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Opetja033 wrote:Znaci to je tu negdje sa Isisom.
Ma jok
Samih Francuza ima vise od hiljadu u Daeshu
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#43702 Re: Sirija

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Cak i ISIL ima svoju 'drzavu'.Eee,moji Kurdi... :D
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#43703 Re: Sirija

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insomnia78 wrote:
Opetja033 wrote:Znaci to je tu negdje sa Isisom.
Ma jok
Samih Francuza ima vise od hiljadu u Daeshu
Ma zajebajem se, podjebajem @Kikija. Sa ovim psihopatama ne moze niko da se poredi. Oni su bas sav bjelosvjetski olos skupili na jednom mjestu.
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#43704 Re: Sirija

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:lol:
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#43705 Re: Sirija

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Kikibombona wrote:
insomnia78 wrote: :thumbup:
Naravno, ne racunam na dobrovoljce iz Turske, Irana i Iraka. :D

To je vec nesto drugo, njih ima na hiljade.... :D

Iznanadio sam se vidjevsi koliko u Kobaniju ima Kurda iz Irana. :shock: :-)
kad si to bio u Kobaniju
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#43706 Re: Sirija

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Co0l wrote:Cak i ISIL ima svoju 'drzavu'.Eee,moji Kurdi... :D
Cuj drzavu?

Islamski hilafet! :D

Drzava u nastanku....

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#43707 Re: Sirija

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RepublikanskaGarda wrote:Šta su bili Rusi na srpskoj strani, njemci/nizozemci/irci/poljaci/francuzi(nazi ekipa) na hrvatskoj strani, ili muđahedini na bošnjačkoj?

kao i ovi dobrovoljci u kurdskim redovima to je bila ekipa željna krvi i besplatne pucnjave, u Hezbollah nitko ne ide jer je u njihovim državama pristupanje terorističkoj organizaciji kažnjivo djelo, sve ostalo bu basne i bajke
:thumbup: +1

Sve priće tipa "mi smo humanitarci" samo adrenalinsko dijete od 10 godina može povjerovat.
Imaš bezbroj aktivista, reportera, humanitaraca (crveni krst itd) koji rade u Siriji i pomažu narodu koliko god mogu, ako ne materijalno onda moralno, govore u njihovo ime.
Poserem se na sve ove Call of Duty ratnike, željni ljudi head shotova, selfija, uniformi ... sekunde mi nije žao kad poginu pa makar ih Angela Merkel dala pečat
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#43708 Re: Sirija

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RepublikanskaGarda wrote:
kad si to bio u Kobaniju
Ne mogu da nadjem video, izgubih 10 minuta bezveze! :evil:

Uglavnom, ima ih jako puno, na tom videu su se predstavili....

A evo i ovaj video koji svakako vrijedi pogledati, dosta zanimljiv.... I tu su predstavljeni neki borci iz Irana, a snimatelj je rakao 'danas sam upoznao dosta boraca iz Irana', na sto mu je pripadnica YPJ odgovorila 'da, ima ih dosta'... Ovo pisem po sjecanju, ranije sam odgledao video, a inace imam jako dobru memoriju. :D

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#43709 Re: Sirija

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DuckZz wrote: :thumbup: +1

Sve priće tipa "mi smo humanitarci" samo adrenalinsko dijete od 10 godina može povjerovat.
Imaš bezbroj aktivista, reportera, humanitaraca (crveni krst itd) koji rade u Siriji i pomažu narodu koliko god mogu, ako ne materijalno onda moralno, govore u njihovo ime.
Poserem se na sve ove Call of Duty ratnike, željni ljudi head shotova, selfija, uniformi ... sekunde mi nije žao kad poginu pa makar ih Angela Merkel dala pečat
Ne mozes tako generalizovati!

Recimo, nista od navedenog nije motivacija vecini ISIL dobrovoljaca. Njima je prvenstveni motiv borba za islam, za muslimane, za serijat. Mnogi su se raznijeli u samoubilackim akcijama sto jasno pokazuje da se nisu dosli zajebavati, da to nije nikakav hir....... I na kraju, oni stvar percipiraju na nacin da je duznost muslimana da se odazove na dzihadski poziv.

