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#51 Re: Britanija Preuzima USA

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Ljudi ba....kako vam stvarno nije jasno da Britanija rules.... :D :D :D :D :D
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#52 Re: Britanija Preuzima USA

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stickitout wrote:Ljudi ba....kako vam stvarno nije jasno da Britanija rules.... :D :D :D :D :D
Koliko rules - nece se ni pojaviti na EURO-u za par dana.

Tuga je to.

Sto se tice nogometa - pricao sam danas s djevojkom koja je imala sanse da ide na Olimpijske igre u nogometu, Nigerkinja koja se rodila u Americi. Po njenom misljenju - nogometa nema u Americi jer nema para. Tj. slabo su nogometasi placeni, tesko se moze napraviti karijera, i uspjehom se smatra da igras par godina "za svoju dusu".

Vise od pola Americke reprezentacije igra u Engleskoj Premijership ligi. Meni se cini prosle godine samo u Fulhamu su igrala 4 igraca Americke reprezentacije. Kad uzmes i dodas - u Engleskoj manje igra Engleza na visokom nivuo nego kojekakvih stranaca.

Prije nekoliko dana je igrala Engleska sa Amerikom - prijateljsku utakmicu, 2-0.

Prije par godina je u Chicagu igrala Engleska utakmicu s Amerikom, 2-1. Bili su jaci, ali ne toliko da se nije moglo zavrsiti izjednaceno.

Beckham agrees five-year $250m LA Galaxy deal

By ESPNsoccernet

David Beckham will leave Real Madrid at the end of the season and join side Los Angeles Galaxy on a £128million ($250 million) five-year deal - which works out at a mere half-a-million pounds a week.

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David Beckham, the embodiment of Real Madrid's 'Galacticos' ethos, will be leaving the famous Bernabeu stadium.

The former England captain will leave Real in June and begin his new career in Major League Soccer in August.

Watch an ESPN interview with David Beckham

Beckham said in a statement: 'This week, Real Madrid asked me to make a decision regarding my future and the offer to extend my contract by a further two seasons.

'After discussing several options with my family and advisers to either stay here at Madrid or join other major British and European clubs, I have decided to join the Los Angeles Galaxy and play in the MLS from August this year.

'I would like to thank the supporters and people of Madrid who have made my family and I feel so welcome in my time here, making this an extremely difficult decision to make.

'I have enjoyed my time in Spain enormously and I am extremely grateful to the club for giving me the opportunity to play for such a great team and their amazing fans.

'I am proud to have played for two of the biggest clubs in football and I look forward to the new challenge of growing the world's most popular game in a country that is as passionate about its sport as my own.

'For the rest of this season I will continue to give 100% to my coach, team mates and fans as I believe Fabio Capello will bring this club and its supporters the success they truly deserve.'

In terms of finances it is a mega deal and compares with the biggest in mainstream US sports American football and baseball.

The MLS have recently changed their salary cap rules to allow sides to make 'marquee signings' of top international stars. The Beckham deal will see the 31-year-old benefit directly from all his image rights and related sponsorship deals which in the past have had to be shared with his club.

He added on Sky Sports News: 'Soccer in America is the biggest played sport up to a certain age. That's where I want to take it (football in the USA) to another level.

'I think potentially it (football) can go higher in America than anyone can believe.

'There are so many great sports in the USA. There are so many kids playing American Football and basketball. Soccer is huge all around the world except in America and that's where I want to make a difference with the kids.

'I don't want to go out to America at 34 and people saying `he's only there to get the money'. I want to hopefully build a club and team that have a lot of potential and that excites me.'

The Real Madrid future of the world's most famous footballer had been shrouded in doubt, especially after coach Fabio Capello this week dropped him from the squad - the first time it had happened to Beckham since he moved from Manchester United in July 2003.

During those three and a half years, Beckham has seen six different coaches appointed while Real have failed to win a single trophy.

Capello's arrival at the start of the season could have heralded a new era for Beckham, who was dropped from new England boss Steve McClaren's squad in August, but instead he found himself often sidelined.

Real had been very keen to keep the midfielder - his marketing power remains a huge draw to fans across the globe - but after talks today he announced he will be moving to Los Angeles.

Beckham admitted it had been a tough decision and insisted he had no regrets about leaving Manchester United for Spain in July 2003, despite Real having failed to win a single honour since then.

He added: 'It has been a huge decision of mine and my family.

'We'll have been living in Spain for four years at the end of this season and I have played for two of the biggest clubs in the world. I have played at the highest level for 15 years and now I think I need another challenge.

'I've no regrets - I have never had any throughout my life and my career,

'To play in the white shirt for four years was an honour. To play with Zinedine Zidane was the biggest honour I have had in my football career, and it was also an honour to play with players such as Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos. For me, there are no regrets.

