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#38251 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
"LeBron is so lazy, Jordan never took off any possessions on defense"
Oh really?
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Oh really?
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#38252 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Since LeBron came back from injury:
Lakers with LeBron on the court: +1 point differential
Lakers with LeBron off the court: -156 point differential
Ugasite cirkusantsku franšizu
Lakers with LeBron on the court: +1 point differential
Lakers with LeBron off the court: -156 point differential
Ugasite cirkusantsku franšizu
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#38253 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Ne treba gasit nista, samo vratit vrijeme i poslat samoproglasenu kraljicu u picku materinu kad ih nazove. Djeca bez njega su bolji skor imala prosle godine nego ove s njim.
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#38255 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Kralj statistikeRaigor Stonehoof wrote:Ne treba gasit nista, samo vratit vrijeme i poslat samoproglasenu kraljicu u picku materinu kad ih nazove. Djeca bez njega su bolji skor imala prosle godine nego ove s njim.
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#38256 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
E jbg sad. Kakav su omjer imali dok se nije povrijedio? Nakon toga je bio raspad sistema, a nakon trade glasina totalni debakl (doduše ima i njegove krivice tu). Dakle idiotski je reci da je do njega, a da ostali valjaju
. Izdvoji se par sekvenci i kao LeBron se ne trudi bla, bla, a eno bio je jordanov video gdje je isto izdvojeno nekoliko sekvenci gdje izgleda gore od hardena.
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#38257 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Čekaj, ako su se MJ izdvojili neki momenti, onda se LJ treba čitav film od 2 sata posvetiti.
Kroz cijelu karijeru mu se prigovara za odbranu. Nije to samo sad u LAL.
Kroz cijelu karijeru mu se prigovara za odbranu. Nije to samo sad u LAL.
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#38258 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Evo nešto friško od free agenta što pokupih na waiveru:
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#38259 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Kako citavu karijeru? Haj daj neki izvor, nesto? Mislim da sam vec pisao o njegovoj odbrani na roseu kad ih je ubijao dok ga on nije preuzeo. Pa recimo blokovi na onome centru spursa i igoudali. Bilo je price da je popustio u odbrani, ali s namjernom da se malo stedi, tj. da bira bitke. Jbg father time. I uz sve to ne vidim da su zbog njegove odbrane nesto izgubili. Nekako olako tvrdis koliko dugačak bi bio film jednog i drugog. Mislim da se ne sjecas bas svih utakmica Jordana i da je dosta toga prepricavanjem postalo mit. Da se razumijemo i meni je mj goat, ali ono postaje nadrealno koliko ga se uzdiže. Jos za kraj da pitam sta je sa ovim videom? Zna se da je pat dobar defanzivac + ima dodatni motiv sto je kasnije izjavio, ali ne vidim da je LeBron nesto pretjerano lose uradio. Otvorio se nekoliko puta, ali izgleda da niko ne zna dodati lopte u pravom trenu.
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#38260 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Ozbiljno? Izvor? Pa šta si gledao sve ove godinespree wrote:Kako citavu karijeru? Haj daj neki izvor, nesto? Mislim da sam vec pisao o njegovoj odbrani na roseu kad ih je ubijao dok ga on nije preuzeo. Pa recimo blokovi na onome centru spursa i igoudali. Bilo je price da je popustio u odbrani, ali s namjernom da se malo stedi, tj. da bira bitke. Jbg father time. I uz sve to ne vidim da su zbog njegove odbrane nesto izgubili. Nekako olako tvrdis koliko dugačak bi bio film jednog i drugog. Mislim da se ne sjecas bas svih utakmica Jordana i da je dosta toga prepricavanjem postalo mit. Da se razumijemo i meni je mj goat, ali ono postaje nadrealno koliko ga se uzdiže. Jos za kraj da pitam sta je sa ovim videom? Zna se da je pat dobar defanzivac + ima dodatni motiv sto je kasnije izjavio, ali ne vidim da je LeBron nesto pretjerano lose uradio. Otvorio se nekoliko puta, ali izgleda da niko ne zna dodati lopte u pravom trenu.