Dakle, nista od navedenog nije motiv, u 99.9& slucajeva, makar kada je ISIL u pitanju.
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#43710 Re: Sirija

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Kikibombona wrote:
DuckZz wrote: :thumbup: +1

Sve priće tipa "mi smo humanitarci" samo adrenalinsko dijete od 10 godina može povjerovat.
Imaš bezbroj aktivista, reportera, humanitaraca (crveni krst itd) koji rade u Siriji i pomažu narodu koliko god mogu, ako ne materijalno onda moralno, govore u njihovo ime.
Poserem se na sve ove Call of Duty ratnike, željni ljudi head shotova, selfija, uniformi ... sekunde mi nije žao kad poginu pa makar ih Angela Merkel dala pečat
Ne mozes tako generalizovati!

Recimo, nista od navedenog nije motivacija vecini ISIL dobrovoljaca. Njima je prvenstveni motiv borba za islam, za muslimane, za serijat. Mnogi su se raznijeli u samoubilackim akcijama sto jasno pokazuje da se nisu dosli zajebavati, da to nije nikakav hir....... I na kraju, oni stvar percipiraju na nacin da je duznost muslimana da se odazove na dzihadski poziv.

Dakle, nista od navedenog nije motiv, u 99.9& slucajeva, makar kada je ISIL u pitanju.
Pa eto,ispade da bradonje imaju plemenitiji motiv od ovih kurdskih bjelosvjetskih hohstapera :D
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#43711 Re: Sirija

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Co0l wrote: Pa eto,ispade da bradonje imaju plemenitiji motiv od ovih kurdskih bjelosvjetskih hohstapera :D
Pa i Hitler je za nekoga bio plemnit. I na klixovim komentarima bude likova koji zale radi nekih neostvarenih plemenitih zamisli Adolfa Hitlera.

Mozda je za tebe ISILov motiv plemenit, ne znam....

Samo hocu reci da se nisu dosli zajebavati kao sto Patak sugerise!
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#43712 Re: Sirija

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Ne želim da oponiram po svaku cijenu Kiki, ali još na staroj temi sam postavljao zapadne izvore koji prenose priču o momcima iz Alepa, rebelima, koji su digli ruke od "revolucije" i otišli put Turske... Njihova svjedočenja su porazna po ISIL-ovce i druge radikalne skupine. Ako se sjećaš: "kažu Allahu ekber i otmu automobil, kažu Allahu ekber i otmu tuđu ženu, kažu Allahu ekber i otmu tuđu kuću..."

Ima tu dosta razbojničkog elementa.
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#43713 Re: Sirija

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Kako je krenulo Hezbolah bi mogao dokrajciti Nusru na Kalamunu veoma brzo....

http://dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-Ne ... syria.ashx

Why Qalamoun matters for Hezbollah

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/1 ... 09867.html
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#43714 Re: Sirija

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Kad se ocekuje kraj ratu ili se ubijanje nastavlja. Ko dobija a ko gubi u konacnici? Da li ce obnova biti brza ili spora. Koliko ce zivota biti unisteno zbog idjeje ciju realizaciju mocnici nece dozvoliti da se ostvari. Sve je dobro dok se muslimani medjusobno ubijaju. Da li je to i osnovni cilj drzave u nastanku?
Ko ih finasira, ko im daje logisticku podrsku. Bez toga ne bi mogli opstati. Sumnjiva rabota?
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#43715 Re: Sirija

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Kikibombona wrote:
Co0l wrote: Pa eto,ispade da bradonje imaju plemenitiji motiv od ovih kurdskih bjelosvjetskih hohstapera :D
Pa i Hitler je za nekoga bio plemnit. I na klixovim komentarima bude likova koji zale radi nekih neostvarenih plemenitih zamisli Adolfa Hitlera.

Mozda je za tebe ISILov motiv plemenit, ne znam....

Samo hocu reci da se nisu dosli zajebavati kao sto Patak sugerise!
Onako kako si ti opisao njihove motive ispadaju plemeniti,pogotovo u odnosu na ove pse rata koji pristupaju kurdskim jedinicama.
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Co0l wrote:
Kikibombona wrote:
Co0l wrote: Pa eto,ispade da bradonje imaju plemenitiji motiv od ovih kurdskih bjelosvjetskih hohstapera :D
Pa i Hitler je za nekoga bio plemnit. I na klixovim komentarima bude likova koji zale radi nekih neostvarenih plemenitih zamisli Adolfa Hitlera.

Mozda je za tebe ISILov motiv plemenit, ne znam....

Samo hocu reci da se nisu dosli zajebavati kao sto Patak sugerise!
Onako kako si ti opisao njihove motive ispadaju plemeniti,pogotovo u odnosu na ove pse rata koji pristupaju kurdskim jedinicama.
Dovoljno je vidjeti odrubljene glave i nema vece plemenitosti od ljudskog zivota. Ukazati postovanje prema neprijatelju bez obzira ko je i fer borba a ne zarobiti pa onda biti faca sjeci glave dok sa vezanim rukama na ledjima.

