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#5101 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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bravo Huso,lisice najbolje čuvaju kokošinjac.
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#5102 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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Eno gledam, izgleda masoni prouzrokovali zemljotres u Haitiju. Koristili valjda ono tajno oruzje sto se vijekovima razvija (jeli 'no HAARP bjese)... pa sad salju doktore, hranu, pomoc, pare, ne bil' se infiltrirali, postavili svoju vladu iz sjene da ih poslije porobe (a da ovi ni ne znaju).

Stave malo proxy-ja, Husu glasnogovornika, da izgleda zabrinut, i ponudi pomoc, a ovi poslije ulete klizeci...

Bitange li ni jedne, i njihove svjetske sheme.

Jesam li dobro pofato...
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#5103 Re: Nobelovac za mir traži novac za...?

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obama je profulo zanat ...
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#5104 Re: Nobelovac za mir traži novac za...?

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osa wrote:
bogoljub wrote:
osa wrote:povlačenje vojnika je jako osjetljiva tema, recimo iz afganistana, prije dolaska amera bilo je katastrofalno, sada je loše, da li bi poslije povlačenja bilo dobro, loše ili opet katastrofalno, veliko je pitanje, ja mislim da bi bilo još katastrofalnije.uzmite samo dolazak trupa un u hrvatsku i bih, dali su nam predah, što jes, jes.
Stanje u Afganistanu je bilo loše, al kada su ovi došli tek je tada postalo KATASTROFALNO to pokazuju sve statistike! Kada bi se oni povukli napisao si da bi opet bilo Loše ili katastrofalno!
Pa koja je onda filozofija i mudrologija slanja najjače vojske svijeta u najnazadniju zemlju na planeti.
Kakva je to najjača vojska na svijetu ako uistinu 8 godina ne mogu da riješe pitanje u najnazadnijoj zemlji na planeti!_?
Ili je u pitanju nešto drugo!¨_? :?:

nemoj tako, koliko su stranci u bih, pa se stanje nije riješilo, a bih svakako nije najnazadnija zemlja na svijetu, interesi postoje, a sad da li je trenutno gorre nego za vrijeme talibana, pa nisam baš siguran, da je bilo dobro za talibana ne bi ameri ni prismrdili u afganistan.
Stranci u BiH za vrijeme rata su mogli rijesit stanje kako hoce i mogli su sve zaustavit 92 eventualno 93. A sto se tice od 96 pa dosad nemozes poredit afganistan i nas ni u kojem slucaju.
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#5105 Re: Nobelovac za mir traži novac za...?

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šta ćeš, to mu je u opisu radnog mjesta.

u visokoj politici postoji samo i jedino interes. visoka politika i nobelova nagrada za mir...grohotom se smijem. rat je jednostavno biznis, možda i najveći na planeti, nacija i vjera su izvlakuše za masu...
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#5106 Re: Nobelovac za mir traži novac za...?

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stochar wrote:meni je obama OK, i kao predsjednik jedne velesile je najumjereniji sto moze biti, ali, kad je dobio nobelovu nagradu za mir to mi je fakat bilo presmijeshno.

predsjedniku zemlje koja ucestvuje u ratu dati nobelovu nagradu za mir je preloodo. mada, kada se vidi koliko su doprinos nobelova otkrica dala ubijanju i razaranjima, i sama nobelova nagrada za mir je oksimoron, k'o kad bi davali mengeleovu nagradu za humanost...
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očito ne znaš da je i Hitler 38g nominovan za Nobelovu.
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jeza u ledja wrote:Moderatori, mozete li ovu temu premjestiti ovdje?

Hvala. :)
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#5108 Re: Nobelovac za mir traži novac za...?

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što je artur klark rekao a ja dodajem nove ratove
s parama koje su potrošena na koreju vijetnam i trku u naoružanju + afganistan irak jednom irak drugi put te opet afganistan moglo se imati stalne baze na mjesecu i marsu :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: ali kome to koristi rat donosi zaradu :(
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#5109 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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jeza u ledja wrote:
ahuseino wrote:da bogda...

viccemo dokle ce dogurat' s ovim, pogotovo sto sad idu izbori...
Zato sam i podvukao ovo:
"which must be approved by Congress" :-?
Kao sto rekoh:

Obama’s Tax Faces ‘Fierce’ Congress Opposition, Martinez Says

By Zijing Wu and Andrea Catherwood



Jan. 15 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama’s proposal to tax the biggest financial firms will face “fierce” opposition in Congress, former Florida senator and Republican National Committee Chairman Mel Martinez said.

