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Iniesta bi ponovo mogao postati otac...Možda vam se i u formu vrati

skenderija04 wrote: Ko je ovo smislio ne znam.

A daj cega se sjeti

Xavi- the puppet master xD

skenderija04 wrote:Cekajte da vam dodje @505 sa brojevima

Ako su moji tacni, sa 69 % posjeda pod Pepom palo je na 64% pod L.E. Posjed je pecat ove ekipe i ne vidim da se mnogo promijenilo
Presing je takodje pecat. Ima li ga? Naravno. Razlika je sto se presing vrsi na3/4 a ne pred protivnickim golom. Barcelona je imala problem "kratkog jorgana" , kad pokrijes glavu, noge otkrivene i obratno. Jedini nacin da se nadje ravnoteza je ovaj. Kako sada svi hvale Piquea, da covjek ne povjeruje. Za samo mjesec dana opet je Beckenbauer....pardon Piquenbauer. Zasto? Smiro se, dobio drugog sina, poceo je da trenira...Nije tacno. Sada ne stoji sam na centru i trci nazad ko budala. Sada nema onh glupih situacija kada mora da pokriva Alvesovu rupu i mora da izlazi na brzeg igraca u unaprijed izgubljenoj situaciji 1X1. Sada je Busquets blize golu, Alves vise nije toliko ofanzivan pa i zatvori(ponekad) svoju stranu.Slicna situacija je i sa Iniestom, ali u drugom pravcu. Sada se cuje i cita: Iniesta bivsi fudaler, Iniesta zreo za Americke lige, i slicne stvari. Iniesta sada igra na centru sa dosta defanzivnih zadataka. Nema vise driblinga, pasova po dijagonali, asistencija. Iniesta se podredio kolektivu. Izgubio je na znacaju ali uloga ostaje bitna. Fudbal koji diktiraju Xavi & Iniesta zajedno vise nije produktivan.. Ove sezone tri puta skupa Dva poraza(Real &Real) i jedna pobjeda(Rayo) Moralo se nesto promijeniti. Odgovor je nadjen nakon Anoete. Barcelona je jednostavno morala pomjeriti sve 20 metara prema nazad. Prvi i osnovni motiv je odbrana. Pozadi su sada skupljeni i protivnik ne pravi toliko izglednih situacija. To je prvi dio ove nove ideje. A ako se povuces 20 metara prema nazad, i kada osvojis loptu presingom oko centra, jedini nacin je vertikala. Nema tu vise vremena za izmjenu pasova. Rezultat je tu. Protivnik ce doci pred Barsin gol 2/3 puta. Barcelona ce pred protivnicki stici 4/5 puta. Ali tih 4/5 puta ce pucati Messi, Ney i Suarez. To je kvalitet i najveca vrijednost ove ekipe.
Moraju je iskoristiti. Ova ekipa i dalje odrzava esenciju Guardioline ekipe, izlaze igrajuci do noge, napad se konstruise iz posjeda, nema bezveznih nabijanja. Razlika je u tih 20 metara gdje presing odradi svoje, lopa se osvoji i ostalo izgleda kao kontranapad. Neka izgleda.
Ova ekipa zna i latinicu i cirilicu. Do kada mogu ovako vidjecemo.

Svaka čast, pravi džentlmen i učenjak. Posebno ovo za Piquea. Uzmi prošlu sezonu za primjer: 9/10 ljudi ovdje će ko iz topa reći da je Godin daleko bolji stoper od Piquea, bez da i pomisli na razlike u sistemima igre gdje jedan kampira duboko sa par profesionalnih kasapa u veznom redu a drugi čeka ogoljen na 40 metara da ga brži i okretniji igrač obruka. Jesi primjetio kako je sad moda da se Bayernovi stoperi ismijavaju na taj način? Uz naravno nezaobilazni komentar kako je 'odbrana slaba karika' (kao da je odbrana izolovan organizam čiji performans ne ovisi od ostatka tima).

Ko misli da je ovaj trenutni Barcelonin pristup odustajanje od 'filozofije' nek skine 2:6 Clasico i obrati pažnju kako se napadao prostor, odakle i kakvim pasovima.

