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#401 Re: Ukrajina

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@mba wrote:novi svjetski poredak, nista nije slucajno!
od arapskog proljeca, egipta sa sirijom, pokusaja destabilizacije turske, ukrajina, pitam se kad ce na red doci rusija!


ko jos vjeruje da tolike mase ljudi tek tako izlaze na ulice, sve se to brale priprema u londonu, parisu, tel avivu, washingtonu!

Mah... ima ih koji stalno tupe "da nasjedamo na teorije zavjere".
To što mi živimo u ovoj državici u kojoj se ne zna ni ko je predsjednik, ni ko se za što pita (namjerno organizovan haos u kojem se neki odlično snalaze), ne znači da se stvari u svijetu tek tako slučajno dešavaju. Naprotiv, gotovo ništa u svijetu, posebno u međunarodnim odnosima ne dešava se slučajno. Najveći broj revolucija (oko 95%) se priprema i finansira izvana i za interese nekih drugih sila. Slična je situacija sa velikim brojem terorističkih organizacija, samo možda u nešto manjem procentu.
A narod Ukrajine, njihova sloboda i prava... hmm .. neki izgleda još vjeruju u bajke...
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#402 Re: Ukrajina

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McMoy wrote:
@mba wrote:novi svjetski poredak, nista nije slucajno!
od arapskog proljeca, egipta sa sirijom, pokusaja destabilizacije turske, ukrajina, pitam se kad ce na red doci rusija!


ko jos vjeruje da tolike mase ljudi tek tako izlaze na ulice, sve se to brale priprema u londonu, parisu, tel avivu, washingtonu!

Mah... ima ih koji stalno tupe "da nasjedamo na teorije zavjere".
To što mi živimo u ovoj državici u kojoj se ne zna ni ko je predsjednik, ni ko se za što pita (namjerno organizovan haos u kojem se neki odlično snalaze), ne znači da se stvari u svijetu tek tako slučajno dešavaju. Naprotiv, gotovo ništa u svijetu, posebno u međunarodnim odnosima ne dešava se slučajno. Najveći broj revolucija (oko 95%) se priprema i finansira izvana i za interese nekih drugih sila. Slična je situacija sa velikim brojem terorističkih organizacija, samo možda u nešto manjem procentu.
A narod Ukrajine, njihova sloboda i prava... hmm .. neki izgleda još vjeruju u bajke...
Ova sad situacija je pripremljena prije desetak godina. Al djabe je, neki od sume ne vide drvece. Valjda strah od nepoznatog ili sta već. Al polako, sve ce im se rec kroz par godina.
Sjetit ce se oni teorija zavjera i svega tog.
Samo polako.
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#403 Re: Ukrajina

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Cyrax wrote:Sto ce se njima poslije gujica slediti to bosnjacke geostratege plaho ne zanima. Bitno je mrskoj Rusiji se zamjeriti. :D

Samo ne kontam cemu ovolika frapiranost sto milicija bije? De mi navedite jednu drzavu gdje rajot polis ne bije sta i cime stigne. Samo jednu.
Ne bije u Ameriki. Tamokana je demokratska milicija sa pendrecima koji ljudima utjeruju ljudska prava i slobode u bubrege... :mrgreen:
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#404 Re: Ukrajina

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McMoy wrote:
Cyrax wrote:Sto ce se njima poslije gujica slediti to bosnjacke geostratege plaho ne zanima. Bitno je mrskoj Rusiji se zamjeriti. :D

Samo ne kontam cemu ovolika frapiranost sto milicija bije? De mi navedite jednu drzavu gdje rajot polis ne bije sta i cime stigne. Samo jednu.
Ne bije u Ameriki. Tamokana je demokratska milicija sa pendrecima koji ljudima utjeruju ljudska prava i slobode u bubrege... :mrgreen:
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#406 Re: Ukrajina

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Prica se da nas proslavljeni sportista Nedzad Fazlija po uzoru na ukrainskog Klicka preuzima stvari u svoje ruke i pokrece generalni strajk u Sarajevu.

PRVI DAN: http://laprdanja.blogger.ba/arhiva/2012/11/29/3432636
DRUGI DAN: http://laprdanja.blogger.ba/arhiva/2012/12/04/3435862
TRECI DAN: http://laprdanja.blogger.ba/arhiva/2012/12/14/3442239
CETVRTI DAN: http://laprdanja.blogger.ba/arhiva/2012/12/27/3450266
PETI DAN: http://laprdanja.blogger.ba/arhiva/2012/12/31/3452925
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#407 Re: Ukrajina

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nosara wrote:
Opetja033 wrote:
It_is_a_Leclerc wrote:Interes moje zemlje je svaki mogući poraz Rusije, kao dokazanog neprijatelja.
Ako će to biti distanciranje Ukrajine, podržavam to svesredno. I u inat ovim "boljševicima".
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Krako i jasno!

