da vec nakon sljedeceg utorka bude jasno da ce Clinton i McCain biti i zvanicni kandidati dvije stranke na predstojecim izborima.
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klintonovi mi se gade radi strategije igranja na rasu. Sta sve nisu spremni uraditi da dovesdu kucku u ofis tito mili. Ja se nadam da ce ankete kao po obicaju biti u krivu i ovaj put :D:D:D:D
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Evo sad kazu i Edwards ce napustiti trku...objavit ce valjda oko 1 u new orleansu. :-) :-) :-)
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To Edwardse kralju :)

Frisko sa CNNa:

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Former Sen. John Edwards dropped out of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination on Wednesday.

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"It is time for me to step aside so that history can blaze its path," Edwards said in New Orleans, the same city where he first declared his run for the 2008 Democratic presidential race.

With his wife, Elizabeth, and children at his side, Edwards said he couldn't predict "who will take the final steps to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.," but he said it would be a Democrat.

"We must do better if we want to live up to the promise of this country we love so much," he said.

Earlier, an Edwards aide said the candidate was not getting the media attention he needed to get his message out and win delegates, especially with races coming up in 22 states next Tuesday.

Edwards has amassed 26 delegates for the Democratic nomination.

Campaign money was not an issue, the aide said


Edwards has trailed Sens. Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois in the early contests, including a third-place finish in Tuesday's Florida primary with 14 percent of the votes. He also came in third in key races in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

An aide said Edwards does not plan to endorse either Clinton or Obama at this time but he may do so in the future.

Edwards said he has spoken with Obama and Clinton and received their pledge to make poverty a top issue of their campaigns and -- if either reaches the White House -- a central part of their administration.

Reacting earlier to Edwards' plans, Obama praised his former rival.

"At a time when our politics is too focused on who's up and who's down, he made a nation focus again on who matters -- the New Orleans child without a home, the West Virginia miner without a job, the families who live in that other America that is not seen or heard or talked about by our leaders in Washington," Obama said Wednesday.

Clinton called Edwards a champion of the American people.

"John Edwards ended his campaign today in the same way he started it -- by standing with the people who are too often left behind and nearly always left out of our national debate," Clinton said in a statement.

Some political pundits predict Edwards' supporters are more likely to lean in Obama's direction.

"The conventional wisdom is that Barack Obama will pick up maybe 60 percent of them, and in some places, that makes a huge difference," former presidential adviser David Gergen said.

Time magazine journalist Joe Klein said, "I don't think he endorses Hillary Clinton. The question is whether or not he endorses Barack Obama."

Klein contends that Clinton "represents a lot of the things that [Edwards] campaigned against, you know, the old Washington Democratic establishment that he believes got too close to the corporations in the '90s."



UUUU da li je ovo vise boba za Obamu???? Vecina analiticara je i ranije predvidjala da je to tako.

Btw, najfriskija anketa (objavljena danas) u Connecticutu, drzavi u kojoj je Hillary do prije 7 dana derala guzove Obami sa 20%+ boba, stavlja Clintonovu i Obamu potpuno izjednacene 40%-40%, sa Edwardsom na 11%.
Da li je Connecticut, koji je prakticno 'predgradje' Hillarinog NYC pokazatelj tektonskih izmjena u volji javnog mijenja? Jos kad uzmemo u obzir da je danas Pretty Boy ispao iz trke stvari izgledaju mnogo bolje za Obamu. :) :) :razz:
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Doduse u Californiji je danas izasla friska anketa gdje Clintonova i dalje ima znacajnu prednost (49% u odnosu na Obaminih 38%, sa Edwardsom koji ima 9%). Damn Latinos!!! :D

U Demokratskim prajmariz za razliku od Republikanskih nece biti "winner-takes-all" sistema (kao za Reps na Floridi), tako da ako Clintonova i Obama budu blizu u ovim vecim drzavama trka ce se nastaviti i poslije Super Tuesday.

