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Da li razumijete zasto ljudi glasaju za Trumpa?

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jefferson wrote: Ljudi koji glasaju za Trumpa ce pojesti njegovo govno ako treba.
Problem je sto su republikanci imali 17 kandidata, da su se npr. Bush ili Rubio ili Kasich sami kandidovali protiv Trumpa, pobjedili bi.
Medjutim, republikanci su usli u trku sa nekoliko pogresnih pretpostavki:
1. Ekonomija nece biti toliko dobra. Medjutim nezaposlenost je 5%
2. Blokirali smo Obamu, ljudi ce njega kriviti. Medjutim, cak i kad su uzeli Senat od demokrata tek tada nista nisu napravili.
3. Hillary ce biti los protivnik zbog njene istorije. Medjutim, kada nekog napdas 40 godina, takvi obicno razviju osjecaj za prezivljavanje.
4. Jedna stranka nikad (osim u par slucajeva) ne zadrzava bijelu kucu vise od dva mandata.
5. Ljudi su "ljuti." Medjutim, republikanci se previse fokusiraju an bjelce u Nebraski i slicno a ne na cijelu ameriku.

Ove pretpostavke su dovele do toga da bilo ko ko ima neku prepoznatljivost se htio kandidovati za Predsjednika. Naravno, to je razvodnilo glasove i Trump je uspio uzeti vecinu.
Ali opet se vracamo na ono, primarni izbori su jedno a generalni nesto deseto. Trump bi mozda imao sanse da je ovo 1950-godina i da ljudi viejsti dobivaju iz novina ili radija. Medjutim, sve sto je rekao ostaje na youtube, a latinosi su davno poceli kampanju protiv njega. Ubise po latino TV kanalima.
Republikanci su izgubili komas gdje je danas Amerika. Ponasanje guvrenera u drzavama kao SJeverna Karolina, Indiana i slicno govori da dolazi do tektonskih demografkih i socijalnih promjena. To nije nista neuobicajno za Ameriku, ustvari ovo danas je daleko mirnije nego prije.
Ove drzave koje ocajnicki pokusavaju da zaustave promjene rade po istom receptu kada su zene dobijale glas, kada su crnci dobijali glas itd. i opet ce uci u istoriju kao kocnicari. Naravo, ovo danas izgleda dosta dramaticnije znog socijalnih medija, ali u stavrnosti, ovo je blijeda slika sta su kreteni ovog tipa radili 50-tih i 60-tih.
Sto se tice Trumpa, Trump ce napraviti nekoliko akrdinalnih gresaka, jer on tvrdi da nije "elita." Samo u SAD tip koji tvrdi da ima 10 milijardi dolara moze tvrditi da nije "elita" i mnogi problemi skojima se susrece poticu iz cinjenice da veze sa stavrnoscu nema.
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Jos se nisam dovoljno fokusirao na njega pa da skontam da li samo blefira i pali masu “ljutih” bijelih gradjana, ili je fakat dovoljno budalast da izazove ozbiljan haos, mada sam uvijek sumnjao da bi Amerika dozvolila bilo kom predsjedniku da pocne previse talasati i ljuljati mimo uobicajne prakse, zna se da je to lose za biznis. SAD je tanker a ne gliser.
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Ako bude talaso skenjace ga kao sto su i JFK-a.
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THE MIND OF DONALD TRUMP
A psychologist’s guide to an extraordinary personality—and Trump’s possible presidency

BY DAN P. McADAMS, Photographs by MARK PETERSON/Redux

IN 2006, DONALD TRUMP made plans to purchase the Menie Estate, near Aberdeen, Scotland, aiming to convert the dunes and grassland into a luxury golf resort. He and the estate’s owner, Tom Griffin, sat down to discuss the transaction at the Cock & Bull restaurant. Griffin recalls that Trump was a hard-nosed negotiator, reluctant to give in on even the tiniest details. But, as Michael D’Antonio writes in his recent biography of Trump, Never Enough, Griffin’s most vivid recollection of the evening pertains to the theatrics. It was as if the golden-haired guest sitting across the table were an actor playing a part on the London stage.

“It was Donald Trump playing Donald Trump,” Griffin observed. There was something unreal about it.

The same feeling perplexed Mark Singer in the late 1990s when he was working on a profile of Trump for The New Yorker. Singer wondered what went through his mind when he was not playing the public role of Donald Trump. What are you thinking about, Singer asked him, when you are shaving in front of the mirror in the morning? Trump, Singer writes, appeared baffled. Hoping to uncover the man behind the actor’s mask, Singer tried a different tack:

“O.K., I guess I’m asking, do you consider yourself ideal company?”

“You really want to know what I consider ideal company?,” Trump replied. “A total piece of ass.”

I might have phrased Singer’s question this way: Who are you, Mr. Trump, when you are alone? Singer never got an answer, leaving him to conclude that the real-estate mogul who would become a reality-TV star and, after that, a leading candidate for president of the United States had managed to achieve something remarkable: “an existence unmolested by the rumbling of a soul.”

Is Singer’s assessment too harsh? Perhaps it is, in at least one sense. As brainy social animals, human beings evolved to be consummate actors whose survival and ability to reproduce depend on the quality of our performances. We enter the world prepared to perform roles and manage the impressions of others, with the ultimate evolutionary aim of getting along and getting ahead in the social groups that define who we are.

More than even Ronald Reagan, Trump seems supremely cognizant of the fact that he is always acting. He moves through life like a man who knows he is always being observed. If all human beings are, by their very nature, social actors, then Donald Trump seems to be more so—superhuman, in this one primal sense.

Many questions have arisen about Trump during this campaign season—about his platform, his knowledge of issues, his inflammatory language, his level of comfort with political violence. This article touches on some of that. But its central aim is to create a psychological portrait of the man. Who is he, really? How does his mind work? How might he go about making decisions in office, were he to become president? And what does all that suggest about the sort of president he’d be?

In creating this portrait, I will draw from well-validated concepts in the fields of personality, developmental, and social psychology. Ever since Sigmund Freud analyzed the life and art of Leonardo da Vinci, in 1910, scholars have applied psychological lenses to the lives of famous people. Many early efforts relied upon untested, nonscientific ideas. In recent years, however, psychologists have increasingly used the tools and concepts of psychological science to shed light on notable lives, as I did in a 2011 book on George W. Bush. A large and rapidly growing body of research shows that people’s temperament, their characteristic motivations and goals, and their internal conceptions of themselves are powerful predictors of what they will feel, think, and do in the future, and powerful aids in explaining why. In the realm of politics, psychologists have recently demonstrated how fundamental features of human personality—such as extroversion and narcissism— shaped the distinctive leadership styles of past U. S. presidents, and the decisions they made. While a range of factors, such as world events and political realities, determine what political leaders can and will do in office, foundational tendencies in human personality, which differ dramatically from one leader to the next, are among them.

Trump’s personality is certainly extreme by any standard, and particularly rare for a presidential candidate; many people who encounter the man—in negotiations or in interviews or on a debate stage or watching that debate on television—seem to find him flummoxing. In this essay, I will seek to uncover the key dispositions, cognitive styles, motivations, and selfconceptions that together comprise his unique psychological makeup. Trump declined to be interviewed for this story, but his life history has been well documented in his own books and speeches, in biographical sources, and in the press. My aim is to develop a dispassionate and analytical perspective on Trump, drawing upon some of the most important ideas and research findings in psychological science today.

I. HIS DISPOSITION
FIFTY YEARS OF EMPIRICAL RESEARCH in personality psychology have resulted in a scientific consensus regarding the most basic dimensions of human variability. There are countless ways to differentiate one person from the next, but psychological scientists have settled on a relatively simple taxonomy, known widely as the Big Five:

Extroversion: gregariousness, social dominance, enthusiasm, reward-seeking behavior

Neuroticism: anxiety, emotional instability, depressive tendencies, negative emotions

Conscientiousness: industriousness, discipline, rule abidance, organization

Agreeableness: warmth, care for others, altruism, compassion, modesty

Openness: curiosity, unconventionality, imagination, receptivity to new ideas

Most people score near the middle on any given dimension, but some score toward one pole or the other. Research decisively shows that higher scores on extroversion are associated with greater happiness and broader social connections, higher scores on conscientiousness predict greater success in school and at work, and higher scores on agreeableness are associated with deeper relationships. By contrast, higher scores on neuroticism are always bad, having proved to be a risk factor for unhappiness, dysfunctional relationships, and mental-health problems. From adolescence through midlife, many people tend to become more conscientious and agreeable, and less neurotic, but these changes are typically slight: The Big Five personality traits are pretty stable across a person’s lifetime.

The psychologists Steven J. Rubenzer and Thomas R.Faschingbauer, in conjunction with about 120 historians and other experts, have rated all the former U.S. presidents, going back to George Washington, on all five of the trait dimensions. George W. Bush comes out as especially high on extroversion and low on openness to experience—a highly enthusiastic and outgoing social actor who tends to be incurious and intellectually rigid. Barack Obama is relatively introverted, at least for a politician, and almost preternaturally low on neuroticism— emotionally calm and dispassionate, perhaps to a fault.

Across his lifetime, Donald Trump has exhibited a trait profile that you would not expect of a U.S. president: sky-high extroversion combined with off-the-chart low agreeableness. This is my own judgment, of course, but I believe that a great majority of people who observe Trump would agree. There is nothing especially subtle about trait attributions. We are not talking here about deep, unconscious processes or clinical diagnoses. As social actors, our performances are out there for everyone to see.

Like George W. Bush and Bill Clinton (and Teddy Roosevelt, who tops the presidential extroversion list), Trump plays his role in an outgoing, exuberant, and socially dominant manner. He is a dynamo—driven, restless, unable to keep still. He gets by with very little sleep. In his 1987 book, The Art of the Deal, Trump described his days as stuffed with meetings and phone calls. Some 30 years later, he is still constantly interacting with other people—at rallies, in interviews, on social media. Presidential candidates on the campaign trail are studies in perpetual motion. But nobody else seems to embrace the campaign with the gusto of Trump. And no other candidate seems to have so much fun. A sampling of his tweets at the time of this writing:

3:13A.M., APRIL 12: “WOW, great new poll— New York! Thank you for your support!”

