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Tajne sluzbe su medjutim vrsile takve eksperimente. Mozda je tesko izmjeriti unutrasnji dozivljaj, ali njih to u sustini ne zanima. Zanima ih samo mjerljivi vanjski efekat.

Usporedba meditacije i LSD je dobra, i LSD korisnik misli da prosiruje svoje vidike.

Da razjasnimo na jednostavnom primjeru. Osoba A tvrdi da kada uradi X moze da leti. Osoba B posmatra osobu A kako radi X i pada na nos. Osoba B to ne smatra letom. Osoba B napise kako X predstavlja odlican nacin da se poveca prodaja flastera i da to treba podrzati u tu svrhu.
Osoba A se uvrijedi, jer ona misli da padanje na nos predstavlja zapravo najbolji moguci let.

madner wrote:Zato sto je dato da meditacija stvarno predstavlja nesto vise od istezanja i buljenja u svoje noge?

cartman wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_on_meditation

madner wrote:

cartman wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_on_meditation

Citiram

The report concluded, "Scientific research on meditation practices does not appear to have a common theoretical perspective and is characterized by poor methodological quality. Firm conclusions on the effects of meditation practices in healthcare cannot be drawn based on the available evidence. Future research on meditation practices must be more rigorous in the design and execution of studies and in the analysis and reporting of results." (p. 6)
It noted that there is no theoretical explanation of health effects from meditation common to all meditation techniques

Drago mi je da se neko slaze.

The report concluded, "Scientific research on meditation practices does not appear to have a common theoretical perspective and is characterized by poor methodological quality. Firm conclusions on the effects of meditation practices in healthcare cannot be drawn based on the available evidence. Future research on meditation practices must be more rigorous in the design and execution of studies and in the analysis and reporting of results." (p. 6) It noted that there is no theoretical explanation of health effects from meditation common to all meditation techniques.[36]

A further analysis of this data set in 2008 reaffirmed the weaknesses of the research, finding that "Most clinical trials on meditation practices are generally characterized by poor methodological quality with significant threats to validity in every major quality domain assessed". This was the conclusion despite a statistically significant increase in quality of all reviewed meditation research, in general, over time between 1956-2005. Of the 400 clinical studies, 10% were found to be good quality. A call was made for rigorous study of meditation.[37] These authors also noted that this finding is not unique to the area of meditation research and that the quality of reporting is a frequent problem in other areas of complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) research and related therapy research domains.

In 2006 NCCAM revised their definition of meditation, emphasizing the experience of the “suspension of thought activity". This definition led to the possibility of comparing mental silence oriented meditation with resting alone and one study found significant physiological differences between the two.[38]

madner wrote:Pa isto kaze i objasnjava zasto je to tako. Kako to boldirano ista mjenja?

cartman wrote:

madner wrote:Pa isto kaze i objasnjava zasto je to tako. Kako to boldirano ista mjenja?

nebih se bas slozio s tobom.

cartman wrote:Jezik je najmanji problem nemamo isti pogled na zivot

madner wrote:

cartman wrote:Jezik je najmanji problem nemamo isti pogled na zivot

Hebo pogled, ali ovo sto pise je bar lagano shvatiti.

cartman wrote:

madner wrote:

cartman wrote:Jezik je najmanji problem nemamo isti pogled na zivot

Hebo pogled, ali ovo sto pise je bar lagano shvatiti.

Jeste. A jesi li procitao zakljucke drugih istrazivanja?

Zemlja je okrugla madneru

madner wrote:
Argumenti postaju sve slabiji, imas li jos neku tautologiju

Ovo zadnje je daleko najbitnije, jer je uradjeno od objektivnog izvora te predstavlja peer review drugih istrazivanja.

cartman wrote:

madner wrote:
Argumenti postaju sve slabiji, imas li jos neku tautologiju

Ovo zadnje je daleko najbitnije, jer je uradjeno od objektivnog izvora te predstavlja peer review drugih istrazivanja.

nemam. jednostavno si superiorniji od mene

madner wrote: Dobro to, nije to tema ove emisije.

How Meditation Might Work

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It is thought that some types of meditation might work by reducing activity in the sympathetic nervous system and increasing activity in the parasympathetic nervous system.

In one area of research, scientists are using sophisticated tools to determine whether meditation is associated with significant changes in brain function. A number of researchers believe that these changes account for many of meditation's effects.

It is also possible that practicing meditation may work by improving the mind's ability to pay attention. Since attention is involved in performing everyday tasks and regulating mood, meditation might lead to other benefits.

A 2007 NCCAM-funded review of the scientific literature found some evidence suggesting that meditation is associated with potentially beneficial health effects. However, the overall evidence was inconclusive. The reviewers concluded that future research needs to be more rigorous before firm conclusions can be drawn.

The report concluded, "Scientific research on meditation practices does not appear to have a common theoretical perspective and is characterized by poor methodological quality. Firm conclusions on the effects of meditation practices in healthcare cannot be drawn based on the available evidence. Future research on meditation practices must be more rigorous in the design and execution of studies and in the analysis and reporting of results." (p. 6)
It noted that there is no theoretical explanation of health effects from meditation common to all meditation techniques