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#51

Posted: 13/09/2006 21:20
by Nosferatu
Dolina avalona wrote:Ma nije problem u tri sestala miliona, problem je sto je on bosnjak iz vremena Izetbegovica!
U zemlji ima milion puta gorih i vecis pljackasa ali niko ih i ne spominje.

Ali bitno je da smo mi njemu po obicaju presudili prije suda. Garant nam fioke pune dokaza protiv njega...!
Nisam ja nikome presudio.

Lik o kojem ti pricas tri i pol godine - odugovlaci da ne izadje pred lice pravde u Bosni i Hercegovini.

Sto to?

Ako je sve - legano i legitimno? Sto bi neko odabrao kucni pritvor na tri i pol godine umjesto pranje obraza?

A, za mene su dokazi Sacirbegoviceve nesposobnosti - mezarja puna Bosanca i Hercegovaca - koji su poginuli
a) cekajuci vojnu intervenciju Zapada
b) cekajuci dizanje sankcija na embargo za oruzije.

Nakon pljacke - treba ga i za ovo suditi.

#52

Posted: 13/09/2006 21:22
by DONY
Nosferatu(citat);

A sad odjebi u skokovima Vehabijskim



:thumbup:
To @nosferatu,hajde @bleka na hladjenje....

#53

Posted: 13/09/2006 21:26
by mIRCerka
bleka wrote:
induendo wrote:Meni je nejasno po kojoj osnovi je Aziza dobila ulicu? :-) Vjerovatno po partijskoj osnovi. :roll:
Ničim nije zadužila ovu državu.
Lijepo što nam se Šaćirbej junior vraća.Playboy mali. :D
Evo zelio bih recimo skrenuti paznju administracije na ovaj i slican post. A kada se sjetimo UDBASA, NARCISA, STALJINA njegove mamice koja je od strikanja i pravljenja pita mladog STaljina slala u USA onda se prijeti banom.
Sto ti je demokratija i sloboda govora.
kompleksi rade vidim... tebi je Zlatko u krvi...cudo i temu dobro jutro ne pocastis nekim antistaljinistickim komentarom...Sacirbey nije vrijedan komentara, dabogda mu te pare trebale za lijekove i ne imao dovoljno... zna on dobro zasto...
sto se njegove majke tice, koliko se sjecam zena je bila jedna od prvih doktorica bosnjakinja, robijala takodjer, i nakon toga otisla u ameriku...odakle nas je "branio" muhamed...jednako ko haris iz turske...jednako ko ti iz svice sad ... :D

#54

Posted: 13/09/2006 21:32
by Latina
In July 2004, he was released on US$6 million bail and had to submit to electronic monitoring.
Da, skacemo na 8 500 000 $.

Je li poznato ko je platio kauciju ? Ko to ima 6 000 000 $ da uplati kauciju jednoj osobi ?

Ne dajte se zbuniti. Da Muhamed Sacirbej nije ono sto jeste, kao sto rece Nosferatu, vec odavno bismo ga vidjeli na sudjenu u BiH.

Vrijeme je da idu. Dosta je.

#55

Posted: 13/09/2006 21:38
by bos
@bleka

nema smisla boriti se sa ovakvom ekipom, gubis i vrijeme i zivce
:)

a to sto jos nikad i nigdje nije dokazano da je pomenuti kriv nije ni vazno ^^

Izaberi...:P

#56

Posted: 13/09/2006 21:49
by Latina
bos wrote:bleka

nema smisla boriti se sa ovakvom ekipom, gubis i vrijeme i zivce
:)
Moja ekipa se zove postenje.

Kako se zove tvoja ekipa ?
a to sto jos nikad i nigdje nije dokazano da je pomenuti kriv nije ni vazno ^^
Evo samo za tvoje oci - jos jednom, jer sa ovome nema sta dodati niti oduzeti.
Nosferatu wrote:Nisam ja nikome presudio.

Lik o kojem ti pricas tri i pol godine - odugovlaci da ne izadje pred lice pravde u Bosni i Hercegovini.

Sto to?

Ako je sve - legano i legitimno? Sto bi neko odabrao kucni pritvor na tri i pol godine umjesto pranje obraza?

A, za mene su dokazi Sacirbegoviceve nesposobnosti - mezarja puna Bosanca i Hercegovaca - koji su poginuli
a) cekajuci vojnu intervenciju Zapada
b) cekajuci dizanje sankcija na embargo za oruzje.