Muz, otac, kralj!

ascari wrote:Muz, otac, kralj!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-LAL14L7WY[/youtube

eo jos jedan dokaz da se termini trebaju vratiti na staro, a ne ovo azijsko kukuriku sranje.

Cisto da se ubije dosada do sutra: Vinyals/Samper

kad se ubija vrijeme vec. 10.2.1996. meho dao dva gola.

omar little wrote:eo jos jedan dokaz da se termini trebaju vratiti na staro, a ne ovo azijsko kukuriku sranje.

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9e9NgDCQAE7Rj_.jpg:large[/img

trebali su napisati i broj odigranih utakmica po satu.

omar little wrote:kad se ubija vrijeme vec. 10.2.1996. meho dao dva gola.

evo malo literature za razonodu. (isplati se).

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/lione ... ona-debut/
http://www.howlermagazine.com/lionel-messi/
http://blogs.thescore.com/counterattack ... rs-in-one/

5 0 5 wrote:

omar little wrote:kad se ubija vrijeme vec. 10.2.1996. meho dao dva gola.

evo malo literature za razonodu. (isplati se).

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/lione ... ona-debut/
http://www.howlermagazine.com/lionel-messi/
http://blogs.thescore.com/counterattack ... rs-in-one/

phillipsa znam, a ovaj zadnji coxov me baca stalno na naslovnicu. mislim da je to nestalo kada su redizajnirali stranicu. ako nadjes negdje drugdje linkaj pliz.

omar little wrote:eo jos jedan dokaz da se termini trebaju vratiti na staro, a ne ovo azijsko kukuriku sranje.

tišu tamo, vi preko bare ste izmislili globalizaciju

omar little wrote:
phillipsa znam, a ovaj zadnji coxov me baca stalno na naslovnicu. mislim da je to nestalo kada su redizajnirali stranicu. ako nadjes negdje drugdje linkaj pliz.

Cox: Lionel Messi is three world class players in one

Posted by Michael Cox under Barcelona, La Liga, Lionel Messi on Oct 12, 2012



I’ve had the pleasure of watching Lionel Messi play just twice. In both matches, he’s failed to score, which, considering both matches were after his explosion into the greatest player of his generation (circa 2009) is a surely a statistical improbability.

Both times, the general reaction to his display was muted; I’m unquestionably yet to witness a Messi masterclass. However, on both occasions he was quite evidently Barcelona’s best and, most important player. If he were any other person on the planet, his performance would be described as exceptional. From Messi, we expect genius every week.

When Simon Burnton of the Guardian interviewed Billy Beane and asked who the most underrated footballer was, the Moneyball mastermind had a fine answer. “You know, I’d actually say Lionel Messi,” Beane declared. “He’s so remarkable, watching him play, he’s probably still undervalued. When you’re scoring five goals in one Champions League match, there’s no value that’s too high.”

For the majority of top footballers, take away their main asset and they’d become an average player. You can basically do three things when you get the ball: dribble, pass, or shoot. Messi can do each to an astoundingly high level.

Messi the Dribbler

Taking on opponents remains a key feature of his game, yet his role as an exclusive dribbler is in the past. When Messi broke through into the Barcelona side, beating defenders was his primary quality; he caught the eye because of his speed, his upper-body strength, and his sheer directness.

His reputation soared when he scored his Diego Maradona-esque goal against Getafe, running from the halfway line to goal. It probably wasn’t his best goal, it certainly wasn’t his most important. Nevertheless, it became the first defining Messi moment because it summarized his game beautifully—he picked up the ball on the right then dribbled infield towards goal. Simple.

Barcelona are a side based around passing ability, probably to a greater extent than any side in history. That’s what made Messi’s directness so thrilling. In tandem with Dani Alves, Barcelona’s right-hand side during Pep Guardiola’s first season as coach was fearsome. Messi would pick up the ball and attract two opponents, while Alves would speed down the outside.

Messi’s re-deployment as a central player makes his dribbling less pivotal. One associates dribblers with playing on the flanks, and with good reason: the centre of the pitch is more crowded, the obstacles are more frequent, more unpredictable and more immediate.