A statement from the club read: 'Real Madrid have had a meeting with representatives of David Beckham this morning in the offices of the Santiago Bernabeu stadium.

'After this meeting both parties have decided that David will not extend his present contract with the club, which finishes on June 30, 2007.'
1950 godine - u Svjetskom prvenstvu u nogometu - Amerika je eliminirala Englesku s natjecanja. Rezultatom 1-0. Jel trebam da govorim ko je tada bila Engleska, u nogometu, a ko Amerika?

Rezultat toga je knjiga The Game of Their Lives - po kojoj je snimljen i film.

Druga prica je prica NY Cosmo-sa, tima koji je pokusao u Ameriku dovesti nogomet 1980-tih godina. O tome je takodje snimljen dokumentarac - Once in a lifetime - the extrodinary story of NY Cosmos. U timu su svojevremeno igrali sljedeci:

Famous players

* Flag of Scotland Charlie Aitken (1976-77)
* Flag of Brazil Carlos Alberto 1977-80, 1982
* Flag of Germany Franz Beckenbauer 1977-80, 1983
* Flag of Yugoslavia Vladislav Bogićević 1978-84
* Flag of Yugoslavia Ivan Buljan 1981-82
* Flag of Paraguay Roberto Cabañas 1980-84
* Flag of Brazil Marinho Chagas 1979
* Flag of Italy Giorgio Chinaglia 1976-83
* Flag of Northern Ireland Dave Clements 1976
* Flag of the United States Rick Davis 1978-84
* Flag of England Keith Eddy 1976-77
* Flag of Iran Andranik Eskandarian 1979-84
* Flag of England Tony Field 1976-77 [1]
* Flag of England Terry Garbett 1976-79 66 apps 3 goals [2]
* Flag of England Steve Hunt 1977-78, 1982
* Flag of England Godfrey Ingram 1979
* Flag of the United States Shep Messing
* Flag of Peru Ramon Mifflin 1977-83
* Flag of the Netherlands Johan Neeskens 1979-84
* Flag of Turkey Yasin Özdenak 1977-79
* Flag of Brazil Pelé/Edson Arantes do Nascimento 1975-77
* Flag of Paraguay Julio César Romero 1980-83
* Flag of the United States Bobby Smith 1976-79
* Flag of South Africa Jomo Sono
* Flag of Israel Mordechai Spiegler 1974-77
* Flag of England Brian Tinnion (Footballer) (1976)
* Flag of England Dennis Tueart 1978-79 [3]

Yearly average attendance

* 1971 - 4,517
* 1972 - 4,282
* 1973 - 5,782
* 1974 - 3,578
* 1975 - 10,450
* 1976 - 18,227
* 1977 - 34,142
* 1978 - 47,856
* 1979 - 46,690
* 1980 - 42,754
* 1981 - 34,835

* 1982 - 28,479
* 1983 - 27,242
* 1984 - 12,817

Ovo su statistike samo za NY Cosoms. Nazalost, liga u kojoj su igrali je usla u finansijski fijasko, jer NY Cosmos je bio dvije klase ispred svakog drugog tima koje je postojao u to vrijeme u Americi, i nije bilo pretjerano interesatno gledati te meceve. 1985 je liga propala, ja mislim. Nakon nje, polovinom 1990-tih je nastao MLS = Major League Soccer, danasnja Americka fudbalska liga. Samo u zadnje dvije godine, sto ja znam dva tima su napravila nove stadione, jedan od kojih je Chicago Fire - Toyota park, prije toga su igrali na Solider Fieldu - gdje Chicago Bear's igraju football.
Since 1999, the league has seen the construction and completion of six venues specifically designed for soccer. Lamar Hunt broke new ground in this endeavour by financing the construction of Columbus Crew Stadium. The Los Angeles Galaxy followed four years later with the opening of The Home Depot Center in 2003. CD Chivas USA has shared this venue with the Galaxy since their expansion in 2004. It also played host to two consecutive MLS Cups, until FC Dallas' Pizza Hut Park opened in 2005 and hosted the next two championships. Chicago Fire began playing their home games in Toyota Park in 2006, a venue that witnessed the MLS All-Stars defeating Chelsea FC in the All-Star Game, and a US Open Cup championship for the Fire in their first season in the stadium. 2007 saw the opening of Dick's Sporting Goods Park for the Colorado Rapids, and BMO Field for the expansion Toronto FC.
Pizza Hut Park, home of FC Dallas
Pizza Hut Park, home of FC Dallas

Other stadiums are currently under construction. Real Salt Lake Stadium will house Real Salt Lake as early as late 2008, while Red Bull Park, the new home of the New York Red Bulls, began construction in December 2007 with the goal of beginning play there in 2009. D.C. United, the Kansas City Wizards, Houston Dynamo, New England Revolution [12], and the San Jose Earthquakes are actively searching for ways to finance and build their respective stadiums.
Danas ima 14 timova u ligi, s tim da ce do 2010 biti 16, a do 2012 18 timova.