4:22 A.M., APRIL 9: “Bernie Sanders says that Hillary Clinton is unqualified to be president. Based on her decision making ability, I can go along with that!”

5:03 A.M., APRIL 8: “So great to be in New York. Catching up on many things (remember, I am still running a major business while I campaign), and loving it!”

12:25 P.M., APRIL 5: “Wow, @Politico is in total disarray with almost everyone quitting. Good news—bad, dishonest journalists!”

A cardinal feature of high extroversion is relentless reward-seeking. Prompted by the activity of dopamine circuits in the brain, highly extroverted actors are driven to pursue positive emotional experiences, whether they come in the form of social approval, fame, or wealth. Indeed, it is the pursuit itself, more so even than the klix attainment of the goal, that extroverts find so gratifying. When Barbara Walters asked Trump in 1987 whether he would like to be appointed president of the United States, rather than having to run for the job, Trump said no: “It’s the hunt that I believe I love.”

Trump’s agreeableness seems even more extreme than his extroversion, but in the opposite direction. Arguably the most highly valued human trait the world over, agreeableness pertains to the extent to which a person appears to be caring, loving, affectionate, polite, and kind. Trump loves his family, for sure. He is reported to be a generous and fair-minded boss. There is even a famous story about his meeting with a boy who was dying of cancer. A fan of The Apprentice, the young boy simply wanted Trump to tell him, “You’re fired!” Trump could not bring himself to do it, but instead wrote the boy a check for several thousand dollars and told him, “Go and have the time of your life.” But like extroversion and the other Big Five traits, agreeableness is about an overall style of relating to others and to the world, and these noteworthy exceptions run against the broad social reputation Trump has garnered as a remarkably disagreeable person, based upon a lifetime of widely observed interactions. People low in agreeableness are described as callous, rude, arrogant, and lacking in empathy. If Donald Trump does not score low on this personality dimension, then probably nobody does.

Researchers rank Richard Nixon as the nation’s most disagreeable president. But he was sweetness and light compared with the man who once sent The New York Times’ Gail Collins a copy of her own column with her photo circled and the words “The Face of a Dog!” scrawled on it. Complaining in Never Enough about “some nasty shit” that Cher, the singer and actress, once said about him, Trump bragged: “I knocked the shit out of her” on Twitter, “and she never said a thing about me after that.” At campaign rallies, Trump has encouraged his supporters to rough up protesters. “Get ’em out of here!” he yells. “I’d like to punch him in the face.” From unsympathetic journalists to political rivals, Trump calls his opponents “disgusting” and writes them off as “losers.” By the standards of reality TV, Trump’s disagreeableness may not be so shocking. But political candidates who want people to vote for them rarely behave like this.

Trump’s tendencies toward social ambition and aggressiveness were evident very early in his life, as we will see later. (By his own account, he once punched his second-grade music teacher, giving him a black eye.) According to Barbara Res, who in the early 1980s served as vice president in charge of construction of Trump Tower in Manhattan, the emotional core around which Donald Trump’s personality constellates is anger: “As far as the anger is concerned, that’s real for sure. He’s not faking it,” she told The Daily Beast in February. “The fact that he gets mad, that’s his personality.” Indeed, anger may be the operative emotion behind Trump’s high extroversion as well as his low agreeableness. Anger can fuel malice, but it can also motivate social dominance, stoking a desire to win the adoration of others. Combined with a considerable gift for humor (which may also be aggressive), anger lies at the heart of Trump’s charisma. And anger permeates his political rhetoric.

IMAGINE DONALD TRUMP in the White House. What kind of decision maker might he be?

It is very difficult to predict the actions a president will take. When the dust settled after the 2000 election, did anybody foresee that George W. Bush would someday launch a preemptive invasion of Iraq? If so, I haven’t read about it. Bush probably would never have gone after Saddam Hussein if 9/11 had not happened. But world events invariably hijack a presidency. Obama inherited a devastating recession, and after the 2010 midterm elections, he struggled with a recalcitrant Republican Congress. What kinds of decisions might he have made had these events not occurred? We will never know.

Still, dispositional personality traits may provide clues to a president’s decision-makingstyle. Research suggests that extroverts tend to take high-stakes risks and that people with low levels of openness rarely question their deepest convictions. Entering office with high levels of extroversion and very low openness, Bush was predisposed to make bold decisions aimed at achieving big rewards, and to make them with the assurance that he could not be wrong. As I argued in my psychological biography of Bush, the game-changing decision to invade Iraq was the kind of decision he was likely to make. As world events transpired to open up an opportunity for the invasion, Bush found additional psychological affirmation both in his lifelong desire—pursued again and again before he ever became president—to defend his beloved father from enemies (think: Saddam Hussein) and in his own life story, wherein the hero liberates himself from oppressive forces (think: sin, alcohol) to restore peace and freedom.

Like Bush, a President Trump might try to swing for the fences in an effort to deliver big payoffs—to make America great again, as his campaign slogan says. As a real-estate developer, he has certainly taken big risks, although he has become a more conservative businessman following setbacks in the 1990s. As a result of the risks he has taken, Trump can (and does) point to luxurious urban towers, lavish golf courses, and a personal fortune that is, by some estimates, in the billions, all of which clearly bring him big psychic rewards. Risky decisions have also resulted in four Chapter 11 business bankruptcies involving some of his casinos and resorts. Because he is not burdened with Bush’s low level of openness (psychologists have rated Bush at the bottom of the list on this trait), Trump may be a more flexible and pragmatic decision maker, more like Bill Clinton than Bush: He may look longer and harder than Bush did before he leaps. And because he is viewed as markedly less ideological than most presidential candidates (political observers note that on some issues he seems conservative, on others liberal, and on still others nonclassifiable), Trump may be able to switch positions easily, leaving room to maneuver in negotiations with Congress and foreign leaders. But on balance, he’s unlikely to shy away from risky decisions that, should they work out, could burnish his legacy and provide him an emotional payoff.

The real psychological wild card, however, is Trump’s agreeableness—or lack thereof. There has probably never been a U.S. president as consistently and overtly disagreeable on the public stage as Donald Trump is. If Nixon comes closest, we might predict that Trump’s style of decision making would look like the hard-nosed realpolitik that Nixon and his secretary of state, Henry Kissinger, displayed in international affairs during the early 1970s, along with its bare-knuckled domestic analog. That may not be all bad, depending on one’s perspective. Not readily swayed by warm sentiments or humanitarian impulses, decision makers who, like Nixon, are dispositionally low on agreeableness might hold certain advantages when it comes to balancing competing interests or bargaining with adversaries, such as China in Nixon’s time. In international affairs, Nixon was tough, pragmatic, and coolly rational. Trump seems capable of a similar toughness and strategic pragmatism, although the cool rationality does not always seem to fit, probably because Trump’s disagreeableness appears so strongly motivated by anger.

In domestic politics, Nixon was widely recognized to be cunning, callous, cynical, and Machiavellian, even by the standards of American politicians. Empathy was not his strong suit. This sounds a lot like Donald Trump, too—except you have to add the ebullient extroversion, the relentless showmanship, and the larger-than-life celebrity. Nixon could never fill a room the way Trump can.

Research shows that people low in agreeableness are typically viewed as untrustworthy. Dishonesty and deceit brought down Nixon and damaged the institution of the presidency. It is generally believed today that all politicians lie, or at least dissemble, but Trump appears extreme in this regard. Assessing the truthfulness of the 2016 candidates’ campaign statements, PolitiFact recently calculated that only 2 percent of the claims made by Trump are true, 7 percent are mostly true, 15 percent are half true, 15 percent are mostly false, 42 percent are false, and 18 percent are “pants on fire.” Adding up the last three numbers (from mostly false to flagrantly so), Trump scores 75 percent. The corresponding figures for Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Bernie Sanders, and Hillary Clinton, respectively, are 66, 32, 31, and 29 percent.

In sum, Donald Trump’s basic personality traits suggest a presidency that could be highly combustible. One possible yield is an energetic, activist president who has a less than cordial relationship with the truth. He could be a daring and ruthlessly aggressive decision maker who desperately desires to create the strongest, tallest, shiniest, and most awesome result—and who never thinks twice about the collateral damage he will leave behind. Tough. Bellicose. Threatening. Explosive.

COMBINED WITH A GIFT FOR HUMOR, ANGER LIES AT THE HEART OF TRUMP’S CHARISMA.

IN THE PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST of 1824, Andrew Jackson won the most electoral votes, edging out John Quincy Adams, Henry Clay, and William Crawford. Because Jackson did not have a majority, however, the election was decided in the House of Representatives, where Adams prevailed. Adams subsequently chose Clay as his secretary of state. Jackson’s supporters were infuriated by what they described as a “corrupt bargain” between Adams and Clay. The Washington establishment had defied the will of the people, they believed. Jackson rode the wave of public resentment to victory four years later, marking a dramatic turning point in American politics. A beloved hero of western farmers and frontiersmen, Jackson was the first nonaristocrat to become president. He was the first president to invite everyday folk to the inaugural reception. To the horror of the political elite, throngs tracked mud through the White House and broke dishes and decorative objects. Washington insiders reviled Jackson. They saw him as intemperate, vulgar, and stupid. Opponents called him a jackass—the origin of the donkey symbol for the Democratic Party. In a conversation with Daniel Webster in 1824, Thomas Jefferson described Jackson as “one of the most unfit men I know of ” to become president of the United States, “a dangerous man” who cannot speak in a civilized manner because he “choke[s] with rage,” a man whose “passions are terrible.” Jefferson feared that the slightest insult from a foreign leader could impel Jackson to declare war. Even Jackson’s friends and admiring colleagues feared his volcanic temper. Jackson fought at least 14 duels in his life, leaving him with bullet fragments lodged throughout his body. On the last day of his presidency, he admitted to only two regrets: that he was never able to shoot Henry Clay or hang John C. Calhoun.