“It has to be approved by Congress, and I think there’ll be fierce opposition,” Martinez said in a Bloomberg Television interview today in London. “The Democrats are the overall majorities, so it could be done without Republican support, but it’s always difficult to do anything this difficult without any bi-partisan support.”

Obama said yesterday the levy, which would be imposed on as many as 50 financial firms, is aimed at getting back “every single dime” of taxpayer money that bailed out those companies during the worst recession since the 1930s. Analysts and investors say it may cost JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Bank of America Corp. more than $1.5 billion each.

“This is a significant 10-year tax which may put U.S. banks at a very disadvantageous position in terms of world competition,” Martinez said. “This is not just for the bonuses this year.”

The fee would apply to financial companies with assets of more than $50 billion such as Citigroup Inc., American International Group Inc. and Bank of America Corp. It would be based on bank liabilities and imposed starting June 30.

Non-financial companies which also got bail-out aid including General Motors Co. and Chrysler Group LLC would be exempt from the levy.

‘Particularly Bad’

“It’s particularly bad that he’s not asking General Motors to pay back,” Martinez said. “In fact that money was designed for financial institutions. It was never supposed to be a bail- out for General Motors.”

Martinez said that the policy was designed to garner support before congressional elections coming in November.

“The basis for it is populism,” said Martinez. “It’s very popular to whack the banks and talk about bonuses and get every dime paid back even though it’s already happening.”

Obama said at the White House yesterday that the aid to banks and other firms during the financial crisis was “a distasteful but necessary thing to do,” and now it’s time for the money to be paid back. He said financial companies can afford the fee, citing “massive profits and obscene bonuses” on Wall Street.




A evo jos malo o ovom prijedlogu (sa CNN Money)

Obama calls for bailout tax

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- President Obama on Thursday called on Congress to tax the largest banks to ensure that U.S. taxpayers don't lose a penny from the federal bailout of the financial, auto and insurance industries over the past year.

The "financial crisis responsibility fee" would target major institutions. It would be levied on those that were the main contributors to the financial crisis and the most significant beneficiaries of the extraordinary actions taken by the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department.

"My commitment is to recover every single dime the American people are owed," Obama said. "We want our money back and we're going to get it."

Full details of how the measure would work will be part of Obama's proposed 2011 budget, which won't be released until early next month.

But the president's announcement comes as banks are set to pay out tens of billions of dollars in bonuses

Obama noted that Treasury has already recovered the majority of the funds provided to banks, but said that wasn't good enough.

"If these companies are in good enough shape to afford massive bonuses, they are surely in good enough shape to afford paying back every penny to taxpayers," Obama said.

His proposal comes a full three years before the law that created the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program would require the president to submit a legislative proposal to Congress to recoup any money lost from the bailouts.

The president's proposal calls for the tax to be in place for a minimum of 10 years, but longer if necessary. "The fee will stay in place until every penny of TARP is repaid," a senior administration official said.

If passed by Congress, it would take effect on June 30 and is estimated to raise $90 billion over 10 years. More than 60% of the money is likely to come from the 10 largest financial institutions.

Firms could be subject to the fee even if they never took TARP funds or if they took TARP funds but repaid them. That's because all major financial institutions benefited directly and indirectly from the efforts to stabilize the financial system, according to the administration.

If the fee ends up raising more money than is needed to fully repay the bailout money, the additional funds would be used to help improve the U.S. fiscal position, which was worsened by the crisis, the senior administration official said.

A group representing 100 financial services companies wasted no time in blasting the proposal.

"Two-thirds of the TARP investment from banks has already been repaid with a large profit to the taxpayer," said Steve Bartlett, president of the Financial Roundtable. "This proposed tax will do nothing more than stifle economic recovery and encumber more pressing concerns, such as covering new regulatory costs."