Uzbudljivo, zar ne? :P
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Šeha wrote:
jeza u ledja wrote: Da li je Connecticut, koji je prakticno 'predgradje' Hillarinog NYC pokazatelj tektonskih izmjena u volji javnog mijenja? Jos kad uzmemo u obzir da je danas Pretty Boy ispao iz trke stvari izgledaju mnogo bolje za Obamu. :) :) :razz:
Necemo se vrijedjat' sad :D :)
Dobro, Djulijanijevog NYC. :D
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taj edwards, njemu da je se pozicije dočepat, ko da gledam da će se opet naturat da bude vice, a vala dosadan je brate
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karabaja-x wrote:taj edwards, njemu da je se pozicije dočepat, ko da gledam da će se opet naturat da bude vice, a vala dosadan je brate
Ma nemoj, e sad bi ti on rekao: "And what about the New Orleans child without a home, the West Virginia miner without a job, the families who live in that other America, and blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah" :D
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Doduse procitah i ovo:

Four in 10 Edwards supporters said their second choice in the race is Clinton, while a quarter prefer Obama, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo poll conducted late this month.

:-?
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Obama kralj....Jer jednostavno kronologija
BUSH
CLINTON
BUSH
I sad opet Clinton ne bi valjala pa najbolje bi bilo da onda onaj mladji bush koji je neki k. u floridi poslije Hillary pa tako dalje....
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ht_90 wrote:Obama kralj....Jer jednostavno kronologija
BUSH
CLINTON
BUSH
I sad opet Clinton ne bi valjala pa najbolje bi bilo da onda onaj mladji bush koji je neki k. u floridi poslije Hillary pa tako dalje....
mladji bush je samo kurac u floridi. Bio je guverner, nije vise :D:D:D
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...pa onda twin sisters Bush, po prvi put in US history blizanci da vladaju... :D
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Šeha wrote:
pitt wrote:
mladji bush je samo kurac u floridi. Bio je guverner, nije vise :D:D:D

I onda poslije njega Chelsea :D :) :D ;)
a kad ces ti seha sa bloombergovom jahacicom ujahati u bijelu kucu :D:D
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Evo ga, kaJu ovi amerikanci danas da je Hillary - Obama bare-bare. Svega mi jos ce je uzeti lik. Jos me bas onako zanima sta ce se desiti nakon 02/02 kada cijeli svijet organizuje mitinge podrske Obami o cemu mozete naci i jedan fini postic na blob.blogger.ba

Mali update: veceras im je finalna debata na CNN-u u 8.00 ET
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Evo procitah da NYP podrzava Obamu a ne Hillary...
Novine iz Clinton-ovog rodnog grada podrzavaju Obamu...
Arnie pruzijo podrsku McCain-u...

Dramaturgija - prva liga.... :D

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The New York Post has delivered a qualified endorsement of Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, snubbing Hillary Clinton, its hometown US senator.

Ahead of next Tuesday's slew of primaries in 22 states, the conservative tabloid owned by Rupert Murdoch said "Obama represents a fresh start".

"We urge (voters) to choose Obama-- an untried candidate, to be sure, but preferable to the junior senator from New York," the paper said referring to Clinton.

The paper said it was not eager for a reprise of the scandal-plagued era of President Bill Clinton, and suggested the former first lady would offer more of the same.

The Post wrote it was reluctant to return to "the opportunistic, scandal-scarred, morally muddled years of the almost infinitely self-indulgent Clinton co-presidency".

The newspaper did not endorse Obama without some reluctance, however.

"For all his charisma and his eloquence, (Obama) sorely lacks seasoning. And on national security, his world view is beyond naive - blithely unware that America must defend itself against those sworn to destroy the nation.

"But he remains a highly intelligent man, with a strong record as a conciliator. And, again, he is not Team Clinton. That counts for a very great deal."

The daily's upscale rival, The New York Times earlier this week endorsed Clinton in the Democratic race.

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Sa usa.electionpolls.com:


Barack Obama may be down 12% in New York according to Publicy Policy Polling but he was down 28% a week ago according to Datamar. Promising for Obama is that he has a lot of room for growth considering John Edwards has dropped out and the fact that he was not polling specifically well among African Americans -- room for growth. The Georgia and Tennessee polls suggest tight races as well. And nationally, Obama is down 6% while he was down double digits a week ago.

