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#4926 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 06/11/2022 05:11
by geralt
Red za rano glasanje na Univerzitetu u Teksasu u Austinu, niko nije odustao ni izasao iz reda. Ako sam dobro skontao, ovo je 7 ujutro pred otvaranje biralista.
Kakav nevjerovatan entuzijazam za demokratiju. Kada uporedim sa nasom omladinom, place mi se.
#4927 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 06/11/2022 14:41
by Copper
geralt wrote: ↑06/11/2022 05:11
Red za rano glasanje na Univerzitetu u Teksasu u Austinu, niko nije odustao ni izasao iz reda. Ako sam dobro skontao, ovo je 7 ujutro pred otvaranje biralista.
Bit ce super, kada se cuje kmecanje fasisoidnih krezavnih polupismenih divljaka koji glasaju za Republikance. Ove izbore ima da Demokratska Partija razvali i prezme vecinu, i mnogi ce izabrati Demokrate kao guvernere, jer im je dosta vise fasista koji zive u 1880. godini, gdje im je jedino argumenat stop abortusu, gejevi zele nasu djecu.
#4928 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 06/11/2022 15:32
by jeza u ledja
Copper wrote: ↑06/11/2022 14:41
geralt wrote: ↑06/11/2022 05:11
Red za rano glasanje na Univerzitetu u Teksasu u Austinu, niko nije odustao ni izasao iz reda. Ako sam dobro skontao, ovo je 7 ujutro pred otvaranje biralista.
Bit ce super, kada se cuje kmecanje fasisoidnih krezavnih polupismenih divljaka koji glasaju za Republikance. Ove izbore ima da Demokratska Partija razvali i prezme vecinu, i mnogi ce izabrati Demokrate kao guvernere, jer im je dosta vise fasista koji zive u 1880. godini, gdje im je jedino argumenat stop abortusu, gejevi zele nasu djecu.

#4929 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 06/11/2022 18:18
by sinuhe
CIme je Nancy Pelosi zaduzila elektorat da odnosi ovako ubjedljive pobjede i osvoji i preko 80% glasova?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral ... ncy_Pelosi
Novac igra ulogu do neke granice ali je Californija gdje ima novca i 'mislecih' ljudi. Ili su samo Reagan, Nixon, i Nancy.
#4930 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 06/11/2022 21:30
by geralt
sinuhe wrote: ↑06/11/2022 18:18
CIme je Nancy Pelosi zaduzila elektorat da odnosi ovako ubjedljive pobjede i osvoji i preko 80% glasova?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral ... ncy_Pelosi
Novac igra ulogu do neke granice ali je Californija gdje ima novca i 'mislecih' ljudi. Ili su samo Reagan, Nixon, i Nancy.
Taj distrikt je za demokrate ono sto su Grude za HDZ. Da si ti tamo kandidat demokrata za Kongres, i ti bi imao preko 80% glasova.
#4931 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 06/11/2022 22:39
by Rob_Atl
Slabo vise ima ko da glasa za kandidata koji je bolji, vec striktno se glasa kojoj partiji pripadas. Neki dan jedna od ovih desnicara na podcastu govori, ne zanima me jel ko nekog silovao , ja zelim samo kontrolu u senatu pod svaku cijenu.

. Republikanci definitivno imaju budale kao kandidate,al sve i jedan il vodi ili je gusto, pa prije 10 godina ovakve budale nebi imale ni 5 posto glasova. Glasam obicno za demokrate, al ove godine cu glasati za Kempa kao guvernera Georgie, a za senat cu demokrate. Jer ova sto ide protiv njega ne znam, previse vuce u lijevo, i samo crnci ovo, crnci ono. Kemp se suprostavio Trumpu onda i opet je izasao kao pobjednik, plus ja mislim kao drzava da imamo najbolju ekonomiji u Americi. Nije lose