#57

Posted: 13/09/2006 21:51
by mIRCerka
Former Bosnian UN Envoy Accused
of Financial Fraud
By R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post
September 6, 2001

Financial police in Bosnia have leveled detailed accusations of economic fraud against the man who was the government's spokesman to the world during the 1992-95 Bosnian war.Muhamed Sacirbey, the former U.N. ambassador and foreign minister, is at the center of an investigation in which Bosnian auditors looked at the books of the country's U.N. mission in New York and concluded that $610,982 in government funds had disappeared last year, officials here said.The auditors also concluded that "fictitious bookkeeping" was used to hide what happened so that Sacirbey could try to pay it back.

In a telephone interview, Sacirbey denied wrongdoing, saying that because of the difficulties of governing in postwar chaos, money was sometimes moved without full authorization but was always spent on official Bosnian government business. "Nowhere did I profit personally," he said.

Sacirbey, who holds both U.S. and Bosnian citizenship, was a frequent presence on American television news during the war, speaking eloquently of the suffering of Bosnian Muslims at the hands of Serb paramilitary forces and helping to raise foreign donations. He was replaced as U.N. ambassador in December after a change of government in Bosnia, and now works for ICN Pharmaceuticals Inc. in New York.

Authorities in Bosnia have not accepted his explanations. The financial police concluded that some of the missing funds were transferred to Sacirbey's personal bank account at Chase Manhattan Bank in New York. When confronted, he provided a "confused and contradictory" explanation of the transfers, according to a copy of the audit.

The diverted funds included more than $90,000 meant to help improve the capability of Bosnian Muslim soldiers through a U.S.-administered program known as "Train and Equip," according to the audit. The funds -- which Sacirbey says did not come from foreign donors -- were deposited in Sacirbey's personal account and later withdrawn as cash, it states."In the first moment, I did not believe it was true," Zlatko Lagumdzija, Bosnia's current foreign minister and, like Sacirbey, a Muslim, said in an interview about the fraud allegations. But after reviewing the audit, "the evidence was so obvious," he said, and now "we are waiting for the prosecutor to do his job."

Sacirbey said the allegations were the government's revenge for his public criticism of its policies. He denied that any funds were deposited into his own account, and said he resented "being held accountable to a system I was not accountable to when I was asked to do this job."Sacirbey said that sometimes he paid bills that the Foreign Ministry had insincerely promised to pay, and that he also was sometimes ordered to spend money "in a convoluted way" to circumvent opposition from the ethnic Croat and Serb officials who shared authority in Bosnia's multi-ethnic government.

In Bosnia, the allegations swirling around Sacirbey have impugned the reputation of the Party for Democratic Action, which controlled the Muslim-dominated territory of this ethnically divided country and many of its embassies from 1992 until the party was ousted by a Western-backed coalition in elections last fall.Bosnia's current prime minister, Alijah Behmen, said in an interview that it was "really certain that the money disappeared" at the mission in New York.

In an undated letter to former Bosnian president Alija Izetbegovic after the audit, Sacirbey acknowledged using $609,253 from consular fees collected at the mission to pay expenses not approved by the Foreign Ministry. He also said, "Mr. President I remind you that for these expenses I could not, nor was I allowed, to ask the consent from anyone but you."Izetbegovic tartly replied in a letter that Sacirbey's explanations were "absolutely unacceptable" and denied approving Sacirbey's claimed payments of $292,000 in cash to lawyers representing Bosnia at the International Court of Justice in The Hague -- payments for which the auditors said Sacirbey never presented receipts.

"Funds could have been approved" for the lawyers through normal channels, Izetbegovic said in the letter. "However, the approval for it should have been requested in due time and well documented." He said Sacirbey should "come to Sarajevo immediately" and "bring documents."Sacirbey said in the interview that "I don't really have any reason to go back" and doubted he would get a fair hearing.

The U.N. mission funded its operations partly from the Foreign Ministry's budget and partly with revenue from consular fees, which totaled roughly $1.3 million in 2000. But hundreds of thousands of dollars from such fees were never deposited into embassy accounts, according to the audit.The mission spent much more than the Foreign Ministry had approved for its employees' vacation pay, travel expenses, child care, apartment and automobile rentals, advertising and entertainment, the auditors said.

