aratet wrote:salik79 wrote:
Mislio sam na citavu vojno-politicku bulumentu, koja je priznajuci poraz dala ostavke na svoje funkcije. Nije lijeva drzava, drzava koja osudjuje maloljetnike na visegodisnje kazne zatvora zbog bacanja kamenja, dok hladnokrvne ubice slobodno hodaju i jos ih i slave?! Istovarim se na tu "drzavu"!
Hizbullah je "teroristicka organizacija" samo na podrucjima cionistickog politickog uticaja (ucjena i pritiska), dok je u Libanu najjaca politicko-vojna struktura, koja aktivno ucestvuje u politickom i drustvenom zivotu Libana. (Ako je Hizbullah teroristicka organizacija, onda je Liban teroristicka drzava)
Hizbullah na cijeloj teritoriji Libana ima potpunu slobodu kretanja i niko, a ponajmanje cionisti, im mogu ogranicavati tu slobodu. Osluhni sta veli Norman Finkelstein, koji je daleko mjerodavniji po tom pitanju i od tebe i od mene.
Ne prosipaj se, u Izraelu se smjene desavaju, covjek koji je bio na celu je smijenjen, a kasnije je otisao na bolju poziciju.
Eto, drzava je gdje su stadioni puni kada treba nekog lincovati, bravo.
Hezbollah je teroristicka organizacija u svim zapadnim drzavama, istina je da djeluju u politickom zivotu Libanona, to samo dovoljno govori o Libanonu, isto kao sto dovoljno govori o Pojasu Gaze to sto im politickim zivotom vedri i oblaci teroristicka organizacija Hamas.
Ni pravi cionisti nisu toliko zagrizeni, niti izmisljaju koliko ti mozes izmisliti. Mislim da bi ih bilo stid da znaju sta izvaljujes
Pa krenimo opet:
Lebanon frequently pleaded for the United Nations Security Council to call for an immediate, unconditional ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah. John Bolton confirmed that the US and UK, with support from several Arab leaders, delayed the ceasefire process. Outsider efforts to interfere with a ceasefire only ended when it became apparent Hezbollah would not be easily defeated.
A ove arapske drzave, koje su bile kontra Hizbullaha, a na strani IDF-a (sic!) su iste one koje i danas, zajedno sa Izraelom, podrzavaju teroristicke skupine od Sirije i Iraka, pa sve do Jemena i Somalije.
A kada su skontali da im ne ide i da ce nagrebati k'o zuti onda promijenise taktiku i pristadose na primirje (i to bezuvjetno - osim ako blefiranje o stopiranju povlacenja ne smatras nekakvim uvjetom
- a ne kao sto ti sanjas o juznom Libanu kao Hizbullahfree zoni:
Before the ceasefire, the two Hezbollah members of cabinet said that their militia would not disarm south of the Litani River, according to another senior member of the Lebanese cabinet,[288] while a top Hezbollah official similarly denied any intention of disarming in the south. Israel said it would stop withdrawing from Southern Lebanon if Lebanese troops were not deployed there within a matter of days.
sto potvrdjuju i cionisticke glavesine:
In 2008, Ehud Barak, the replacement defense minister for Peretz, stated that the conflict failed to disarm Hezbollah, and that the group is increasingly entrenched in South Lebanon, further stating that "Hezbollah is stronger than ever and has more rockets than at the outbreak of the Lebanon war in the summer of 2006"
Idemo dalje:
"The Israeli Chief of Staff Dan Halutz admitted to failings in the conflict"
On 12 September, former defense minister Moshe Arens spoke of "the defeat of Israel" in calling for a state committee of inquiry. He said that Israel had lost "to a very small group of people, 5,000 Hezbollah fighters, which should have been no match at all for the IDF", and stated that the conflict could have "some very fateful consequences for the future."
Disclosing his intent to shortly resign, Ilan Harari, the IDF's chief education officer, stated at a conference of senior IDF officers that Israel lost the war, becoming the first senior active duty officer to publicly state such an opinion.
IDF Major General Yiftah Ron Tal, on 4 October 2006 became the second and highest ranking serving officer to express his opinion that the IDF failed "to win the day in the battle against Hezbollah" as well as calling for Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz' resignation.[308] Ron-Tal was subsequently fired for making those and other critical comments.
A evo ti i misljenja Winograd komisije, koja je bila formirana nakon ogromnog pritiska javnosti (porodice poginulih vojnika, prezivjeli vojnici,...) :
According to the Winograd Commission Report, the Second Lebanon War was regarded as a "missed opportunity" and that "Israel initiated a long war, which ended without a defined military victory." The report continued to state that "a semi-military organization of a few thousand men resisted, for a few weeks, the strongest army in the Middle East, which enjoyed full air superiority and size and technology advantages." Furthermore, Hezbollah's rocket attacks continued throughout the war and the IDF did not provide an effective response to it. Following a long period of using standoff firepower and limited ground activities, the IDF launched a large-scale ground offensive close to the UN Security Council's resolution which imposed a cease-fire. "This offensive did not result in military gains and was not completed."
Ocito je da ni oni nisu bas ublazili osjecaj vojnog poraza... Ako zelis da nastavim i sa vojnim strucnjacima, i njihovim misljenjima, iz drugih drzava?! Ali, cisto sumnjam da bi te i to razuvjerilo, ako nisi htio povjerovati u ona live-svjedocenja oficira i vojnika netom nakon povlacenja...(dokaz da ih ona svjedocenja bole je i konstantno uklanjanje priloga od strane youtube-a).
Sto se tice "terorizma" vec sam objasnio o cemu se radi, a evo posluzit cu se i linkom koji si sam postavio:
Britain and the Netherlands have long pressed their EU peers to impose sanctions on the Shi'ite Muslim group
Until now, many EU capitals had resisted lobbying from Washington and Israel to blacklist the group,
Samo budali nije jasno...
kad bi i prismrdili jevreji bi ih izbrisali s lica zemlje, kao da nikad nisu ni postojali
Izrael nikad nije ni trebao postojati, doselili ih evropski kolonizatori da maltretiraju narod tu 80 godina već.. Izrael je pobjeđivao ali jedva i ta pobjeda koju je imao se samo čudom desila, ni po jednom parametru nije trebao pobjediti.
