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walkabout
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#4751 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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na vratima Bijele Kuce nashli poruku "Gone G20 summiting"... :oops: :D
obratite paznju shta se sve ponijelo (i na ljupko ime bullet-proof limuzine za Obamu :D )...

prvi posjet majci :roll: europi, dosta teskih susreta za kratko vrijeme, u kuci problemi - nije mu lahko... :oops:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/new-boy-on- ... -9h3l.html
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_veleposlanik
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#4752 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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US "diplomacija" posljednjih decenija:

gosnmerkel
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#4753 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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Nije provjereno ,ali iz pozdanih izvora e-mailiran sam porukom
kako je Pink TV objavio vijest da Obama uskoro,tj,na Europskoj
turneji posjećuje i Sarajevo.TV Pink i koliko se njima može
vjerovati.?
walkabout
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#4754 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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na stranu Hugina vika (sto je povod i uvod za clanak), ima nekoliko interesantnih zapazhanja...

http://www.smh.com.au/world/adios-us-no ... ml?page=-1
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#4755 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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dobro je,katastrofa je ,propasti nećemo.Štamparija radi punom parom u tri smjene.Bufet,Soroš,dobri po koju milijardu,izvještaj o "bećarima" nepoznat,njihova dobrina je mnogostruko veća,doduše imaju troška u boji,papiru,finansiranju samita i to...
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#4756 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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Orbi et urbi,ščene je izabrano i zvače se Bo.Problem po problem se riješava,idemo dalje.
walkabout
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#4757 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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crno, sa bijelim shapama... :-)
mora da je do mene :oops:
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#4758 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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gosnmerkel wrote:Nije provjereno ,ali iz pozdanih izvora e-mailiran sam porukom
kako je Pink TV objavio vijest da Obama uskoro,tj,na Europskoj
turneji posjećuje i Sarajevo.TV Pink i koliko se njima može
vjerovati.?
ne moze im se vjerovati, kratko i jasno
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jeza u ledja
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#4759 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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Svjeze uslikano prije par sati:

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Perun
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#4760 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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Dok se On okolo slika Texsas trazi odcjepljenje.


http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 0047518001



:lol: :lol:
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hik--meta
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#4761 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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jeza u ledja wrote:Svjeze uslikano prije par sati:

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jos samo da ode fidelu i korejancu pa da se izgrli s njima, ahmedu i nedzadu nece zbog rahma emanuela. i hilki se stomak prevrce sigurno.
sad nesto kontam, kad ga nisu dosad smakli, zbog ovoga ce ga sigurno.
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_veleposlanik
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#4762 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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Ovo je samo teatar velikih igracha. Nece njega niko smaci (a i da hoce, to bi opet bio teatar, dok bi pravi Obama presao na ostrva Honolulu operisan u bijelca i s drugom facom).
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#4763 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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_veleposlanik wrote:Ovo je samo teatar velikih igracha. Nece njega niko smaci (a i da hoce, to bi opet bio teatar, dok bi pravi Obama presao na ostrva Honolulu operisan u bijelca i s drugom facom).
Morali bi mu i ljubavni ud umanjiti ... :wink:
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#4764 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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_veleposlanik wrote:Ovo je samo teatar velikih igracha. Nece njega niko smaci (a i da hoce, to bi opet bio teatar, dok bi pravi Obama presao na ostrva Honolulu operisan u bijelca i s drugom facom).
He is a live, he is a live!!!!!
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#4765 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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_veleposlanik wrote:Ovo je samo teatar velikih igracha. Nece njega niko smaci (a i da hoce, to bi opet bio teatar, dok bi pravi Obama presao na ostrva Honolulu operisan u bijelca i s drugom facom).
:lol: :lol: :lol:

PS: Smijem se zato sto znam da si ozbiljan. :D
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#4766 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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Molio bih kolege "Amerikance" a i one koji to nisu (nisam siguran dali mogu) da potpishu peticiju da se podrzi Ron Paul u "borbi" protiv FEDa:

http://www.change.org/actions/view/mone ... etter_form
http://criminaljustice.change.org/actio ... al_reserve
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_veleposlanik
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#4767 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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jefferson wrote: He is a live, he is a live!!!!!
E moj jeffersone, pise se "alive", a "nikad nisam bio u AmeriKi"......

