#51 Re: Cernobil-20 godina poslije
Posted: 15/05/2019 00:50
Ima na HBO GO_BataZiv_0809 wrote:Nema je jos online.Altsa wrote:Druga jos bolja_BataZiv_0809 wrote:Jaka prva epizoda.
Ima na HBO GO_BataZiv_0809 wrote:Nema je jos online.Altsa wrote:Druga jos bolja_BataZiv_0809 wrote:Jaka prva epizoda.
Ne možeš ovo poredit sa Hirosimom, nije to bila klasicna eksplozija kao atomska bomba, u Černobilu je glavna steta nastala rasipanjem zagađenog-ozračenog raznog materijalakaranana wrote:koji ljudi?
54 poginulo od eksplozije. da eksplozija kao eksplozija je vatrena vruca i ubija. sve ostalo su spekulacije. kazu da je mozda 4000 umrlo od posljedica nakon nesrece. iskreno meni je mal broj poginulih u eksploziji jer ako smo vidjeli hirosimu ona je spalila sve u krugu od nekoliko kilometara a grad velicine sarajeva na 3 kilometra od eksplozije, ljudi bili tu 24-36 sati nakon eksplozije, kako to da svi nisu pomrli?
cekam mozda da se svih 6 zavrsi pa da pogledam propagandu i ublehu.
Bas tako. Najveci problem je bio sirenje kontaminiranog oblaka prema evropi i sovjetskim republikama + stanovnistvo koje je zivjelo uz elektranu.mayab wrote:Ne možeš ovo poredit sa Hirosimom, nije to bila klasicna eksplozija kao atomska bomba, u Černobilu je glavna steta nastala rasipanjem zagađenog-ozračenog raznog materijalakaranana wrote:koji ljudi?
54 poginulo od eksplozije. da eksplozija kao eksplozija je vatrena vruca i ubija. sve ostalo su spekulacije. kazu da je mozda 4000 umrlo od posljedica nakon nesrece. iskreno meni je mal broj poginulih u eksploziji jer ako smo vidjeli hirosimu ona je spalila sve u krugu od nekoliko kilometara a grad velicine sarajeva na 3 kilometra od eksplozije, ljudi bili tu 24-36 sati nakon eksplozije, kako to da svi nisu pomrli?
cekam mozda da se svih 6 zavrsi pa da pogledam propagandu i ublehu.
pogledah prvu epizodu. nisam skonto, sta je odvrtanje vode uradilo? tj. sta bi se jos desilo da se voda nije odvrnula?dječak sa šibicama wrote:u Zonu iskljucenja se ulazi na licnu odgovornost, neki su se i vratili i zive tamo, uglavnom stariji ljudi.
Eto da nije ove serije, ne bi ni znao da smo zahvaljujuci trojici ljudi, izbjegli puno vecu katastrofu i vjerovatno smrt mnogih od nas, da nisu ispustili tu vodu iz tankova ispod reaktora, pola Europe bi otislo u 3 pm a Ukrajina i Bjelorusija danas ne bi ni postojale, tamo ne bi zivio niko, stradalo bi 60 miliona ljudi samo u tom "uzem krugu" oko Cernobila i cijela istocna Europa bi bila prakticno unistena.
800,000 people, known as liquidators, were involved in the clean up after the accident. According to figures previously issued by government agencies in Belarus, Ukraine and Russia, about 25 000 of the liquidators have so far died as a result of their exposure to radiation. According to the Liquidators’ Committee, the total number of deaths is 100 000.




ja licno mislim da pola njih nije znalo s cim se susrece..dalo im gas maske i neka gumirana odijela i reklo idi cisti90minut wrote:Tih 800 hiljada su jedni od vecih heroja ikad bukvalno su znali da su dobre šanse da ce umrijeti.
bitanga_sa_otesa wrote:ja licno mislim da pola njih nije znalo s cim se susrece..dalo im gas maske i neka gumirana odijela i reklo idi cisti90minut wrote:Tih 800 hiljada su jedni od vecih heroja ikad bukvalno su znali da su dobre šanse da ce umrijeti.
90minut wrote:
Jašta su nego znali, znali su ljudi i 86 dobro šta je radijacija.
The Pripyat department of the Ministry of Home Affairs calls a crisis meeting. It is decided to organize a road block in order to prevent cars from entering or leaving the town. Police assistance is requested. Thousands of police arrive; and, as with the fire fighters, they have no knowledge of radiation, no dosimeters or protective clothing.
