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Dozer wrote:Drugim rijecima, samo vjernici imaju mirnu dusu, dok nevjernici to ne mogu tako?

Nigdje veze. Prvi ja sam dokaz toga
Nevjernik totalni, a dusa mirna da mirnija ne moze.

hladan.preminger wrote: Ta mu agresivnost (duduku) jedino preostaje, jer tesko je biti apologeta institucije koja je svijet 1500 godina držala u crnom i sprječavala svaki napredak covjecanstva i sve na temelju svoje dogme, koja je odgovorna za "ko zna" koliko ubistava nevinih ljudi, mucenja i sl. Pa najgore sprave za mucenje nastale unutar crkvenih zidova.
Zato je napad jedina odbrana u slucaju kršćana.

bosanka hercegovic wrote:Zašto je potrebna religija?
Čovjek je biće koje je stvoreno na poseban način kao kombinacija materijalne i duhovne komponente. Kao što nam je potrebna hrana da bi tijelo živjelo, isto tako su nam potrebni duhovni plodovi vjere da bi naša duša bila mirna i zadovoljna dok boravi u tijelu( a i poslije).....a svima nama je ostavljena mogućnost izbora da biramo materijalne i duhovne plodove po svome ukusu iz "šarene bašte" Božije

Ali Kemal wrote:

hladan.preminger wrote: Ta mu agresivnost (duduku) jedino preostaje, jer tesko je biti apologeta institucije koja je svijet 1500 godina držala u crnom i sprječavala svaki napredak covjecanstva i sve na temelju svoje dogme, koja je odgovorna za "ko zna" koliko ubistava nevinih ljudi, mucenja i sl. Pa najgore sprave za mucenje nastale unutar crkvenih zidova.
Zato je napad jedina odbrana u slucaju kršćana.

Bas fino sto si se javio
i objasnio porijeklo vjerskih ratova, medjusobne mrznje izmedju vjernika razlicitih konfesija, religije kao sredstva za ostvarivanje politickih i ekonomskih clijeva.

bosanka hercegovic wrote:Zašto je potrebna religija?
Čovjek je biće koje je stvoreno na poseban način kao kombinacija materijalne i duhovne komponente. Kao što nam je potrebna hrana da bi tijelo živjelo, isto tako su nam potrebni duhovni plodovi vjere da bi naša duša bila mirna i zadovoljna dok boravi u tijelu( a i poslije).....a svima nama je ostavljena mogućnost izbora da biramo materijalne i duhovne plodove po svome ukusu iz "šarene bašte" Božije

Problem je sto ljudima nije ostavljena mogucnost da biraju. U islamskim drzavama te ubiju ako ne zelis da budes musliman
Mozes li da objasnis, bez onoga da oni ne znaju da tumace Islam

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:
Hajde molim te argumentuj te gluposti

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:Da, ti si naveo definicije, možeš li da mi daš podatak kad, gdje, koliko, ko, i sve što sadrži jedan ozbiljan argument.

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:Ne nego ti insistiraš da si jako pametan.U kojoj islamskoj državi su ubili nekoga zato jer nije htio da bude musliman?Hajde, pametnjakoviću koji znaš koristiti google, nađi mi.

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:Hajde molim te argumentuj te gluposti

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:Ne nego ti insistiraš da si jako pametan.U kojoj islamskoj državi su ubili nekoga zato jer nije htio da bude musliman?Hajde, pametnjakoviću koji znaš koristiti google, nađi mi.

Ali Kemal wrote:

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:Hajde molim te argumentuj te gluposti

Izvoli:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27433241

Dr Meriam Yahya Ibrahim was condemned to hang for allegedly leaving Islam and marrying a Christian man.

sigh wrote:

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:Ne nego ti insistiraš da si jako pametan.U kojoj islamskoj državi su ubili nekoga zato jer nije htio da bude musliman?Hajde, pametnjakoviću koji znaš koristiti google, nađi mi.

Smrt je kazna za napustanje Islama po serijatu, i danas se izvrsavaju takve presude. Znaci ako neces da budes musliman u zemlji kojoj vlada serijat, mrtav si covjek

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:Ne nego ti insistiraš da si jako pametan.U kojoj islamskoj državi su ubili nekoga zato jer nije htio da bude musliman?Hajde, pametnjakoviću koji znaš koristiti google, nađi mi.

In his book, "The Biography of the Prophet" (part 3, p. 113), Ibn Hisham relates this episode:

"Ali Ibn Abi Talib encountered a man called ’Umru and told him, ‘I indeed invite you to Islam.’ ’Umru said, ‘I do not need that.’ ’Ali said, ‘Then I call you to fight.’ (This was the same policy Muhammad used with those who rejected his invitation.) ’Umru answered him, ‘What for my nephew? By God, I do not like to kill you.’ ’Ali said, ‘But, by God, I love to kill you"’ (see Al Road Al Anf part 3, p. 263).

It is obvious from the dialogue that ’Umru does not like fighting because he does not want to kill ’Ali while he is defending himself. He wonders, "What for? I do not want to embrace Islam." But ’Ali says to him, "By God I love to kill you," and he did kill him.