The similarities between Andrew Jackson and Donald Trump do not end with their aggressive temperaments and their respective positions as Washington outsiders. The similarities extend to the dynamic created between these dominant social actors and their adoring audiences—or, to be fairer to Jackson, what Jackson’s political opponents consistently feared that dynamic to be. They named Jackson “King Mob” for what they perceived as his demagoguery. Jackson was an angry populist, they believed—a wild-haired mountain man who channeled the crude sensibilities of the masses. More than 100 years before social scientists would invent the concept of the authoritarian personality to explain the people who are drawn to autocratic leaders, Jackson’s detractors feared what a popular strongman might do when encouraged by an angry mob.

During and after World War II, psychologists conceived of the authoritarian personality as a pattern of attitudes and values revolving around adherence to society’s traditional norms, submission to authorities who personify or reinforce those norms, and antipathy—to the point of hatred and aggression— toward those who either challenge in-group norms or lie outside their orbit. Among white Americans, high scores on measures of authoritarianism today tend to be associated with prejudice against a wide range of “out-groups,” including homosexuals, African Americans, immigrants, and Muslims. Authoritarianism is also associated with suspiciousness of the humanities and the arts, and with cognitive rigidity, militaristic sentiments, and Christian fundamentalism.

When individuals with authoritarian proclivities fear that their way of life is being threatened, they may turn to strong leaders who promise to keep them safe—leaders like Donald Trump. In a national poll conducted recently by the political scientist Matthew MacWilliams, high levels of authoritarianism emerged as the single strongest predictor of expressing political support for Donald Trump. Trump’s promise to build a wall on the Mexican border to keep illegal immigrants out and his railing against Muslims and other outsiders have presumably fed that dynamic.

As the social psychologist Jesse Graham has noted, Trump appeals to an ancient fear of contagion, which analogizes out-groups to parasites, poisons, and other impurities. In this regard, it is perhaps no psychological accident that Trump displays a phobia of germs, and seems repulsed by bodily fluids, especially women’s. He famously remarked that Megyn Kelly of Fox News had “blood coming out of her wherever,” and he repeatedly characterized Hillary Clinton’s bathroom break during a Democratic debate as “disgusting.” Disgust is a primal response to impurity. On a daily basis, Trump seems to experience more disgust, or at least to say he does, than most people do.

The authoritarian mandate is to ensure the security, purity, and goodness of the in-group—to keep the good stuff in and the bad stuff out. In the 1820s, white settlers in Georgia and other frontier areas lived in constant fear of American Indian tribes. They resented the federal government for not keeping them safe from what they perceived to be a mortal threat and a corrupting contagion. Responding to these fears, President Jackson pushed hard for the passage of the Indian Removal Act, which eventually led to the forced relocation of 45,000 American Indians. At least 4,000 Cherokees died on the Trail of Tears, which ran from Georgia to the Oklahoma territory.

An American strand of authoritarianism may help explain why the thrice-married, foul-mouthed Donald Trump should prove to be so attractive to white Christian evangelicals. As Jerry Falwell Jr. told The New York Times in February, “All the social issues—traditional family values, abortion—are moot if ISIS blows up some of our cities or if the borders are not fortified.” Rank-and-file evangelicals “are trying to save the country,” Falwell said. Being “saved” has a special resonance among evangelicals—saved from sin and damnation, of course, but also saved from the threats and impurities of a corrupt and dangerous world.

When my research associates and I once asked politically conservative Christians scoring high on authoritarianism to imagine what their life (and their world) might have been like had they never found religious faith, many described utter chaos—families torn apart, rampant infidelity and hate, cities on fire, the inner rings of hell. By contrast, equally devout politically liberal Christians who scored low on authoritarianism described a barren world depleted of all resources, joyless and bleak, like the arid surface of the moon. For authoritarian Christians, a strong faith— like a strong leader—saves them from chaos and tamps down fears and conflicts. Donald Trump is a savior, even if he preens and swears, and waffles on the issue of abortion.

In December, on the campaign trail in Raleigh, North Carolina, Trump stoked fears in his audience by repeatedly saying that “something bad is happening” and “something really dangerous is going on.” He was asked by a 12-year-old girl from Virginia, “I’m scared—what are you going to do to protect this country?”

Trump responded: “You know what, darling? You’re not going to be scared anymore.They’re going to be scared.”

TRUMP APPEALS TO AN ANCIENT FEAR OF CONTAGION, WHICH ANALOGIZES OUT-GROUPS TO PARASITES AND POISONS.

II. HIS MENTAL HABITS

IN THE ART OF THE DEAL, Trump counsels executives, CEOs, and other deal makers to “think big,” “use your leverage,” and always “fight back.” When you go into a negotiation, you must begin from a position of unassailable strength. You must project bigness. “I aim very high, and then I just keep pushing and pushing and pushing to get what I’m after,” he writes.

For Trump, the concept of “the deal” represents what psychologists call a personal schema—a way of knowing the world that permeates his thoughts. Cognitive-science research suggests that people rely on personal schemata to process new social information efficiently and effectively. By their very nature, however, schemata narrow a person’s focus to a few well-worn approaches that may have worked in the past, but may not necessarily bend to accommodate changing circumstances. A key to successful decision making is knowing what your schemata are, so that you can change them when you need to.

In the negotiations for the Menie Estate in Scotland, Trump wore Tom Griffin down by making one outlandish demand after another and bargaining hard on even the most trivial issues of disagreement. He never quit fighting. “Sometimes, part of making a deal is denigrating your competition,” Trump writes. When local residents refused to sell properties that Trump needed in order to finish the golf resort, he ridiculed them on theLate Show With David Letterman and in news papers, describing the locals as rubes who lived in “disgusting” ramshackle hovels. As D’Antonio recounts in Never Enough, Trump’s attacks incurred the enmity of millions in the British Isles, inspired an award-winning documentary highly critical of Trump (You’ve Been Trumped), and transformed a local farmer and part-time fisher man named Michael Forbes into a national hero. After painting the words NO GOLF COURSE on his barn and telling Trump he could “take his money and shove it up his arse,” Forbes received the 2012 Top Scot honor at the Glenfiddich Spirit of Scotland Awards. (That same year, Trump’s golf course was completed nonethe less. He promised that its construction would create 1,200 permanent jobs in the Aberdeen area, but to date, only about 200 have been documented.)

Trump’s recommendations for successful deal making include less antagonistic strategies: “protect the downside” (antici pate what can go wrong), “maximize your options,” “know your market,” “get the word out,” and “have fun.” As president, Trump would negotiate better trade deals with China, he says, guarantee a better health-care system by making deals with pharmaceutical companies and hospitals, and force Mexico to agree to a deal whereby it would pay for a border wall. On the campaign trail, he has often said that he would simply pick up the phone and call people—say, a CEO wishing to move his company to Mexico—in order to make propitious deals for the American people.

Trump’s focus on personal relationships and one-on-one negotiating pays respect to a venerable political tradition. For example, a contributor to Lyndon B. Johnson’s success in pushing through civil-rights legislation and other social programs in the 1960s was his unparalleled expertise in cajoling lawmakers. Obama, by contrast, has been accused of failing to put in the personal effort needed to forge close and productive relationships with individual members of Congress.

Having said that, deal making is an apt description for only some presidential activities, and the modern presidency is too complex to rely mainly on personal relationships. Presidents work within institutional frameworks that transcend the idiosyncratic relationships between specific people, be they heads of state, Cabinet secretaries, or members of Congress. The most-effective leaders are able to maintain some measure of distance from the social and emotional fray of every day politics. Keeping the big picture in mind and balancing a myriad of competing interests, they cannot afford to invest too heavily in any particular relationship. For U.S. presidents, the political is not merely personal. It has to be much more.

Trump has hinted at other means through which he might address the kind of complex, long-standing problems that presidents face. “Here’s the way I work,” he writes inCrippled America: How to Make America Great Again, the campaign manifesto he published late last year. “I find the people who are the best in the world at what needs to be done, then I hire them to do it, and then I let them do it … but I always watch over them.” And Trump knows that he cannot do it alone:

Many of our problems, caused by years of stupid deci sions, or no decisions at all, have grown into a huge mess. If I could wave a magic wand and fix them, I’d do it. But there are a lot of different voices—and interests—that have to be considered when working toward solutions. This involves getting people into a room and negotiat ing compromises until every one walks out of that room on the same page.

Amid the polarized political rhetoric of 2016, it is refreshing to hear a candidate invoke the concept of compromise and acknowl edge that different voices need to be heard. Still, Trump’s image of a bunch of people in a room hashing things out connotes a neater and more self-contained process than political reality affords. It is possible that Trump could prove to be adept as the helmsman of an unwieldy government whose operation involves much more than striking deals—but that would require a set of schemata and skills that appear to lie outside his accustomed way of solving problems.

III. HIS MOTIVATIONS

FOR PSYCHOLOGISTS, it is almost impossible to talk about Donald Trump without using the word na
rcissism. Asked to sum up Trump’s personality for an article in Vanity Fair, Howard Gardner, a psychologist at Harvard, responded, “Remarkably narcissistic.” George Simon, a clinical psychologist who conducts seminars on manipulative behavior, says Trump is “so classic that I’m archiving video clips of him to use in workshops because there’s no better example” of narcissism. “Otherwise I would have had to hire actors and write vignettes. He’s like a dream come true.”

When I walk north on Michigan Avenue in Chicago, where I live, I often stop to admire the sleek tower that Trump built on the Chicago River. But why did he have to stencil his name in 20-foot letters across the front? As nearly everybody knows, Trump has attached his name to pretty much everything he has ever touched—from casinos to steaks to a so-called university that promised to teach students how to become rich. Self-references pervade Trump’s speeches and conversations, too. When, in the summer of 1999, he stood up to offer remarks at his father’s funeral, Trump spoke mainly about himself. It was the toughest day of his own life, Trump began. He went on to talk about Fred Trump’s greatest achievement: raising a brilliant and renowned son. As Gwenda Blair writes in her three-generation biography of the Trump family, The Trumps, “the first-person singular pronouns, the I and me and my, eclipsed the he and his. Where others spoke of their memories of Fred Trump, [Donald] spoke of Fred Trump’s endorsement.”

