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Izgleda ovi neki vjeruju da je USA svemocna.
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#45378 Re: Sirija

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madner wrote:Izgleda ovi neki vjeruju da je USA svemocna.
Nije USA ... dolar je :mrgreen:
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insomnia78 wrote:Kurdski licemjer
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Tekst Orienta o zatvoru u Tedmuru, http://www.orient-news.net/?page=news_s ... 8%B4%D9%8A! u kojem je Hafez Al Asad nakon pokušaja atentata na njega 1980. sa svojim bratom smaknuo oko 2400 zatvorenika.Hafez je poslao 60 vojnika u zatvor koji su imali zadatak da likvidiraju zatvorenike, pristalice Muslimanske braće.Zloglasni zatvor je sagrađen 1930., a 1990. se počelo sa njegovim zatvaranjem, da bi ga 2001. u potpunosti zatvorili.Navodno 2011. je bio ponovo u funkciji.Poznat je po mučenjima zatvorenika, a poznati sirijski pjesnik koji je u njemu proveo 4 godine napisao je o njemu knjigu "Od Tedmura pa do Harvarda"
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Kurdi u Vasingtonu nesto zbore....



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sarajevoxxxx wrote:Tekst Orienta o zatvoru u Tedmuru, http://www.orient-news.net/?page=news_s ... 8%B4%D9%8A! u kojem je Hafez Al Asad nakon pokušaja atentata na njega 1980. sa svojim bratom smaknuo oko 2400 zatvorenika.Hafez je poslao 60 vojnika u zatvor koji su imali zadatak da likvidiraju zatvorenike, pristalice Muslimanske braće.Zloglasni zatvor je sagrađen 1930., a 1990. se počelo sa njegovim zatvaranjem, da bi ga 2001. u potpunosti zatvorili.Navodno 2011. je bio ponovo u funkciji.Poznat je po mučenjima zatvorenika, a poznati sirijski pjesnik koji je u njemu proveo 4 godine napisao je o njemu knjigu "Od Tedmura pa do Harvarda"

Sve je to super i sve je za pet, ali ja jos uvijek cekam tvoj upis o zrtvama Saudo-al Thanijevske agresije na Jemen!!!???
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#45384 Re: Sirija

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Challenger__ wrote:
insomnia78 wrote:Kurdski licemjer
:lol:
Smjesno jasta je
Samo polovina maja
Syria

Near Al Hasakah, one airstrike struck an ISIL tactical unit and an ISIL trench system, destroying two ISIL fighting positions.

Near Aleppo, one airstrike destroyed an ISIL VBIED.

Near Ar Raqqah, one airstrike struck an ISIL staging area.

Near Kobani, five airstrikes struck an ISIL tactical unit, destroying two ISIL fighting positons, two ISIL mortar positions and an ISIL vehicle...



Syria

Near Al Hasakah, seven airstrikes struck two large and two small ISIL tactical units, destroying two ISIL vehicles, two ISIL fighting positions, three ISIL armored vehicles and an ISIL anti-aircraft artillery system.

Near Kobani, two airstrikes struck two ISIL tactical units, destroying four ISIL fighting positions and two ISIL vehicles...



Syria

Near Al Hasakah, six airstrikes struck one large and three small ISIL tactical units, destroying 14 ISIL vehicles, five ISIL fighting positions and three ISIL armored vehicles...

Syria

- Near Al Hasakah, six airstrikes struck one large and four small ISIL tactical units, destroying five ISIL fighting positions and two ISIL vehicles.

- Near Aleppo, one airstrike struck multiple fighting positons.

- Near Ar Raqqah, one airstrike destroyed an ISIL vehicle.

- Near Kobani, four airstrikes struck two ISIL tactical units, destroying two ISIL fighting positions and an ISIL tank...

Syria

Near Al Hasakah, eight airstrikes struck six ISIL tactical units, destroying four ISIL fighting positions, two ISIL vehicles, an ISIL mortar position, an ISIL warehouse and an ISIL building.

Near Kobani, one airstrike struck an ISIL tactical unit, destroying an ISIL fighting position, an ISIL bunker, an ISIL checkpoint and an ISIL vehicle...

Syria

Near Al Hasakah, three airstrikes struck two ISIL tactical units and an ISIL trench system, destroying six ISIL fighting positions, two ISIL vehicles and an ISIL tank.

Near Ar Raqqah, one airstrike struck an ISIL tactical unit.

Near Kobani, one airstrike destroyed an ISIL fighting position...

Syria

- Near Al Hasakah, six airstrikes struck one large and one small ISIL tactical unit, destroying three ISIL fighting positions, three ISIL vehicles, two ISIL mortar positions, four ISIL heavy machine guns and an ISIL supply point

- Near Ar Raqqah, one airstrike destroyed two ISIL vehicles.

