Politicko desavanje u BiH (all inklusive)

[madridist]

[webby-x]

HDZ ne može imati monopol nad hrvatskim glasom, a oni koji pristaju na to, svjesno ili nesvjesno rade na Trećem.

Monopol nad hrvatskim pozicijama treba imati onaj
kome Hrvati daju glasove na izborima, to može biti i SDP
ako osvoji značajan broj glasova.
HDZ nema nikakve veze sa time.
To što SDp nema nikakve šanse među Hrvatima je
njihov problem, a ne problem Hrvata.

[Skijaš]

nisi li se ti zalagao za politiku -što gore, to bolje-, i intervenciju eu?

Rekao sam da treba prestati sa popuštanjem te da će to dovesti do uplitanja međunarodne zajednice. Što se tiče ove rezolucije, ne radi se o uplitanju, uplitanje je kada te neko sankcioniše. Rezolucija je bilo svakakvih i sa svih strana.

[Skijaš]

HDZ ne može imati monopol nad hrvatskim glasom, a oni koji pristaju na to, svjesno ili nesvjesno rade na Trećem.

Monopol nad hrvatskim pozicijama treba imati onaj
kome Hrvati daju glasove na izborima, to može biti i SDP
ako osvoji značajan broj glasova.
HDZ nema nikakve veze sa time.
To što SDp nema nikakve šanse među Hrvatima je
njihov problem, a ne problem Hrvata.

Ja govorim o monopolu, nije smetnja da HDZ na osnovu rezultata koje je imao imenuje značajnu većinu hrvatskog kadra, ne može sve jer ako kažem da se slažem s tim, ja sam taj koji se bori protiv stvaranja i jačanja multietničkih stranaka.

[webby-x]

ne može sve jer ako kažem da se slažem s tim, ja sam taj koji se bori protiv stvaranja i jačanja multietničkih stranaka.

Nisi ti tu da govoriš koliko će koja hrvatska stranka
popunjavati hrvatskih pozicija. I ja se slažem da ne bi trebao
sve pozicije HDZ, ima i HDZ90 barem jednu trećinu pozicija.

[Saurman]

HDZ90 je bio u koaliciji s HSP a onda prebjegao u okrilje HDZ-u. Ako se neko sjeca dešavanja iz sada već davne 2010.

[Yug]

@skijas uz duzno postovanje,ali ti si ovde bezbroj puta postavljao razne rezolocije Evropskog parlamenta.Ok,evo slazem se i Ja sa tobom,one nisu obavezujuce za nezavisnu i suverenu BiH.

[radostan dan]

jeS, samo su mu te odgovarale, a ove su neobavezujuće...

[Co0l]

A koje su to centralisticke snage u toj rezoluciji?

[Saurman]

A koje su to centralisticke snage u toj rezoluciji?

SNSD. Manji bh. entitet je previše centraliziran. Istočna Bosna i istočna Hercegovina su svjedoci negativnim aspektima toga!

[glockov kolac]

A koje su to centralisticke snage u toj rezoluciji?

U rezoluciji 1024x768

[radostan dan]

A koje su to centralisticke snage u toj rezoluciji?

rastegljiv termin, do sledećeg oglašavanja eu...

[Yug]

A koje su to centralisticke snage u toj rezoluciji?

Ubrzo cemo saznati,mozda i ove godine

[Co0l]

A i pretpostavio sam da se samo laprda bez da se zna o cemu

[Yug]

A i pretpostavio sam da se samo laprda bez da se zna o cemu

(Procitati pod 2)

2-pozdravlja šest tački sporazuma koji je postignut u Bruxellesu 1. oktobra 2013. godine, ali žali što centralističke snage opstruisu njegovu provedbu; naglašava da je važno slijediti NACELA FEDERALIZMA i legitimnog predstavljanja kako bi se osigurao put BiH-a u EU.

