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Kikibombona wrote:
Challenger__ wrote:
Egypt to remove books of Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Baz and Ibn Uthaymeen from all mosques

The Egyptian Ministry of Religious Endowments have launched a campaign to remove the books of scholars that belong to the Salafi movement from all mosques in Egypt.
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Cekaj, zar nije Sisi sluga selefija? :D

Sta kazu ihvanije sa teme, Egitom ce vladati Nur stranka... :lala: :pisnuo: :pisnuo:
E moj Kiki, fino sam ti rekao - mic po mic, malo po malo. Da mi je tvoj mozak koji FANTASTIČNO JEDNOSMJERNO RAZMIŠLJA I SAGLEDAVA STANJE, da se odmorim. Lupaš i uzalud se raduješ ili šta već. Inače, bez obzira na sve, stvarno moram to reći da si mi jako drag kao forumaš, ovo bez trunke sarkazma, stvarno najiskrenije. Valjda me osvaja ta tvoja simpatična naiva. Eto, vjerujem da je to i da nije cinizam. :kiss:

Nur stranka upravo radi ono što ja kažem kada se obraćam Čeliju da mudri rade kada ne mogu pobijediti protivnika, a to je da se infiltriraju i razjedaju iznutra. Proces koji traje, ako treba i 20 i više godina, ali garantuje uspješan rezultat!

Saudija, za razliku od Turske, je naravno bolje shvatila oportunistički i ljigavština, onako narodski, vulgaran (što ne mora ubijek biti negativno) mentalitet običnog Egipćanina, pa je pustila da Ihvanije dobiju izbore, znajući da nikada neće ni stupiti na vlast, te da će ih se zbaciti s te "vlasti" koju nikada de fakto i de jure nisu ni zauzeli. Greška Turske je što je mislila da je narod Egipta malo manji "suncokret," nego što jeste. Kad su Turci jedno 15 puta principjelniji. Doduše, ihvanije bi svakako i samoj Turskoj bile teret, jer su fakat preveliki romantičari i nisu spremni na perfidluk kao AKP. Jesu, jesu, romantičari daleko veći i od tebe i tvog romantičarenja Kiki. :mrgreen:

Evo ti dva članka koji zorno prikazuju kako se to radi pametno i na duge staze, prožimajući i puštajući pipke u različite i malte ne sve moguće sfere društva:

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/poli ... -terrorism

A ovaj mi je baš izmamio GROMOGLASAN SMIJEH:

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origina ... party.html

A onda, kada dođe pravo vrijeme - transmogrifikacija, ako se mora i ako je društvo puno zglajzalo ulijevo. Eee moj Kiki, eee.
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Kikibombona wrote:
Challenger__ wrote:
Egypt to remove books of Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Baz and Ibn Uthaymeen from all mosques

The Egyptian Ministry of Religious Endowments have launched a campaign to remove the books of scholars that belong to the Salafi movement from all mosques in Egypt.
:arrow: LINK
Cekaj, zar nije Sisi sluga selefija? :D

Sta kazu ihvanije sa teme, Egitom ce vladati Nur stranka... :lala: :pisnuo: :pisnuo:
Jebe se zaljevskim sponzorima sta Sisonja radi u Egiptu sve dok ispunjava svoj dio pogodbe.
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Arab leaders such as Egypt’s Abdel-Fattah al-Sisi are keen to woo Chinese investors. They need cash to fix their crumbling roads and dilapidated ports. Mr Sisi and almost every other Arab head of state have visited Beijing since 2012. Chinese firms are building Tehran’s metro, two harbours in Egypt and a high-speed railway between Saudi Arabia’s holy cities of Mecca and Medina. Factories in a Chinese-run special economic zone at the Suez Canal churn out plastics, carpets and clothing. On June 15th Egypt and China signed an agreement for $10 billion-worth of new projects.
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U jutrošnjem atentatu automobilom bombom smrtno ranjen državni tužilac ...
Na slikama sa mjesta atentata nema od auta-bombe tek par metalnih ostataka ...

Definitivno atentatori postaju ozbiljan problem za Al-Sisijev režim ...
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Sisonja,garant mira i stabilnosti.
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kazu 40ak (neki cak 50ak) mrtvih vojnika u napadima na Sinaju
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Više od 80 poginulih egipatskih vojnika u napadu na Sinaju!

Napad je počeo u 06:00 ujutro, a napadnuto je više od 15 policijskih stanica i vojnih baza.Vojska je zatvorila prelaz Refah, a u gradu su raspoređene egipatske vojne formacije kao i duž cijele granice, na ulicama trenutno nema nikoga.
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#4058 Re: Egipat (pročitati prvi post)

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Co0l wrote:Sisonja,garant mira i stabilnosti.