Nadam se uspjehu slobodarskog naroda Ukrajine.
:lol:

Jedan od slobodarskih naroda koji su potrcali pod okrilje ss-a... :-)
S obzirom na ekonomske i demografske učinke "bratsva sa Rusima" i njihovog Bratstva i Jedinstva ne bi me čudilo i da su anti-Kristu pod okrilje dotrčali.

Crvena gamad pobila milione ljudi kroz izgladnjivanje, hem onda krive gladan narod kojem je dopizdio crvena bolest i što su pobjegli racionalnijoj alternativi, hem što današnji fanovi ovog amoralnog i bolesnog sistema veličaju najveće kaspine u historiji a pljuju po žrtvama.
Holodomor Facts and History:

The following is a chronology of events surrounding the “Holodomor”
Holodomor: approximate pronunciation: 'huh-luh-duh-more'

BRIEF SUMMARY

The term Holodomor refers specifically to the brutal artificial famine imposed by Stalin's regime on Soviet Ukraine and primarily ethnically Ukrainian areas in the Northern Caucasus in 1932-33.

In its broadest sense, it is also used to describe the Ukrainian genocide that began in 1929 with the massive waves of deadly deportations of Ukraine's most successful farmers (kurkuls, or kulaks, in Russian) as well as the deportations and executions of Ukraine's religious, intellectual and cultural leaders, culminating in the devastating forced famine that killed millions more innocent individuals. The genocide in fact continued for several more years with the further destruction of Ukraine's political leadership, the resettlement of Ukraine's depopulated areas with other ethnic groups, the prosecution of those who dared to speak of the famine publicly, and the consistent blatant denial of famine by the Soviet regime.

1917
The Bolsheviks, led by Vladimir Lenin take power in Russia.

1922
The Soviet Union is formed with Ukraine becoming one of the republics.

1924
After Lenin's death, Joseph Stalin ascends to power.

1928
Stalin introduces a program of agricultural collectivization that forces farmers to give up their private land, equipment and livestock, and join state owned, factory-like collective farms. Stalin decides that collective farms would not only feed the industrial workers in the cities but could also provide a substantial amount of grain to be sold abroad, with the money used to finance his industrialization plans.

1929
Many Ukrainian farmers, known for their independence, still refuse to join the collective farms, which they regarded as similar to returning to the serfdom of earlier centuries. Stalin introduces a policy of "class warfare" in the countryside in order to break down resistance to collectivization. The successful farmers, or kurkuls, (kulaks, in Russian) are branded as the class enemy, and brutal enforcement by regular troops and secret police is used to "liquidate them as a class." Eventually anyone who resists collectivization is considered a kurkul.

1930
1.5 million Ukrainians fall victim to Stalin's "dekulakization" policies, Over the extended period of collectivization, armed dekulakization brigades forcibly confiscate land, livestock and other property, and evict entire families. Close to half a million individuals in Ukraine are dragged from their homes, packed into freight trains, and shipped to remote, uninhabited areas such as Siberia where they are left, often without food or shelter. A great many, especially children, die in transit or soon thereafter.

1932-1933
The Soviet government sharply increases Ukraine's production quotas, ensuring that they could not be met. Starvation becomes widespread. In the summer of 1932, a decree is implemented that calls for the arrest or execution of any person – even a child -- found taking as little as a few stalks of wheat or any possible food item from the fields where he worked. By decree, discriminatory voucher systems are implemented, and military blockades are erected around many Ukrainian villages preventing the transport of food into the villages and the hungry from leaving in search of food. Brigades of young activists from other Soviet regions are brought in to sweep through the villages and confiscate hidden grain, and eventually any and all food from the farmers' homes. Stalin states of Ukraine that "the national question is in essence a rural question" and he and his commanders determine to "teach a lesson through famine" and ultimately, to deal a "crushing blow" to the backbone of Ukraine, its rural population.

1933
By June, at the height of the famine, people in Ukraine are dying at the rate of 30,000 a day, nearly a third of them are children under 10. Between 1932-34, approximately 4 million deaths are attributed to starvation within the borders of Soviet Ukraine. This does not include deportations, executions, or deaths from ordinary causes. Stalin denies to the world that there is any famine in Ukraine, and continues to export millions of tons of grain, more than enough to have saved every starving man, woman and child.
Famine Victims
A Corpse of a Famine Victim
on the streets of Kharkiv, 1933.