We didn’t know much about radiation. Even those who worked there had no idea. There was no water left in the trucks. Misha filled a cistern and we aimed the water at the top. Then those boys who died went up to the roof – Vashchik, Kolya and others, and Volodya Pravik…. They went up the ladder … and I never saw them again.

On October 31, 2008, four residents of the Kyiv region were found guilty of trying to removed 15 tons of contaminated, radioactive scrap metal from the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. A judge in the Ivankov District Court of Kyiv found the individuals in violation of the requirements of radiation safety. Radiation from this scrap was found to be hundreds of times higher than permissible limits.
Prosecutors in the Kyiv region and the General Directorate had begun investigating organised crime and corruption in the Ukrainian Security Service. The task force found that two of the people involved in the crime were members of the police force.
The verdict, announced on October 31, found all four guilty of the crimes and imprisoned.
Around that time two residents of the Ivankiv District were also arrested while trying to remove the metal from the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone without proper documentation.
Looting has always been an issue in the zone. Most valuable articles, such as cars and electrical appliances were deliberately crushed or broken after the accident to prevent theft but many former residents believe a considerable amount of their belongings were in fact stolen. “Even if we considered it, we were too busy and too scared to do it” reports a former liquidator but in the early to mid nineties it was not uncommon for buyers to check the radiation level of household goods for sale at markets.
Sergey Chernenky was stationed in the zone soon after the accident and was responsible for catching looters, who were numerous. These people wanted to make money selling contaminated goods in the markets of Kiev. Sergey recalls that two people once tried to steal a car from the zone. They were able to drive a short distance before they died. The contaminated car had a radiation reading of 6000 roentgen.
nista bolji od nas..._BataZiv_0809 wrote:Ima tu i do mentaliteta naroda. Sovjeti su specificni.
U mnogim stvarima, da, vrlo smo slični.bitanga_sa_otesa wrote:nista bolji od nas..._BataZiv_0809 wrote:Ima tu i do mentaliteta naroda. Sovjeti su specificni.
Nije bilo puno mrtvih jer detonacija eksplozija je isla u zrak/vertikalno i veoma malo horizontalno. Zato su 3 reaktora ostala citava i nastavili sa radom. Ljudi su i dalje isli na posao da rade na tim reaktorima, dok su helikooteri kruzili nad 4. reaktoru i pokusavali da ga zatvore.karanana wrote:koji ljudi?
54 poginulo od eksplozije. da eksplozija kao eksplozija je vatrena vruca i ubija. sve ostalo su spekulacije. kazu da je mozda 4000 umrlo od posljedica nakon nesrece. iskreno meni je mal broj poginulih u eksploziji jer ako smo vidjeli hirosimu ona je spalila sve u krugu od nekoliko kilometara a grad velicine sarajeva na 3 kilometra od eksplozije, ljudi bili tu 24-36 sati nakon eksplozije, kako to da svi nisu pomrli?
cekam mozda da se svih 6 zavrsi pa da pogledam propagandu i ublehu.
bitanga_sa_otesa wrote:
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The Elephant’s Foot is a large mass of black corium with many layers, externally resembling tree bark and glass. It was formed during the Chernobyl disaster in April 1986, and discovered in December 1986
At the time of its discovery, radioactivity near the Elephant’s Foot was approximately 10000 roentgens, or 100 grays per hour, delivering a 50/50 lethal dose of radiation (4.5 grays)in less than three minutes. Since that time the radiation intensity has declined enough that, in 1996, the Elephant's Foot was visited by the Deputy Director of the New Confinement Project, Artur Kornayev,[a] who took photographs using an automatic camera and a flashlight to illuminate the otherwise dark room.
The Elephant's Foot had penetrated through at least 2 m (6 ft 7 in) of concrete to get to its current location. There were fears that it may continue to penetrate deeper into the ground and come into contact with groundwater, contaminating the area's drinking water and leading to illnesses and deaths; however, as of 2019, the mass has not moved significantly since its discovery and is estimated to be only slightly warmer than its environment due to heat from the ongoing nuclear decay.
Nidje veze.TESLA_EDISON wrote:Sreća pa je tada predsjednik SSSR-a bio Gorbačov. Zamislite Staljina u toj situaciji. Umjesto da rješava problem, on bi strijeljao redom sve fizičare, hemičare i radnike a Evropa bi onda otišla u 3PM.