Npr. DC Chivas je meksicki klub koji je premjestio se u Ameriku, tacnije Californiju. FC Toronto je novi tim, ja mislim da se je pridruzio ligi prije godinu - dvije dana.
Major League Soccer has lost more than $350 million since its founding, according to a report by BusinessWeek in 2004.[14] However, there are positive signs for profitability in the near future. As soccer-specific stadiums are built, ownership expands and television coverage increases, MLS has managed to see their revenues increase while costs are kept to a minimum. The 2003 season saw the Los Angeles Galaxy make a profit in their first season at the Home Depot Center,[14] while FC Dallas turned a profit in a similar fashion after moving into Pizza Hut Park in 2005.[citation needed] By the end of the year 2004 MLS recieved a huge boost when it was announced that the popular German sporting brand ADIDAS was going to become the league's primary sponsor. ADIDAS signed a ten year deal with MLS worth an estimated amount of around $150 million. ADIDAS will become the sole uniform supplier for all the clubs in the league and the official Match ball supplier. Television coverage has consistently expanded throughout the league's history, with MLS brokering a deal with ESPN in 2006 for rights fees and greater presence across its networks. The 2007 season saw the return of MLS to Univision and its Spanish-language networks. They joined Fox Soccer Channel and HDNet as MLS' national outlets, for Television deals that were estimated to be around $30 million, while the league has mandated that every league game receive television coverage, if not nationally, then at least locally in one of the two teams' cities for broadcast on its Direct Kick package.
Najbolje je ipak, biti ignoramus i tjerati po svom.

Btw. dana je Amerika izgubila prijateljsku sa Spanijom. 1-0. Gol je pao pred kraj utakmice. To je Spanija koja se sprema za Euro 2008, da napomenem.
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#53 Re: Britanija Preuzima USA

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I sto se navijaca tice, evo da i ovo napisem.

Najbolje sam upoznat sa Chicago Fire navijacima, koji se zovu Section 8. Section 8 se zovu po sekciji na kojoj se nalaze na stadionu. Chicago Fire je klub koji je star 10 godina. Najjace grupe su im Barn Burners 1871 - naziv po pozaru u Chicagu uzrok kojeg je pola grada zapaljeno i izgorijelo. Fire Ultras 1998 - je Poljska grupa. Latin Sector - samo ime kaze - Meksikanci.

Ima vise malih grupica navijackih koje djeluju u Chicagu, evo navescu i neke od njih:

Ultras Red-Side
The Last Ward
WB05
Red Scare
Partisans
Arsonists
Ladder 97
Blitzer Mob
Shandy Sisters
The Western Front


Mix navijaca sastoji se od Poljskih emigranata kojih ima u Chicagu na stotine hiljada, plus Latinosa plus pojedinci od svakuda.

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Koji video clip.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LqxF_dhuX4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5WmMbvv ... re=related

Na turneiju u Columbusu - Ohio - jedan od najvecih rivala Chicago Fire, ponajvise jer nisu toliko daleko - jedni od drugih po pitanju distance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4_iG6AS ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SalLG52z ... re=related

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Da me opet ne bi spopadali kakvi konkre'tasi - ovo je jos uvijek, daleko od one organizacije i ugodaja koji navijaci prave drugdje u svijetu, ali ako uzmemo u obzir da je ovo klub koji je star 10 godina, koji je prije 2 godina napravio svoj stadion i da je mjesto radnje - Amerika, ja samo kazem drago mi je da i to ima.
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ne bih u tu ameriku, pa eto ne znam za sta. jedino za sto im skidam kapu jeste nauka. imaju nacin i sistem da ljude spremne posvetiti se nauci maksimalno motiviraju. ostalo je sve gore nego drugdje.
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encian wrote:ne bih u tu ameriku, pa eto ne znam za sta. jedino za sto im skidam kapu jeste nauka. imaju nacin i sistem da ljude spremne posvetiti se nauci maksimalno motiviraju. ostalo je sve gore nego drugdje.
... a ti nemoj :-)
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jasta....sve je najgore :D :D :D
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slavkoimamodilera wrote:Ma meni su englezi jaki pravo... :D ove sve "lijeve" zemlje nazivaju i dalje "the colonies" umjesto po pravom imenu... :lol:
Ima nesto u onom odvratnom kisnom i vlaznom vremenu sto ljude tjera na to da po cijeli dan smisljaju gluposti i crnjake... i onda se svi kidaju od smijeha na to... k'o kad zivis na alipasinom recimo... :lol:
:D :D

gledam neki dan film neki...idu navijaci Manchestera autobusom u Paris na tekmu PSG-Man Utd i onaj sofer vozi lijevom stranom po Francuskoj i galami: "majmuni jedni, gledate li kud vozite?" :D :D
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#58 Re: Britanija Preuzima USA

