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Zlikavac wrote:
vama treba...8 cm?

Ako ne mozes originalnije...pokrij se.
Ovo je preslabo.

9 cm?

Zlikavac wrote:9 cm?

Samo devet?Kupi vakuum-pumpu i vjezbaj svaki dan.

Odgovara vam?

[quote="nebiPa,je li operacija uspjela?
Je li sad duzi od bogomdanih 8 cm? [/quote]


Ne dirati, ne, ne...

Ima li neko da se ljudski popickam sa njim?
Ovo je sve kilavo...

lamse, idem poslom

kasnije cu vas kolega.. prevaspitavati

Zlikavac wrote:

zlata wrote:

Soldier_of_Allah wrote: Lijepo tebe tvoj dedo nauci nema sta....Subhanallah...

Nego sta! Naucio me dido....da u brak stupaju MUZ i ZENA. Da se ta jedina zena voli (i dura ) do smrti. Naucio me je da se zivotinjski nagoni kontroliraju....inace od insana postade hajvan.

A da dedo nije zanemario animalnu prirodu veze dva istospolna partnera...jal je i dedo posenilio pa da mu ne zamjeramo ovakve ispade

Ma dido nije znao za pedere....neg' samo za Dervise i "umjetnike"!
Uostalom...ako idemo prirodno...jedna "ona stvar"...jedan partner...pa kojeg god spola. Nekako mi se i to cini dostojanstvenije...neg' kad se njih cetiri redaju...k'o u kupleraju!

Many Muslims and non-Muslims, scholars and social-workers agrees that polygamy could be a better be a better social solution for many problems. For example:

If medically proved that one’s wife is barren, and the husband or both of them desire for children and heirs. In such situation the man would either have to -Suffer the deprivation of fatherhood for life, or divorce his barren wife and get married to another woman who is not barren. In many cases, neither solution can be considered as the best alternative. Polygamy would have the advantage of preserving the martial relationship without depriving the man of fathering children of his own.

A man whose wife becomes chronically ill would have one of possible alternatives - He may suppress his instinctive sexual needs for the rest of his life. – or he may divorce his sick wife at the time when she needs his compassion most, and get married to another woman, thus legally satisfying his instinctive needs - or he could compromise by keeping his sick wife, and secretly take for himself one or more illicit sex partners.

Now, Islamically speaking - The first solution is against human nature. Islam recognizes sex and sexual needs and provides for legitimate means for their satisfaction. The second solution is clearly less compassionate, especially where there is love between the two parties. Further more divorce is described by the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as the “permitted thing, which is hated most by Allah.” The last solution is plainly against the Islamic teachings, which forbid illicit sexual relations in any form.

Anthropologists tell us that among various tribes and societies, polygamy is a social and economic necessity. In some very poor areas, the infant morality is very high. Children on the other hand, are a source of additional labour for the earning capacity of the family. To have more children under such situations would require the practice of polygamy. It is by this very reason Christian missionaries in some African regions justified their permission to local people to practice polygamy without being excommunicated from the church. One researcher has even found, through his studies that women in such societies not only accept polygamy, but some of them even prefer this. Aside from cases where women outnumber men, devastating wars, in the past and at present, have taken their roll mainly among men. The result is not simply more women who cannot find husbands, but even more widows who may aspire to a respectable family life. In such a situation, if polygamy is bad, the limitation on polygamy is even far worse.

Both unmarried women and widows are human beings. Unless their instinctive needs are legitimately satisfied, the temptation is great for corruption and immorality. But aside from the moral question these women are also exploited. They are used as tools for men’s pleasure, yet have no guarantees, no rights or security, financial or emotional. Should they become pregnant, it is their burden alone. But even if such women are ready to pay the price for this personally, society also suffers seriously from such situations. The increasing number of illegitimate children born today under conditions such as these provides a potential base for tomorrow’s maladjusted and even criminals. Further more it is inhuman, humiliating for those children to grow up without knowing who their fathers were and without enjoying a lean and normal family life.

Now comes the ‘smoking gun’ – Why a woman cannot have more than one husband? It is evident that the nature of women is physiologically and psychologically different from that of men. Psychologically speaking, the woman is monogamous by her very nature. Furthermore, in all cultures, new and old, the headship of the family, is normally man’s. One can imagine what would happen if the family had two or more heads. Furthermore, if the woman is married to more than one husband, which would be the father of her children for paying upbringing cost and who will get inheritance from whom?

