Analiticarr wrote: ↑14/12/2019 00:56Vino tj alkohol se pominje samo kao nagrada sto znaci da ne moze biti zabranjeno.
To bi bilo istina da nema ovakvih primjera u Kur'anu (Korkutovi prevodi):
Pitaju te o vinu i kocki. Reci: ”Oni donose veliku štetu, a i neku korist ljudima, samo je šteta od njih veća od koristi.” I pitaju te koliko
da udjeljuju. Reci: ”Višak!” Eto, tako vam Allah objašnjava propise da biste razmislili. [2:219]
O vjernici, vino i kocka i kumiri i strjelice za gatanje su odvratne stvari, šejtanovo djelo; zato se toga klonite da biste postigli što želite. [5:90]
Što se tiče 2:219, valjda je jasno da ono što je šteta je razumno izbjegavati, a razumno je i zabranjivati, tim više što se ovdje govori o "velikoj šteti", dakle stavlja se naglasak na disproporciju i veličinu štete, dok se korist od vina/alkohola čak i nipodaštava i trivijalizira kroz izjavu "neku korist". Dakle, "neku korist", ali ne naročito veliku ili bitnu. Dok ide "velika šteta", a ne samo "neka šteta" na primjer.
Što se tiče 5:90, sam ajet postavlja kao uvjet uspjeha ("postizanja šta se želi") to da se čovjek kloni prethodno navedenih stvari; ako uzmemo da je postignuće na primjer Džennet, ili na primjer Allahovo zadovoljstvo, ili na primjer susret sa Allahom i td., kako onda ikako drugačije tumačiti ovaj ajet osim u smislu čak i stroge zabrane vina, kocke i drugog? Ili neko želi reći kako je Allahovo zadovoljstvo (odnosno nezadovoljstvo) nebitna i trivijalna stvar, nešto što nije cilj sam po sebi?
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Druga stvar koju želim reći jeste - po čemu je musliman u nekoj tobožnjoj obavezi da prihvati Korkutov prevod kao isključivo validan? Ko kaže da je to "originalni prevod (u Bošnjaka)" samo zato što je nastao prije N godina/decenija/stoljeća, isto kao da ljudska inteligencija i ljudska pobožnost leži na historiji, a ne na Vječnom i Sveprisutnom Božijem nadahnuću da se (spo)zna istina?
1400+ godina Islamske historije, uz nebrojene učenjake ali i laike, svjedoči jednom: alkohol, osim u svrhe medicine primjerice, je zlo, loš, haram i kao takav - posve logično i razumno - zabranjen svakom muslimanu, osim u slučaju prijeke nužde.
Evo nekih od prevoda 2:219 na engleskom jeziku:
Sahih International: They ask you about wine and gambling. Say, "In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is greater than their benefit." And they ask you what they should spend. Say, "The excess [beyond needs]." Thus Allah makes clear to you the verses [of revelation] that you might give thought.
Pickthall: They question thee about strong drink and games of chance. Say: In both is great sin, and (some) utility for men; but the sin of them is greater than their usefulness. And they ask thee what they ought to spend. Say: that which is superfluous. Thus Allah maketh plain to you (His) revelations, that haply ye may reflect.
Yusuf Ali: They ask thee concerning wine and gambling. Say: "In them is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit." They ask thee how much they are to spend; Say: "What is beyond your needs." Thus doth Allah Make clear to you His Signs: In order that ye may consider-
Shakir: They ask you about intoxicants and games of chance. Say: In both of them there is a great sin and means of profit for men, and their sin is greater than their profit. And they ask you as to what they should spend. Say: What you can spare. Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications, that you may ponder
Muhammad Sarwar: (Muhammad), they ask you about wine and gambling. Tell them that there is great sin in them. Although they have benefits for men, the sin therein is far greater than the benefit. They ask you about what they should give for the cause of God. Tell them, "Let it be what you can spare." This is how God explains for you His guidance so that perhaps you will think
Mohsin Khan: They ask you (O Muhammad SAW) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: "In them is a great sin, and (some) benefit for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit." And they ask you what they ought to spend. Say: "That which is beyond your needs." Thus Allah makes clear to you His Laws in order that you may give thought."
Arberry: They will question thee concerning wine, and arrow-shuffling. Say: 'In both is heinous sin; and uses for men, but the sin in them is more heinous than the usefulness.' They will question thee concerning what they should expend. Say: 'The abundance.' So God makes clear His signs to you; haply you will reflect;
Doslovno sve i jedan navode vino kao "grijeh"; čak i da su upotrijebili riječ zlo, koja je inače "težeg" značenja od riječi grijeh, opet bi to bilo isto. A ako grijesi, odnosno zlo, nisu zabranjeni, šta su onda? Dozvoljeni? Jer, ili je nešto zabranjeno ili nije, a ako nije onda je po definiciji dozvoljeno. A ako je dozvoljeno, onda bi sva priča prestala tu i tada, i ne bi stotine generacija muslimana oko ovoga polemisalo stoljećima.