We would like to conclude these stories by relating another moving episode which the Muslim Chroniclers recorded, among them, Isma’il Ibn Kathir in his book, "The Prophetic Biography" (part 3, p. 596). Ibn Kathir says that Muhammad’s followers met a man and asked him to become a Muslim. He asked them, "What is Islam?" They explained that to him. He said, "What if I refuse it? What would you do to me?" They answered, "We would kill you." Despite that, he refused to become a Muslim and they killed the poor man after he went and bade his wife farewell. She continued to weep over his corpse for days until she died of grief over her slain beloved who was killed for no reason.

sigh wrote:

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:Ne nego ti insistiraš da si jako pametan.U kojoj islamskoj državi su ubili nekoga zato jer nije htio da bude musliman?Hajde, pametnjakoviću koji znaš koristiti google, nađi mi.

Evo malo i historijskog konteksta

In his book, "The Biography of the Prophet" (part 3, p. 113), Ibn Hisham relates this episode:

"Ali Ibn Abi Talib encountered a man called ’Umru and told him, ‘I indeed invite you to Islam.’ ’Umru said, ‘I do not need that.’ ’Ali said, ‘Then I call you to fight.’ (This was the same policy Muhammad used with those who rejected his invitation.) ’Umru answered him, ‘What for my nephew? By God, I do not like to kill you.’ ’Ali said, ‘But, by God, I love to kill you"’ (see Al Road Al Anf part 3, p. 263).

It is obvious from the dialogue that ’Umru does not like fighting because he does not want to kill ’Ali while he is defending himself. He wonders, "What for? I do not want to embrace Islam." But ’Ali says to him, "By God I love to kill you," and he did kill him.

We would like to conclude these stories by relating another moving episode which the Muslim Chroniclers recorded, among them, Isma’il Ibn Kathir in his book, "The Prophetic Biography" (part 3, p. 596). Ibn Kathir says that Muhammad’s followers met a man and asked him to become a Muslim. He asked them, "What is Islam?" They explained that to him. He said, "What if I refuse it? What would you do to me?" They answered, "We would kill you." Despite that, he refused to become a Muslim and they killed the poor man after he went and bade his wife farewell. She continued to weep over his corpse for days until she died of grief over her slain beloved who was killed for no reason.

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:

sigh wrote:

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:Ne nego ti insistiraš da si jako pametan.U kojoj islamskoj državi su ubili nekoga zato jer nije htio da bude musliman?Hajde, pametnjakoviću koji znaš koristiti google, nađi mi.

Evo malo i historijskog konteksta

In his book, "The Biography of the Prophet" (part 3, p. 113), Ibn Hisham relates this episode:

"Ali Ibn Abi Talib encountered a man called ’Umru and told him, ‘I indeed invite you to Islam.’ ’Umru said, ‘I do not need that.’ ’Ali said, ‘Then I call you to fight.’ (This was the same policy Muhammad used with those who rejected his invitation.) ’Umru answered him, ‘What for my nephew? By God, I do not like to kill you.’ ’Ali said, ‘But, by God, I love to kill you"’ (see Al Road Al Anf part 3, p. 263).

It is obvious from the dialogue that ’Umru does not like fighting because he does not want to kill ’Ali while he is defending himself. He wonders, "What for? I do not want to embrace Islam." But ’Ali says to him, "By God I love to kill you," and he did kill him.

We would like to conclude these stories by relating another moving episode which the Muslim Chroniclers recorded, among them, Isma’il Ibn Kathir in his book, "The Prophetic Biography" (part 3, p. 596). Ibn Kathir says that Muhammad’s followers met a man and asked him to become a Muslim. He asked them, "What is Islam?" They explained that to him. He said, "What if I refuse it? What would you do to me?" They answered, "We would kill you." Despite that, he refused to become a Muslim and they killed the poor man after he went and bade his wife farewell. She continued to weep over his corpse for days until she died of grief over her slain beloved who was killed for no reason.

Jah.... zaključak: Držite se podalje od Islamskih zemalja, eto

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:

sigh wrote:

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:Ne nego ti insistiraš da si jako pametan.U kojoj islamskoj državi su ubili nekoga zato jer nije htio da bude musliman?Hajde, pametnjakoviću koji znaš koristiti google, nađi mi.

Smrt je kazna za napustanje Islama po serijatu, i danas se izvrsavaju takve presude. Znaci ako neces da budes musliman u zemlji kojoj vlada serijat, mrtav si covjek

Kako onda opstaju onoliki kršćani i jevreji u Iranu?

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:A s obzirom zbog čega se sve na planeti Zemlji uopće provode smrtne kazne, najbolje bi bilo da se ispalite na Mars, tamo ste vi, blaženi, 100 % sigurni

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:preminger,

Biti budala u diskusiji sa vama je kompliment i na kraju kad se sve sabere i oduzme, bogme i najpametnija opcija.

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:

sigh wrote:

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:Ne nego ti insistiraš da si jako pametan.U kojoj islamskoj državi su ubili nekoga zato jer nije htio da bude musliman?Hajde, pametnjakoviću koji znaš koristiti google, nađi mi.

Smrt je kazna za napustanje Islama po serijatu, i danas se izvrsavaju takve presude. Znaci ako neces da budes musliman u zemlji kojoj vlada serijat, mrtav si covjek

Kako onda opstaju onoliki kršćani i jevreji u Iranu?

hladan.preminger wrote:

šatirana_ljubičica wrote:A s obzirom zbog čega se sve na planeti Zemlji uopće provode smrtne kazne, najbolje bi bilo da se ispalite na Mars, tamo ste vi, blaženi, 100 % sigurni