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rikardoreis wrote:
slavkoimamodilera wrote:Ma meni su englezi jaki pravo... :D ove sve "lijeve" zemlje nazivaju i dalje "the colonies" umjesto po pravom imenu... :lol:
Ima nesto u onom odvratnom kisnom i vlaznom vremenu sto ljude tjera na to da po cijeli dan smisljaju gluposti i crnjake... i onda se svi kidaju od smijeha na to... k'o kad zivis na alipasinom recimo... :lol:
:D :D

gledam neki dan film neki...idu navijaci Manchestera autobusom u Paris na tekmu PSG-Man Utd i onaj sofer vozi lijevom stranom po Francuskoj i galami: "majmuni jedni, gledate li kud vozite?" :D :D
Vinnie Jones :D :D :D

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:D :D prgavi velsanin :D nije ni sam znao igra li ragbi il' fudbal :D :D
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Saian wrote:
omar little wrote:
ahuseino wrote:
PS Americki fudbal je pravo dobar, kad se zainteresujes :thumbup: , bjzbol - not so much :cry: ...
nemoj mi bejzbol dirat' ja ga bas volim...odlican je sport, kad se naviknes :D
ma ja treba samo malo duzhe vremena :D onoliko, otprilike, koliko traje jedna prosjechna tekma :D :D :D
Ja vala ne znam da l' mi je dosadniji bejzbol ili kriket (bejzbol mi je zehru drazi jer utakmica krace traje :)). A "The The" je, da ne bIDNe zabune, engleski bend :D:

The The -- Heartland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Tov0B-BEQ

Beneath the old iron bridges, across the Victorian parks
And all the frightened people running home before dark
Past the Saturday morning cinema
That lies crumbling to the ground
And the piss stinking shopping centre in the new side of town

I've come to smell the seasons change and watch the city
As the sun goes down again

Here comes another winter
Of long shadows and high hopes
Here comes another winter
Waitin' for utopia
Waitin' for hell to freeze over

This is the land where nothing changes
The land of red buses and blue blooded babies
This is the place where pensioners are raped
And the hearts are being cut from the welfare state

Let the poor drink the milk while the rich eat the honey
Let the bums count their blessings while They count the money

So many people can't express what's on their minds
Nobody knows them, nobody ever will
Until their backs are broken, their dreams are stolen
And they can't get what they want, then they're gonna get angry!
Well it ain't written in the papers but its written on the walls
The way this country is divided to fall
So the cranes are moving on the skyline
Trying to knock down this town
But the stains on the heartland can never be removed
from this country that's sick, sad and confused

The ammunition's being passed and the Lord's been praised
But the wars on the televisions will never be explained
All the bankers gettin' sweaty beneath their white collars
As the pound in our pocket turns into a dollar

This is the 51st state of the U.S.A.
This is the 51st state of the U.S.A.
This is the 51st state of the U.S.A.
This is the 51st state of the U.S.A.
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mozete li vi u ameriKi ostaviti novcanik u motoru i jos i kljuc utaknut, i kad se sjetite da se ne nasekirate i ne zurite natrag? ako izgubite novcanik pun gotovine, mozete li mirno spavati? pustate li cure da hodaju same nocu? smijete li ostaviti nezakljucana vrata i otici mjesec dana na odmor?

DZAPAN RULZ :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Sve je tu negdje u 5 deka,ali brate američki "fudbal" je KRETENSKI sport,a vama američkim"fudbalerima" ako je do strategije onda igrajte ŠAH :D
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encian wrote:mozete li vi u ameriKi ostaviti novcanik u motoru i jos i kljuc utaknut, i kad se sjetite da se ne nasekirate i ne zurite natrag? ako izgubite novcanik pun gotovine, mozete li mirno spavati? pustate li cure da hodaju same nocu? smijete li ostaviti nezakljucana vrata i otici mjesec dana na odmor?

DZAPAN RULZ :D :D :D :D :D :D

Mozemo.
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testament wrote:Sve je tu negdje u 5 deka,ali brate američki "fudbal" je KRETENSKI sport,a vama američkim"fudbalerima" ako je do strategije onda igrajte ŠAH :D
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_ignorance_not_bliss
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