In particular, the auditors said that last October, shortly before Sacirbey's party lost power, the Foreign Ministry dispatched an accountant to New York to alter records of sizable, unreturned travel advances given to Sacirbey. The accountant explained at the time that the changes were "of a temporary nature . . . to give the ambassador more time to pay back the money," according to a written statement by Ajisa Dervisevic, a cashier at the mission.In his undated letter, Sacirbey said that he not only made unapproved payments for Bosnia's lawsuit against Yugoslavia at The Hague, but traveled there repeatedly between 1998 and 2000 at a total cost of $112,000. The auditors rejected this claim, noting that "there were no major activities concerning this lawsuit in 2000" and that Sacirbey had not presented evidence to back up his claims.
ako treba prevesti, samo javite.... :roll:

#58

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:04
by njonjica
dripac wrote:Šačirbej smrdi
praaavoooo :oops:

#59

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:09
by Latina
vacation pay, travel expenses, child care, apartment and automobile rentals

Ovim je ukratko opisan karakter doticnog lika.

entertainment
A ovo je nadaleko i nasiroko poznata Muhamedova ljubav prema kockanju.

Aferim ! :x :x :x

#60

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:10
by PITARKA_SA
a odakle je to NAS branio doticni gospodin???
jedino sto nas je branio je sto nam je "olaksao"dzepove a svoje podebljo za ugodan zivot vani,a mi ga vamo p*simo zbog njega i takvih kao sto je on,kratko i jasno ,LOPOVA!!!
a bas mi je drago,da po ko zna koji put,dijaspora nama smrtnicima otvara oci,hvala vam jos jednom,beskrajno :D :D

#61

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:12
by pape
:D Ne budite naivni. Ovo izrucenje u Bosnu njemu ide na ruku. Nase pravosudje mu ni perku nece odbiti. Kad ne mogu stati u kraj sibicarima, kako ce stati u kraj lopini svjetskog kalibra. :oops: :zzzz:

#62

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:12
by mIRCerka
Latinica wrote:
vacation pay, travel expenses, child care, apartment and automobile rentals

Ovim je ukratko opisan karakter doticnog lika.

entertainment
A ovo je nadaleko i nasiroko poznata Muhamedova ljubav prema kockanju.

Aferim ! :x :x :x
nemoj tako, Sacirbey je dobar cim je "nas" :D

ako ono gore nisu dokazi, ako im nije dovoljno sto je Alija rekao da nije odobrio, onda ne znam kakve dokaze traze....
"on je mnogo dobra ucinio govoreci u ime bosne u americi" ...bla bla bla
a Amerika , po obicaju, "nije znala" sta se desava...how yes no :D

#63

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:14
by mIRCerka
pape wrote::D Ne budite naivni. Ovo izrucenje u Bosnu njemu ide na ruku. Nase pravosudje mu ni perku nece odbiti. Kad ne mogu stati u kraj sibicarima, kako ce stati u kraj lopini svjetskog kalibra. :oops: :zzzz:
nije poenta sta ce biti ovamo kad dodje, vec je poenta sto se unatoc dokazima, crno na bijelom, neki kunu u njega i dizu ga u zvijezde i lamentiraju ... ako je "nas" svaki grijeh mu se mora oprostiti....ebo to....

#64

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:16
by danas
mIRCerka wrote:ako je "nas" svaki grijeh mu se mora oprostiti....ebo to....
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

a kako bi ti da bude, majke ti? :D

#65

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:17
by PITARKA_SA
mIRCerka wrote:
pape wrote::D Ne budite naivni. Ovo izrucenje u Bosnu njemu ide na ruku. Nase pravosudje mu ni perku nece odbiti. Kad ne mogu stati u kraj sibicarima, kako ce stati u kraj lopini svjetskog kalibra. :oops: :zzzz:
nije poenta sta ce biti ovamo kad dodje, vec je poenta sto se unatoc dokazima, crno na bijelom, neki kunu u njega i dizu ga u zvijezde i lamentiraju ... ako je "nas" svaki grijeh mu se mora oprostiti....ebo to....
Da,upravo tako,on je nas i pobozan je ,ja cisto sumnjam da je to uradio..sta me briga za optuznice ja mu vjerujem na rijec :D :D :D :D

#66

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:19
by danas
PITARKA_SA wrote: Da,upravo tako,on je nas i pobozan je ,ja cisto sumnjam da je to uradio..sta me briga za optuznice ja mu vjerujem na rijec :D :D :D :D
i ja vala :D
kome cu ako necu svom :D ha ja... :D

#67

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:20
by mIRCerka
danas wrote:
mIRCerka wrote:ako je "nas" svaki grijeh mu se mora oprostiti....ebo to....
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

a kako bi ti da bude, majke ti? :D
ja bih onako kako ne mEre :D

mislim, koje licemjerstvo od strane nekih forumasha....
Ode Ivo Miro Jovic na olimpijadu, povede sina, i ovdje mu psuju kosti mrtvih pradjedova... ja kazem OK, drzavnim parama to radi, treba ga kazniti...

ode dodik drzavnim parama, avionom, na SP, ovdje mu prebiru kosti pradjedova...ok, slazem se, isto kao za IMJ....