Obama bluntly said that banks should tap their bonus pools to pay the fee.

"I'd urge you to cover the costs of the rescue not by sticking it to your shareholders or your customers or fellow citizens with the bill, but by rolling back bonuses for top earners and executives," he said

Firms targeted by the fee

Firms subject to the fee would have to have more than $50 billion in assets and must be a bank holding company, a thrift holding company, an insurer or a broker-dealer. Smaller firms and community banks would not be affected, the official said.

The fee would be assessed on an institution's liabilities minus its domestic deposits and core capital, which is the firm's cushion against possible losses. It's designed to tax firms with the greatest leverage, which is a proxy for how much risk the firm is taking in the markets.

The fee would be approximately 0.15% of a firm's covered liabilities. So, for example, a firm with $1 trillion in assets minus $100 billion in core capital and $500 billion in deposits, would leave it with $400 billion in covered liabilities. Consequently the firm would be charged approximately $600 million for the fee. (0.15% x $400 billion).

The administration estimates that roughly 50 companies will have to pay the fee, of which 20 to 27 would be banking institutions, according to the official. Roughly 35 would be U.S. companies and the rest would be the U.S. subsidiaries of foreign companies.

Some major beneficiaries of the financial bailout will not be subject to the fee - namely, mortgage giants Fannie Mae (FNM, Fortune 500) and Freddie Mac (FRE, Fortune 500) and automakers GM and Chrysler.

In those cases, the administration didn't think the fee would be workable both because of the structure of those companies' assets and because of their current condition, the senior administration official said


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#5110 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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jeza u ledja wrote:
ahuseino wrote:da bogda...

viccemo dokle ce dogurat' s ovim, pogotovo sto sad idu izbori...
Zato sam i podvukao ovo:
"which must be approved by Congress" :-?
Kao sto rekoh:

Obama’s Tax Faces ‘Fierce’ Congress Opposition, Martinez Says

By Zijing Wu and Andrea Catherwood



Jan. 15 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama’s proposal to tax the biggest financial firms will face “fierce” opposition in Congress, former Florida senator and Republican National Committee Chairman Mel Martinez said.

“It has to be approved by Congress, and I think there’ll be fierce opposition,” Martinez said in a Bloomberg Television interview today in London. “The Democrats are the overall majorities, so it could be done without Republican support, but it’s always difficult to do anything this difficult without any bi-partisan support.”

Obama said yesterday the levy, which would be imposed on as many as 50 financial firms, is aimed at getting back “every single dime” of taxpayer money that bailed out those companies during the worst recession since the 1930s. Analysts and investors say it may cost JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Bank of America Corp. more than $1.5 billion each.

“This is a significant 10-year tax which may put U.S. banks at a very disadvantageous position in terms of world competition,” Martinez said. “This is not just for the bonuses this year.”

The fee would apply to financial companies with assets of more than $50 billion such as Citigroup Inc., American International Group Inc. and Bank of America Corp. It would be based on bank liabilities and imposed starting June 30.

Non-financial companies which also got bail-out aid including General Motors Co. and Chrysler Group LLC would be exempt from the levy.

‘Particularly Bad’

“It’s particularly bad that he’s not asking General Motors to pay back,” Martinez said. “In fact that money was designed for financial institutions. It was never supposed to be a bail- out for General Motors.”

Martinez said that the policy was designed to garner support before congressional elections coming in November.

“The basis for it is populism,” said Martinez. “It’s very popular to whack the banks and talk about bonuses and get every dime paid back even though it’s already happening.”

Obama said at the White House yesterday that the aid to banks and other firms during the financial crisis was “a distasteful but necessary thing to do,” and now it’s time for the money to be paid back. He said financial companies can afford the fee, citing “massive profits and obscene bonuses” on Wall Street.




A evo jos malo o ovom prijedlogu (sa CNN Money)

Obama calls for bailout tax

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- President Obama on Thursday called on Congress to tax the largest banks to ensure that U.S. taxpayers don't lose a penny from the federal bailout of the financial, auto and insurance industries over the past year.

The "financial crisis responsibility fee" would target major institutions. It would be levied on those that were the main contributors to the financial crisis and the most significant beneficiaries of the extraordinary actions taken by the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department.