In the ancient Greek legend, the beautiful boy Narcissus falls so completely in love with the reflection of himself in a pool that he plunges into the water and drowns. The story provides the mythical source for the modern concept of narcissism, which is conceived as excessive self-love and the attendant qualities of grandiosity and a sense of entitlement. Highly narcissistic people are always trying to draw attention to themselves. Repeated and inordinate selfreference is a distinguishing feature of their personality.

To consider the role of narcissism in Donald Trump’s life is to go beyond the dispositional traits of the social actor— beyond the high extroversion and low agreeableness, beyond his personal schemata for decision making—to try to figure out what motivates the man. What does Donald Trump really want? What are his most valued life goals?

Narcissus wanted, more than anything else, to love himself. People with strong narcissistic needs want to love themselves, and they desperately want others to love them too—or at least admire them, see them as brilliant and powerful and beautiful, even just see them, period. The fundamental life goal is to promote the greatness of the self, for all to see. “I’m the king of Palm Beach,” Trump told the journalist Timothy O’Brien for his 2005 book, TrumpNation. Celebrities and rich people “all come over” to Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s exclusive Palm Beach estate. “They all eat, they all love me, they all kiss my ass. And then they all leave and say, ‘Isn’t he horrible.’ But I’m the king.”

The renowned psychoanalytic theorist Heinz Kohut argued that narcissism stems from a deficiency in early-life mirroring: The parents fail to lovingly reflect back the young boy’s (or girl’s) own budding grandiosity, leaving the child in desperate need of affirmation from others. Accordingly, some experts insist that narcissistic motivations cover up an underlying insecurity. But others argue that there is nothing necessarily compensatory, or even immature, about certain forms of narcissism. Consistent with this view, I can find no evidence in the biographical record to suggest that Donald Trump experienced anything but a loving relationship with his mother and father. Narcissistic people like Trump may seek glorification over and over, but not necessarily because they suffered from negative family dynamics as children. Rather, they simply cannot get enough. The parental praise and strong encouragement that might reinforce a sense of security for most boys and young men may instead have added rocket fuel to Donald Trump’s hot ambitions.

NARCISSISM IN PRESIDENTS IS A DOUBLEEDGED SWORD. IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH HISTORIANS’ RATINGS OF “GREATNESS”— BUT ALSO WITH IMPEACHMENT RESOLUTIONS.

Ever since grade school, Trump has wanted to be No. 1. Attending New York Military Academy for high school, he was relatively popular among his peers and with the faculty, but he did not have any close confidants. As both a coach and an admiring classmate recall in The Trumps, Donald stood out for being the most competitive young man in a very competitive environment. His need to excel—to be the best athlete in school, for example, and to chart out the most ambitious future career—may have crowded out intense friendships by making it impossible for him to show the kind of weakness and vulnerability that true intimacy typically requires.

Whereas you might think that narcissism would be part of the job description for anybody aspiring to become the chief executive of the United States, American presidents appear to have varied widely on this psychological construct. In a 2013Psychological Science research article, behavioral scientists ranked U.S. presidents on characteristics of what the authors called “grandiose narcissism.” Lyndon Johnson scored the highest, followed closely by Teddy Roosevelt and Andrew Jackson. Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Nixon, and Clinton were next. Millard Fillmore ranked the lowest. Correlating these ranks with objective indices of presidential performance, the researchers found that narcissism in presidents is something of a double-edged sword. On the positive side, grandiose narcissism is associated with initiating legislation, public persuasiveness, agenda setting, and historians’ ratings of “greatness.” On the negative side, it is also associated with unethical behavior and congressional impeachment resolutions.

In business, government, sports, and many other arenas, people will put up with a great deal of self-serving and obnoxious behavior on the part of narcissists as long as the narcissists continually perform at high levels. Steve Jobs was, in my opinion, every bit Trump’s equal when it comes to grandiose narcissism. He heaped abuse on colleagues, subordinates, and friends; cried, at age 27, when he learned that Time magazine had not chosen him to be Man of the Year; and got upset when he received a congratulatory phone call, following the iPad’s introduction in 2010, from President Obama’s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, rather than the president himself. Unlike Trump, he basically ignored his kids, to the point of refusing to acknowledge for some time that one of them was his.

Psychological research demonstrates that many narcissists come across as charming, witty, and charismatic upon initial acquaintance. They can attain high levels of popularity and esteem in the short term. As long as they prove to be successful and brilliant—like Steve Jobs—they may be able to weather criticism and retain their exalted status. But more often than not, narcissists wear out their welcome. Over time, people become annoyed, if not infuriated, by their self-centeredness. When narcissists begin to disappoint those whom they once dazzled, their descent can be especially precipitous. There is still truth today in the ancient proverb: Pride goeth before the fall.

IV. HIS SELF-CONCEPTION

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is more than a chief executive. He (or she) is also a symbol, for the nation and for the world, of what it means to be an American. Much of the president’s power to represent and to inspire comes from narrative. It is largely through the stories he tells or personifies, and through the stories told about him, that a president exerts moral force and fashions a nationdefining legacy.

Like all of us, presidents create in their minds personal life stories—or what psychologists call narrative identities—to explain how they came to be who they are. This process is often unconscious, involving the selective reinterpretation of the past and imagination of the future. A growing body of research in personality, developmental, and social psychology demonstrates that a life story provides adults with a sense of coherence, purpose, and continuity over time. Presidents’ narratives about themselves can also color their view of national identity, and influence their understanding of national priorities and progress.

In middle age, George W. Bush formulated a life story that traced the transformation of a drunken ne’er-do-well into a selfregulated man of God. Key events in the story were his decision to marry a steady librarian at age 31, his conversion to evangelical Christianity in his late 30s, and his giving up alcohol forever the day after his 40th birthday party. By atoning for his sins and breaking his addiction, Bush was able to recover the feeling of control and freedom that he had enjoyed as a young boy growing up in Midland, Texas. Extending his narrative to the story of his country, Bush believed that American society could recapture the wholesome family values and small-town decency of yesteryear, by embracing a brand of compassionate conservatism. On the international front, he believed that oppressed people everywhere could enjoy the same kind of God-given rights—self-determination and freedom—if they could be emancipated from their oppressors. His redemptive story helped him justify, for better and for worse, a foreign war aimed at overthrowing a tyrant.

In Dreams From My Father, Barack Obama told his own redemptive life story, tracking a move from enslavement to liberation. Obama, of course, did not directly experience the horrors of slavery or the indignities of Jim Crow discrimination. But he imagined himself as the heir to that legacy, the Joshua to the Moses of Martin Luther King Jr. and other past advocates for human rights who had cleared a path for him. His story was a progressive narrative of ascent that mirrored the nation’s march toward equality and freedom—the long arc of history that bends toward justice, as King described it. Obama had already identified himself as a protagonist in this grand narrative by the time he married Michelle Robinson, at age 31.

What about Donald Trump? What is the narrative he has constructed in his own mind about how he came to be the person he is today? And can we find inspiration there for a compelling American story?

Our narrative identities typically begin with our earliest memories of childhood. Rather than faithful reenactments of the past as it actually was, these distant memories are more like mythic renderings of what we imagine the world to have been. Bush’s earliest recollections were about innocence, freedom, and good times growing up on the West Texas plains. For Obama, there is a sense of wonder but also confusion about his place in the world. Donald Trump grew up in a wealthy 1950s family with a mother who was devoted to the children and a father who was devoted to work. Parked in front of their mansion in Jamaica Estates, Queens, was a Cadillac for him and a Rolls-Royce for her. All five Trump children—Donald was the fourth—enjoyed a family environment in which their parents loved them and loved each other. And yet the first chapter in Donald Trump’s story, as he tells it today, expresses nothing like Bush’s gentle nostalgia or Obama’s curiosity. Instead, it is saturated with a sense of danger and a need for toughness: The world cannot be trusted.

Fred Trump made a fortune building, owning, and managing apartment complexes in Queens and Brooklyn. On weekends, he would occasionally take one or two of his children along to inspect buildings. “He would drag me around with him while he collected small rents in tough sections of Brooklyn,” Donald recalls in Crippled America. “It’s not fun being a landlord. You have to be tough.” On one such trip, Donald asked Fred why he always stood to the side of the tenant’s door after ringing the bell. “Because sometimes they shoot right through the door,” his father replied. While Fred’s response may have been an exaggeration, it reflected his worldview. He trained his sons to be tough competitors, because his own experience taught him that if you were not vigilant and fierce, you would never survive in business. His lessons in toughness dovetailed with Donald’s inborn aggressive temperament. “Growing up in Queens, I was a pretty tough kid,” Trump writes. “I wanted to be the toughest kid in the neighborhood.”

Fred applauded Donald’s toughness and encouraged him to be a “killer,” but he was not too keen about the prospects of juvenile delinquency. His decision to send his 13-year-old son off to military school, so as to alloy aggression with discipline, followed Donald’s trip on the subway into Manhattan, with a friend, to purchase switchblades. As Trump tells it decades later, New York Military Academy was “a tough, tough place. There were ex–drill sergeants all over the place.” The instructors “used to beat the shit out of you; those guys were rough.”

Military school reinforced the strong work ethic and sense of discipline Trump had learned from his father. And it taught him how to deal with aggressive men, like his intimidating baseball coach, Theodore Dobias:

ANDREW JACKSON DISPLAYED MANY OF THE SAME PSYCHOLOGICAL QUALITIES THAT WE SEE IN TRUMP.

What I did, basically, was to convey that I respected his authority, but that he didn’t intimidate me. It was a delicate balance. Like so many strong guys, Dobias had a tendency to go for the jugular if he smelled weakness. On the other hand, if he sensed strength but you didn’t try to undermine him, he treated you like a man.