- Near Kobani, two airstrikes struck an ISIL tactical unit, destroying an ISIL mortar position and an ISIL vehicle.
Ne kazem da ne moze vise
Ali da Kurdi pored ovakvog izbora meta mogu reci da koalicija nista ne pomaze...
Da pored spasavanja Kobanija to mogu reci...
Ja i dalje mislim da @kiki pretjeruje i da je to samo njegov a ne kurdski zvanicni stav
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Nesanice. Čitaj šta ti ljudi pišu, otvori se prema argumentima a djelovanje Amerikanaca stavi u vremenski i prostorni kontekst. Ako to uradiš onda se nećeš čuditi što svi redom sumnjaju u iskrene namjere Administracije.
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Challenger__ wrote:Nesanice. Čitaj šta ti ljudi pišu, otvori se prema argumentima a djelovanje Amerikanaca stavi u vremenski i prostorni kontekst. Ako to uradiš onda se nećeš čuditi što svi redom sumnjaju u iskrene namjere Administracije.
Joj, u kojem god hoces kontekstu djelovanje Amerikanaca ide debelo u korist Kurda
Da nista drugo nisu uradili spasili su im Kobani
Al jok...
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Ova mapa, koju uređuju pro-SAA "fanovi", pokazuje, između ostalog, ogromno napredovanje pripadnika IS-a u samo 7 dana.

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insomnia78 wrote:
Challenger__ wrote:Nesanice. Čitaj šta ti ljudi pišu, otvori se prema argumentima a djelovanje Amerikanaca stavi u vremenski i prostorni kontekst. Ako to uradiš onda se nećeš čuditi što svi redom sumnjaju u iskrene namjere Administracije.
Joj, u kojem god hoces kontekstu djelovanje Amerikanaca ide debelo u korist Kurda
Da nista drugo nisu uradili spasili su im Kobani
Al jok...
Jah,al džaba sve kad nece da im ispostuju onaj spisak za slanje oruzja.



:lol: :lol:
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insomnia78 wrote: Joj, u kojem god hoces kontekstu djelovanje Amerikanaca ide debelo u korist Kurda
Da nista drugo nisu uradili spasili su im Kobani
Al jok...
Nije Kobani polazna tačka ovog rata nego početak sirijske krize. Tada i nadalje, sa eskalacijom rata, nisu naoružavali Kurde nego široki spektar antivladinih snaga čiji je sastavni dio bio i ISIL u kome su vidjeli "snagu za izolaciju Damaska". Na njih nisu ispalili ni projektil dok nisu ugrozili naftna polja iračkog Kurdistana koje eksploatišu američke kompanije. A u međuvremenu, ISIL raste, uzima sve više teritorije u Iraku i Siriji, širi se u Africi i centralnoj Aziji.

A prije njihovih intervencija zasnovanih na lažnim tezama nije ih ni bilo.

U tom kontekstu, očekivati "zahvalnost" od Kurda ili bilo koga na BI je presmješno.
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Co0l wrote:
insomnia78 wrote:
Challenger__ wrote:Nesanice. Čitaj šta ti ljudi pišu, otvori se prema argumentima a djelovanje Amerikanaca stavi u vremenski i prostorni kontekst. Ako to uradiš onda se nećeš čuditi što svi redom sumnjaju u iskrene namjere Administracije.
Joj, u kojem god hoces kontekstu djelovanje Amerikanaca ide debelo u korist Kurda
Da nista drugo nisu uradili spasili su im Kobani
Al jok...
Jah,al džaba sve kad nece da im ispostuju onaj spisak za slanje oruzja.



:lol: :lol:
Sa'ce reko je Obama, samo da upakuju
Bice i Javelin
Pa da i oni krenu kalifat praviti
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Ziv ti i zdrav bio,ISIL se pojavio ne sa pocetkom sirijske krize neo dobrano nakon njenog pocetka.I normalno da ih nisu na pocetku bombardovali jer nisu odmah bili jaki kao sad niti su odmah predstavljali toliku prijetnju.
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insomnia78 wrote:
Co0l wrote:
insomnia78 wrote: Joj, u kojem god hoces kontekstu djelovanje Amerikanaca ide debelo u korist Kurda
Da nista drugo nisu uradili spasili su im Kobani
Al jok...
Jah,al džaba sve kad nece da im ispostuju onaj spisak za slanje oruzja.



:lol: :lol:
Sa'ce reko je Obama, samo da upakuju
Bice i Javelin
Pa da i oni krenu kalifat praviti
Ako ne spakuju barem i eskadrilu F-22 nek se i ne trude slat.
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Zanimljiv tekst. Malo je duži da kopiram, pa ko hoće nek čita. Piše o snazi Isila, teritoriji koju stvarno kontrolišu, a koju prividno itd. Ima li smisla napisano ili ne?
http://www.telegram.hr/politika-krimina ... bicna-laz/

Dio teksta :
Kao što ove mape koje smo posudili od Instituta za proučavanje rata pokazuju, ISIS ima jedan maleni dio pod svojom direktnom administrativnom kontrolom. Ti su dijelovi strogo izolirani sa stotinama kilometara kvadratnih pustinje i upravo ta izolacija im omogućava da i dalje budu operativni, ali i u tome leži način da ih se porazi. Naime, osim tog malog dijela stroge kontrole, valjda znati da postoje gradacije kontrole koje imaju na drugim teritorijima. Te gradacije su ključ za pronalaženje efektne taktike za borbu protiv ISIS-a.
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Nije posteno, poneki mitraljez kurdi moraju sami neutralizovat. Neki Dan 12 minuta cekali da se minibacac odradi. USA supci.
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Insomnia

De Tita ti procitaj sta je covjek rekao pa onda komentarisi....
Coalition Forces

- Mr. Redur Xelil, in your opinion, for how long does this war continue?