#4932 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 06/11/2022 23:20
by jeza u ledja
Za to sluze predizbori, samo sto vrlo malo ljudi na njima glasa.
A danas su stranke tako polarizovane da je vrlo tesko naci kandidata koji je bolji u onoj drugoj stranci. Ja licno u ovakvoj GOP nikad ne bi glasao ni za koga iz te stranke.
#4933 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 07/11/2022 04:13
by ultima_palabra
geralt wrote: ↑06/11/2022 21:30
sinuhe wrote: ↑06/11/2022 18:18
CIme je Nancy Pelosi zaduzila elektorat da odnosi ovako ubjedljive pobjede i osvoji i preko 80% glasova?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral ... ncy_Pelosi
Novac igra ulogu do neke granice ali je Californija gdje ima novca i 'mislecih' ljudi. Ili su samo Reagan, Nixon, i Nancy.
Taj distrikt je za demokrate ono sto su Grude za HDZ. Da si ti tamo kandidat demokrata za Kongres, i ti bi imao preko 80% glasova.
A i uvijek je plus da neko tako mocan predstavlja tvoj distrikt. Bude tu koristi.
#4934 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 07/11/2022 04:36
by jeza u ledja
U kontekstu price od preneki dan:
Effects of Brazil’s Jan. 6 moment — like America’s — will linger
When it became clear that Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro, also known as the “Trump of the tropics,” would fail to get reelected, fears of a Brazilian Jan. 6 began to grow louder. How would a president, who had been spreading false allegations of election fraud and who said that he would only accept the results of the elections if he won, react to losing the election to a well-known challenger?
Now we know the answer.
Like Trump, Bolsonaro did not admit to being defeated. Like Trump, Bolsonaro fed a legion of supporters — who also did not accept the outcome of the elections — with a daily dose of fake news through social media.
As it turned out, Brazil did have its own version of Jan 6. Instead of an uncontrolled mob storming Congress while the president watched passively, there was an uncontrolled mob blocking roads and highways all over the country while the president watched passively.
The largest airport in Brazil had to cancel several flights because people could not go through a roadblock led by truck drivers. But while it took Trump a few hours to decide to call on the protesters to “go home,” Bolsonaro did not bother to say anything during roughly 48 hours after the elections. When he finally appeared after two days of silence, he gave a short two-minute speech in which he did not explicitly concede the election and did not mention the name of his opponent, Lula da Silva.
Why did Bolsonaro take so long to make a pronouncement? One possible reason is that he was waiting to see how the protests that followed the elections would play out and what kind of support he could have in contesting election results. But the protests did not gain broader traction, and no relevant media, religious, military, or political figure spoke out in support of the protests.
The always pragmatic Brazilian political class quickly began to think about strategies for survival in a post-Bolsonaro environment. The powerful president of the Chamber of Deputies, a strong supporter of Bolsonaro, declared that “the will of the majority, as it is expressed in the polls, can never be contested” and started negotiations with the team of the newly elected president to secure his position in the future Lula administration. Therefore, in the 48 hours following the election, Bolsonaro became increasingly isolated. When he finally decided to break his silence, he concluded that his best option would be to reinforce his position as a political leader, thanking his supporters and stating that now “the right has really emerged in our country.”
One lesson Americans may take from elections in Brazil is that when dealing with incumbent would-be authoritarian presidents seeking reelection, the speed of the vote counting matters. Having a nationalized system of electronic voting — used for over a quarter of a century — Brazilians could know the election results a few hours after polls closed. Before Bolsonaro could muster a single word, world leaders, with Biden ahead, had already congratulated his challenger; politicians who supported Bolsonaro had accepted defeat, and even his vice-president, an army general, had begun discussing the transition. The speed at which it all happened left little room for maneuvering. In the United States, on the other hand, it took days for voters to know the results, giving Trump and his supporters enough time to make false allegations of election fraud and to contest the results when they were finally known.
Like in the case of the United States, Brazil’s relatively young democracy will also suffer the consequences of the behavior of a president who did not follow the basic rules of political decorum. Even though things might appear normal, with the newly elected president taking charge following constructional procedures, the social marks will linger.
Bolsonaro, like Trump, will no longer hold office — but Bolsonarismo, like Trumpism, will remain a powerful political force for years to come.
The deterioration of civic political culture that formed the basis of their appeal is already a reality no matter who leads the executive. And if Trump recaptures the White House in 2024 — which is far from being an impossibility — his Brazilian pupil, who is a decade younger, will undoubtedly be watching.
https://thehill.com/opinion/internation ... l-linger/
Ni ovaj se nije uspio odrzati na vlasti silom, tj. nije se usudio pokusati.
Svima dodje kraj.