Trump has never forgotten the lesson he learned from his father and from his teachers at the academy: The world is a dangerous place. You have to be ready to fight. The same lesson was reinforced in the greatest tragedy that Trump has heretofore known—the death of his older brother at age 43. Freddy Trump was never able to thrive in the competitive environment that his father created. Described by Blair in The Trumps as “too much the sweet lightweight, a mawkish but lovable loser,” Freddy failed to impress his father in the family business and eventually became an airline pilot. Alcoholism contributed to his early death. Donald, who doesn’t drink, loved his brother and grieved when he died. “Freddy just wasn’t a killer,” he concluded.

In Trump’s own words from a 1981 People interview, the fundamental backdrop for his life narrative is this: “Man is the most vicious of all animals, and life is a series of battles ending in victory or defeat.” The protagonist of this story is akin to what the great 20th-century scholar and psychoanalyst Carl Jung identified in myth and folklore as the archetypal warrior. According to Jung, the warrior’s greatest gifts are courage, discipline, and skill; his central life task is to fight for what matters; his typical response to a problem is to slay it or otherwise defeat it; his greatest fear is weakness or impotence. The greatest risk for the warrior is that he incites gratuitous violence in others, and brings it upon himself.

Trump loves boxing and football, and once owned a professional football team. In the opening segment of The Apprentice, he welcomes the television audience to a brutal Darwinian world:

New York. My city. Where the wheels of the global economy never stop turning. A concrete metropolis of unparalleled strength and purpose that drives the business world. Manhattan is a tough place. This island is the real jungle. If you’re not careful, it can chew you up and spit you out. But if you work hard, you can really hit it big, and I mean reallybig.

The story here is not so much about making money. As Trump has written, “money was never a big motivation for me, except as a way to keep score.” The story instead is about coming out on top.

As president, Donald Trump promises, he would make America great again. In Crippled America, he says that a first step toward victory is building up the armed forces: “Everything begins with a strong military. Everything.” The enemies facing the United States are more terrifying than those the hero has confronted in Queens and Manhattan. “There has never been a more dangerous time,” Trump says. Members of ISIS “are medieval barbarians” who must be pursued “relentlessly wherever they are, without stopping, until every one of them is dead.” Less frightening but no less belligerent are our economic competitors, like the Chinese. They keep beating us. We have to beat them.

Economic victory is one thing; starting and winning real wars is quite another. In some ways, Trump appears to be less prone to military action than certain other candidates. He has strongly criticized George W.Bush’s decision to invade Iraq in 2003, and has cautioned against sending American troops to Syria.

That said, I believe there is good reason to fear Trump’s incendiary language regarding America’s enemies. David Winter, a psychologist at the University of Michigan, analyzed U.S. presidential inaugural addresses and found that those presidents who laced their speeches with power-oriented, aggressive imagery were more likely than those who didn’t to lead the country into war. The rhetoric that Trump uses to characterize both his own life story and his attitudes toward America’s foes is certainly aggressive. And, as noted, his extroversion and narcissism suggest a willingness to take big risks— actions that history will remember. Tough talk can sometimes prevent armed conflict, as when a potential adversary steps down in fear. But belligerent language may also incite nationalistic anger among Trump’s supporters, and provoke the rival nations at whom Trump takes aim.

A CROSS THE WORLD’S CULTURES, warrior narratives have traditionally been about and for young men. But Trump has kept this same kind of story going throughout his life. Even now, as he approaches the age of 70, he is still the warrior. Going back to ancient times, victorious young combatants enjoyed the spoils of war—material bounty, beautiful women. Trump has always been a big winner there. His life story in full tracks his strategic maneuvering in the 1970s, his spectacular victories (the Grand Hyatt Hotel, Trump Tower) in the 1980s, his defeats in the early 1990s, his comeback later in that same decade, and the expansion of his brand and celebrity ever since. Throughout it all, he has remained the ferocious combatant who fights to win.

But what broader purpose does winning the battle serve? What higher prize will victory secure? Here the story seems to go mute. You can listen all day to footage of Donald Trump on the campaign trail, you can read his books, you can watch his interviews—and you will rarely, if ever, witness his stepping back from the fray, coming home from the battlefront, to reflect upon the purpose of fighting to win—whether it is winning in his own life, or winning for America.

Trump’s persona as a warrior may inspire some Americans to believe that he will indeed be able to make America great again, whatever that may mean. But his narrative seems thematically underdeveloped compared with those lived and projected by previous presidents, and by his competitors. Although his candidacy never caught fire, Marco Rubio told an inspiring story of upward mobility in the context of immigration and ethnic pluralism. Ted Cruz boasts his own Horatio Alger narrative, ideologically grounded in a profoundly conservative vision for America. The story of Hillary Clinton’s life journey, from Goldwater girl to secretary of state, speaks to women’s progress—her election as president would be historic. Bernie Sanders channels a narrative of progressive liberal politics that Democrats trace back to the 1960s, reflected both in his biography and in his policy positions. To be sure, all of these candidates are fighters who want to win, and all want to make America great (again). But their life stories tell Americans what they may be fighting for, and what winning might mean.

Victories have given Trump’s life clarity and purpose. And he must relish the prospect of another big win, as the potential GOP nominee. But what principles for governing can be drawn from a narrative such as his? What guidance can such a story provide after the election, once the more nebulous challenge of actually being the president of the United States begins?

Donald Trump’s story—of himself and of America—tells us very little about what he might do as president, what philosophy of governing he might follow, what agenda he might lay out for the nation and the world, where he might direct his energy and anger. More important, Donald Trump’s story tells him very little about these same things.

Nearly two centuries ago, President Andrew Jackson displayed many of the same psychological characteristics we see in Donald Trump—the extroversion and social dominance, the volatile temper, the shades of narcissism, the populist authoritarian appeal. Jackson was, and remains, a controversial figure in American history. Nonetheless, it appears that Thomas Jefferson had it wrong when he characterized Jackson as completely unfit to be president, a dangerous man who choked on his own rage. In fact, Jackson’s considerable success in dramatically expanding the power of the presidency lay partly in his ability to regulate his anger and use it strategically to promote his agenda.

TRUMP HAS NEVER FORGOTTEN THE LESSON FROM HIS FATHER: THE WORLD IS A DANGEROUS PLACE. YOU HAVE TO BE READY TO FIGHT.

What’s more, Jackson personified a narrative that inspired large parts of America and informed his presidential agenda. His life story appealed to the common man because Jackson himself was a common man—one who rose from abject poverty and privation to the most exalted political position in the land. Amid the early rumblings of Southern secession, Jackson mobilized Americans to believe in and work hard for the Union. The populism that his detractors feared would lead to mob rule instead connected common Americans to a higher calling—a sovereign unity of states committed to democracy. The Frenchman Michel Chevalier, a witness to American life in the 1830s, wrote that the throngs of everyday people who admired Jackson and found sustenance and substance for their own life story in his “belong to history, they partake of the grand; they are the episodes of a wondrous epic which will bequeath a lasting memory to posterity, that of the coming of democracy.”

Who, really, is Donald Trump? What’s behind the actor’s mask? I can discern little more than narcissistic motivations and a complementary personal narrative about winning at any cost. It is as if Trump has invested so much of himself in developing and refining his socially dominant role that he has nothing left over to create a meaningful story for his life, or for the nation. It is always Donald Trump playing Donald Trump, fighting to win, but never knowing why.

Dan P. McAdams is the Henry Wade Rogers Professor of Psychology and the director of the Foley Center for the Study of Lives at Northwestern University. He is the author ofGeorge W. Bush and the Redemptive Dream: A Psychological Portrait and The Art and Science of Personality Development.
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- Trump poderao protivkandidate u Washingtonu i po svemu sudeći dostigao potreban broj delegata.


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Potreban broj delegata je dostigao prije Hillary Clinton i skoro dva mjeseca prije konvencije Republikanske stranke koja će se održati u julu ove godine.
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Sa druge strane, da establišment - koristeći mehanizam tzv. "superdelegata" - nije preuranjeno, otvoreno i drsko favorizovao H. Clinton, izborna trka unutar DS bi bila više nego neizvjesna.


Sve u svemu vrlo, vrlo zanimljiva situacija.
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The ESQ&A Donald Trump
UP IN HIS GILDED PALACE, HIGH ABOVE THE CHAOS HE'S CAUSED, THE MAN IS QUITE JOLLY

FIRST TIME I SEE HIS face in real life, Trump's on the move at his Trump Tower headquarters, heading down a hall of mirrors to get his Esquire photo taken. He stops to size me up from 10 or 15 feet away.

"Nice-looking guy!"

Thank you, sir.

His press secretary tells him my name is Scott.

"Hi, how are you?" Trump says. "Nice to see you."

And you.

But he's gone, down the hall. Me, I'm thinking about Larry David's old stand-up bit:

"You know, if he'd given me a compliment, Josef Mengele and I could have been friends—'Larry, your hair looks very good today.' Really? Thank you, Dr. Mengele!"

UH-OH: I WENT FULL death-camp Nazi there. Why not? That very morning's Times was shrieking about Trump's "racist lies" and comparing him to Joe McCarthy and George Wallace, missing the more painful, salient point, which is that Donald Trump is not those men and this isn't last century. This man—Donald Trump—has a legit shot at becoming the single most powerful human being in the world by running as a wartime candidate on policies that are, by current legal standards, crimes under the Constitution or the Geneva Conventions.

"We're going to have to do things that we never did before," he said, post-Paris and pre–San Bernardino. "And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule. And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we're going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago."

Donald Trump plans to register and spy on American Muslims, inflict torture, punish terrorists' families, plus carpet-bomb, plus deport 11 million immigrants, just like that. Those are the specifics—so far, for starters—of the megadeal Trump's negotiating with voters. For the sake of discussion, then, let's not take creeping fascism off the table or, for that matter, Hitler. The man peddling a book called Crippled America is selling the proposition that he is the only man strong enough to restore America's greatness as defined by the most terrified and angry among us. Vowing to do all this swiftly, painlessly, easily, always attacking, always outrageous, always on TV, Trump has built his brand into a cult of personality without precedent in American politics and at a moment of global darkness—with hard-right political parties gaining power in NATO allies France and Poland—during a scorched-earth Republican presidential campaign led by men explicitly promising to scorch plenty more earth.