There are many factors involved here. It mostly depends on the trans-regional decisions, especially on the decision of the coalition forces. That is, it depends on the extent to which the coalition forces are eager to help us in the war against ISIS. Currently, we are somehow coordinated with the coalition forces, but it is not satisfactory.

The Middle East is fused with the presence of difference global powers. The Middle East have always been a vast ground for the opportunities of these forces, from U.S.A to Saudi Arabia, Iran and Turkey. They have all profits in the Middle East and if they manage to resolve their problems, the crises in Syria and Iraq will end.

If the profits that have kept this terrorist group alive are not revisited, certainly the issues will continue.

- I understand from your words that you regard those very powers as the causes of the problems in Iraq and Syria, from the formation of ISIS and also the continuation of the current crisis.

Indeed, one cannot excuse them. You know that in less than one year, before their own eyes, ISIS began its conquest, equipped its forces, and founded the Islamic State

- Since when are you talking to coalition forces?

Since the arrival of ISIS at Kobani, these interactions began.

- Are their air raids really effective?

Definitely! We cannot ignore their influence. But by and large, the coalition forces and all the other forces are aware of this fact that the main role is played by YPG in the battle fields.

If there is no field force which can control the geographical area, then we cannot eliminate ISIS with the air raiders.

Unfortunately, the internal problems of the coalition forces, has reduced their contribution in Serikani and other places. At the moment, they have focused on Iraq.

This point is one of our concerns, and we hope that they add to their numbers in Tal Tamar and Serikani. They have formed this coalition to eliminate ISIS, while the only force who have managed to control their severe attacks in Syria was YPG.

- In your opinion, are the coalition forces more inclined to keep the force balance in Syrian and Iraq or to eliminate ISIS?

I cannot really say, but the evidences show that there is not the enough motivation for fighting ISIS among the coalition forces.

- What about Turkey? Is it a part of the coalition?

No, Turkey has not joined yet. They have talked about the necessity of forming a coalition but nothing has been done indeed. They say we are against ISIS but they have neither accepted the coalition nor joined it.

- After the liberation of Kobani and considering the global dimension of the resistance in the city, have there not been any weaponry supports to YPG?

So far, even one bullet has not been given to us in the war against ISIS.Their support has been just in words not in sending military aids. They have talked about the YPG and our resistance several times, but we have seen nothing in practice.

ISIS is dangerous for all of us, from the U.S.A to this Middle East. At the moment, the only forces that are combating against ISIS on the real hard ground and have managed to control them are the Kurd forces. Therefore, if there is any intention to eliminate this terrorist group among the regional and global powers, supporting the YPG would be beneficiary for all.

- You say that you are completely in blockade from every corner, so how do you get all these light and heavy weapons of yours?

There is a bitter truth in the Middle East, which is the existence of the black market of selling weapon. Therefore, no military force will have problems in finding the needed weapons; you just need to pay the price. The weapon trade isall going on in the region. I think that some countries make profits out of this market.

- If outside the Rojava borders, you mark an intention in the coalition and Syrian opposition forces to eliminate ISIS, Would you cooperate with them? For example, in Ar-Raqqah, Aleppo or other places.

Yes, for sure. As we believe that the security establishment in Syria and in the Middle East is to our profit and we have been and will be the main force in fighting ISIS.

- Have you felt this intention in them?

Unfortunately not.
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Istina,dabome.Bilo na internetu!
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Pa da, covjek lijepo kaze da zracni udari pomazu ali da ih samo oni ne mogu pobjediti

Ti shvatas da im Ameri nece dati oruzje koje oni traze?
Oruzje, posebno ne sofisticiranije, se ne daje svakom
Vidis sta se desi sa onim koje je dato Iraku
Iraku, irak je drzava za razliku od Kurda, koji su vise onako, skupina
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insomnia78 wrote:Pa da, covjek lijepo kaze da zracni udari pomazu ali da ih samo oni ne mogu pobjediti

Ti shvatas da im Ameri nece dati oruzje koje oni traze?
Oruzje, posebno ne sofisticiranije, se ne daje svakom
Vidis sta se desi sa onim koje je dato Iraku
Iraku, irak je drzava za razliku od Kurda, koji su vise onako, skupina
Od koalcije ni metak nisu dobili. Kako ce onda pobjediti ISIL? Ohrndanim oruzjem koje ilegalno kupuju? A na drugo strani moderno americko zaplijenjeno u Iraku...?

Kurdi imaju doziranu pomoc avijacije, ISIL ima americko oruzje... To je BALAN! Ako bi i Kurdi imali americko oruzje, ISIL bi izgubio vrlo brzo, sto navodno zeli Amerika.

Dakle, govorimo o sirijskim Kurdima.
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Da se prisjetimo jedne budaletine:

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