ISIL nema veze sa vjerom nego ih treba sve istrijebiti da vise nikada nikome ne dodje u glavu ovakva ideja a Hesbollah samo koristio situaciju koju strategiju Iran igra gdje god da dodjete pa je pokusao i u Bosni ali nije im proslo kako su na vrijeme uhvaceni.

Duze vremena pratim ovu temu i pokusavam da se drzim i ne komentarisem ali sada je preslo svaku mjeru.

Samo cu reci ko podrzaje ISIL treba ga dozivotno u zatvor strpati.
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#43717 Re: Sirija

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dječak sa šibicama wrote:Kad bi CNN, BBC, DW i ostale tv kuce, samo par priloga i emisija napravili o Hezbollahu, malo slika Hezbollaha u Malouli, malo snimaka kako spasavaju Biblije i svecenike, malo ovo malo ono, i letili bi dobrovoljci.

Ali kako je Hezbollah neprijatelj sefova CNN-a, BBC-a i inih medija, naravno da takvo nesto nikada necemo vidjeti.

Uostalom, Hezbollah je jedini ozbiljni neprijatelj Izraelu, a kako Zidovi uglavnom drze medije... dva i dva su uvijek bili 4.

:thumbup:


Doduše, ne mrze ni svi Židovi Hezbollah...

:mrgreen:


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#43718 Re: Sirija

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besmislica.hezobla je napao izraelske vojnike,naravno da je slijedila odmazda,naravno da ovim klipom iran i hezbola zajedno nisu i nece porazit izrael,naravno da im treba malo propagande...
jes dobili su rat,ko sta ga i sad dobijaju u siriji..
ej moji...
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#43719 Re: Sirija

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:thumbup: Sta reci nego - Norman Finkelstein! :kiss: U "vozanju" cionistickih mass media pandam velikom Georgu Gallowayu :mrgreen:
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#43720 Re: Sirija

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dobar covjek,voli ljude,svejedno,nema hezbola od tog nikakve koristi,kad krvari u siriji..
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#43721 Re: Sirija

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Usporedba Hezbolaha i YPG-a i prisustvo stranih dobrovoljaca u istima je nemoguća misija, to su dvije potpuno različite organizacije.

Što znači „plačenićka vojska“, vojska čiji je osnovni motiv novac, Hezbolah to sigurno nije, pa svaki profesionalni vojnik u svim vojskama prima plaću, od čega da živi?
Hezbolah je „tvrdo zatvorena“ i razvijena organizacija sa dugogodišnjom izgrađenom infrastrukturom i vezama sa isto takovim strukturama u Siriji i Iranu.

Zaista mi je nezamislivo prisustvo zapadnih dobrovoljaca (pogotovo većeg broja) u tako ustrojenoj organizaciji gdje se ništa ne prepušta slučaju. Upravo ta zatvorenost i sigurnosna provjera je glavna snaga Hezbolaha tako da ni Mosad i druge obavještajne agencije to ne mogu probit (efikasno).

Ne znam odakle ovakova odbojnost prema Kurdima i onima koji te iste Kurde podržavaju od pojedinih forumaša, kada su oni jedina kakva takva pozitiva u ovom krvavom ratu, posebno to mislim na sirijske Kurde.
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pjerino wrote:Usporedba Hezbolaha i YPG-a i prisustvo stranih dobrovoljaca u istima je nemoguća misija, to su dvije potpuno različite organizacije.
Naravno da usporedb ne stoji. Jer su prvi teroristicka organizacija ciji nijedan clan nema sta da trazi u Siriji obzirom da nije njihova drzava. U YPG-u su ipak sirijski Kurdi uz nesto stranih dobrovoljaca. Hizbullat je puno veca opasnost po buducnost Sirije nego YPG. Njihovi teroristi su zapravo izvrsili invaziju na Siriju i sirijski narod. YPG se samo brani.

Ali i dobijaju po picci, zato sada regrutuju i golobradu djecu doline Baaka. Spustaju kriterije da bi popunili sve rjedje redove. Bilo bi interesantno vidjeti cifre ali mislim da ih je izginulo vise u ovom ratu nego u svim sukobima sa Izraelom od nastanka te teroristicke organizacije pa do sada. Sektaska teroristicka skupina, ni manje ni vise od toga.
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#43723 Re: Sirija

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Opetja033 wrote: Hizbullat je puno veca opasnost po buducnost Sirije nego YPG. Njihovi teroristi su zapravo izvrsili invaziju na Siriju i sirijski narod.



