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#501 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 20/08/2018 18:36
by Nadzornik
condy wrote: Ne znam kako je kod Sportage-a, ali znam kako je kod nekih drugih vozila, i da ima poprilicne razlike. Jako mi se dopada za volanom Audi A4 i BMW serije 3.

Nadzornice trebao si mu reci da ide u Duvno, ne bi onda Sportage imao dileme :wink: :mrgreen:
Sve OK.

Medjuti u ovom topiku govorimo o Hyundai/Kia automobilima.
Usporedba i utisci o drugim markama automobila dolaze u obzir samo ako je doticni vozio ili vozi automobile Hyundai ili Kia.

Ovo tvoje gore....ne znam kako je kod Sportage-a, ali...bla bla utisci o drugim markama automobila ne dolaze u obzir.

#502 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 20/08/2018 18:56
by Profil za pisanje
Nadzornik wrote:
Profil za pisanje wrote:Pa ko god je vozio par različit auta iste generacije osjeti razliku.
Meni se recimo svidio i Kuga, focus, opel Crossland X dok bmw x4 i nije. To je moje mišljenje
A da li si vozio Sportage GT 185 ks...???
Jesam

#503 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 20/08/2018 18:57
by amar1994
condy wrote: A neko drugi ga hoce malo drugacije da vozi od tebe i sta cemo tad :mrgreen:
pa to je to , po tome se poznavao bmw i sl. , a recimo mercedes vazio za udoban auto , pa oni koji su kupovali su birali , da li tvrdji ili meksi auto.
Sve vise mi djeluje da mnogi proizvodjaci gube identitet :zoka:

audi ne spominjem jer je relativno svjez igrac u trojcu :D , a i on je ponudio quattro pogon i poznat je po tome :)

#504 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 20/08/2018 19:56
by Nadzornik
Profil za pisanje wrote:
Jesam
I utisci,moze kratka recenzija.

#505 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 20/08/2018 21:57
by Profil za pisanje
Nadzornik wrote:
Profil za pisanje wrote:
Jesam
I utisci,moze kratka recenzija.

GT sam imao za testnu vožnju prije kupovine.
Pa da budem iskren nisam osjetio neku razliku u samom upravljanju između GT i slabijih paketa. Naravno dolazi još bolje do izražaja sa jačim motorom i automatskim mjenjačem ali sam feedback volana mi je isti. Sad ima tu i razlike u težini samog auta zbog mjenjača i awd. Ja sam vozio dizela 2.0. Samo da kažem da mi je upravljivost, volan u sportage odličan. Meni lično je u top 3 njegova atributa. Vozio sam par novijih auta različitih kategorija i može se pošteno reći da su ovo bas dobro napravili. Ne znam kako je kod prethodne generacije ali ovo je dobro.

Što se opreme tiče GT je stvarno drugo auto u odnosu na na ovaj početni paket i slabiji motor. Meni barem tako. Drugo auto. Po meni je razlika u cijeni između početnog i i top paketa opravdana.
Ja sam sa svojim paketom prilično zadovoljan i nije daleko od top verzije a i motor 1.7 kojeg vozim je ok za ovo auto. Ne nedostaje mi nešto iz tog paketa ali je panorama krov kojeg nemam skroz drugi doživljaj auta. U svim vremenskim uslovima. Drugačije se doživljava sama kvaliteta unutrašnjosti.

#506 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 20/08/2018 23:18
by vauvau

#507 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 20/08/2018 23:23
by vauvau
Ako neko može prevesti, sestrićna mi trenutačno nije dostupna.

JUNE 12, 2018 — Hyundai and Kia engine fires should be investigated, according to a petition filed with the government by the Center for Auto Safety (CAS).

According to the safety organization, more than two million 2011-2014 Kia Sorento, Kia Optima, Hyundai Santa Fe and Hyundai Sonata vehicles may be at risk from engine fires caused by melted wires. In addition, complaints filed by owners say all the fires popped up even though no collisions occurred.

The petition was filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) after more than 100 complaints were filed with the government about non-collision engine fires. CAS says more than 200 complaints have been filed alleging smoke and burning odors caused by melted wires in the engine compartments.

The Center says the pattern of fires is troubling because the same model years are involved and three of the models were manufactured at the same assembly plant.

The 2011-2014 Kia Sorento, 2011-2014 Kia Optima and the 2011-2014 Hyundai Santa Fe were all built in West Point, Georgia. The 2011-2014 Hyundai Sonata cars were manufactured in Montgomery, Alabama.

The Center wants NHTSA to investigate any possible connection between the engine fires and the facilities where the vehicles were built. Additionally, federal safety investigators should verify suppliers didn't provide Hyundai and Kia with faulty parts.