"My commitment is to recover every single dime the American people are owed," Obama said. "We want our money back and we're going to get it."

Full details of how the measure would work will be part of Obama's proposed 2011 budget, which won't be released until early next month.

But the president's announcement comes as banks are set to pay out tens of billions of dollars in bonuses

Obama noted that Treasury has already recovered the majority of the funds provided to banks, but said that wasn't good enough.

"If these companies are in good enough shape to afford massive bonuses, they are surely in good enough shape to afford paying back every penny to taxpayers," Obama said.

His proposal comes a full three years before the law that created the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program would require the president to submit a legislative proposal to Congress to recoup any money lost from the bailouts.

The president's proposal calls for the tax to be in place for a minimum of 10 years, but longer if necessary. "The fee will stay in place until every penny of TARP is repaid," a senior administration official said.

If passed by Congress, it would take effect on June 30 and is estimated to raise $90 billion over 10 years. More than 60% of the money is likely to come from the 10 largest financial institutions.

Firms could be subject to the fee even if they never took TARP funds or if they took TARP funds but repaid them. That's because all major financial institutions benefited directly and indirectly from the efforts to stabilize the financial system, according to the administration.

If the fee ends up raising more money than is needed to fully repay the bailout money, the additional funds would be used to help improve the U.S. fiscal position, which was worsened by the crisis, the senior administration official said.

A group representing 100 financial services companies wasted no time in blasting the proposal.

"Two-thirds of the TARP investment from banks has already been repaid with a large profit to the taxpayer," said Steve Bartlett, president of the Financial Roundtable. "This proposed tax will do nothing more than stifle economic recovery and encumber more pressing concerns, such as covering new regulatory costs."

Obama bluntly said that banks should tap their bonus pools to pay the fee.

"I'd urge you to cover the costs of the rescue not by sticking it to your shareholders or your customers or fellow citizens with the bill, but by rolling back bonuses for top earners and executives," he said

Firms targeted by the fee

Firms subject to the fee would have to have more than $50 billion in assets and must be a bank holding company, a thrift holding company, an insurer or a broker-dealer. Smaller firms and community banks would not be affected, the official said.

The fee would be assessed on an institution's liabilities minus its domestic deposits and core capital, which is the firm's cushion against possible losses. It's designed to tax firms with the greatest leverage, which is a proxy for how much risk the firm is taking in the markets.

The fee would be approximately 0.15% of a firm's covered liabilities. So, for example, a firm with $1 trillion in assets minus $100 billion in core capital and $500 billion in deposits, would leave it with $400 billion in covered liabilities. Consequently the firm would be charged approximately $600 million for the fee. (0.15% x $400 billion).

The administration estimates that roughly 50 companies will have to pay the fee, of which 20 to 27 would be banking institutions, according to the official. Roughly 35 would be U.S. companies and the rest would be the U.S. subsidiaries of foreign companies.

Some major beneficiaries of the financial bailout will not be subject to the fee - namely, mortgage giants Fannie Mae (FNM, Fortune 500) and Freddie Mac (FRE, Fortune 500) and automakers GM and Chrysler.

In those cases, the administration didn't think the fee would be workable both because of the structure of those companies' assets and because of their current condition, the senior administration official said


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Sto se tice ove druge teme, ni meni nije bas najjasnije zasto je Obama dobio Nobelovu nagradu za mir, ali posto je poznata historija ove nagrade, odnosno kakvi su je sve ljudi dobijali, onda mozda i nije cudna ovakva odluka.

Sto se tice slanja dodatnih trupa u Afganistan, to je u skladu sa Obaminim predizbornim obecanjima, tako da ne vidim sta to treba da cudi?

Mozda treba podsjetiti neke kako i zasto su se SAD, zajedno sa gomilom drugih zemalja nasle u istom?
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#5112 Re: Nobelovac za mir traži novac za...?