Uncovering the Truth:

“Any report of a famine in Russia is today an exaggeration or malignant propaganda. There is no klix starvation or deaths from starvation but there is widespread mortality from diseases due to malnutrition.”
(as reported by the New York Times correspondent and Pulitzer-prize winner Walter Duranty)

Denial of the famine by Soviet authorities was echoed at the time of the famine by some prominent Western journalists, like Walter Duranty. The Soviet Union adamantly refused any outside assistance because the regime officially denied that there was any famine. Anyone claiming the contrary was accused of spreading anti-Soviet propaganda. Outside the Soviet Union, Western governments adopted a passive attitude toward the famine, although most of them had become aware of the true suffering in Ukraine through confidential diplomatic channels.

In fact, in November 1933, the United States, under newly elected president Franklin D. Roosevelt, chose to formally recognized Stalin's Communist government and also negotiated a sweeping new trade agreement. The following year, the pattern of denial in the West culminated with the admission of the Soviet Union into the League of Nations. Stalin's Five-Year Plans for the modernization of the Soviet Union depended largely on the purchase of massive amounts of manufactured goods and technology from Western nations. Those nations were unwilling to disrupt lucrative trade agreements with the Soviet Union in order to pursue the matter of the famine.

In the ensuing decades, Ukrainian émigré groups sought acknowledgment of this tragic, massive genocide, but with little success. Not until the late 1980's, with the publication of eminent scholar Robert Conquest's "Harvest of Sorrow," the report of the US Commission on the Ukraine Famine, and the findings of the International Commission of Inquiry into the 1932–33 Famine in Ukraine, and the release of the eye-opening documentary "Harvest of Despair," did greater world attention come to bear on this event. In Soviet Ukraine, of course, the Holodomor was kept out of official discourse until the late 1980's, shortly before Ukraine won its independence in 1991. With the fall of the Soviet Union, previously inaccessible archives, as well as the long suppressed oral testimony of Holodomor survivors living in Ukraine, have yielded massive evidence offering incontrovertible proof of Ukraine's tragic famine genocide of the 1930's.

On November 28th 2006, the Verkhovna Rada (Parliament of Ukraine) passed a decree defining the Holodomor as a deliberate Act of Genocide. Although the Russian government continues to call Ukraine's depiction of the famine a "one-sided falsification of history," it is recognized as genocide by approximately two dozen nations, and is now the focus of considerable international research and documentation.
Ako ima boga, svi koji veličaju ove crvene podljude zaslužuju najbolja mjesta u paklu uz svoje idole.
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#408 Re: Ukrajina

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Klavikula wrote:
McMoy wrote:
Cyrax wrote:Sto ce se njima poslije gujica slediti to bosnjacke geostratege plaho ne zanima. Bitno je mrskoj Rusiji se zamjeriti. :D

Samo ne kontam cemu ovolika frapiranost sto milicija bije? De mi navedite jednu drzavu gdje rajot polis ne bije sta i cime stigne. Samo jednu.
Ne bije u Ameriki. Tamokana je demokratska milicija sa pendrecima koji ljudima utjeruju ljudska prava i slobode u bubrege... :mrgreen:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:
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#409 Re: Ukrajina

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Joe McCarthy wrote:
Ako ima boga, svi koji veličaju ove crvene podljude zaslužuju najbolja mjesta u paklu uz svoje idole.
Prica se da je McCarthy bio derpe... Kakva su tvoja saznanja...? :D
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nosara wrote:
Joe McCarthy wrote:
Ako ima boga, svi koji veličaju ove crvene podljude zaslužuju najbolja mjesta u paklu uz svoje idole.
Prica se da je McCarthy bio derpe... Kakva su tvoja saznanja...? :D
Ad hominem? Nikakvi argumenti da se bar pokušaju osporiti činjenice?

Ne očekujem ništa više od vas poklonika ove zle ideologije.
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Joe McCarthy wrote:
nosara wrote:
Joe McCarthy wrote:
Ako ima boga, svi koji veličaju ove crvene podljude zaslužuju najbolja mjesta u paklu uz svoje idole.
Prica se da je McCarthy bio derpe... Kakva su tvoja saznanja...? :D
Ad hominem? Nikakvi argumenti da se bar pokušaju osporiti činjenice?