Vidiš, to je problem. Hajmo mu dati zasluge kad je uštopao Rosea, a zaboravimo da je imao situacije gdje je on crna rupa u ekipi od Cavsa, Heata, sad Lakersa. Dobro, u Lakersima je to najmanje bitno, tamo je svakako cirkus.
Ma ne uzdižem nikog, što se tiče MJ, to su fakti, nema potrebe raspravljati o tome.
Ne sjećam se svih utakmica MJ. Jbg, bio je rat.
Nadrealno za MJ, a nije za LJ
Pa piše fino u videu, naslov objašnjava sve.
Nema ništa sporno, samo je Beverley 18 cm manji i izgleda ko Sudo Husika u odnosu na Jamesa. Znaš kad bi ovako lock down MJ fizički inferiorniji igrač?! Nikad.
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#38261 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
5 puta u najboljoj def. petorci je james bio,znaci kad je htio,igrao je odlicnu odbranu
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#38262 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
kakavdanakneiskustvu wrote:5 puta u najboljoj def. petorci je james bio,znaci kad je htio,igrao je odlicnu odbranu
A sto se tice Beverlyja jel' fakat tvrdis da ga je ustopao na osnovu ove tri situacije iz clipa? Hocemo jednu po jednu? Evo prva otvara se covjek par puta, a pat se fino postavlja. Igrao si basket pa znaš kako je u borbi za poziciju. Bitna je pamet, a ne bi rekao da je pat bas fizički slab (ok svakako je LeBron jaci, ali eto ovaj ima nize teziste). Druga situacija dodaje loptu na tricu vjerovatno. Mozda je ostao neko sam pa je to right play. Nemamo sve situacije kad ga je cuvao mozda ga je nekada i ugurao. I treca situacija nema apsolutno nikakve veze sa LeBronom. Neko je prosao igraca Beverly preuzima, a LeBron ostaje sam i umjesto dobrog lob pasa ide los ili je jednostavno Beverly prebrz. Pusti se senzacionalistickih naslova i clipova radi clicka.
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#38263 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Pa James je i jači i veći. A jasno da se Pat izvlači na pamet.
Treća nema direktno, ali ga je odsjekao, stavio u ćoše, tako da kad je ovaj krenuo sa pasom, tu je sačekao Pat i to je to.
Ja nisam rekao da konstantno ne igra odbranu nego da kroz cijelu karijeru ima crnih rupa u smislu onog kad ga kamera uhvati kako ne brani nikog.
Treća nema direktno, ali ga je odsjekao, stavio u ćoše, tako da kad je ovaj krenuo sa pasom, tu je sačekao Pat i to je to.
Ja nisam rekao da konstantno ne igra odbranu nego da kroz cijelu karijeru ima crnih rupa u smislu onog kad ga kamera uhvati kako ne brani nikog.
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#38264 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Ma svako to ima. Imao je i goat. Sad koliko, realno ne znamo ni ti ni ja. Sad je sve previše dostupno za razliku od onda i pod vecom su lupom igraci danas. Ovaj clip je smiješan i sluzi samo za click. Me kažem da je LeBron savršen niti ga branim, ali bezveze je reci da je on kita i da samo napucava statistike. Svi danas napucavaju statistike i dosta se to gleda, mada oduvijek su to igraci radili. Do ove povrede bio je najbolji igrac na planeti vec neko vrijeme, ali dodju ovdje frustrirani fajkers fanovi i govore da je kita. Vjerovatno je to trauma jos iz vremena kada je bacio kobea u drugi plan.
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#38265 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Trebao bih se malo više baviti Jordanovom ostavštinom, treba razotkrivati mitove.