Kad mogu Brazilci, moze vala i Amerika.
#4935 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 07/11/2022 05:51
by sinuhe
geralt wrote: ↑06/11/2022 21:30
sinuhe wrote: ↑06/11/2022 18:18
CIme je Nancy Pelosi zaduzila elektorat da odnosi ovako ubjedljive pobjede i osvoji i preko 80% glasova?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral ... ncy_Pelosi
Novac igra ulogu do neke granice ali je Californija gdje ima novca i 'mislecih' ljudi. Ili su samo Reagan, Nixon, i Nancy.
Taj distrikt je za demokrate ono sto su Grude za HDZ. Da si ti tamo kandidat demokrata za Kongres, i ti bi imao preko 80% glasova.
Nije obavezno da protukandidat bude Republikanac ni na primary ni na generalnim izborima. Nije ona jedina ali bizarno da politicar moze imati toliku podrsku decenijama.
#4936 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 07/11/2022 12:41
by saimidin
sinuhe wrote: ↑07/11/2022 05:51
geralt wrote: ↑06/11/2022 21:30
Taj distrikt je za demokrate ono sto su Grude za HDZ. Da si ti tamo kandidat demokrata za Kongres, i ti bi imao preko 80% glasova.
Nije obavezno da protukandidat bude Republikanac ni na primary ni na generalnim izborima. Nije ona jedina ali bizarno da politicar moze imati toliku podrsku decenijama.
Pa desi se ponekad da neko novi uskoci, aoc je jedan primjer
Nansi je aktivna I vjerovatno donosi svom distriktu neke/mnoge koristi, ali ako je neko spavac kao taj lik sto ga aoc pomela
Ali ima klip iz te emisije, gost sa cnn zakaria, kaze tesko je reci ko ce pobijediti, ali def ce biti shit show
I to je najtacnije, a iz toga se moze izroditi I ovo sto bil misli, u principu klasicna desnicarska oligarhija podrzana od big corp.
Usa na unutarnjem planu jeste nestabilna, ali nije im prvi puta, pa imali su civil war, I posle postali br 1, jer oni imaju srece da su omedjeni okeanima, a kan/mex su mnogo slabiji, tako da im to daje vremena da se presaberu I opet pojave kao br 1
Naravno za to vrijeme svijet moze I vjerovatno hoce otici u ...
#4937 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 07/11/2022 19:07
by sumirprimus
Jos jedan klip reda z glasanje
Mozemo mi o amerima pricat sta hocemo ali im samo mozemo zavidit. Direktno demokratija na djelu, i mladi glasaju. A ne ko u ovim banana drzavama gdje je feud pod strogom kontrolom vladajuce kaste od nas ko raspale drzave do ovih autokratskih banana hrvatske madjarske srbije ii slicnih. Rusije turske egipta saudije irana venezuele kube sjeverne koreje kine azerbejdzana itd..
#4938 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 08/11/2022 03:19
by corolla02
prvi put nakon toliko vremena, ne glasamo na izborima
ekonomija je personalna stvar, a u medjunarodnim odnosima SAD je u krivim vodama; bez obzira ko preuzme kongres, nista me se nece dodirivati
znaci, ostajemo kuci sutra

#4939 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 08/11/2022 03:40
by jeza u ledja
Nidze veze.

#4940 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 08/11/2022 04:31
by Nepenthe11
#4941 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 08/11/2022 09:59
by sumirprimus
meni ovo nije jasno, bar vi koji ste otisli odavde s balkana a niste odabrali neku drugu zemlju, znate ko je i sta je amerika za ostatak svijeta i sta je alternativa.
sta da se amerika skroz povuce ko sto je trump krenuo, iz svih zemalja, pa i iz natoa? mislite da se to ne bi odrazilo na ostatak sviejta pa i na ameriku, i ko bi uletio u prazan prostor? pa ako je to ok sto ste onda isli i vi u ameriku?
#4942 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 08/11/2022 14:19
by Rob_Atl
Duznost obavljena

#4943 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 08/11/2022 20:27
by breba
Šega je što se isprintani glasački list na kraju ubaci u onu mašinu koja izgleda kao shredder

#4944 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 08/11/2022 20:30
by GandalfSivi
breba wrote: ↑08/11/2022 20:27
Šega je što se isprintani glasački list na kraju ubaci u onu mašinu koja izgleda kao shredder
Odlicno

#4945 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 08/11/2022 23:21
by Rob_Atl
breba wrote: ↑08/11/2022 20:27
Šega je što se isprintani glasački list na kraju ubaci u onu mašinu koja izgleda kao shredder
Kae lik sta si zavro samo nasloni uzece masina sama

#4946 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 09/11/2022 00:30
by jeza u ledja
Unutra sjedi Hugo Chavez i jede listice ako je zaokruzeno R.
#4947 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 09/11/2022 04:18
by Rob_Atl
Gusto na terenu

#4948 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 09/11/2022 05:10
by breba
Rob_Atl wrote: ↑09/11/2022 04:18
Gusto na terenu
Pobijedi "tvoj" Kemp.

#4949 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 09/11/2022 08:34
by SmokingMan
Zanimljiv mi ovaj Fetterman, dobro je završio, shodno da ga je satrao moždani udar proljetos. Outfit mu je sa 10.

#4950 Re: AMERIKA
Posted: 09/11/2022 08:37
by Copper
SmokingMan wrote: ↑09/11/2022 08:34
Zanimljiv mi ovaj Fetterman, dobro je završio, shodno da ga je satrao moždani udar proljetos. Outfit mu je sa 10.
Opet je puno bolji od regresivnog wanna be doktora koji je izgradio karijeru na lazim. U ostalom je odlicno, Demokrati dobivaju puno vise nego sto gube.