Yet Messi continues to be a fantastic dribbler, and the key is the manner in which he receives the ball from teammates. Out wide, it is simple: you get a sideways pass, let the ball come across your body slightly, then take on the full-back. In the centre you have to be on the half-turn, you have to drift away from your marker until the final second. It sounds like a cliché, but Messi starts his dribble before the opponent has even realised he’s in possession of the ball. He’s always on the move, always thinking one step ahead.

Messi the Finisher

Messi is not as pure a poacher as, say, Falcao, but he’s every bit as assured. Granted, his all-round game is hugely beneficial to his goals record—a significant proportion are scored following dribbles, even when beating a single opponent. Some follow one-twos; his precise passing and his incredible acceleration are key attributes in that respect.

Besides, being a great poacher isn’t simply about the physical act of finishing. It’s about movement in the box, and the ability to take split-second decisions about where to run, how to position yourself. Watch Pippo Inzaghi for a season, and it was amazing how many fortunate tap-ins he scored. Watch him over five seasons, and it happened so regularly, you realized it wasn’t luck.

Messi has that knack. He also has an incredible ability to stop moving, which might seem like a questionable virtue, but it’s wonderfully handy—he can charge towards goal, force an opponent up to their maximum speed, and then stop. Just like that. It forces opponents and teammates to continue their momentum while he is standing still, poised to strike. Maybe it’s simply great reactions, but it seems more of a physical thing.

Finally, of course, there’s the finishing itself, which barely needs any explanation or discussion other than to say that his goalscoring record hasn’t yet been fully appreciated. Ronaldo’s 34 in 37 for Barcelona in 1996/97 was legendary; Messi scored 50 in 37 last year. Yes, that’s with the benefit of a fantastic team behind him, plus a wildly imbalanced league, but it’s still an klix record that may not be surpassed for decades.

Messi the Passer

This is Messi’s most underrated quality. It’s natural, of course, to highlight his other areas. It’s more spectacular to beat an opponent, and it’s more meaningful to score. If you want to admire Barcelona’s passing, you go to Xavi Hernandez for short, reliable distribution that sets the tempo of the game You pinpoint Andres Iniesta for a perfectly-weighted through-ball.

But Messi’s passing quality—or, specifically, his ability to play penetrative passes—is equally as impressive. It’s part of the reason he ended up in the ‘false nine’ role, and why Barcelona were so successful under Guardiola with that system. Messi’s ability to squeeze passes between opposition full-back and centre-back, into the path of Pedro Rodriguez and David Villa, was crucial to Barca’s success.

When Sergio Batista attempted to replicate Barcelona’s style for Argentina’s 2011 Copa America campaign, the key instruction was for the wide forwards to make those same runs, in order to get the best from Messi’s passing. The focus wasn’t on his dribbling, or even his finishing, but his distribution. Messi often came extraordinarily deep to receive the ball, deeper than the two opposition holding players. He simply became a creative midfielder. His passes were generally excellent, but the only player who understood the wide role in a positional sense, Ezequiel Lavezzi, finished poorly. If only Messi was on the end of the passes, too.

This only takes into consideration the passes he plays within his specific role. Watch Messi warming up before matches, punting 50-yard balls to Alves, and it’s clear his long-range passing is exquisite; every time, the ball drops perfectly at the Brazilian’s feet. Even more impressively, he’s tremendously accurate with his weaker right foot. He’s left-footed, but he’s not purely left-footed.

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As a teenager I played football with a classmate named Steven, who went onto play at a decent standard in the English football pyramid. He was so superior to everybody else involved in our Friday afternoon matches that we were forced to restrict his movement. He played as a holding midfielder, and so he wasn’t allowed outside his own half. Bizarrely, he and his side accepted the request, safe in the knowledge he remained the best player on the pitch, and the game was more balanced.

Messi won’t encounter such constraints, but I’d love to restrict his movement for three separate matches. First, I’d let him operate only in the final third, to showcase his shooting. Second, he’d have to stick to one flank, to highlight his dribbling. Third, I’d restrict him to the centre of midfield. to demonstrate his passing.

In three completely different roles, I’m confident he’d remain Barcelona’s key player. And that, in a roundabout way, shows why Messi is so devastating: he is three world-class players combined.