MJ in Game 6 of the 1996 Finals shot 5-19 (0-4 in the 4th). Got bailed out by Seattle being dogshit and Dennis Rodman rebounding his bricks on offense.
Title winning shot for Chicago in 1993. MJ doesn't even touch the ball in the half court. Got bailed out by Paxson. MJ didn't have enough killer instinct I guess.
"MJ never went to Game 7 of the Finals"... yeah, because he got bailed out in Game 6's by his bench in 1992, John Paxson in 1993, his team in 1996 when he shot 5-19, Steve Kerr in 1997, and the refs in 1998.
In Game 6 of the 1992 Finals MJ goes to the bench to start the 4th down 15. Within 3 minutes his bench cut the lead to 5.
Let's go to the 1990 ECF. The Bulls lost all 4 games on the road. Let's see how MJ did in those games
G1: 3 4th Q points (lost by 9)
G2: 5 4th Q points (lost by 9)
G5: 5 4th Q points (lost by 14)
G7: 9 4th Q points on 10 shots (lost by 19)
In 1989, MJ went up 2-1 in the ECF, but then lost 3 in a row. Let's see how he did in those games
G4: Scored 11 points over last 3 quarters in a 6 point home loss
G5: Scored 1 4th Q point in a crucial 9 point loss
G6: Scored 6 4th Q points in 9 point season ending home loss
You always hear how MJ took over in the 4th & refused to let his team lose. Here's the last 3 games of the 1988 ECSF:
G3: scores 3 4th Q points in a 22 point home loss
G4: scores 8 4th Q points in a 19 point home loss (statpadder)
G5: scores 5 4th Q points in a 7 point loss
Michael Jordan shot just 42.9% over his last 15 NBA Finals games.
Games 3 & 6 of the 1993 ECF:
Michael Jordan: 11-42 (26.2%)
Rest of the Bulls: 53-93 (57.0%)
While we’re on the topic of exposing MJ, in Game 6 of the 1998 Finals where MJ “carried” the Bulls, he shot 15-35 (42.9%). His teammates shot 19-32 (59.4%).
What about in the 1997 Conference Finals where MJ shot 38.7% and had as many turnovers as assists? Bulls won in 5. You don’t hear about that very often.
When MJ shot 5-19 in Game 6 of the 1996 Finals but the Bulls still won by 12
Today is March 18th (3/18), which is what Michael Jordan shot from the field in Game 3 of the 1993 Conference Finals.
The Bulls were down 0-2 in the series but won by 20 bc Pippen dropped 29 on 10–12 shooting. The rest of the Bulls shot 28-47 (59.6%) in that game to bail MJ out.
In Game 6 of that same series, MJ shot like shit again but got saved by Pippen & company shooting 25-46 (54.4%)
MJ in Game 6 of the 1996 Finals shot 5-19 (0-4 in the 4th). Got bailed out by Seattle being dogshit and Dennis Rodman rebounding his bricks on offense.
Title winning shot for Chicago in 1993. MJ doesn't even touch the ball in the half court. Got bailed out by Paxson. MJ didn't have enough killer instinct I guess.
"MJ never went to Game 7 of the Finals"... yeah, because he got bailed out in Game 6's by his bench in 1992, John Paxson in 1993, his team in 1996 when he shot 5-19, Steve Kerr in 1997, and the refs in 1998.
In Game 6 of the 1992 Finals MJ goes to the bench to start the 4th down 15. Within 3 minutes his bench cut the lead to 5.
Let's go to the 1990 ECF. The Bulls lost all 4 games on the road. Let's see how MJ did in those games
G1: 3 4th Q points (lost by 9)
G2: 5 4th Q points (lost by 9)
G5: 5 4th Q points (lost by 14)
G7: 9 4th Q points on 10 shots (lost by 19)
In 1989, MJ went up 2-1 in the ECF, but then lost 3 in a row. Let's see how he did in those games
G4: Scored 11 points over last 3 quarters in a 6 point home loss
G5: Scored 1 4th Q point in a crucial 9 point loss
G6: Scored 6 4th Q points in 9 point season ending home loss
You always hear how MJ took over in the 4th & refused to let his team lose. Here's the last 3 games of the 1988 ECSF:
G3: scores 3 4th Q points in a 22 point home loss
G4: scores 8 4th Q points in a 19 point home loss (statpadder)
G5: scores 5 4th Q points in a 7 point loss
Michael Jordan shot just 42.9% over his last 15 NBA Finals games.