A Turska - naša majka ? To ništa ? :mrgreen:

Opetja033 wrote:Ali i dobijaju po picci

Ko dobija po spolnom organu, to vidimo ovih dana, a i prije. I dan danas bole rane Qusaira...

Opetja033 wrote:Sektaska teroristicka skupina, ni manje ni vise od toga.

A nisu ni muslimani. Rek'o muftija, i to saudijski. :evil:


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Odlicna reportaza Spiegela o afganistanskim placenicima (Hazare) u Siriji. O prisilnoj regrutaciji medju hazarskim izbjeglicama u Iranu, o rasizmu u Iranu, o cinjenici da Hazare radije zele ostati u zarobljenistvu pobunjenika nego da ih ovi razmjene sa Assadovim lojalistima - obzirom da bi se opet morali boriti za njega, o iranskim oficirima koji im naredjuju da se bore do smrti, o 700 mrtvih Hazara samo u Halepu i Dari, o cinjenici da Assad ne zeli da ih razmjeni, o odnosu visokorangiranih rezimskih oficira (recimo Tigra) prema ovim jadnicima procitati zadnji dio. Takodje se spominje i namjerno, selektivno bombardovanje skola u Halepu od strane rezima. To je ono o cemu je i Amnesty International pisao. Vrlo dobro reportaza koja pokazuju okrutnost onih koji bi zavalili i milione ljudi samo da ostanu na vlasti.
SPIEGEL: The Afghans Fighting Assad's War

His war only lasted from one dawn to the next. When the sun rose for the second time over the Syrian city of Aleppo, Murad, a farmer from Afghanistan, was still cowering on the second floor of the house he was supposed to defend to the death. That, at least, is what his Iranian officer had ordered him to do.

How, though, did he get to this war-torn city far away from his village in the mountains of Afghanistan? All he had wanted was an Iranian residence permit, he says. But at the end of his trip, he found himself fighting as a mercenary in the Syrian civil war on the side of the Bashar Assad regime.
On that morning in Aleppo, Murad didn't know how many from his unit were still alive, nor did he know where he was or who he was fighting against. His four magazines had been empty for hours. When a violent explosion caused the house he was in to collapse, he found himself thinking about his daughters, he says. "I screamed and thought I was suffocating. And then, everything around me was quiet."

Men arrived and pulled Murad, who was still screaming, out of the rubble. He was lucky, even if he didn't see it that way at first. "I thought they would kill me immediately. But they bandaged me up and took me to their quarters. There was someone there who spoke a bit of Persian and he told me I didn't need to be afraid."

That was seven months ago. Since then, Murad and another Afghan have been sitting in a makeshift prison belonging to the "Damascus Front," one of Aleppo's larger rebel formations. They are being held in a neon-lit basement, next to a roaring generator. The walls are crumbling, a product of the myriad explosions that have shaken the city. In addition to Afghans, Pakistanis and Iranians have also been taken prisoner by other rebel groups, all of them fighting on the front lines.

The war in the northern-Syrian city of Aleppo -- but also around both Hama and Damascus and down to Deraa in the south -- has taken on an Afghan face. Or, to be more precise, a face with distinctly Asian features. Many of those Afghans that have been sent into battle come from the Hazara, a Shiite minority that are the poorest of the poor in Afghanistan.

Running Out of Soldiers

The Assad family dictatorship is running out of soldiers and is becoming increasingly reliant on mercenaries. Indeed, from the very beginning the Assad regime had an opponent that it could never really defeat: Syria's demography.

In order to prevent the collapse of Syrian government forces, experienced units from the Lebanese militia Hezbollah began fighting for Assad as early as 2012. Later, they were joined by Iranians, Iraqis, Pakistanis and Yemenis -- Shiites from all over, on which the regime is increasingly dependent. But the longer the war continues without victory, the more difficult it has become for Assad's allies to justify the growing body count. In 2013, for example, Hezbollah lost 130 fighters as it captured the city of Qusair and has lost many more than that trying to hold on to it. Indeed, Hezbollah has begun writing "traffic accident" as the cause of death on death certificates of its fighters who fall in Syria.