Ne očekujem ništa više od vas poklonika ove zle ideologije.
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nosara wrote:
:evil:
Barem priznaješ da štuješ moralno bankruptiranu ideologiju i slaviš najveće bolesnike kao heroje.
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#413 Re: Ukrajina

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Joe McCarthy wrote:
nosara wrote:
:evil:
Barem priznaješ da štuješ moralno bankruptiranu ideologiju i slaviš najveće bolesnike kao heroje.


Pazi da ti ne stanu na njusku... :lol:

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nosara wrote:
Joe McCarthy wrote:
nosara wrote:
:evil:
Barem priznaješ da štuješ moralno bankruptiranu ideologiju i slaviš najveće bolesnike kao heroje.


Pazi da ti ne stanu na njusku... :lol:

Ovo bi trebalo biti izbrisano kao bilo koja druga totalitarna propaganda. :roll:

Šta je sljedeće? Sad će administracija dopustiti da mali BPNPovci ovdje postavlja marširanja 36-45 pripadnika njihove morbidne ideologije? Either way, ovaj post je prijavljen.
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Libo me ti... :D
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nosara wrote:Libo me ti... :D
Ponovo u krug sa ad hominem napadima?
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Joe McCarthy wrote:Ovo bi trebalo biti izbrisano kao bilo koja druga totalitarna propaganda.
Šta je totalitarna propaganda? Himna SSSR koja je u malim izmjenama texta himna RF ili parada u čast dana pobjede nad fašizmom u kom je ta zemlja dala preko 25 miliona života :?
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#419 Re: Ukrajina

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Porucio bih ovima sto pricaju o kapitalizmu kao zreloj i logicnoj alternativi socijalizmu slijedece: Ljudi dragi kapitalizam nije samo u Njemačkoj, Luksemburgu i Švicarskoj, nego i u Eritreji, Somaliji, Burkini Faso, Burundiju, Haitiju i širom svijeta :D
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#420 Re: Ukrajina

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Martinez_ wrote:
BHCluster wrote:
Šveđanin wrote:Ultimatum Janukoviču: Izbori ili...

Kijev -- Lideri ukrajinske opozicije dali su ultimatum predsedniku Janukoviču da u roku od 24 sata raspiše prevremene izbore ili će se suočiti sa još žešćim protestima.



Sad il nikad. :oops:
To ti kolega zove efektivna opozicija.
To se zove naoružana plaćenička opozicija sa jakom međunarodnom podrškom.
A zar i ti nisu teroristi?
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#421 Re: Ukrajina

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Kao prvo, Ukrajina je isto što i Bosna ako razumijete šta hoću da kažem. Sada je u Ukrajini puklo jer je sukob USA i Rusije došao do vrhunca a nakon što se ispostavilo da su USA u pogledu krize u Siriji apsolutno nemoćne u pogledu direktnog upliva. Kao rezultat svega toga razvio se front između USA i Rusije od Ukrajine, preko Bosne do Turske. Teška politička situacij u Ukrajini, BiH, i Turskoj. Uvođenje viza za BiH građane za Kosovo bi trebalo biti indikativno, jer zna se da je Kosovo marionetska USA tvorevina pa se prema tome može smatrati da Kosovo nije zadovoljno to što ih nismo priznali a takožer to znači da ni USA nisu zadovoljne držanjem BH vlasti u ovom međunarodnom sporu jer USA Kosovu dozvolili da nam uvedu vize. Moglo bi usljediti i nešto radiklnije, uvođenje viza nama za EU i USA.
Zlatkovo zgražavanje nad Assadom u Oslobođenju i Bakirov poziv Papi da posjeti Sarajevo ima za cilj da neutrališe negativne vibracije koje dolaze prema nama od strane Zapada i da neutrališe negativne posljedice izravne podrške Erdoganu.
Ukrajina? Pa to je samo sjeverni front budučeg svijetskog rata
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Nema sta, ko u Lord of the rings ili u Gladiatoru ona prva bitka

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Zadnja slika, ko je upoznat sa Warhammer 40K ce se nasmijati :D
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@nosara, ohladi.

@Joe McCarthy, paralele između SSSR armije i Nacista ni najmanje me ne interesuju. tako da, i ti spusti lopticu.
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#424 Re: Ukrajina

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AleksoMKD wrote:
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Zadnja slika, ko je upoznat sa Warhammer 40K ce se nasmijati :D
Oplako :D
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#425 Re: Ukrajina

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Rusija, nazalost, odavno nije crvena, ali zato udarnu grupu pro-EU opozicije cine neonacisti. ali dobro, Hitlerove ideje u Europi su snaznije nego ikad od WWII, tako da se bas uklapaju.

McCarthy :facepalm: :facepalm: :zid: :zid:
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