Games 3 & 6 of the 1993 ECF:
Michael Jordan: 11-42 (26.2%)
Rest of the Bulls: 53-93 (57.0%)
While we’re on the topic of exposing MJ, in Game 6 of the 1998 Finals where MJ “carried” the Bulls, he shot 15-35 (42.9%). His teammates shot 19-32 (59.4%).
What about in the 1997 Conference Finals where MJ shot 38.7% and had as many turnovers as assists? Bulls won in 5. You don’t hear about that very often.
When MJ shot 5-19 in Game 6 of the 1996 Finals but the Bulls still won by 12
Today is March 18th (3/18), which is what Michael Jordan shot from the field in Game 3 of the 1993 Conference Finals.
The Bulls were down 0-2 in the series but won by 20 bc Pippen dropped 29 on 10–12 shooting. The rest of the Bulls shot 28-47 (59.6%) in that game to bail MJ out.
In Game 6 of that same series, MJ shot like shit again but got saved by Pippen & company shooting 25-46 (54.4%)
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#38266 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Seasons shooting above 47% in a Lakers uniform:
LeBron James: 1x in 1 season
Kobe Bryant: 0x in 20 seasons

LeBron James: 1x in 1 season
Kobe Bryant: 0x in 20 seasons
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#38267 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
1x lottery in 1 season 
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#38268 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
https://twitter.com/SportsTalkBarry/sta ... 1469540352Tomahawk11 wrote: Nema ništa sporno, samo je Beverley 18 cm manji i izgleda ko Sudo Husika u odnosu na Jamesa. Znaš kad bi ovako lock down MJ fizički inferiorniji igrač?! Nikad.
Koliko je ovaj inferiorniji?
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#38269 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
6/6MensurM wrote:https://twitter.com/SportsTalkBarry/sta ... 1469540352Tomahawk11 wrote: Nema ništa sporno, samo je Beverley 18 cm manji i izgleda ko Sudo Husika u odnosu na Jamesa. Znaš kad bi ovako lock down MJ fizički inferiorniji igrač?! Nikad.
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#38270 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Joj kako te demantujem u sekundi. Nisam human jel tako?Tomahawk11 wrote:6/6MensurM wrote:https://twitter.com/SportsTalkBarry/sta ... 1469540352Tomahawk11 wrote: Nema ništa sporno, samo je Beverley 18 cm manji i izgleda ko Sudo Husika u odnosu na Jamesa. Znaš kad bi ovako lock down MJ fizički inferiorniji igrač?! Nikad.
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#38271 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
izbio mu loptu iz ruku,to bas i nema veze sa razlikom u visini
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#38272 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Nije ga mogao probiti...kakavdanakneiskustvu wrote:izbio mu loptu iz ruku,to bas i nema veze sa razlikom u visini
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#38273 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
oni koji imalo nesto znaju i sjecaju se,kad se spomene bogues i odbrana,sjetice se sp 1986. i njegove fantasticne odbrane na petrovicu,cijelu utakmicu,37 cm nizi igrac
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#38274 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
Beverley je inače krampa u odbrani.kakavdanakneiskustvu wrote:oni koji imalo nesto znaju i sjecaju se,kad se spomene bogues i odbrana,sjetice se sp 1986. i njegove fantasticne odbrane na petrovicu,cijelu utakmicu,37 cm nizi igrac
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#38275 Re: NBA - National Basketball Association
ja to ne napisah