The Iraqis have almost all returned home. Rather than fighting themselves, they largely control the operations from the background. The Iraqi militia Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq, for example, organizes the deployment of Pakistani volunteers in Syria. But no ethnic group is represented on all of the regime's fronts to the degree that the Afghan Hazara are. Exact numbers are hard to come by, but some 700 of them are thought to have lost their lives in Aleppo and Daraa alone. What's worse, most of them don't come completely on their own free will.

Up to 2 million Hazara live in Iran, most of them as illegal immigrants. It is an inexhaustible reservoir of the desperate, from which the Pasdars -- as Iran's Revolutionary Guards are called -- have recruited thousands for the war in Syria over the last year and a half.


Forty-five year old Murad Ali Hamidi, the man who is now sitting in the Aleppo prison, was previously a farmer in the northern Afghanistan village of Chaharzad Khane, or "400 houses". He had a small field measuring 50 meters by 50 meters (27,000 square feet), but there was no electricity, running water or school. He fled to Iran without valid travel documents and worked illegally in a rock quarry -- until he was arrested in Septmeber 2013. "They accused me of selling drugs, but that isn't true," he says. For 15 days, he says, he was whipped with heavy cables and beaten.

A circular scar on his back would seem to provide evidence for his story that he was also burned with a cigarette. "They are racist in Iran. They don't want us only because we are Afghans. Hardly any of us received refugee papers." Such credentials would have allowed him to at least send his children to school and to receive some food.

'Suddenly, There Were Raids'

Murad claims he was sentenced to six years in prison. After serving the first year in notorious Evin Prison in Tehran, he received an unexpected visit from a visitor wearing the green uniform of the Pasdars. "Why are you here?" the man asked.

"Drugs," Murad replied.

"Do you want to have the final five years of your sentence commuted?"

Murad didn't say no. He would have to join the war in Syria for two months, the officer told him, saying that he would only be given simple tasks and guard duty. When he returned, the officer promised, he may even receive a residency permit. The other Afghans in his cell also agreed to trade in the rest of their sentences for two months of service in Syria. They were promised a monthly salary of 2 million toman, the equivalent of $700.

Said Ahmed Hussein, who is being held with Murad, mentioned the same sum. Hussein had spent years working in construction in an exclusive residential district in northern Tehran. "Suddenly, there were raids and I was one of 150 illegal immigrants arrested. All of us were Hazara. Then, the Pasars came and promised us money and residence permits if we would voluntarily go to Syria. But they said 'we're sending you there no matter what.' Everybody signed up."

From prison, they were sent to different military bases near Tehran for Kalashnikov training. "The trainer told us we would be fighting terrorists in Syria," Murad says. Dressed in civilian clothes, they were taken by bus to Tehran's Imam Khomeini Airport for the flight, in a passenger plane, to Damascus. "There were even families on board. Nobody was supposed to see that we were soldiers," Murad relates.

Two Iranian officers welcomed them upon arrival in Damascus and they were given tea. They then traveled further, to the coastal city of Latakia, and then by bus to a military base on the outskirts of Aleppo, where they stayed for 10 days. "Here, the Iranians weren't so friendly anymore, much less the Syrian soldiers who looked after us. When we spoke Persian to each other, they yelled at us."

One evening, weapons and uniforms were distributed and they were driven in cars to a collection point for some 300 men from Afghanistan. "We began walking, the whole night, until three or four in the morning. Then they pointed into the darkness at a multi-storied building and ordered a dozen of us to storm it and to hold it at all costs! They kept telling us that we couldn't surrender because the terrorists would cut off our heads," he says. "Don't surrender, don't surrender," he keeps repeating, like a mantra.

'Incredibly Tenacious'

Two rebel commanders who likewise took part in the battle, but on the other side, say that the Afghans were like machines. "They are incredibly tenacious, run faster than we do and keep shooting even after they have been surrounded. But as soon as they lose radio contact with headquarters, they panic."

"All of us were afraid," Murad says. "I asked myself, what am I doing here? This isn't my country." When the interpreter asks him why he allowed himself to get into such a situation in the first place, Murad became angry for the only time during our discussion. "Fifty meters by 50 meters of poor soil! How are five people supposed to live off of that?!" He wearily raises his hands and continues telling his story: "We started running. Luckily, the building was empty and we spread out among the different floors. We came under fire and didn't even notice that, aside from us, no one else was there. Inside the house was an Iranian officer who yelled at me: 'You have to fight or I'll kill you!' I fired off all my ammunition without looking where I was shooting."

Abu Hassanain, one of the two rebel commanders involved in the fight that night, recalls: "It made absolutely no sense for them to keep fighting. But they didn't surrender. So we blew up the entire building." That was the explosion that buried Murad and Said, the only two from the original group that survived.