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zonbirile wrote:
stochar wrote:meni je obama OK, i kao predsjednik jedne velesile je najumjereniji sto moze biti, ali, kad je dobio nobelovu nagradu za mir to mi je fakat bilo presmijeshno.

predsjedniku zemlje koja ucestvuje u ratu dati nobelovu nagradu za mir je preloodo. mada, kada se vidi koliko su doprinos nobelova otkrica dala ubijanju i razaranjima, i sama nobelova nagrada za mir je oksimoron, k'o kad bi davali mengeleovu nagradu za humanost...
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očito ne znaš da je i Hitler 38g nominovan za Nobelovu.

zonbrile,ne diraj mi stochar-a ,jesi li li procitao OVO

"When the past nominations were released it was discovered that Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939 by Erik Brandt, a member of the Swedish Parliament. Brandt never intended for this nomination to be seriously considered, and submitted it in protest to the nomination of Neville Chamberlain for the prize; Brandt retracted the nomination after a few days.[11] Other infamous nominees included Joseph Stalin and Benito Mussolini. However, since nomination requires only support from one qualified person, nominations do not necessarily represent the opinion of the Nobel committee itself."
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#5113 Re: Nobelovac za mir traži novac za...?

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ljubav_aha wrote:
zonbirile wrote:
stochar wrote:meni je obama OK, i kao predsjednik jedne velesile je najumjereniji sto moze biti, ali, kad je dobio nobelovu nagradu za mir to mi je fakat bilo presmijeshno.

predsjedniku zemlje koja ucestvuje u ratu dati nobelovu nagradu za mir je preloodo. mada, kada se vidi koliko su doprinos nobelova otkrica dala ubijanju i razaranjima, i sama nobelova nagrada za mir je oksimoron, k'o kad bi davali mengeleovu nagradu za humanost...
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očito ne znaš da je i Hitler 38g nominovan za Nobelovu.

zonbrile,ne diraj mi stochar-a ,jesi li li procitao OVO

"When the past nominations were released it was discovered that Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939 by Erik Brandt, a member of the Swedish Parliament. Brandt never intended for this nomination to be seriously considered, and submitted it in protest to the nomination of Neville Chamberlain for the prize; Brandt retracted the nomination after a few days.[11] Other infamous nominees included Joseph Stalin and Benito Mussolini. However, since nomination requires only support from one qualified person, nominations do not necessarily represent the opinion of the Nobel committee itself."
Vjerovatno nije, jer mu je trebala 'cinjenica' da napravi argument... da su Huske i Hicho u istoj kategoriji.
Zombi vidi sta hoce da vidi, ne sta je vidljivo.

... ili ja gledam kroz cvijetne 'chale. Ali cemo oboje reci da chitamo izmedju redova... Jelde Zombi?
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#5114 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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:lol:
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Sta je ba ovo... JUL-e, slusam na vijestima da ce GITMO ostati otvoren za sada, sbog sigurnosnih ili nekih slicnih (virtualnih) razloga.

Sta cemo sad?
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#5116 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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ahuseino wrote:Sta je ba ovo... JUL-e, slusam na vijestima da ce GITMO ostati otvoren za sada, sbog sigurnosnih ili nekih slicnih (virtualnih) razloga.

Sta cemo sad?
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ružno je interpretirati tuđe misli.Nisam mislio na Husu u kontekstu Hiće,nego samo da je ta nagrada,onako kao i sve pod kontrolom.A za razumijevanja rata od Vijetnama do Afganistana,treba shvatiti i znati o čemu se radi,kada se priča o cijeni.Rat je posao biznis i plačanje se ne vrši,kao na primjer kod vinogradara,koji grožđe uberu,predaju,prerađivači prerade,trgovci prodaju i na kraju vinogradar dobije novac-ciklus od najmanje 1-2 godine.Vojna industrija (zanemarimo istraživanja) novac dobije odmah,znači svaki metak,raketa tenk je plačen,bez obzira na upotrebeu,nebuloze tipa da ispale raketu koja košta 600 000$,sa aspekta troškovnika je gotova stvar,jer ona se mora skladištiti,ima svoj rok,već je naplačena i gura proces u novi krug proizvodnje.
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#5117 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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Na godišnjicu Obamine vlade magazin Forein Polis, koji se nalazi pod pokroviteljstvom američkog Vijeća za vanjske odnose, osvrnuo se na nesprovedena Obamina obećanja tokom njegovog govora u Kairu protekle godine.