Al je meni "dribbles" kao statistička kategorija paglu skroz... JJ Okocha je na SP 1998. svakom Dancu svezao kičmu u čvor bar jednom, a Nigerija je izgubila 4-1 Da ne govorim da je totalno subjektivno šta neko računa kao dribling.

ultima_palabra wrote:Al je meni "dribbles" kao statistička kategorija paglu skroz... JJ Okocha je na SP 1998. svakom Dancu svezao kičmu u čvor bar jednom, a Nigerija je izgubila 4-1 Da ne govorim da je totalno subjektivno šta neko računa kao dribling.

slazem se. brojanje driblova je postalo popularno u zadnje vrijeme. ni ja ne razumijem tacno sta ce kvalifikuje kao dribling. da li je jedan dribling kada prodjes 3 igraca od jednom ili su to 3 driblinga. mada je svaki beskoristan ako se poslije izgubi lopta.
sto se messija tice, od 89 barcinih golova, ucestvovao je u 69% istih. (strijelac, asistent i desetak golova u kojima je igrao vaznu ulogu). to je bitnija statistika, mada je lijepo za oci i dusu gledati kako nize igrace.

ultima_palabra wrote:Al je meni "dribbles" kao statistička kategorija paglu skroz... JJ Okocha je na SP 1998. svakom Dancu svezao kičmu u čvor bar jednom, a Nigerija je izgubila 4-1 Da ne govorim da je totalno subjektivno šta neko računa kao dribling.

okochini driblinzi i trikovi su bili uglavnom beskorisni... messijevi nisu i to je ono ustvari sto mu daje prednost u odnosu na ostale

Dribble (Successful Dribble)
- Taking on an opponent and successfully making it past them whilst retaining the ball

Dribbled
- Being dribbled past by an opponent without winning a tackle

Čisto ko suza.

5 0 5 wrote:

ultima_palabra wrote:Al je meni "dribbles" kao statistička kategorija paglu skroz... JJ Okocha je na SP 1998. svakom Dancu svezao kičmu u čvor bar jednom, a Nigerija je izgubila 4-1 Da ne govorim da je totalno subjektivno šta neko računa kao dribling.

slazem se. brojanje driblova je postalo popularno u zadnje vrijeme. ni ja ne razumijem tacno sta ce kvalifikuje kao dribling. da li je jedan dribling kada prodjes 3 igraca od jednom ili su to 3 driblinga. mada je svaki beskoristan ako se poslije izgubi lopta.
sto se messija tice, od 89 barcinih golova, ucestvovao je u 69% istih. (strijelac, asistent i desetak golova u kojima je igrao vaznu ulogu). to je bitnija statistika, mada je lijepo za oci i dusu gledati kako nize igrace.

Ćiro Blažević jednom reče da ti možeš složit ne znam kakvu taktiku ali kad ti Messi prođe dvojicu-trojicu i otvori si prostor onda možeš samo piiiiiiiip.... Kako to samo Ćiro slikovito objasni ... Jozo je provo mnogo besanih noći u smišljanju taktike koja će neutralisat tu Messievu osobinu da napravi višak prolaskom nekoliko igrača.
Plesanje i skakutanje oko lopte, besmisleni driblinzi isl. nemaju nikakve svrhe osim za raju koja gleda utakmicu .... Ali Messi dribla u velikoj većini slučaja iz razloga da napadne na gol protivnika. Prolaskom si stvara prostor da li za udarac ili asistenciju.
Jedno vrijeme bila je aktivna priča onih koji ga ne vole da mu zamjeraju što kao "ne igra atraktivno", "nema vica" u njegovoj igri ... Jordan je u svom najuspješnijem dijelu karijere, kad je počeo osvajati titule, skoro prestao s atraktivnim potezima i spektakularnim zakucavanjima isl. Čisto trpanje i igra za pobjedu.

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Messi ovo, Messi ono, Messi driblinzi, Messi genije....zezam se ba, Leo je fakat fenomen

Kontam, samo da podsjetim malo na neprevazidjenog majstora, od kojeg je i Leo dosta naucio

Analiza zadnje tekme:

http://www.totalbarca.com/2015/opinion- ... barcelona/

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