American streets are running with the blood of innocents, in fact, and Donald Trump is just having a ball. He was in Columbus, Ohio, last night; he's heading to South Carolina in a couple hours; he's 69 years old; and he looks as strong as an ox. But sharp. A big, bluff fellow, even seated at his desk. And still a good-looking guy. The near wall is plastered with decades of Trump magazine covers, dozens of them, framed. He was gorgeous back in the day, and I say so.

"Nothing like the clock, right? I look at some of these pictures?…" he sighs. "This was a friend of mine—John Jr. He was the best-looking guy. That was the night before he died. He was the best-looking guy. He sold George magazine and he was going to run for the Senate. He would've been unbelievable."

Heartbreaking—that entire family.

"He was the best of the whole group. And this is The Apprentice. Number-one show on television."

You've done very well, sir.

"I like this guy," Trump says to his press secretary, who's seated off to the side, behind me. "It usually takes me, what, about three seconds to know? I had a guy come in from—what was it, GQ? He was the worst guy. He walked in with a cane. He wasn't an old guy, but he had a bad leg. You know that guy?"

No.

"He was the worst human—terrible guy. I actually said, 'Why are we wasting time with this guy?' "

I'm thinking that it was wise to wear a quality suit with a nice pair of shoes and the Rolex. I'm thinking Dr. Mengele did not smile upon the infirm either.

How do you keep the pace? I ask Trump. How do you refuel?

"I love what I'm doing. I love everything I've done in my life. I love being in the real estate business, I love writing books. You know, I've had many best sellers, and The Art of the Deal was probably the biggest-selling business book of all time."

It will live forever.

"The Apprentice was so incredible—we did 14 seasons of The Apprentice. NBC renewed me for two more seasons, and I said I can't do it because I'm running for president. And I gave up a lot of money—not only The Apprentice but on deals that I could do. But I'm not doing them because I'm doing this. And I'm loving running for president. Last night we had 14,000 people in Columbus. Today we're going to have 10,000 people in South Carolina. We're going down to Myrtle Beach."

So you don't work out?

"Well, it's an amazing thing. When I speak, I speak in big arenas, because we get by far the biggest crowds. And the people I have, I'm in love with them and they're in love with me and my concepts, because they understand, you know. We're tired of being led by stupid people. And that's what we are being led by—stupid and incompetent people. And when I speak, by the time I'm finished the room always becomes very warm, because it wasn't designed for that many people. For instance, last night we were in a convention center that wasn't designed for 14,000 people… . When I speak, it's a workout, a physical workout. You are really working when you're working in front of crowds of—I mean, a small crowd for me is now 10,000 people. And the good thing is, I'm able to do it without speeches. I'm able to do it without teleprompters, because I can talk about current events."

Oy.

"There's many things I'm going to be talking about today that yesterday I wouldn't be talking about. There's a picture of Putin, as an example, with the leaders. Here it is—front page of The Wall Street Journal. Look at that picture. Isn't that sad? This is today. That's Putin with all of the top people in Iran. They made a deal! They've joined. With Obama, we'll end up in World War III, because the guy is not respected. He doesn't know what he's doing. Look at that picture. Isn't that a terrible thing?"

Listen, there are also ways to see it as a good thing, a sign that the world might pull together.

Let's hope not. I've got a 16-year-old son. You've got an even younger kid.

"Right."

I hate to think, if things continue to go sour, how much worse they can get.

"Right. They're not looking good. But anyway, we're doing very well."

Trump tells his press secretary to tell me, off the record, about a new poll. I ask him about his family, about why his father's real estate business was called Elizabeth Trump & Son.

"My father's mother—Elizabeth Trump was my grandmother. Phenomenal woman. Came from Germany with her husband, and he went to Alaska to search for gold and ended up sort of going into the hotel business. He took care of the miners when they were searching for gold."

Alaska?

"In Alaska. And he died of pneumonia, actually. Which, you know, he was in Alaska but died of pneumonia. Did a good job. He ran a hotel business. He ran lodging, largely for people going out looking for gold in the Klondike."

Whoa.

"Great story. And she was an incredible woman. I remember her so well. She had three children, one of them my father; my father's brother became a great engineer. He taught at MIT. He went to MIT all the way through and he was a doctor. He became a doctor. When you become a doctor at MIT, you know one thing: smart. And he was a professor at MIT. He taught at MIT, but he was an engineer and a brilliant guy. So, you know, when you look at gene pools, it's always nice to have good genes."

And here you are, running for the single most powerful office on earth. What would they think?

"Well, it was so far from their comfort zone. My father never liked public speaking. And if he saw me speaking in front of 25,000 people—in Alabama we had 35,000 people in a football stadium. But I've had, you know—my crowds are now averaging probably 10,000 people."

The idea that a rich real estate guy from Queens is playing this well everywhere—are you surprised by that?

"Well, I think I'm surprised, Scott. Your first name is Scott, right?"

Yep.

"Okay. I think I'm surprised that we're doing this well this fast. I didn't do it to lose, okay?"

Obviously.

"Some people do it to lose. Some people do it just to get in the game. I mean, you look at some of these guys running, they have no chance, and you say, 'What are they doing?' But I didn't do it for that. I thought that I had a chance. I thought that I might have a good chance. But I've never done it before. I've only been a politician for four months, and now I'm leading, by a lot, in the presidential race. So I wouldn't have thought that I would have this kind of a lead, and I certainly wouldn't have thought that it would happen this fast. But we have now, hard to believe—we're down to two months by the time this comes out. What issue is this?"

His press secretary tells him February.

"All right, good. February 1 is the Iowa caucus. Let's just say, now we're very close and we'll see how it all works out. But I wouldn't have believed that I'd have this kind of a lead this fast."

People really seem to want a strong guy.

"Right."

A real leader. But you're a private-sector guy. Do you think about the system of checks and balances?

"Well, I've always been very public. I've always been, you know—people know me like I'm a public company because I've been so well-known for so long. The Apprentice put me out there at a very high level. My life has put me out there at a very high level. Everything about my life is known, so it's really not like a big secret or anything. And maybe that's why I'm doing well… . If you look at the polls that came out today out of Iowa, I'm killing everybody on the economy, I'm killing everybody on absolutely—you know, by four and five times. I'm just winning so big—on the economy, on the border, and on protection. And on leadership."

But the way they set up the system, even the strongest president wasn't a warrior king. You have to work with Congress, you have to—

"You have a lot of power over security and you have a lot of power over the border without dealing with anybody. And I deal with people. I mean, I know the system. Obama hasn't used the system. He signs executive orders all the time. He can't even get the Democrats, 'cause he doesn't really meet with very many people. I know Democrats who have hardly met him, and they're important people."

Did you read the New York Times editorial this morning?

"Yeah, that was … but The Wall Street Journal had a great editorial."

They're talking about George Wallace, Joe McCarthy—you saw this?

"Yeah, I saw that."

How do you respond to that? That's extreme.

"It was extreme. And, you know, don't forget: The New York Times is failing badly. They bought The Boston Globe for 1.1 billion dollars; they sold it for one dollar. They sold their headquarters for $170 million. The person who bought it flipped it for $500 million. And it was a very insulting editorial to put me into a group of people like that. But, you know, what are you going to do? It's The New York Times and they—it's a failing newspaper. And they've lost their way. Here's The Wall Street Journal today, though. That was a great one."

I didn't see that.

"You can take a quick look. Same day, I have two editorials. When did that ever happen?"

WITH FIVE MINUTES left in my half hour, Ivanka stops in while Trump is talking about the level of violence at his campaign events.

"It's very interesting—somebody else asked me the question today. We have a country that's in serious trouble. If we're not going to get tough and smart, many, many people are going to get hurt very badly. Hi, honey. This is my daughter Ivanka … . It's the cover of Esquire."

"Very cool," says Ivanka, who is every bit as lovely in person.

"She's five months pregnant," Trump says.

"Six months," says Ivanka. "Almost six months."

"I'll be five minutes," Trump says. "Go ahead, Scott."

You seem to be having a lot of fun with all of this.

"I'm having a great time—a great time. I'm connecting with so many people. It's a lovefest. I mean, sometime, even after you write this, if you want to come to one of these rallies, it's a lovefest. And I mean, I'm in love with them, they're in love with me. You go into those rooms, it's a lovefest. It's not describable unless you're there."

When you think about Donald Trump becoming the single most powerful man on earth—are you ready?

"Yeah. If I'm lucky enough to get it—and I'm not doing it for myself. I'm doing it because I would do a great job and I'd turn this country around. What country? We have a hundred million people in a workforce, in a potential workforce, you know that our real unemployment rate is probably 25 percent, not 5.2 percent. It's probably 25 or I wouldn't have the rallies that I have. I mean, honestly, if we had a 5 percent unemployment rate, I wouldn't be having all of these thousands of people coming to rallies. That's one of the things. I'll take jobs back from China; I'll do so many different things in terms of health care. There's so many things you can do, Scott. So yes, I'm totally ready."

Are you a worrier? You sleep good?

"I sleep good, yeah. I sleep good. I'm not a worrier. I, you know, I do what I have to do, but I'm not a person who worries. I understand life. I know life. I get it. And you don't want to be a worrier."

I see what the job does, to Obama and everyone else. It ages people fast.

"It does age people. That's one thing I will say about the presidency: I've watched so many of them get old in office. And I'm prepared for that. I feel very young right now. I'm prepared for that. Okay?"