Barak Obama je prije šest mjeseci u Egiptu, tokom govora pred grupom studenata naglasio da slijedi početak nove ere odnosa između SAD i islamskog svijeta. Analitičari Forein Polisa pišu da je na izmaku strpljenje i povjerenje omladine na Bliskom istoku prema Obaminim varljivim obećanjima.



Obama je s parolom promjena na unutrašnjoj i vanjskoj sceni zakupio veliku pažnju javnog mnijenja. Pojedine vlade na Bliskom istoku su nakon njegovog dolaska na vlast izrazile nadu da će doći do promjene politke Bijele kuće prema islamskim zemljama i muslimanima. Tokom posjete Turskoj i Egiptu američki predsjednik je naglasio da će se njegova politku razlikovati od Buševe prema muslimanskim zemljama. Barak je u prvoj posjeti jednoj muslimanskoj zemlji u funkciji predsjednika, pred turskim paralementarcima izjavio da Amerika nije, niti će ikada biti, u ratu sa islamom. Ali obećanja demokratskog predsjednika SAD o promjeni politike Vašingtona prema islamskim zemljama, ograničena su samo na riječi dok je u djelovanju Obama nastavio slijediti ekspanzionističku politiku Džordža Buša. Ako je zaista došlo do pojedinih promjena u američkoj politici, te promjene su bile neophodne i nemaju veze sa Obaminom parolom promjena.

Nakon događaja 11. septembra stvorena je nova politička ideologija - borba protiv terorizma. U tome periodu Džordž Buš govorio je o novom krstaškom ratu. Nakon masovnih protesta koji su organizovani u islamskim zemljama, tadašnji američki predsjednik uputio je izvinjenje muslimanima zbog upotrebljenog izraza, ali u praksi američka borba protiv terorizma i muslimana u svim dijelovima svijeta, posebno na Bliskom istoku, sve više je dolazila do izražaja. Napad na Afganistan i Irak te projekat Veliki Bliski istok, predstavljali su glavne i dugoročne ciljeve Buševe vlade protiv islamskih vlada. Ovakva američka politika je doprinjela stvaranju netrpeljivosti spram muslimana u Europi i početku novog talasa islamofobije na Starom kontinentu. Širenje borbe protiv terorizma obuhvatilo je sve islamske grupacije i aktivne muslimanske pokrete u svijetu, poput libanskog Hizbullaha, palestinskog Hamasa i Islamskog džihada, grupacija čiji je glavni cilj očuvanje i odbrana otadžbine od vlade izraelskog režima. U međuvremenu, direktnim i indirektnim putem, a sve zaslužujući američkom sloganu borbe protiv terorizma, dolazi do diskriminacije muslimana u svim dijelovima svijeta. Na stotine hiljada žena i djece u Afganistanu i Iraku su ubijeni od strane američkih vojnika. Od početka američke agresije na Irak, od marta 2003. godine do danas, ubijeno je preko jedan milion nedužnih Iračana.

U SAD i Europi u većini slučajeva samo muslimanski identitet, afganistanski, egipatski, irački, pakistanski ili arapsko ime je dovoljno za maltretiranje, sumnjičenje i pritvaranje muslimana, pod izgovorom borbe protiv terorizma. Ovakav negativni stav prema muslimanima i građanima iz islamskih zemalja trenutno postoji u većini zapadnih zemalja.