To sum up, Islam being against immorality, hypocritical pretense of morality, and against divorce unless no better solution is available, provides for a better alternative which is consistent with human nature and with the preservation of pure and legitimate sex relationships. In a situation like this, it is doubtful that any solution would be better than polygamy, which is, after all, an optional solution. (Source: Sayyid Maududi’s Khutba)

bosancica wrote: I ja sam uvijek iskrena.A izuzetno sam osjecajna.

Ali da ti kazem: ja sam svoje odnose u braku rijesila prije braka. Moj muz ima pravo da dovede inocu, meni ne pada na pamet da mu negiram to pravo, ali dok sam ja ziva i zdrava nece ga sigurno konzumirati ni sad ni kad mi bude insaAllah 45.Moram ti takodjer napomenuti da moj muz nije nikakav "izvidjac", a da bi svaka pomisao da se bavi tim "sportom" rezultirala razvodom.

Za razliku od tebe stela, ja ne bih tolerisala izvabracne avanture svog muza.

Ali...sad cu ti reci...da mi je 45 godina i da imam recimo troje male djece i da, ne dao dragi Allah, znam da imam neizljecivu bolest i da mi je smrt blizu - ja bih mu, dok sam jos ziva, nasla drugu zenu, vjernicu, koja ce biti dobra majka mojoj djeci i koja ce njemu biti dobra zena.Zar ne bi ti to ucinila za svoju djecu i za svog muza, ako ga volis?

Hajde molim te, zamisli takvu situaciju, pa mi odgovori iskreno.

Poligamija je socijalna kategorija u islamskom drustvu, a vi je stalno predstavljate iskljucivo kao nacin za zadovoljavanje seksualnih nagona.

Uozbiljite se malo.

Iskreno..... ja sam samo opisala pojave koje su normalne u modernom drustvu i to je to. Moj muz ne sara, ali da je bio izvidjac prije mene jeste-i neka je. To je bilo PRIJE mene. Onog trenutka kad je sazrio upoznao je i ozenio zenu svog zivota-opet mene. Nemam ovom nista dodati, ni oduzeti.

A sto se tice socijalne kategorije...
Bez uvrede i cilja da provociram, i prostitucija je ekonomska kategorija, pa sta cemo s tim?

A da sam bolesna....pa svakako bi mi bilo drago ako ja mogu izabrati njegovu buducu saputnicu koja bi (po meni) bila dobra za njega i koju ce ozeniti-nakon moje smrti.

A kakav li je stav bratske koalicije SDS+HDZ+SDA,
o poligamiji u BiH....

PR80. wrote:Uh, puno ste napisali ali samo mene interesuje nesto, evo pitanje jedno za one koji podrzavaju poligamiju:
- Citam i nisam nigdje mogla procitati i izvesti zakljucak da vi mozete zamisliti da vas muz ima odobrenje da dovede sebi jos 1,2 ili 3 zene, a isto tako ni muskarci forumasi koji podrzavaju poligamiju kazu da im zena ne zeli da dovedu vise zena.

Pitam se onda, kome vi ovdje solite pamet?

Uvijek bila i ostala Mocna Sudinica

kojsino wrote:A kakav li je stav bratske koalicije SDS+HDZ+SDA,
o poligamiji u BiH....

Pa naravno, poligaman!

PR80. wrote: I jos si zaboravila @danas pitati tog svog, tj mog haremliju kako on izdrzava sa 2 zene?
A ja i ti se eto navodno dobro slazemo.

....ja sve sto radim, radim slobodnom voljom.....hocu da kazem punopravno......
.....puno i pravo......

Zlikavac wrote:Many Muslims and non-Muslims, scholars and social-workers agrees that polygamy could be a better be a better social solution for many problems. For example: .........................

To sum up, Islam being against immorality, hypocritical pretense of morality, and against divorce unless no better solution is available, provides for a better alternative which is consistent with human nature and with the preservation of pure and legitimate sex relationships. In a situation like this, it is doubtful that any solution would be better than polygamy, which is, after all, an optional solution. (Source: Sayyid Maududi’s Khutba)

Yes...there is a solution better than polygamy. It is called human dignity. If you wish to help a single mother or a widow....there is such a thing as sedaka. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SLEEP WITH HER...and three other women as well, in order to give HER
respectability. If you wish to recognize your illegetimite children, nothing prevents you from doing so. The same goes for inheritence.