Sisonja vodi Egipat u rat za koji će sirijski biti mala maca. Nikad Egipat nije bio bliže ratu nego sto je danas. Mislim, i za daleko normalnije osobe od Sisonje monstruma Egipat bi bio izazov i pravo čudo sačuvati mir. Sisonja monstrum i ubica je prava osoba ali za ulogu okorjelog diktatora koji može samo ubrzati negativne procese u Egiptu
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Egipatske snage sigurnosti likvidirale 9 lidera Muslimanskog bratstva u stanu u naselju 6 Oktobar, među ihvanijama koji su ubijeni je i bivši egipatski parlamentarac Nasir el-Hafi
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sarajevoxxxx wrote:Egipatske snage sigurnosti likvidirale 9 lidera Muslimanskog bratstva u stanu u naselju 6 Oktobar, među ihvanijama koji su ubijeni je i bivši egipatski parlamentarac Nasir el-Hafi
Znači bez suđenja, bez istrage, pripadnici egipatskih snaga sigurnosti upali u stan i likvidirali 9 članova Muslimanskog bratstva koji su bili u komisiji za pomoć porodicama šehida.
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Muslimansko bratstvo:
- Smatramo svijet odgovornim za pravac kojim ide egipatska država pod vodstvom Sisija.
- Vodstvo Muslimanske braće prije nego što je likvidirano nije pružalo nikakav otpor niti je bilo razmjene vatre
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mintal wrote:Zestoki sukobi ISIL militanata i egipatske vojske
Death toll rises to 64 among the Egyptian military forces in North Sinai
Trenutak kada vozilo bomba eksplodira na egipatskom vojnom punktu




Nort Sinai: Location of Sheikh Zuweid where clashes with ISIS fighters are continuing.
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To ISIL upada na Sinaj iz svoje matične države (Izrael)?
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A dusa slatka,vidi sto ono pokusava biti duhovito :D
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mintal wrote:ISIL se na Sinaju proveo ko bos po trnju
Egyptian Army: at least 100 terrorists were killed during today's attack on Sinai
18+

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI2rd_7UMAA5AZP.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI2reAtUYAEq-gV.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI2rd3OUwAAOY_9.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI2rd3tUAAAwTec.jpg
Čekaj paša, jesi li siguran da su ovo prave fotografije sa Sinaja? Kakve su ovo uniforme ISIL-a?
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sarajevoxxxx wrote:
Co0l wrote:Sisonja,garant mira i stabilnosti.

Sisonja vodi Egipat u rat za koji će sirijski biti mala maca. Nikad Egipat nije bio bliže ratu nego sto je danas. Mislim, i za daleko normalnije osobe od Sisonje monstruma Egipat bi bio izazov i pravo čudo sačuvati mir. Sisonja monstrum i ubica je prava osoba ali za ulogu okorjelog diktatora koji može samo ubrzati negativne procese u Egiptu
Jel to imamo potencijalnog zločinca, većeg od najvećeg?
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zrakomlat wrote:
sarajevoxxxx wrote:
Co0l wrote:Sisonja,garant mira i stabilnosti.

Sisonja vodi Egipat u rat za koji će sirijski biti mala maca. Nikad Egipat nije bio bliže ratu nego sto je danas. Mislim, i za daleko normalnije osobe od Sisonje monstruma Egipat bi bio izazov i pravo čudo sačuvati mir. Sisonja monstrum i ubica je prava osoba ali za ulogu okorjelog diktatora koji može samo ubrzati negativne procese u Egiptu
Jel to imamo potencijalnog zločinca, većeg od najvećeg?
Ova dešavanja u Egiptu zorno pokazuju da se sirijski rat nije mogao izbjeći.Sve što Sisi sada radi već je viđeno u Siriji u martu 2011.Koga zanima kako je počeo rat u Siriji evo mu prilike da gleda reprizu u Egiptu, sve se isto u bobu dešava.U kojoj to još državi ima da vlast opkoli kuću i likvidira nenaoružane političke aktiviste, bivše parlamentarce, koji nisu pružali nikakav otpor.Oni tj. vojna hunta, su toliko ogrezli u zlu da seviše nisu u stanju da kontrolišu ili čak da pravdaju svoje postupke, sve je dozvoljeno, sve će raditi, a licemjeri iz međunarodne zajednice će im stavljati crveni tepih i umjesto da ih tretiraju kao ubice i monstrume, tapšat ih po ramenu i na svako ubijanje demonstranata ili političkih protivnika ili na barel-bombu vrisnuti bravo Sisi ili bravo Asade svaka čast!
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mintal wrote:
Pro rebelski izvori potvrdjuju da su slike sa Sinaja i tvrde da su medju ubijenim i civili. Na osnovu toga smatram da su slike autenticne.