Islamofobična politika Buševe vlade, pod izgovorom borbe protiv terorizma, vrlo brzo je postala jasna javnom mnijenju u islamskom svijetu i u pojedinim zapadnim zemljama. Ni jedna osoba na svijetu basistički Sadamov režim u Iraku ili talibanski sistem u Afganistanu ne poistovjećuje sa islamom i slijeđenjem pravilnog islamskog učenja. Kratkim osvrtom na odnose Sadamovog režima sa SAD te formiranjem talibanskog sistema u Afganistanu, zapazit ćemo da je Bijela kuća bila glavni krivac za učvršćivanje Sadamove vladavine u Iraku i talibanskog režima u Afganistanu. Ali SAD su pod izgovorom borbe protiv terorizma u Afganistanu i uništavanjem oružja za masovno ubijanje u Iraku napale ove dvije zemlje. Istovremeno, u tome periodu dolazai do organizovanja masovnih protesta protiv američke vlade u većini svjetskih zemalja, posebno islamskih. Međunarodno javno mnijenje je razumjelo da su Sadamov režim u Iraku i talibanski sistem u Afganistanu izgubili vrijednost za Vašington. Javno mnijenje je shvatilo da je borba protiv terorizma i uništavanja oružja za masovno ubijenje bio samo providni i lažni izgovor za direktno vojno prisustvo ove zemlje u Iraku i Afganistanu, a u cilju slijeđenja militantnih i unilateralnih projekata u regionu Bliskog istoka. Informisanost javnog mnijenja, posebno muslimana, o američkim zavjerničkim planovima je doprinjelo velikoj omrženosti ove zemlje u svijetu, posebno među muslimanskom omladinom. Objelodanjivanje zločina američkih vojnika u Iraku i Afganistanu, mučenje zatvorenika u zloglasnim američkim zatvorima Gvantanamu i Abu Gureibu, doprinjeli su povećanju i nastavku antiamerikanizma.

Omrženost Buševe vlade nije bila ograničena samo na islamske zemlje. Unutar SAD, tadašanji predsjednik Džordž Buš, postao je jedan od trojice najomrženijih predsjednika u historiji ove zemlje. Barak Obama u takvoj antiratnoj i antibuševskoj atmosferi, pod parolom promjene započinje svoju predsjedničku kampanju. Obama je nakon pobjede na predsjedničkim izborima i ulaska u Bijelu kuću začeo strukturalne političke promjene. Objavljivanjem zatvaranja zloglasnog američkog zatvora u zaljevu Gvantanamo do kraja 2009. godine, što nije učinjeno nego je prolomgirano do 2011. godine, i odstranjivanje slogana borba protiv terorizma iz američke politike, važna su dva poteza koja su popravila omrženo lice SAD u svijetu. Nastojanje za obnavljanjem odnosa sa islamskim svijetom predstavlja treći potez Obame u ovom domenu. Ali američka politika prema islamskim zemljama, posebno pitanju Palestine, doprinosi lažnom uzdanju u Obamine parole. Američka politika prema Palestini ukazuje da aktuelni predsjednik Amerike nije niti će zauzeti ozbiljnije stavove o širenju saradnje sa islamskim zemljama. Palestina je neodvojivi dio islamskog svijeta, dok američka vlada bez imalo promjena u odnosu spram palestinskog pitanja i u velikoj podršci okupatorskom režimu iz Tel Aviva ne može biti zagovornik za obnavljanje odnosa i saradnje Vašingtona sa islamskim svijetom. Trenutno je Amerika najveći i najodaniji svjetski savzenik Izraela. Veza između Vašingtona i Tel Aviva je toliko čvrsta da Bijela kuća stravične zločine Izraelaca na okupiranoj palestinskoj teritoriji, poput nemilosrdnog ubijanja žena i djece, opravdava samoodbranom, dok istovremeno palestinske islamske pokrete otpora Hamas i Islamski džihad, koji brane svoju teritoriju od divljačkih napada i nasrtaja izraelske armije, imenuje terorističkim grupacijama.

Zabilježeni su mnogi drugi primjeri u riječima, a ne djelima američkih zvaničnika oko saradnje sa islamskim zemljama. U suštini, američka vlada kroz saradnju sa islamskim zemaljama namjerava iste pridobiti za sprovođenje svoje unilateralne politike. Bijela kuća nema nikakvog razloga i volje za širenjem saradnje sa islamskim zemaljama. Sve dok postoji ovakvo viđenje stvarnosti u očima američkih zvaničnika ne treba očekivati da će doći do poboljšavanja odnosa i konstruktivne saradnje. Američka vlada, ako zaista namjerava poboljšati odnose sa islamskim svijetom, treba se upoznati sa stvarnim značenjima pojmova pravde, zakona i mira te se udaljiti od slijeđenja dvoaršinske i licemjerne politike spram islamskih vlada i muslimana.
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ahuseino, za kog si glas'o danas? :)
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jeza u ledja wrote:ahuseino, za kog si glas'o danas? :)
Sta mislis?
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ahuseino wrote:
jeza u ledja wrote:ahuseino, za kog si glas'o danas? :)
Sta mislis?
Za zeMsku?
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jeza u ledja wrote:
ahuseino wrote:
jeza u ledja wrote:ahuseino, za kog si glas'o danas? :)
Sta mislis?
Za zeMsku?
AfSkroz... samo vidi konja:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massac ... _day?pg=16

u truck-u... samo mu mamuze fale.