According to the Democratic national poll by USA Today/Gallup Poll:

Barack Obama has now cut the gap with Hillary Clinton to 6 percentage points among Democrats nationally in the Gallup Poll Daily tracking three-day average, and interviewing conducted Tuesday night shows the gap between the two candidates is within a few points. Obama's position has been strengthening on a day-by-day basis. As recently as Jan. 18-20, Clinton led Obama by 20 points. Today's Gallup Poll Daily tracking is based on interviews conducted Jan. 27-29, all after Obama's overwhelming victory in South Carolina on Saturday. Two out of the three nights interviewing were conducted after the high-visibility endorsement of Obama by Sen. Edward Kennedy and his niece Caroline Kennedy.

Clinton's lead in the three-day average is now 42% to Obama's 36%. John Edwards, who dropped out of the race Wednesday after Gallup conducted these interviews, ended his quest for the presidency with 12% support. Wednesday night's interviewing will reflect the distribution of the vote choice of former Edwards' supporters as well as the impact, if any, of Hillary Clinton's popular vote win in Florida on Tuesday.

According to the Democratic California poll by Rasmussen Reports:

Obama had a narrow 43% to 41% advantage among the party’s liberal voters while Clinton held a 45% to 35% edge among moderate voters.

Obama held a three-point lead among white voters in the state while Clinton had a twenty-seven point lead among Hispanic voters.

Clinton trailed by eight points among men but led by ten among women.

Obama is viewed favorably by 83% of California’s Democratic Primary Voters, Clinton by 79%.

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of the state’s voters were certain they had settled on their final choice. That meant nearly a third could still change their mind, a figure that grew when Edwards left the race.

Forty-six percent (46%) said the top voting issue is the economy while 29% mentioned the War in Iraq. Clinton led by fifteen among those who view the economy as the highest priority. Obama led by eight among those who view the War as the top voting issue.

According to the Democratic New York poll by Public Policy Polling:

Most striking is that Obama trails by only 12 points despite earning the support of only 44% of African American voters in the state. “Barack Obama has a lot of room to improve his black support in the state,” said Debnam. “If he can do that and also pick up a majority of former Edwards supporters who might be attracted to his message of hope, he has a decent chance of making this primary much more competitive than it was expected to be.”

According to the Democratic New York poll by Datamar Inc:

Methodology: Findings are based on a January 20 - 22, 2008 survey of New York voters. The survey was conducted using an automated telephone dialer and the voice of a professional announcer. The targeted-registration-based-sampling (TRBS)* selection criteria were based on election cycles and other voter factors in New York. Datamar proprietary algorithms were used to generate random samples from the target group for calling.

The targeted-registration-based-sampling (TRBS)* selection criteria were based on election cycles and other voter factors in New York. Datamar proprietary algorithms were used to generate random samples from the target group for calling.

According to the Democratic Tennessee poll by Public Policy Polling:

“The primary electorate in Tennessee is only about 25% black,” said Debnam. “Obama continues to perform well behind Clinton among white voters, and he’s going to have difficulty winning primaries in states without large African American populations if that continues.” Obama leads Clinton 60-20 among black voters in the poll, but trails her 50-22 with white voters. After struggling with female voters in South Carolina, Clinton appears to be back to form, leading Obama 47-28 with that group in Tennessee.


Ludilo!! :razz:
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Najnovija vijest: Ted Kennedy izazvao Arnolda Schwarzeneggera na obaranje podlaktice, ili ti 'arm wrestling' za predsjednistvo. Ko pobjedi, njegov kandidat ce biti predsjednik (Kennedy-Obama ili Schwarzenegger-McCain) :D
:-)

U nacionalnim anketama Clintonova jos uvijek vodi, ali joj se Obama opasno priblizio na samo 3% zaostatka. Jos nema jasnih anketa uradjenih bez Edwardsa. Barack joj se opasno primakao u Californiji na 4-5%. Ona jos uvijek u anketama znacajno vodi u Massachusettsu, New Yorku, New Jerseyu, Oklahomi, Tennessiju. Obama vodi u svom Illinoisu, Georgiji, Alabami, Coloradu.

Ako se ovaj trend nastavi ispasce da ce bas u utorak dvoje biti maltene izjednaceni. :shock: Medjutim, Clintonova jos uvijek definitivno vodi.

S druge strane, sve su prilike da ce utorak biti kraj za Republikance. Svi polako staju iza McCaina, osim hardcore konzervativaca.
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