What you are advocating and justifying is absolutely disgusting, and the arguments are nothing short of bullshit.

Polygamy is nothing short of outright exploitation of women and the female biological and consequently, social condition. Anyone who attempts to legitimize it in the 21-st century is trying to legitimize vestiges of an archaic institution for the convenience of a few, flesh-hungry men, who seem to have problems keeping their dicks in their pants.

If that seems to be their problem....there is "medication" for insatiable sex drives. I would suggest that they resort to medical treatment...instead of trying to revive this form of exploitation of the female gender.

For those "do gooders" who wish to save the "weaker sex", I suggest to open up their wallets. Help! Help the widows, help the hungry, help the homeless. Help with their money, resources...and leave their "jewels" securely snug...in their pants...for the exclusive enjoyment of their partner.

Please...tell me...what is so PURE...about a rich old man....with his 4 wives. Usually, the older he gets....the younger they get. And....there is no limit to the number of times he can marry and divorce. Are you trying to tell me that Hugh Hefner would gain respectability by keeping a harem of 4, instead of 8? Either way, according to financial means...this roulette can go on indefinitely.

In my "GRANDFATHER'S DICTIONARY OF HUMAN ETHICS"..that is called a BORDELLO. Yes...there is a Sharia allowing 4 wives...but show me the Islamic Law that limits the number of divorces and remarriages of the same polygamous individuals.

In a world of white slavery involving females, Darfurs and Srebrenicas, how GROSS and DISGUSTING, that this is even a subject of serious debate. What relevance does it have to the current human condition?
As far as I know..we are in the 21st century, and the Sharia dates from the 7th. Laws are ammended when necessary and since Islam is not only about the spiritual nature of the human condition, but the material and worldly as well, there is no reason why ammendements to the Sharia should be unacceptable.

zlata wrote:As far as I know..we are in the 21st century, and the Sharia dates from the 7th. Laws are ammended when necessary and since Islam is not only about the spiritual nature of the human condition, but the material and worldly as well, there is no reason why ammendements to the Sharia should be unacceptable.

As unquestionable Law of God, Sheriah as itself should not be consider as temporary regional solution to the soloving of an individual problem, more then contemporary lifetime solution for whole mankind

Zlato procitala sam s paznjom, medjutim ti pises o zloupotrebi poligamije.

Serijatu nisu potrebna nikakva amandmaniranja, on slijedi nepromjenljivu ljudsku prirodu. Oni koji grijese jesu ljudi, zlato.

"Islam je savrsen. To je istina.
Ali mi nismo savrseni. I to je istina."

nebi wrote:@BECHO:umoljavam specijalisticki nalaz kao i prijedlog za terapiju:radi li se ovdje o invaziji tnikace?
@Fluiditj:shvatas li zasto trazim da se obznane dupli nickovi?Neki forumasi se
definitivno kloniraju do besvijesti u svrhu pruzanja podrske sami sebi...i to nazalost uglavnom oni supcali(ha,novi pridjev bosanskog jezika )...
nas Skljoco je bar toliko posten da otvori temu i prodiskutuje sam sa sobom,sve pod istim nickom

Mogu ti reci da je pridjev vrlo slikovit; svidja mi se.

nebi wrote:

PR80. wrote:Uh, puno ste napisali ali samo mene interesuje nesto, evo pitanje jedno za one koji podrzavaju poligamiju:
- Citam i nisam nigdje mogla procitati i izvesti zakljucak da vi mozete zamisliti da vas muz ima odobrenje da dovede sebi jos 1,2 ili 3 zene, a isto tako ni muskarci forumasi koji podrzavaju poligamiju kazu da im zena ne zeli da dovedu vise zena.

Pitam se onda, kome vi ovdje solite pamet?

Apsolutno....svi podrzavaju poligamiju,a svi imaju po jednog muza ili zenu i ne zele nikoga drugog
Zasto nam se ne javi neko sa dvije zen ili dva muza?
Ili su poligamni ljudi uglavnom u onom sloju stanovnistva koji jedva zna citati i pisati...o internetu ni govora.