Mislim da je moguce da gledamo predsjednickog kandidata za koji termin...


Bice tajt rejs jer je ova elitistica i nema one personable skills.
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Citam ove tekstove gdje ljudi ne znaju ni bosanski ni engleski da valja . Kakve su ovo recenice . napisite recenicu ili na engleskom ili na bosanskom . Ovo ne lici ni na sta
Asto se tice Obame .. Jedna obicna figura u rukama cionista koji mu dadose Nobelovu nagradu cuj za mir a poslo 30000 vojnika da ubijaju po Afganistanu . Doduse jes da ih talibani mlave i pretvaraju Nato u blato . Zato za mene vrijednost Nobelove bagrade ima ko prvak MZ Donja Sjekaca u igranju mice , tavle ili ne ljuti se covjece :lol: Jedan obican pajac nalik na svog prethodnika
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Hasanagic S wrote:Citam ove tekstove gdje ljudi ne znaju ni bosanski ni engleski da valja . Kakve su ovo recenice . napisite recenicu ili na engleskom ili na bosanskom . Ovo ne lici ni na sta
Asto se tice Obame .. Jedna obicna figura u rukama cionista koji mu dadose Nobelovu nagradu cuj za mir a poslo 30000 vojnika da ubijaju po Afganistanu . Doduse jes da ih talibani mlave i pretvaraju Nato u blato . Zato za mene vrijednost Nobelove bagrade ima ko prvak MZ Donja Sjekaca u igranju mice , tavle ili ne ljuti se covjece :lol: Jedan obican pajac nalik na svog prethodnika
Bas si me slatko nasmijao. Tacno te zamisljam, citas: "tajt rejs, sta mu je t... aaaaa to..?

Ali imas ti pravo, jest' odvratno, i mene bi nerviralo prije 15 godina... danas jbg ne, sta cu... da samo vidis maticare kako ih nerviramo, a mi onda jos gore...

A ovo za Nato i blato, ne znam, valjda ti znas vise :wink: ... pa de prenesi :P , nebud'tinaredjeno...
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@jeza u leđa i @ahuseino
svi znaju da ste tamo ,imate pp za konverzaciju,ovako djelujete kao dva papčića u velikom svijetu koji bi da kakaju rođacima u domovini.Znaš koliko boli qurac svijet i Bosnu za izbore u Masačustecu,a vaš falš engleski može proći u vašoj zabiti kada se o odmoru vratite da vidite lokalce.
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zonbirile wrote:@jeza u leđa i @ahuseino
svi znaju da ste tamo ,imate pp za konverzaciju,ovako djelujete kao dva papčića u velikom svijetu koji bi da kakaju rođacima u domovini.Znaš koliko boli qurac svijet i Bosnu za izbore u Masačustecu,a vaš falš engleski može proći u vašoj zabiti kada se o odmoru vratite da vidite lokalce.
Kompleks je bolest. Lijeci se.

Sto se tice izbora u MA, Republikanci su dobili svog prvog senatora sa sjeveroistoka i prvog iz MA nakon nekoliko decenija, i to na upraznjeno mjesto Teda Kennedyja. To znaci da ce se broj Demokrata u Senatu smanjiti na 59, a za blokiranje fillibuster je potrebno 60 (tj. brojka koja je potrebna za donosenje mnogih zakona).
To konkretno znaci da se ugrozava donosenje novog zakona o zdravstvenom osiguranju, koji je doduse vec prosao oba doma, ali se sad mora usaglasiti, sto znaci da bi se opet mogao vratiti u Senat na glasanje - a tamo vise nema dovoljno glasova. Sto je najironicnije, Ted Kennedy je bio predvodnik reforme o zdravstvenom osiguranju, a sad kad je umro mijenja ga neki bilmez.
Mozda je ovako i bolje.
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