THE DOSSIER: DONALD J. TRUMP
Date of birth: June 14, 1946
Which makes him: 69
Hometown: Queens, New York
Net worth: $4.5 billion
Homes owned: At least four: New York; Bedford, New York; Palm Beach, Florida; Beverly Hills
Not including: Golf clubs, luxury hotels, a winery
Childhood mantra: "Be a killer."
Instilled in him by: His father
Childhood temperament: "Extremely rebellious"
According to: His sister
Which is why he was sent to: The New York Military Academy in eighth grade
Where he was: "The best baseball player in New York"
According to: Himself
Signature attributes: Pronunciation of huge; "Blue Steel"–esque pout; constant use of superlatives; orange comb-over
Claims a lifelong abstinence from: Alcohol, drugs, and cigarettes
Despite which: He launched the "super-premium" Trump Vodka in 2006.
Which ceased production in: 2010
Nickname: The Donald
Given to him by: His first wife, Czech skier and model Ivana
Subsequent wives: Marla Maples, actress; Melania Trump, former model
Children: Five
Ranging from: Nine to 38 years old
Serves as trustee, president, chairman, or member of: 515 companies
Of which: At least 391 bear his name
Further résumé highlights: Host and executive producer of NBC's The Apprentice; presidential candidate; business advisor to Mike Tyson
Assorted accolades: A spot on Playgirl's 10 Sexiest Men list in 1986; a worst-supporting-actor Razzie for 1990's Ghosts Can't Do It; runner-up on Time's 2015 Person of the Year list
Political-party affiliations to date: Three: Republican,Democrat, and Independent
Issues he has wavered on: Abortion rights, universal health care, drug legalization, a ban on assault weapons, background checks for gun ownership
Issue he has never wavered on: "My life has been about winning. My life has not been about losing."
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pasha078 wrote:Pa dobro, poderao ih jer su odustali. :D
Nebitno. Bitno je sljedeće: Koliko je on (pa i Sanders) igrač pojedinih krugova "deep state", a ne koliko su njih dvojica "antisistemski Robin Hud" igrači, kako se žele predstaviti potencijalnim glasačima.

Ovo pitanje (vezano za Sandersa i Trumpa) sam često postavljao onim ljudima iz naše američke dijaspore za koje znam da imaju i škole i mozga. Nisam dobio zadvovoljavajući odgovor na čestim online-sesijama.

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Realno (uprkos negiranju Klix-ove američke dijaspore), USA su u banani, oni imaju ozbiljan problem, a nemali broj američkih građana je itekako nezadovoljan. Na tragu tog nezadovoljstva su se izdvojila pomenuta dvojica kandidata. Jednog je pomeo sistem (superdelegati) a drugi je tu gdje jeste. Istina, Sandersu sistem može ponuditi "rehabilitaciju", odnosno poziciju kandidata za podpredsjednika, ali mislim da bi eventualno prihvatanje takve ponude bilo za njega ravno političkom samoubistvu.

Ja, lično, od početka sumnjam da je Trump malo dublja priča od vidljive površine i jednostavnih objašnjena i mislim da jeste izraz težnje pojedinih krugova "deep state" za promjenom pardigme. Naravno, imaju jake i nadasve opasne oponente i to ovim izborima daje poseban naboj.



Toliko za sada.
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Niall Ferguson o Trumpu.

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Hillary Clinton se žestoko obrušila na Donalda Trumpa nazivajući ga "opasnim čovjekom"
- Hillary Clinton, koja će vjerojatno postati demokratska kandidatkinja za predsjednicu SAD-a, oštro se obrušila na republikanskog kandidata Donalda Trumpa ističući kako on nije sposoban biti predsjednik jer ne zna dovoljno ni o Americi ni o svijetu.

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Posebno se obrušila na njegovu vanjsku politiku
:arrow: Hillary Clinton's evisceration of Donald Trump


Donald Trump uzvratio:
- ...rekao je da je Hillary patetična, da je održala tužan i dosadan govor, da će istražiti njeno kršenje zakona ako postane predsjednik...

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da Hillary mnogo laže, da treba ići u zatvor, da je kriva kao pakao...
:arrow: Donald Trump fires back: ‘Hillary Clinton has to go to jail’
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Da uđe u zapisnik:

Tipujem da za USA postoji teoretska šansa da osvanu u egipatskom scenariju. Na kladionici bih, na ovaj ishod, za sada stavio vrlo visok kladionički koeficijent* koji će sa vremenom padati...

* (za zlonamjerne glupane, znači male šanse. Za sada...)
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/violence ... d=39576437

Ali stvarno ne kapiram i ove idiote koji napadaju ljude koji su za Trampa.

"Ej Hoze, ajmo prebit Americke gradjane koji su za Trampa i unistiti njihove automobile, to ce sigurno ubediti ljude da ne glasaju za njega".
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Challenger__ wrote:Da uđe u zapisnik:

Tipujem da za USA postoji teoretska šansa da osvanu u egipatskom scenariju. Na kladionici bih, na ovaj ishod, za sada stavio vrlo visok kladionički koeficijent* koji će sa vremenom padati...

* (za zlonamjerne glupane, znači male šanse. Za sada...)
Ovo mu dodje kao neka mutavija verzija Lazanskog. Ti si se imao za sta rodit', blago majci.
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AleksoMKD wrote:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/violence ... d=39576437

Ali stvarno ne kapiram i ove idiote koji napadaju ljude koji su za Trampa.

"Ej Hoze, ajmo prebit Americke gradjane koji su za Trampa i unistiti njihove automobile, to ce sigurno ubediti ljude da ne glasaju za njega".
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Kako ce im ova meksicka zastava i natpis o "native" meksickoj zemlji pomoci ... :-)

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jel ovo nopet demokrate koriste demokratske metode skakanja ljudima po autima :mrgreen:

fino, gospodski i nadasve moderno nema sta :thumbup:
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Zasto Amrikanci biraju Trumpa je odlicno objasnio O'Reilly.
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Black swan wrote:jel ovo nopet demokrate koriste demokratske metode skakanja ljudima po autima :mrgreen:

fino, gospodski i nadasve moderno nema sta :thumbup:
Je li to Trump katolik? :D
Ljuuuubav nije paradajz.....
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DONALD Trump supporters are sharing a photo on Twitter of what’s supposed to be a fellow supporter who was beaten and bloodied by anti-Trump protesters.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/ce ... cfd509eccf
Several pictures of supporters are circulating online sporting post-rally injuries, and this new picture would be a harrowing one, depicting a young woman covered in blood and bruises — except that it’s actually a photo of former Home And Away star Weaving.
Weaving played Indi Walker in the soap and, when the Trump picture was taken, she was in full make-up for Ash vs. Evil Dead, which is filming in New Zealand.
https://twitter.com/Cons_Nation/status/ ... 36/photo/1
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Xray wrote:Zasto Amrikanci biraju Trumpa je odlicno objasnio O'Reilly.
Ma daj bolan, ovo sto O'Rilley prica nema veze sa cinjenicama.
Upravu je samo u proceduralnom dijelu da su republikanci na zakon htjeli nakaciti jos 15 amandmana i naravno da nije proslo.
Problem nije u tome. Problem je sto od pojave Bill Clintona republikanci predstavljaju sebe kao uber patriote a demokrate kao neke izdajice. Kada je Obama dosao to je poprimilo razmjere rasizma, otvorene sabotaze itd. i ljudi su glasali za to. Glasali su protiv: muslimana, teroriste, kenijca i slicno, a republikanci nisu donijeli njegovu glavu na tanjiru.
Sada idu u krajnost misleci da ako Trump moze biti rasista i kandidovati se za predsjednika da i oni mogu onda svoje pravo rasisticko lice pokazat.
Problem je u tome sto se amerika mijenja i uvijek se mjenjala. Colbert je to rekao u par rijeci :America is always changing, ali ga je O'Rilley odbrusio jer bi izgubio svoju publiku ako bi to potvrdio.
SVe je manje bijelaca u SAD, i mnogi to ne mogu prihvatiti. Ekonomija se mjenjanja, i neke drzave poput Kalifornije, Kolorada, Nevade i slicno su skontale to. Neke drzave (republikanske vukojebine) rezu budzete za obrazovanje i time ne proizvode radnu snagu za novu ekonomiju, pri tome za to kriveci Obamu i demorkate. I onda dodje Trump i kaze: ja cu vratiti poslove, dok svoja odjela sije u Kini.
I na kraju ce Hillary pobjediti, ti bjelci iz Kansasa ce biti sve ljuci ali ce ih biti sve manje.
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Mislim da čovjek prosječne inteligencije ne može sebi dozvoliti da glasa za Trumpa. I svi to znaju, i u SAD-u i van nje. Ovo su izbori i test inteligencije u jednom danu.
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ALEKSANDAR HEMON: WHY I DIDN’T SIGN THE OPEN LETTER AGAINST TRUMP

June 1, 2016 By Aleksandar Hemon
http://lithub.com/aleksandar-hemon-why- ... nst-trump/



One would be hard-pressed to recall the last time writers made political news in America, but last week it happened, and in large numbers too: initially, 450 authors, including ten Pulitzer Prize winners, signed “An Open Letter to Our Fellow Americans” opposing “unequivocally, the candidacy of Donald J. Trump for the Presidency of the United States.” The letter was posted here, at Lit Hub, and it has been gathering signatures from colleagues and bookish civilians (over 20,000 to date), who evidently endorse the reasons for the opposition, including a rhetorical (“Because, as writers, we are particularly aware of the many ways that language can be abused in the name of power”) and a philosophical one (“Because the search for justice is predicated on a respect for the truth”), as well as some angry-sounding ones (“Because the rise of a political candidate who deliberately appeals to the basest and most violent elements in society… demands, from each of us, an immediate and forceful response.”)

Fucking A, says I! For I too deplore Trump and everything he and his squirrel-pelt hair stand for.

Yet, I didn’t sign the Letter.