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U ovih par rečenica na slici se demantuje da se radi o pripadnicima isila na Sinaju.
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sarajevoxxxx wrote:
mintal wrote:
Pro rebelski izvori potvrdjuju da su slike sa Sinaja i tvrde da su medju ubijenim i civili. Na osnovu toga smatram da su slike autenticne.
U ovih par rečenica na slici se demantuje da se radi o pripadnicima isila na Sinaju.
Prevedi ako ti nije mrsko.
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zrakomlat wrote:
sarajevoxxxx wrote:
mintal wrote:
Pro rebelski izvori potvrdjuju da su slike sa Sinaja i tvrde da su medju ubijenim i civili. Na osnovu toga smatram da su slike autenticne.

U ovih par rečenica na slici se demantuje da se radi o pripadnicima isila na Sinaju.
Prevedi ako ti nije mrsko.
''Egipatska vojska nakon teškog poraza objavila slike civila koji su poginuli nakon bombardovanja avijacije, kojima su prethodno obukli vojne uniforme i pokrili lica i predstavili ih kao tijela pripadnika isila''
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:thumbup: fala
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U toku žestoka razmjena vatre u gradu Samaloot između snaga sigurnosti i nepoznatih lica.
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Trenutno se vode ulične borbe u gradu Sheikh Zuweid, snažne eksplozije odjekuju gradom.
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Sisi is pushing Egypt to the brink


Tuesday 30 June 2015 23:05 UTC

Sisi has yet to make his biggest mistake, which would be to carry out the death sentence on Morsi
Abdel Fattah al-Sisi on Tuesday gave the clearest indication so far that he intends to hang the democratically elected president whose power he usurped. Railing against the inability of the state to deal with the militant insurgency he himself stoked, Sisi pledged legislation to allow his courts to dispense summary justice:

"The arm of justice is chained by the law. We're not going to wait for this. We're going to amend the law to allow us to implement justice as soon as possible ... Do courts in these circumstances work? Do these laws work? They work with normal people ... If there is a death sentence, a death sentence will be implemented ... the law! the law!"

Two years on from the coup which toppled him, Mohamed Morsi and 105 others, including 15 senior figures of the Muslim Brotherhood, are under the sentence of death. Sisi presides over a state which is failing before our eyes. Under his rule, Egypt is on a steep downward spiral of ever more ruthless repression which now includes Sri Lankan style "disappearances" and an increasingly active insurgency. If Sisi carries out his threat, the explosion in Egypt, a country of 90 million, half of them below the poverty line, will make Syria, Iraq and Libya seem insignificant in comparison.

No group has claimed responsibility for the assassination of Egypt's top prosecutor Hisham Barakat in a car bomb on Monday. But his death marks a blow to the authority of the regime he represented. Not since the speaker of the Egyptian parliament Rifaat al-Mahgoub was gunned down in 1990 has there been a killing of an official so prominent in the Egyptian state.

If the judiciary played an integral part in repression, Barakat was its human face. He was the man who signed the arrest warrants for over 40,000 people. He gave legal cover to the Ministry of Interior and army troops who massacred over 1,000 protesters in one day in the centre of Cairo in August 2013. He pushed for, and secured, mass death sentences. He also, according to the authenticated leaks of conversations in Sisi's offices, colluded with officials to fabricate details about Morsi's detention. Under what remains of Egyptian law, Morsi should not have been held in an army barracks. Barakat perverted the course of justice by attempting to dress up an army barracks into a prison run by the Interior Ministry.


There are three main theories about who was behind a remote-control bombing of this precision. The first suspect is the state itself, either Sisi seeking a justification to implement the death sentence already passed on Morsi, or leading generals within it, who support rivals in the same clan like the exiled Ahmed Shafiq.

As a conspiracy theory, this is not as wild as it as first seems. Barakat's driver was reportedly untouched. There are conflicting rumours about Barakat himself, that he was able to walk away from the car unaided, admitting himself to a civilian hospital before being treated by military doctors. There is confusion about how many cars were involved in the bombing.

The suspicion about exactly what happened on Monday is enough to provoke a senior Muslim Brotherhood leader in exile to call for an international UN investigation into Barakat's death.