Ovaj pronevjeri brdo para, a neki bi mu spomenik dizali...samo zato sto je "nas"....

:povrac:

#68

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:21
by njonjica
Moderacija, ovom forumu ZAISTA treba smajli koji povraca.

#69

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:30
by pape
PITARKA_SA wrote:
mIRCerka wrote:
pape wrote::D Ne budite naivni. Ovo izrucenje u Bosnu njemu ide na ruku. Nase pravosudje mu ni perku nece odbiti. Kad ne mogu stati u kraj sibicarima, kako ce stati u kraj lopini svjetskog kalibra. :oops: :zzzz:
nije poenta sta ce biti ovamo kad dodje, vec je poenta sto se unatoc dokazima, crno na bijelom, neki kunu u njega i dizu ga u zvijezde i lamentiraju ... ako je "nas" svaki grijeh mu se mora oprostiti....ebo to....
Da,upravo tako,on je nas i pobozan je ,ja cisto sumnjam da je to uradio..sta me briga za optuznice ja mu vjerujem na rijec :D :D :D :D
:oops: Jel` to sada vise nema veze sto je vod`o bjelosvjetske kurave i senlucio na nas racun dok se ovdje ginulo? Jel` to kocka vise nije haram ? Pun mi je kufer ovakih poboznjaka i onih koji ga brane iz "nasih" razloga. :roll:

#70

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:31
by mIRCerka
pape, pitarka se ba shali, sakrzam nas uhvatio...
nemoj nam Muhameda dirat, on je ba dove U2 u Sarajevo...
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#71

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:36
by PITARKA_SA
eno,optuzise me ni krivu ni duznu..a ja sam samo pravi patriota ove zemlje :D Sachira for preSiDeNtA :D

#72

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:37
by pape
mIRCerka wrote:pape, pitarka se ba shali, sakrzam nas uhvatio....
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:-) Joooj Mirci, .... ti profesoru sarkazma ... :D ... objasnjavas da se pitarka salila, .... :D

#73

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:40
by Nosferatu
PITARKA_SA wrote:eno,optuzise me ni krivu ni duznu..a ja sam samo pravi patriota ove zemlje :D Sachira for preSiDeNtA :D
Posto je Sacirbay bio na Tulane University na fudbalskoj skolarini, ja predlazem da nasljedi Sliskovica - kao selektor repke BiH jer nama Bosnjama se svidja taj kockarski mentalitet.

Da vidimo kako se igra bunker pod opsadom. I da mu cijeli stadion pjeva "Da te nije Alija"...

#74

Posted: 13/09/2006 22:40
by mIRCerka
pape wrote:
mIRCerka wrote:pape, pitarka se ba shali, sakrzam nas uhvatio....
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:-) Joooj Mirci, .... ti profesoru sarkazma ... :D ... objasnjavas da se pitarka salila, .... :D
suti, do zivota mi nije, zuc me napada vec dva dana... jos kad ovo procitah...ma javicu se sutra iz hitne... :D

#75

Posted: 13/09/2006 23:11
by Dezze
mIRCerka wrote:
bleka wrote:
induendo wrote:Meni je nejasno po kojoj osnovi je Aziza dobila ulicu? :-) Vjerovatno po partijskoj osnovi. :roll:
Ničim nije zadužila ovu državu.
Lijepo što nam se Šaćirbej junior vraća.Playboy mali. :D
Evo zelio bih recimo skrenuti paznju administracije na ovaj i slican post. A kada se sjetimo UDBASA, NARCISA, STALJINA njegove mamice koja je od strikanja i pravljenja pita mladog STaljina slala u USA onda se prijeti banom.
Sto ti je demokratija i sloboda govora.
kompleksi rade vidim... tebi je Zlatko u krvi...cudo i temu dobro jutro ne pocastis nekim antistaljinistickim komentarom...Sacirbey nije vrijedan komentara, dabogda mu te pare trebale za lijekove i ne imao dovoljno... zna on dobro zasto...
sto se njegove majke tice, koliko se sjecam zena je bila jedna od prvih doktorica bosnjakinja, robijala takodjer, i nakon toga otisla u ameriku...odakle nas je "branio" muhamed...jednako ko haris iz turske...jednako ko ti iz svice sad ... :D
@bleka
Lagano, al' posve lagano, zavuce ti ga u guzu :D