For one thing, if the writers take the American electoral system to be legitimate and legal, the way to oppose Trump’s candidacy is to vote against him—that’s what voting is for. It’s true, as the writers assert, that “the history of dictatorship is the history of manipulation and division, demagoguery and lies,” but Trump is presently abiding by the rules of democratic election, as are his followers, rabid as they may be. It’s also true that “neither wealth nor celebrity qualifies anyone to speak for the United States, to lead its military, to maintain its alliances, or to represent its people.” But what would qualify Trump to speak for the United States is his being elected in the fall. Horrifying as that may seem, that’s how the system works—the election is the job interview. The Open Letter demands that Trump be excluded from the democratic process because he and his words are repellent, because his pelt and short fingers tarnish the comforting picture of American history that “despite periods of nativism and bigotry, has from the first been a grand experiment in bringing people of different backgrounds together.”

It’s questionable, however, that his absence from the electoral process would restore the said picture to its full American glory. Would the writers have written a letter opposing Ted Cruz, an ardent sociopath who at some point in his life must have tortured rodents, and who is just as hateful as Trump, because he would’ve conformed to the accepted practices of American politics? Would Ben Carson, a stranger to reason, comply with the writers’ belief “that any democracy worthy of the name rests on pluralism, welcomes principled disagreement, and achieves consensus through reasoned debate”? What is the threshold of acceptability? Being a professional politician? Being a Democrat? Not having short fingers? Not being Trump?

One could imagine, if with great difficulty, an Open Letter where the writers would be objecting to what made Trump and Trumpism possible, opposing an America that is no longer ethically and morally viable as a communion of equal citizens and has metastasized into a system reproducing inequality while defusing dissent with War on Terror and base entertainment. But one could never imagine a letter where the writers would’ve opposed the disasters of the Bush regime with the same ardor. And not because it’s hard to see how George W. (who glows quaintly in the light of Trump) fits in with the writers’ belief “that knowledge, experience, flexibility, and historical awareness are indispensable in a leader,” but simply because a letter signed by the nation’s literary elite, imploring fellow Americans to oppose Bush’s candidacy/presidency never existed—George W., it appears, could effortlessly squeeze his dumb war-criminal ass into the framework of “a great experiment.”

One has a hard time recalling a novel that has forcefully addressed the iniquities of the post 9/11 era: the lies, the crimes, the torture, the financial collapse, not to mention Americans’ complicity in all those glories, including the fact that Bush had approval ratings reaching the nineties on the eve of the Iraq invasion. If some future historian attempts to determine what occupied the American writers’ minds since the beginning of the millennium by reading all the Pulitzer Prize fiction winners between 2002 and 2016, s/he would find few traces of Bush, or Iraq, or Abu Ghraib, or Cheney, or the financial collapse, or indeed any politics. Apart from The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao, which has some things to say about American exceptionalism, the closest to political engagement a recent Pulitzer winner comes is by way of North Korea, the setting for Adam Johnson’s The Orphan Master’s Son, addressing the outrageous misdeeds of a reassuringly non-American regime.

There is a good case—literary or not—to be made for ideological continuity between the Bushite and the Trumpite America, but exposing that evolution would require a lot of writing, which might interfere with all the open letters re: present calamity that clamor to be written. Perhaps it is indeed better to let the bygones be bygones, and continue “the great experiment,” even if it’s repeatedly plagued by predictably terrible results. If a reality-TV starlet, continuously high on Viagra and racism, is what it takes to get American writers back into politics, let us welcome the development. Perhaps there is an author among the Open Letter signatories eager to develop a narrative in which Trump—or his hairier, more narratively compelling avatar—wouldn’t be the false cause of our discontent but a symbol of an America struggling to forestall its precipitous intellectual and political decline, to which the absence of its literature from its politics must have contributed.


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jefferson wrote: SVe je manje bijelaca u SAD, i mnogi to ne mogu prihvatiti. Ekonomija se mjenjanja, i neke drzave poput Kalifornije, Kolorada, Nevade i slicno su skontale to. Neke drzave (republikanske vukojebine) rezu budzete za obrazovanje i time ne proizvode radnu snagu za novu ekonomiju, pri tome za to kriveci Obamu i demorkate. I onda dodje Trump i kaze: ja cu vratiti poslove, dok svoja odjela sije u Kini.
I na kraju ce Hillary pobjediti, ti bjelci iz Kansasa ce biti sve ljuci ali ce ih biti sve manje.
Nista lakse nego uvjeriti gomilu neobrazovanih ljudi koji svakako ne zaradjuju mnogo da neko drugi nije "zasluzio" pomoc i da ce zajednica gore trositi njihove pare nego oni sami (na satelitsku, na oruzje, na cigarete, alkohol i ostale gluposti). To nije vise pitanje ideoloskih razlika, vec sebicnosti. Iskreno mislim da se radi o razlici izmedju sebicnih ljudi i onih koji to nisu. Znaci hajmo se takmicit (kao politicari) ko ce vise love ostaviti gradjanima, a manje love utrositi na socijalne programe, infrastrukturu, obrazovanje, itd. Nakon nekog vremena to se pocne osjetiti. Treba malo da prodje pa da upravo oni koji su izglasali takve ljude za takve stvari osjete to na svojoj kozi, jer su najcesce oni prvi na udaru. Istovremeno, bogati, sebicni upper-middle class i bogatasi ce sebi zastekati par stotina hiljada viska od neplacanja taksi. Platiti djeci privatnu skolu, privatnog doktora i vozati se lexusima na svoj posao, svakako nikad nisu ni koristili javni prijevoz.

Sve se na kraju moze svesti na to. I mrznja, i rasizam, i sovinizam, sve je proizvod jedne generalne sebicnosti i oholosti ljudi koji su kivni na cijeli svijet jer nisu uspjeli u zivotu.
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Banksy wrote:

ALEKSANDAR HEMON: WHY I DIDN’T SIGN THE OPEN LETTER AGAINST TRUMP

June 1, 2016 By Aleksandar Hemon
http://lithub.com/aleksandar-hemon-why- ... nst-trump/

... Yet, I didn’t sign the Letter.

... But one could never imagine a letter where the writers would’ve opposed the disasters of the Bush regime with the same ardor. And not because it’s hard to see how George W. (who glows quaintly in the light of Trump) fits in with the writers’ belief “that knowledge, experience, flexibility, and historical awareness are indispensable in a leader,” but simply because a letter signed by the nation’s literary elite, imploring fellow Americans to oppose Bush’s candidacy/presidency never existed—George W., it appears, could effortlessly squeeze his dumb war-criminal ass into the framework of “a great experiment.”

One has a hard time recalling a novel that has forcefully addressed the iniquities of the post 9/11 era: the lies, the crimes, the torture, the financial collapse, not to mention Americans’ complicity in all those glories, including the fact that Bush had approval ratings reaching the nineties on the eve of the Iraq invasion. If some future historian attempts to determine what occupied the American writers’ minds since the beginning of the millennium by reading all the Pulitzer Prize fiction winners between 2002 and 2016, s/he would find few traces of Bush, or Iraq, or Abu Ghraib, or Cheney, or the financial collapse, or indeed any politics...

There is a good case—literary or not—to be made for ideological continuity between the Bushite and the Trumpite America, but exposing that evolution would require a lot of writing, which might interfere with all the open letters re: present calamity that clamor to be written
...
Odlicno, briljantno. :thumbup:
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jeza u ledja wrote:
jefferson wrote: SVe je manje bijelaca u SAD, i mnogi to ne mogu prihvatiti. Ekonomija se mjenjanja, i neke drzave poput Kalifornije, Kolorada, Nevade i slicno su skontale to. Neke drzave (republikanske vukojebine) rezu budzete za obrazovanje i time ne proizvode radnu snagu za novu ekonomiju, pri tome za to kriveci Obamu i demorkate. I onda dodje Trump i kaze: ja cu vratiti poslove, dok svoja odjela sije u Kini.
I na kraju ce Hillary pobjediti, ti bjelci iz Kansasa ce biti sve ljuci ali ce ih biti sve manje.
Nista lakse nego uvjeriti gomilu neobrazovanih ljudi koji svakako ne zaradjuju mnogo da neko drugi nije "zasluzio" pomoc i da ce zajednica gore trositi njihove pare nego oni sami (na satelitsku, na oruzje, na cigarete, alkohol i ostale gluposti). To nije vise pitanje ideoloskih razlika, vec sebicnosti. Iskreno mislim da se radi o razlici izmedju sebicnih ljudi i onih koji to nisu. Znaci hajmo se takmicit (kao politicari) ko ce vise love ostaviti gradjanima, a manje love utrositi na socijalne programe, infrastrukturu, obrazovanje, itd. Nakon nekog vremena to se pocne osjetiti. Treba malo da prodje pa da upravo oni koji su izglasali takve ljude za takve stvari osjete to na svojoj kozi, jer su najcesce oni prvi na udaru. Istovremeno, bogati, sebicni upper-middle class i bogatasi ce sebi zastekati par stotina hiljada viska od neplacanja taksi. Platiti djeci privatnu skolu, privatnog doktora i vozati se lexusima na svoj posao, svakako nikad nisu ni koristili javni prijevoz.

Sve se na kraju moze svesti na to. I mrznja, i rasizam, i sovinizam, sve je proizvod jedne generalne sebicnosti i oholosti ljudi koji su kivni na cijeli svijet jer nisu uspjeli u zivotu.
Bravo!!! Apsolutno si pogodio u metu.
Pogotovo kada mi vojska pocne pricati o radu, porezima, a niti placaju poreze, zaposleni su u najsocijalistickoj instituciji u SAD, a 90% ih se prijavilo u vojsku zbog beneficija (10% da bi bilo pilot, neki mornar i tako, oni sto fakat vole ono sto rade). Ostali su tu da se penzionisu nakon 20 godina, imaju besplatnoz dravstveno, pri tome negirajuci to pravo ostalima.
Ali, OK, oni su OK, najgori su oni koji na aerodromu stoje i pljescu vojsci a ne bi centa dali da se VA poboljsa i slicno.
Sto je najgore te republikanske vukojebine su sve jedna zavisna od federalne vlade. Kalifornija, Washington, Kolorado, New York, svi od federalne vlade dobijaju manje od onoga sto uplate kroz takse. Sve republikanske drzave, one "freedom loving," "less federal government," dobijaju vise od federalne vlade nego sto uplate.
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