Now, they are prisoners in a city that is more dangerous than any prison and are at risk everyday of being blown apart by a barrel bomb dropped by the army they came to fight for. The bombs, too, show just how desperate the regime -- which has suffered significant military defeats in recent weeks -- has become. Every morning between 8 a.m. and 9 a.m. is "barrel time" in eastern Aleppo. That is when most of the barrel bombs, which are now produced in industrial quantities, are rolled out of military helicopters, tumble to the ground and destroy everything within two dozen meters.

"Come after nine," the man responsible for the Afghan prisoners recommends. It's Sunday, May 3, shortly before the SPIEGEL team in Aleppo is to head out to the rebel prison, when we hear a massive detonation in the neighboring quarter of Saif al-Daula. On the way to our meeting with the prisoners, we keep seeing people with horrified looks on their faces, some with tears in their eyes, as they walk towards Saif al-Daula. It seems surprising at first. Most barrel bombs only hit empty ruins, and even if there are casualties, people here normally don't run through the streets. Death comes quickly in Aleppo and the stoic resistance of the last 100,000 residents who have remained behind is expressed in their refusal to leave.

Beyond Hope and Desperation

But this bomb, dropped shortly before 9 a.m., scored a direct hit on the only school in the quarter, a four-story building that has been turned into a rubble-filled crater. The remains of the floors hang into the crater like gigantic rags. Sunday, was exam day, the only day on which schoolchildren still gather together. It is the same day that exams take place in the western part of the city as well, which is under regime control. It is almost certain that the pilots knew what they were doing.

At least six children and a teacher were killed instantly, with doctors unsure if several other children will survive. Late that afternoon, a man on a motorcycle stops next to the rubble and asks those still digging whether they had found his daughter. He says he has gone to every hospital in the city and visited every morgue, but hasn't been able to find her. He is met by silent head shaking. "My daughter," he sighs with a tone beyond hope and desperation -- and drives off.


As though their fates were momentarily intertwined, Murad, the Afghan, had said the same thing in almost the exact same tone a short time earlier: "My daughters." They haven't heard anything from their father in more than two years. He doesn't have any brothers in the village and his parents are dead. Only his mother-in-law is still alive, but she too is bitterly poor. "Who is taking care of my family? Do they have enough to eat, do they have clothes, did they get through the winter?"

He says that his fate is not in God's hands. Using an imam and the Red Crescent as intermediaries, the rebels from the Damascus Front have tried to exchange him and other Afghans for their own men being held in regime prisons. That, though, is not cause for hope for Murad. Rather, he thinks it would just be another type of horror. "What do I do if they give me back to the Syrian army? They'll just put me right back into one of their suicide commandos like last time. I don't want to do that again. I want to go back to Afghanistan." Back to the misery that he once tried to escape.

But in Afghanistan, the government doesn't seem particularly interested in the disappearance of thousands of its citizens into the Syrian war. "The Ministry of Foreign Affairs does not have any official document about Afghans being forced to go to Syria from Afghanistan or Iran," said spokesman Shikib Mustaghni. "The documents which are to be found on the Internet are not reliable." Of course, the spokesman added, "The government of Afghanistan seriously follows the matters of Afghan fighters in Syria and tries to save their lives."
For the moment, it doesn't look like there will be a prisoner exchange, says Sheikh Abdulqader Falas, who is leading the negotiations. "In the past, we have exchanged Syrian officers, and the regime is particularly willing to release prisoners in exchange for Iranians and Hezbollah fighters. But for the Afghans, nothing. We have contacted the International Committee of the Red Cross, but again, nothing. Those two will likely stay with us until the end of the war.

A rebel commander from Aleppo, who is leading negotiations for six other Afghans, at least managed to reach one of the most powerful Syrian officers on the telephone: Colonel Suhail al-Hassan, called Nimr, or tiger, by his supporters. The colonel's answer was succinct: "Do what you want with them. You can kill them, they're just mercenaries. We can send you thousands of them."
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#43725 Re: Sirija

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Opetja se opet oduzeo. :D

Kaze teroristi, a sta Turska, Saudija, Katar, Jordan i cijeli svijet salje? Desetine hiljada "Sirijaca" jel? :izet: ;-) Svrsava kada Nusra (al Kaida) pogodi tenk, a ovamo Hezbollahu spocitava neki terorizam. Moras dobro zaglibiti da to izjavis. Dvolicnjak.
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