CAS says the data shows 47 engine fires have occurred in 2011-2014 Hyundai Sonatas, 33 fires have been reported in 2011-2014 Kia Optimas, 30 fires have allegedly occurred in 2011-2014 Kia Sorentos and 10 non-collision fires have been reported about 2011-2014 Hyundai Santa Fe vehicles.

Any modern vehicle can catch fire from electrical current constantly flowing through the wiring and computerized systems, but CAS says the number of Hyundai and Kia engine fires far outweigh competitor vehicles.

"More specifically, as of June 7, 2018, a review of all the reported cases to NHTSA of non-collision related fires involving similar class and size vehicles, the Center found 22 reported cases in competitor vehicles as opposed to 120 for the Kia and Hyundai models." - Center for Auto Safety

Two of those cases came from Hyundai Santa Fe and Sonata owners.

"Car was driven about 10 miles and then parked inside an attached garage. The ignition was turned off and key removed from vehicle. After approximately 1 hour had passed the car started on fire. Flames were visible behind the front right headlight and front right wheel. The fire caused significant damage to the garage and home." - 2011 Hyundai Santa Fe owner / Big Rapids, Michigan

"Walked out of store I had been shopping in for over an hour and car was in flames. The fire investigator explained it as an electrical short that started at the main engine wire harness and melted the tubing/wiring all through the engine compartment down near passenger headlight and the melting wires/tubing/rubber dripped and ignited on a pile of leaves underneath the car in the parking space." - 2012 Hyundai Sonata owner / Matthews, North Carolina

NHTSA has 120 days to respond to the petition, so CarComplaints.com will update our website with the results.

#508 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 00:45
by Leopard_SA
vauvau wrote:Ako neko može prevesti, sestrićna mi trenutačno nije dostupna.

JUNE 12, 2018 — Hyundai and Kia engine fires should be investigated, according to a petition filed with the government by the Center for Auto Safety (CAS).

According to the safety organization, more than two million 2011-2014 Kia Sorento, Kia Optima, Hyundai Santa Fe and Hyundai Sonata vehicles may be at risk from engine fires caused by melted wires. In addition, complaints filed by owners say all the fires popped up even though no collisions occurred.

The petition was filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) after more than 100 complaints were filed with the government about non-collision engine fires. CAS says more than 200 complaints have been filed alleging smoke and burning odors caused by melted wires in the engine compartments.

The Center says the pattern of fires is troubling because the same model years are involved and three of the models were manufactured at the same assembly plant.

The 2011-2014 Kia Sorento, 2011-2014 Kia Optima and the 2011-2014 Hyundai Santa Fe were all built in West Point, Georgia. The 2011-2014 Hyundai Sonata cars were manufactured in Montgomery, Alabama.

The Center wants NHTSA to investigate any possible connection between the engine fires and the facilities where the vehicles were built. Additionally, federal safety investigators should verify suppliers didn't provide Hyundai and Kia with faulty parts.

CAS says the data shows 47 engine fires have occurred in 2011-2014 Hyundai Sonatas, 33 fires have been reported in 2011-2014 Kia Optimas, 30 fires have allegedly occurred in 2011-2014 Kia Sorentos and 10 non-collision fires have been reported about 2011-2014 Hyundai Santa Fe vehicles.

Any modern vehicle can catch fire from electrical current constantly flowing through the wiring and computerized systems, but CAS says the number of Hyundai and Kia engine fires far outweigh competitor vehicles.

"More specifically, as of June 7, 2018, a review of all the reported cases to NHTSA of non-collision related fires involving similar class and size vehicles, the Center found 22 reported cases in competitor vehicles as opposed to 120 for the Kia and Hyundai models." - Center for Auto Safety

Two of those cases came from Hyundai Santa Fe and Sonata owners.

"Car was driven about 10 miles and then parked inside an attached garage. The ignition was turned off and key removed from vehicle. After approximately 1 hour had passed the car started on fire. Flames were visible behind the front right headlight and front right wheel. The fire caused significant damage to the garage and home." - 2011 Hyundai Santa Fe owner / Big Rapids, Michigan

"Walked out of store I had been shopping in for over an hour and car was in flames. The fire investigator explained it as an electrical short that started at the main engine wire harness and melted the tubing/wiring all through the engine compartment down near passenger headlight and the melting wires/tubing/rubber dripped and ignited on a pile of leaves underneath the car in the parking space." - 2012 Hyundai Sonata owner / Matthews, North Carolina