He said: "The importance of the death of Barakat will be no less than the murder of Rafic Hariri in Lebanon. It needs the same level of investigation, which is independent from the regime. This death must not be left for Sisi to exploit."

The second set of suspects is a group related to or on the fringes of the Muslim Brotherhood. While the organisation condemned the killing and rigorously denied it had anything to do with it, there are so many victims of the regime within its ranks, that the killing of the prosecutor could be seen as a reply to Morsi's sentence. The third suspect is an Islamic State (IS) or al-Qaeda affiliate, or a non-Islamist leftist revolutionary group. There is one called "Revolutionary Punishment".

Whoever did it, the killing is particularly bad news for Sisi. It is the biggest sign yet that his mission is failing. He swept into power on a ticket of restoring Egypt's stability. And yet two years on, he cannot even protect key figures in his government. Egypt's military saviour is rapidly becoming its nemesis.

Back in June 2013, Sisi might have thought that one quick push was all that was needed. Morsi might have gone quietly and resigned and the Brotherhood might have trooped obediently back to their familiar bunk beds in prison while doing nothing to challenge the legitimacy of the state. It did not turn out like that. The millions who turned out on 30 June to denounce Morsi were never again to appear on the streets of Egypt. But the millions who protested against the military coup all over the country kept on demonstrating and struggling.

Sisi could also have persuaded himself that the tactics that stopped al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya's insurgency from 1992-1998 could work again in 2013. If he did think like this, he made a fatal mistake. That insurgency ended because the group itself did not have mass popular support. The Brotherhood does.

According to every attempt to measure political opinion in Egypt, the Brotherhood has retained its core support of around 30 percent. Two years ago there were over 40 political parties many of whom have disappeared. The Brotherhood remains the largest political movement in Egypt. If Sisi intends to declare war on these people and their families, he is doing so to millions of Egyptians, a portion of whom will turn to violence.


We have seen this before. A dictator uses violence against a peaceful political protest, forcing it to use violence back, and therefore justify the level of repression used against it. This scenario worked for Hafez Assad. But it did not work for his son Bashar, who has now lost control of most of his country. And there is no guarantee that violence will work for Sisi.

The second difference from the insurgency that Egypt faced in the 1990s is what is happening in the region itself. Mainland Egypt, the Arab world's most populous state, is surrounded by failed states or major regional conflicts. There is Libya to the west, Sinai to the east, Gaza to the north and Yemen to the south. The arms that flowed into Libya to propel the fall of Muammar Gaddafi found their way to Gaza. There are few borders any more, and chaos in one country represents a cause for intervention in another.

Sisi has yet to make his biggest mistake, which would be to carry out the death sentence on Morsi. Sayyid Qutb was not a major figure in the Muslim Brotherhood when he was hanged in 1966 for plotting Nasser's assassination. He was a thinker and a writer who came to Islamism after 11 years of being a liberal and an atheist. Qutb's death made him infinitely more influential over future generations of Islamists than he was over his own generation. Morsi was democratically elected. He retains in the eyes of millions of his voters more legitimacy than Sisi. In death, Morsi will become no less a martyr for the Islamist cause than Qutb has been.

Is anyone aware of the dangers of what might be about to happen in Egypt? For sure, Britain's ambassador to Egypt is not. John Casson said after meeting Egypt's Interior Minister Magdy Abdel Ghaffar along with the US ambassador:

"I share the minister's commitment to strengthening the UK-Egypt partnership. Security is a vital foundation for the more secure, prosperous and democratic Egypt we all want to see. That means tough security measures, countering extremist ideology, and progress on the economy, democracy and human rights, which are essential for long-term security."

If Sisi is left in charge, another "surprise" awaits the West in Egypt. It will be of a magnitude far greater than the fall of Mosul to IS.

- David Hearst is editor-in-chief of Middle East Eye. He was chief foreign leader writer of The Guardian, former Associate Foreign Editor, European Editor, Moscow Bureau Chief, European Correspondent, and Ireland Correspondent. He joined The Guardian from The Scotsman, where he was education correspondent.
- See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/si ... fLNsl.dpuf
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mintal wrote:Izraelski vojni izvori: HAMAS pomaze pripadnike islamske drzave na Sinaju


http://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-offici ... -in-sinai/
pripremaju opravdanja za skorije operacije na tlu egipta ,svasta cemo se mi jos nacitat od njih..
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Samo za Kikija, velikog demokratu i zagovornika prozapadnih ideala :D

http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/si ... ina-straha

Jes da je Al-Lažira ali tekst je prilično utemeljen.
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