Pitam se.....vec u jednom ranijem postu, vlastitom naravno.....

There are many instances where Sharia is neither applicable nor eithical in this century. To be able to apply Sharia, we need to be living in such a society, recreate 7th century conditions. Unless you wish to recreate the 7th century Arabia on the Balkan peninsula, your laws can neither be applicable nor just.

Your beliefs must therefore remain...beliefs, but the klix laws applied will have to be secular laws whose ultimate goal is immediate justice, not institutionalization of religious dogma. Simply put, because religious dogma ignores the klix human condition and interprets reality through 7th century social norms and condition....it is outdated and obsolete to the society at large, even the Islamic one.

Should we legalize slavery as well?
It is allowed by Sharia!
Why is there no proposal for the legalization of slavery in Bosnia?

bosancica wrote:Zlato procitala sam s paznjom, medjutim ti pises o zloupotrebi poligamije.

Serijatu nisu potrebna nikakva amandmaniranja, on slijedi nepromjenljivu ljudsku prirodu. Oni koji grijese jesu ljudi, zlato.

"Islam je savrsen. To je istina.
Ali mi nismo savrseni. I to je istina."

Pa zato usavrsavamo zakone....da bi otklonili, zaustavili grijesnike!

Zlato ne skreci sa teme.Ne pricamo o legalizaciji ropstva, nego poligamije.

There are many instances where Sharia is neither applicable nor eithical in this century. To be able to apply Sharia, we need to be living in such a society, recreate 7th century conditions. Unless you wish to recreate the 7th century Arabia on the Balkan peninsula, your laws can neither be applicable nor just.

Your beliefs must therefore remain...beliefs, but the klix laws applied will have to be secular laws whose ultimate goal is immediate justice, not institutionalization of religious dogma. Simply put, because religious dogma ignores the klix human condition and interprets reality through 7th century social norms and condition....it is outdated and obsolete to the society at large, even the Islamic one.

Neistina.

Pozitivno pravo zapadne Evrope ( a i nase) temelji se na normama koje su 1000 i vishe godina starije od Serijata. To je moguce jer je ljudska priroda nepromjenljiva, mijenjaju se socioloski okviri zivota, sustina ljudskog djelovanja ostaje ista.

bosancica wrote:Zlato ne skreci sa teme.Ne pricamo o legalizaciji ropstva, nego poligamije.

There are many instances where Sharia is neither applicable nor eithical in this century. To be able to apply Sharia, we need to be living in such a society, recreate 7th century conditions. Unless you wish to recreate the 7th century Arabia on the Balkan peninsula, your laws can neither be applicable nor just.

Your beliefs must therefore remain...beliefs, but the klix laws applied will have to be secular laws whose ultimate goal is immediate justice, not institutionalization of religious dogma. Simply put, because religious dogma ignores the klix human condition and interprets reality through 7th century social norms and condition....it is outdated and obsolete to the society at large, even the Islamic one.

Neistina.

Pozitivno pravo zapadne Evrope ( a i nase) temelji se na normama koje su 1000 i vishe godina starije od Serijata. To je moguce jer je ljudska priroda nepromjenljiva, mijenjaju se socioloski okviri zivota, sustina ljudskog djelovanja ostaje ista.

Neistina.
Postojala su vremena u kojima je covjek bio samo ono sto je bilo i njegovo pleme. Kolektivna svijest je bila na izuzetno visokom nivou i u skladu sa tim bile su i njegove duhovne potrebe.
U novije vrijeme nije tako. Covjek vise ne zeli da se izgubi u masi, on zeli da bude i da jeste INDIVIDUA.

PR80. wrote:Uh, puno ste napisali ali samo mene interesuje nesto, evo pitanje jedno za one koji podrzavaju poligamiju:
- Citam i nisam nigdje mogla procitati i izvesti zakljucak da vi mozete zamisliti da vas muz ima odobrenje da dovede sebi jos 1,2 ili 3 zene, a isto tako ni muskarci forumasi koji podrzavaju poligamiju kazu da im zena ne zeli da dovedu vise zena.

Pitam se onda, kome vi ovdje solite pamet?

Sto ovi koji podrzavaju poligamiju nece nista da odgovore na moje pitanje?