Vidis kako nije uvijek potrebno biti na licu mjesta da bi znao nesto vise od "domacina" :D

@jeza, bilo je malo ironicno, ali i jos jedna moguca varijanta...

@ahuseino: pa to nije problem, uvijek je bilo mnogo lakse umanjiti ga neg povecati.... :D
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#4768 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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Opa, tek sad procitah, ahuseino potpisuje peticiju za Ron Paula :shock: :shock: :shock: :D

Drago mi je da i ovako nesto docekam na forumu :)
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#4769 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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_veleposlanik wrote:Opa, tek sad procitah, ahuseino potpisuje peticiju za Ron Paula :shock: :shock: :shock: :D

Drago mi je da i ovako nesto docekam na forumu :)
Mozesh ovo gledati kao razlika izmedju micro- i macro- svjetske politike.

Ovo chime se R. Paul momentalno bavi je neshto sto se deshava u vishe nego 4 dimenzije poznate nama obichnim smrtichima (podrzavaocima Obame).

Samo ti to dobro znash :wink:
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#4771 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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ahuseino wrote: Ovo chime se R. Paul momentalno bavi je neshto sto se deshava u vishe nego 4 dimenzije poznate nama obichnim smrtichima (podrzavaocima Obame).

Samo ti to dobro znash :wink:
Ne, ne znam dobro, ali sam znao da se nesto iza brda valja (sto rek'o jedan komentator na jednoj utakmici :D). Za moj nivo i upletenost kao prosjecan gradjanin mislim da je dovoljno.

Kamo srece da nas umjesto Paris Hilton interesuju malo vise ove stvari koje nam svima odredjuju sudbinu.... :roll:
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#4772 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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Lijepo je vidjeti Obamu poslije onog ugursuza prije njega, ali cini mi se da prebrzo prevrce veliki broj kamenja koje godinama prije njega niko nije ni doticao...

Skoro pa da me na neki nacin podsjeca na Gorbachova i njegovu Perestrojku. Sama po sebi je ta perestrojka bila ideal ideala ali je isto tako ostavila iza sebe mnoge posljedice s kojima se opet mnogi u svijetu nisu mogli lako nositi.

Iskreno se nadam da zna sta radi i da realno procjenjuje svoju snagu!
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Obama defends greeting Hugo Chavez

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The president says Americans want him to interact with foreign leaders and that the U.S. has nothing to fear from Venezuela. He stresses importance of collaboration and earning goodwill.

By Peter Nicholas
April 20, 2009


Reporting from Tobago and Port-Of-Spain, Trinidad -- Rebuffing criticism of the warm greetings he exchanged with Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez, President Obama said Sunday that the United States, with its overwhelming military superiority and need to improve its global image, could afford to extend such diplomatic "courtesy."

In a news conference capping a three-day meeting of leaders from the Western Hemisphere, Obama also said the U.S. must engage other countries through humanitarian gestures, not only military intervention.

Obama said it would be a mistake to measure the Summit of the Americas by the specific agreements reached. By listening to his counterparts and eschewing heavy-handed diplomacy, he said, he was creating an atmosphere in which, "at the margins," foreign leaders are "more likely to want to cooperate than not cooperate."

A running theme of the summit was Obama's cordial dealings with Chavez, who once called former President George W. Bush the "devil" and who last month dismissed Obama as an "ignoramus." The two were photographed smiling and clasping hands.

At one meeting, Chavez made a show of walking around the table as the cameras rolled and handing Obama a copy of "Open Veins of Latin America," a 1971 book by Eduardo Galeano chronicling U.S. and European imperialism in the region.


Republican Sen. John Ensign of Nevada, appearing on CNN on Sunday, said it was "irresponsible" for Obama to be seen "laughing and joking" with the Venezuelan president.

Obama dismissed such concerns. He said the 2008 presidential campaign proved that American voters want the president to engage with his counterparts, whether or not they are avowed friends of the U.S.

He said it "was a nice gesture to give me a book. I'm a reader." The president added that the election was a referendum of sorts on the argument that U.S. solicitude toward foreign leaders could be seen as "weakness."

"The American people didn't buy it," Obama said. "And there's a good reason the American people didn't buy it, because it doesn't make sense."

The U.S. has nothing to fear from Venezuela, a large supplier of crude oil to the country, Obama said.

"Its defense budget is probably 1/600th of the U.S.," he said. "They own [the oil company] Citgo. It's unlikely that as a consequence of me shaking hands or having a polite conversation with Mr. Chavez that we are endangering the strategic interests of the United States."


That said, Obama aides were not so charitable toward Chavez. In a background briefing earlier, one senior official accused Chavez of performing for the cameras.

The official, who briefed reporters on the condition of anonymity, said, "Anybody who's been at international conferences with Chavez knows that if there's a camera around, he's going to find a way to get in it."

Apparently impressed with Obama, Chavez seemed ready to reevaluate relations with the United States. He announced that he was considering appointing an ambassador to Washington, an idea he discussed over the weekend with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. The two countries expelled each other's ambassadors last year.

"We have a different focus, obviously," Chavez said on Venezuelan state television. "But we are willing. We have the political will to work together."


Though Cuba's fate was not on the official agenda of the summit, which included only democratically elected leaders from the hemisphere, many Latin American leaders pressed Obama to lift the United States' 47-year-old trade embargo on the island nation and normalize relations. Obama resisted.

His administration has already announced that it is loosening travel restrictions on Cuban Americans visiting family on the island. But at this point, Obama has refused to go further, calling upon Castro to move toward a more open and democratic form of government.

Lawrence H. Summers, the president's top economic advisor, said Sunday that the embargo would not end any time soon.

"That's way down the road, and it is going to depend on what Cuba . . . does going forward," Summers, who accompanied Obama on the trip, said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

In his news conference, Obama said he welcomed Cuban leader Raul Castro's statement last week that his government wanted a full dialogue with the U.S. about a range of issues, including human rights, treatment of dissidents and media restrictions. Castro also acknowledged that the Cuban government may have been wrong in some of its positions.

"And so we're going to explore and see if we can make some further steps," Obama said.

With three foreign trips now behind him, the president was asked to outline the "Obama doctrine": the principles by which he will be conducting foreign policy. He stressed the importance of acting in collaborative fashion, rejecting the more unilateral approach taken by his Republican predecessor.

He noted that Latin American leaders had mentioned to him that thousands of Cuban doctors were deployed across the region treating patients, the type of humanitarian aid that spreads goodwill.

That, he said, is "a reminder for us in the United States that if our only interaction with many of these countries is drug interdiction, if our only interaction is military, then we may not be developing the connections that can, over time, increase our influence and have a beneficial effect when we need to try to move policies that are of concern to us forward in the region."

The summit exposed Obama to the personality quirks and grievances of leaders who've chafed under past U.S. presidents and policies.

Daniel Ortega, Nicaragua's leader, gave a 50-minute speech at the opening ceremony Friday in which he denounced capitalism. At a news conference, Bolivian President Evo Morales alleged that the U.S. had been complicit in attempts to overthrow him. Morales also wanted Obama to repudiate an alleged attempt to assassinate him last week.

In response, Obama said he wanted to "condemn any efforts at violent overthrows of democratically elected governments, wherever it happens in the hemisphere. That is not the policy of our government."

After spending much of the month steeped in international summitry -- first in Europe and then Trinidad and Tobago -- Obama seemed ready to get back to the White House.

"Time to get home," the president said.
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#4774 Re: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

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Hugo kralj...

Treba Morales i Correra da se izbore sa istu mogucnost da mogu biti birani vise od 2 mandata i onda su na dobrom putu da se smanje iskoristavanje od strane Amerike.

Dva mandata su osmisljena kako bi se zastitili interesi gradjana i sprijecila manipulacija od strane vlade koja je predugo na vlasti i to stoji i ima smisla. Ipak, ako je rizik da se to ogranicenje od dva mandata iskoristi tako sto ce na vlast opet doci marionetski rezim (kakvi su bili na vlasti stalno u Latinskoj Americi i koji su taj narod doveli do samoga ruba) onda je upravo ukidanje tog ogranicenja vaznija i bolja zastita interesa tog istog naroda. Naravno sve dok se sprovode demokratski izbori.
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teško je mješati jabuke i kruške,ograničenje dva mandata je za "demokratije" gdje se igra igra i sve zna,a bezvlašče je upravo polje na kojem ovi igrači iz demokratije ubiru lovu.Jedno ide s drugim i zato i opstaje vijekovima,u suštini isto,samo je razina privida i blagostanja na strani "demokratije",ali se opet plača cijena.
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