NHTSA has 120 days to respond to the petition, so CarComplaints.com will update our website with the results.
Dolazi do istrage o otkazivanju motora kod Hyundai i Kia vozila koju treba da provede Centar za auto sigurnost.
Prema ovoj organizaciji vise od dva miliona vozila(modeli Kia Sorento, Kia Optima, Hyundai Santa Fe i Hyundai Sonata) koji su proizvedeni izmdeju 2011-2014. su pod rizikom od otkazivanja motora zbog topljenja zice. Zalbe korisnika ukazuju na to da je dolazilo do ostecenja na zicama iako vozila nisu ucestvovala u sudaru.
Peticiju je poslala Nacionalna agencija za upravljanje autocestama nakon vise od 100 zalbi. Prema CAS-u vise od 200 osoba se zalilo na smrad uzrokovan topljenjem zica u motoru.
Prema CAS-u postoji poveznica izmedju auta kod kojih je navedeni problem izrazen, godine prouzvodnje i mjesta u kojem su proizvedena.
Navedeni automobili sa ovim problemom su proizvedeni izmedju 2011-2014 i svi su proizvedeni u fabrici u West Pointu, Georgija(modeli Kia Sorento, Kia Optima i Hyndai Santa Fe) dok je Hynudai Sonata poizveden u fabrici u Montgomeriju, Alabama.
CAS zeli da Nacionalna agencija za upravljanje autocestama istrazi ovaj problem i da potvrde da Hyundai nije dobio lose dijelove od dobavljaca.
Ostatak teksta opisuje probleme sa automobilima i iskustva korisnika sa ovim autima.

#509 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 06:32
by vauvau
Znači zapale se sami od sebe.

#510 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 08:10
by Nadzornik
vauvau wrote:Znači zapale se sami od sebe.
Pa to isti slucaj kao sa BMW-eom... :D

#511 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 08:13
by Throttle
A Touran i Tiguan sto prokisnjavaju, to nista :skoljka:
:mrgreen:

#512 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 08:52
by mali_milojica
To se ne pika.
Njima kad se to desi, oni to rade sa renomeom i stilom.
:D :run:

#513 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 08:55
by Throttle
To im je mana, sto bi rekli forumski strucnjaci haha

#514 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 09:01
by bitanga_sa_otesa
:lol: :lol: :lol:

#515 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 09:04
by mali_milojica
I uvijek se greška ispravi sa FL modelom :oops:

#516 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 09:04
by sheilak
Throttle wrote:A Touran i Tiguan sto prokisnjavaju, to nista :skoljka:
:mrgreen:
Pa nista naravno samo nazad stave rain edition (r)

#517 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 09:25
by golfiista
mali_milojica wrote:To se ne pika.
Njima kad se to desi, oni to rade sa renomeom i stilom.
:D :run:
:lol:

#518 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 09:27
by golfiista
sheilak wrote:
Throttle wrote:A Touran i Tiguan sto prokisnjavaju, to nista :skoljka:
:mrgreen:
Pa nista naravno samo nazad stave rain edition (r)
Znaci na PIKu "RAIN EDITION" skuplji za milju od obicnog :lol:

Eto koliko se onaj vauvau kocko.trudio.da pronađe nekakve greske i dva dana kasnije ( koliko ga nije bilo ) dođe sa dva slucaja samozapaljenja :lol: u jbt

#519 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 10:05
by vauvau
golfiista wrote:
sheilak wrote:
Throttle wrote:A Touran i Tiguan sto prokisnjavaju, to nista :skoljka:
:mrgreen:
Pa nista naravno samo nazad stave rain edition (r)
Znaci na PIKu "RAIN EDITION" skuplji za milju od obicnog :lol:

Eto koliko se onaj vauvau kocko.trudio.da pronađe nekakve greske i dva dana kasnije ( koliko ga nije bilo ) dođe sa dva slucaja samozapaljenja :lol: u jbt
Dva slučaja? Svašta. Pa to je samo jedan od problema s pouzdanošću kije i hajundaja. Ležajevi točkova crkaju na 30 tisuća kilometara, stup volana neispravan, motor se ugasi u vožnji pri 100 kmh itd.

#520 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 11:36
by basicm
Da dodam rasut zadnji diferencijal na 40 hiljada...

#521 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 13:26
by vauvau
Da, radi se o lošem kvalitetu. Jednostavno nije na nivou europske autoindustrije.

#522 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 13:47
by NediM17
:lol:

rekose ljudi koji kupuju i prodaju raznorazne module od premijuma po piku.

#523 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 13:52
by Nadzornik
basicm wrote:Da dodam rasut zadnji diferencijal na 40 hiljada...
Uh,ja vec imam 42 hiljade,sta sad da radim,
da popravljam ili da mijenjam... :shock:

Bez brige decki,kak da vam velim,sve fercera za peticu,motor se tek razradio,potrosnja polako pada a primjecujem da se i snaga motora povecava.... :thumbup:
Do slijedeceg servisa a to je za 20 hiljada km samo gas i vozi misko.... :bih:

#524 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 14:13
by bitanga_sa_otesa
Nadzornik wrote:potrosnja polako pada a primjecujem da se i snaga motora povecava.... :thumbup:
jesi to bio na Ćipovanju kod krvoloka?

#525 Re: HYUNDAI & KIA all about

Posted: 21/08/2018 14:25
by Throttle
Mozda je zamijenio filtere :lol: