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#47376 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 16:10
by saint_mirad
Jebalo ih cenkanje, valjda su na primeru Alissona i VVD naučili da kvalitetnog igrača valja i platiti kako treba.

#47377 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 16:34
by AmiĐa_Idriz
zomri wrote: 03/08/2020 16:08 Fakat u nekim stvarima pretjeruju, da ne kazem prave socijalni slucaj od kluba. Prvi poletili po one uplate po korona zakonu, I ovo cjenkanje oko svakog jebenog igraca maltene. 30m stvarno nije puno za ovakvog igraca i svaki konkurent ce to u trenu iskesirati.
Sve su prilike da će u PSG.

Izgleda da će na kraju samo ovaj doći:
Update: Liverpool closing in on £9m transfer for Aissa Mandi with Real Betis keen to sell - the Reds have made signing a centre-back a priority. [@DailyStar_Sport]
Treća opcija po kvaliteti od spominjanih stopera.

#47378 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 16:38
by AmiĐa_Idriz
Algerian international defender Aissa Mandi is close to signing for Liverpool FC. Little details prevent this so far. [@DerradjiHafid - @beINSPORTS]
:zzzz:

#47379 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 16:40
by zomri
:skoljka: :skoljka:

#47380 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 17:56
by Gandalf
ne plačite za Al Kantarinom, već zbog toga što niti jednog ozbiljnog igrača neće dovesti ovo ljeto, ne znam šta će im i ovaj alžirac, treća liga pojačanje, takav se uvijek može naći u akademiji :skoljka:

#47381 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 20:54
by no_sekirli
Ako ce dovoditi amatera stopera od 10 miliona, Lovrena nisu trebali ni prodavat. Ili Rahimica dovest iz penzije, ili nikoga :lol:

#47382 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 21:04
by saint_mirad
Lik dolazi kao like-for-like zamena za Lovrena, znači četvrti štoper. Biće verovatno nova verzija Klavana, ali za te pare nije ništa drugo ni očekivati.

Mene više brine što za sada nema naznaka da dovode nekog u napadu, a postoji mogućnost da Origi i/ili Shaqiri napuste klub.

#47383 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 21:52
by AmiĐa_Idriz
Malo o Mandiju:
• At 28 years of age, Mandi is well into the peak of his career. He turns 29 in October, so will still have over 2 years on the receently departed Dejan Lovren, who joined Zenit for just under £11M. The Algerian is a younger, better defender, who is also much more versatile.
• The Algerian defender’s primary role is centre-back, so he will be more than comfortable filling in the ‘Lovren role’ of probably 15-20 games a season in all competitions. However, he has played at both full-back spots, as well as a limited number of games in the No.6 role.
• Unlike Lovren who made a measly 15 appearances in all competitions in the 19/20 season, Mandi has been an ever present, making 29 appearances in La Liga alone, as well as 1 appearance in the Copa del Rey. He also started all of his 29 appearances in the league.
• Surprsingly though, Mandi only kept a low number of clean sheets in his appearances last season, with Real Betis only managing 6 clean sheets in the matches in which he was a crucial part of the defence.
• However, in the 9 games in which the 28-year old didn’t feature, his side conceded a colossal 24 goals, which is around 2.67 goals conceded per game without him in the side.
• Then looking at when Mandi is in the team, Real Betis conceded 36 in 29 games, which equates to around 1.24 goals per game. This means that when the Algerian is at the heart of the defence, the team concedes, on average, less than half of the goals they do when he’s missing.
• When comparing this with Dejan Lovren, who had a much better defensive unit and goalkeeper surrounding him, the Croatian defender conceded 11 in 10 PL games, being a notable reason for the 3-0 loss to Watford.
• This brings Lovren’s goals conceded to 18 in 15 games. This surprisingly brings his goals conceded/per game to 1.2, which is even lower than Mandi’s. However, as stated, Mandi has had to deal with a forever shuffling Betis team, of quite low quality, unlike Liverpool’s team.
• These stats seem to suggest that, surrounded by the likes of Robertson, van Dijk and Alexander-Arnold, as well as having midfield support from Fabinho, Wijnaldum and Henderson, as well as the world-class Alisson behind him, Mandi should be a much better option than Lovren.
• This hypothesis is further supported when looking at famous football statistic site, WhoScored. The site states that a strong, positive trait of Mandi is his top-class concentration levels, rarely losing focus in key moments. This is one of Lovren’s greatest flaws.
• Mandi is also extremely confident in his passing ability. Although Lovren registered an assist in the 19/20 PL season, and Mandi did not in his own La Liga campaign, it is widely accepted that the Algerian’s passing ability is phenomenal for a defender.
• His top passing ability would be perfect for Liverpool’s style of playing, which often involves cross-field balls to Sadio Mane or Mo Salah, as well as key passes through the midfield to the furthest forward midfielder, as well as Firmino.
• Unlike Lovren who often altered our style of play when in action, Mandi would seemingly do no such thing. His confidence on the ball would allow for Klopp’s men to continue playing as planned, rather than tweaking the team to cater for the Croatian centre-back’s limits.
• Mandi also has a higher pass completion % than Lovren, with the 28-year old completing just under 90% of passes, with the former Red completing just over 85%.
• However, quite a surprising stat to point out about Mandi in comparison to Lovren is that his aerial ability and aerial duel win rates is poor compared to the 31-year old. On average, Mandi wins 2.1 aerial duels per game and Lovren 4.5, over double.
• To begin the conclusion of this piece on Mandi, as it seems that low fees will be the norm for Klopp’s side this summer, it is reported that Mandi will cost just under £10M, meaning that the Reds can sign the Algerian for a slightly lower fee than Dejan Lovren departed for.
• However, as is the issue with Mane, Salah and Keita, Mandi will depart for the AFCON when it takes place in January 2022, and future ones too.
• Despite this though, I’d say this isn’t really an issue. He wouldn’t be a starter, and would only be used as cover, so it wouldn’t be a huge loss. It would also be expected that Van den Berg and Hoever would be more than capable of covering in 1-2 years time.
• As a whole though, I’d say that for the sake of just under £10M, with the need for reliable cover at centre-back due to Lovren’s departure, and Matip and Gomez’s injuries, Mandi is worth the punt to give VDB and Hoever a couple years more experience.

#47384 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 21:55
by vaučer
Mislim da nam i ne treba Tiago.
Ako Naby bude zdraviji i Jones nastavi s dobrim igrama imamo dovoljno kreativnosti u vezi.

#47385 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 22:08
by saint_mirad
vaučer wrote: 03/08/2020 21:55 Mislim da nam i ne treba Tiago.
Ako Naby bude zdraviji i Jones nastavi s dobrim igrama imamo dovoljno kreativnosti u vezi.
To jedino ako Naby bude imao top sezonu, a tu je veliki znak pitanja. Nemamo skoro nikakve kreativnosti u vezi, preskače se sredina terena dijagonalama ka krilnim napadačima ili bekovi asistiraju. Tako smo dali većinu golova. Ova trkačka sredina je dobra za taktičke zadatke i brzi prenos lopte u tranziciji, ali kreativna nije.

#47386 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 22:45
by drug_profi
Treba biti po jedan igrac viska u svakoj liniji.
Sta sa AFCONom? Sa povredama? Sa koronom na kraju krajeva...?
Mislim bogami isto ko da su klub sa 10.000 navijaca pa nema prostora.

#47387 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 23:14
by BHF_Manijak
Suvise su mi ovi Nikeovi dresovi genericki. :roll: Gledam maloprije Bayernov dres Adidas sto je radio, perverzija mame mi. Doduse treci. Ono bih ja hladno "metn'o" kao prvi. :oops:

#47388 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 03/08/2020 23:40
by AmiĐa_Idriz
Nešto gledam, u zadnje vrijeme Nike kada potpiše sa nekim ugovor automatski mu bace za prvi put ovako neki generic dres.

#47389 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 01:19
by Edin H.
Evo pojasni frajer u programu o Kloppu na Channel 4 veceras kakve igrace prate.
Prvo je da nisu imali povreda, da imaju brzinu i da mogu pokrivati teren cijelu utakmicu i da imaju konstantu, tako dva puta sedmicno, znaci mjere im fizicke mogusnosti da se mogu uklopiti u Kloppov stil.

#47390 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 02:57
by drug_profi
Ma švabo jedino zna na blitzkrieg fatat.... :mrgreen:

#47391 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 09:45
by Gandalf
Edin H. wrote: 04/08/2020 01:19 Evo pojasni frajer u programu o Kloppu na Channel 4 veceras kakve igrace prate.
Prvo je da nisu imali povreda, da imaju brzinu i da mogu pokrivati teren cijelu utakmicu i da imaju konstantu, tako dva puta sedmicno, znaci mjere im fizicke mogusnosti da se mogu uklopiti u Kloppov stil.
Najbolje ce im onda biti da prate atleticare na Dijamantskoj ligi, Olimpijadi i sl.

#47392 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 10:01
by zomri
Edin H. wrote: 04/08/2020 01:19 Evo pojasni frajer u programu o Kloppu na Channel 4 veceras kakve igrace prate.
Prvo je da nisu imali povreda, da imaju brzinu i da mogu pokrivati teren cijelu utakmicu i da imaju konstantu, tako dva puta sedmicno, znaci mjere im fizicke mogusnosti da se mogu uklopiti u Kloppov stil.
neka si me podsjetio, evo skida se :thumbup:

#47393 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 10:01
by BHF_Manijak
Prate sve to, ove bez povreda, i onda imas Matipa, Gomeza, Sturridgea, Keitu, Lallanu, Oxa, Shaqirija... :lol: :oops:

#47394 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 11:42
by AmiĐa_Idriz

#47395 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 11:52
by Gandalf
BHF_Manijak wrote: 04/08/2020 10:01 Prate sve to, ove bez povreda, i onda imas Matipa, Gomeza, Sturridgea, Keitu, Lallanu, Oxa, Shaqirija... :lol: :oops:
I jos hoce Thiaga dovest :mrgreen:

#47396 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 13:10
by todd_smith
ako je tebi 30m problem za Tijaga dati, kako bi onda 100m za tipa Sanchoa

ova ekipa ce se boriti za top 4 kamoli titulu za 2 godine ako ovako nastave

#47397 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 13:14
by Edin H.
BHF_Manijak wrote: 04/08/2020 10:01 Prate sve to, ove bez povreda, i onda imas Matipa, Gomeza, Sturridgea, Keitu, Lallanu, Oxa, Shaqirija... :lol: :oops:
Pa dobro, prije nego sto dodju, a onda ih pritisnu treningom.

Evo Mane skoro pa nikad nije povrijedjen, a trci ko mahnit :lol:

#47398 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 13:18
by Edin H.
zomri wrote: 04/08/2020 10:01
Edin H. wrote: 04/08/2020 01:19 Evo pojasni frajer u programu o Kloppu na Channel 4 veceras kakve igrace prate.
Prvo je da nisu imali povreda, da imaju brzinu i da mogu pokrivati teren cijelu utakmicu i da imaju konstantu, tako dva puta sedmicno, znaci mjere im fizicke mogusnosti da se mogu uklopiti u Kloppov stil.
neka si me podsjetio, evo skida se :thumbup:
Reci im kad pregledas da nisam slagao :D

#47399 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 13:18
by Gandalf
todd_smith wrote: 04/08/2020 13:10 ako je tebi 30m problem za Tijaga dati, kako bi onda 100m za tipa Sanchoa

ova ekipa ce se boriti za top 4 kamoli titulu za 2 godine ako ovako nastave
Za Sancha bi dao i 200, mlad, klasa, zvijezda u usponu, igrač koji bi jaku ekipu učinio ubitačnom

Thiago je potrošena roba, ne smatram da bio bio pojačanje i da dođe besplatno, sklon ozljedama, engleski tempo bi ga slomio za dva mjeseca

#47400 Re: Liverpool FC #Champions

Posted: 04/08/2020 13:18
by AmiĐa_Idriz
Tu se pretpostavljam mislilo na same povrede mišića od fizičkih napora.

Kad sagledaš malo, takvih povreda, pogotovo dolaskom Kornmayera u klub gotovo da i nema. Sve povrede Matipa, Oxa i ostalih su drugačije prirode bile.

Jeste bilo problema sa zadnjim ložama kada je Klopp tek došao, zomri je često postavljao tekstove onog holandeza (?) što je pisao o Kloppovim treninzima. Ali i to je prije Kornmayera bilo.