The European Parliament ,

– having regard to the Stabilisation and Association Agreement (SAA) between the European Communities and their Member States, of the one part, and Bosnia and Herzegovina (BiH), of the other part, signed on 16 June 2008 and ratified by all EU Member States and Bosnia and Herzegovina,

– having regard to the European Council conclusions of 19 and 20 June 2003 on the Western Balkans and to the annex thereto entitled ‘The Thessaloniki Agenda for the Western Balkans: moving towards European integration’,

– having regard to the Council conclusions of 11 December 2012 and 21 October 2013 on Bosnia and Herzegovina,

– having regard to the Commission communication of 16 October 2013 entitled ‘Enlargement Strategy and Main Challenges 2013-2014’ (COM(2013)0700), accompanied by Commission Staff Working Document of 16 October 2013 entitled ’Bosnia and Herzegovina: 2013 Progress Report’ SWD(2013)0415 ,

– having regard to its previous resolutions, in particular those of 23 May 2013 on the 2012 Progress Report on Bosnia and Herzegovina(1) and of 22 November 2012 on Enlargement: policies, criteria and the EU’s strategic interests(2) ,

– having regard to Rule 110(2) of its Rules of Procedure,

A. whereas the EU continues to be strongly committed to a sovereign and united BiH and to the country’s membership prospects;

B. whereas the complex and inefficient institutional architecture deriving from Annex 4 of the Dayton Agreement, as well as the inaction of the BiH political leaders and their inability to compromise, have continued to have a negative impact on the country’s capacity to progress towards the EU and to improve citizens’ lives; whereas constitutional reform towards a functioning and inclusive democratic state is urgently needed;

C. whereas the prospect of EU membership has been offered to Bosnia and Herzegovina as a single country;

D. whereas a new dynamic and respect vis-à-vis citizens and international obligations are required to prevent renewed deadlock in the run-up to the October 2014 general elections;

E. whereas widespread corruption, very high unemployment and a lack of future prospects for BiH citizens continue to seriously hamper socio-economic and political developments in the country;

F. whereas cooperation with other countries in the region in a good neighbourly spirit is a prerequisite for peaceful coexistence and reconciliation within BiH and the South East European region;

General considerations

1. Is deeply concerned at the continuing lack of common vision displayed by the political leaders of the country’s three ethnic communities; urges the political groups at all levels of power in the country to step up cooperation and dialogue in order to overcome existing disputes with the aim of achieving progress on the reform path and improving the lives of BiH citizens; calls for civil society to be more involved in efforts to reform the country;

2. Welcomes the six-point agreement reached in Brussels on 1 October 2013, but deplores the obstruction of its implementation by centralist forces; stresses the importance of following the principles of federalism and legitimate representation in order to ensure BiH’s path;

3. Calls for a shift away from the nationalist and ethnocentric rhetoric coming from the leadership of the three constitutive peoples in BiH; condemns all kinds of segregation and discrimination on religious or ethnic grounds in a country;

4. Urges political leaders to focus on implementing the Road Map of the High Level Dialogue, thus making it possible to meet the requirements that would enable the SAA to come into force;

5. Urges the governments and competent authorities to strengthen the efficiency and functionality of their institutions and to establish an effective EU coordination mechanism to ensure the harmonised transposition and enforcement of the EU acquis throughout the country in the interests of the overall prosperity of its citizens; in this context, calls on them to ensure that they can speak with one voice at state level; underlines the fact that, without such a mechanism, the EU accession process will remain deadlocked; calls on all political parties to work towards improving political dialogue and enhancing political culture;

6. Reminds the Commission that EU enlargement goes beyond a mere transfer of the EU acquis and must be based on a true and comprehensive commitment to European values; calls for continued EU engagement with the BiH leaders and a rethinking of the EU’s approach towards BiH, given the stalling of progress towards EU candidate status compared with the progress being made by other countries in the region; urges the international community, the European Council, and the Member States in particular, to step up efforts to foster consensus among BiH political leaders to move forward with constitutional reform and EU-related reforms; calls on the next Vice-President / High Representative and the Enlargement Commissioner to make BiH a central priority following the appointment of the next Commission in 2014; points, in this regard, to the important role and engagement of the EU Delegation and the EU Special Representative in Bosnia and Herzegovina;

7. Invites the Commission to further strengthen efforts to facilitate an agreement on the implementation of the Sejdić-Finci ruling guaranteeing equal rights for all constituent peoples and citizens, and to be instrumental in implementing the objectives of the EU agenda, including a functional system of good governance, democratic development and economic prosperity and respect for human rights;

8. Asks the EU’s Heads of State and Government and Foreign Ministers to strengthen their personal commitment to the country;

9. Invites the authorities to meet the klix objectives and conditions for the closure of the Office of the High Representative, so as to allow greater local ownership and responsibility; underlines the fact that the dissolution of the Office of the High Representative can be considered only when all the conditions have been met;

10. Is deeply concerned that a four-year-long disagreement between political leaders led the Council of Europe to initially consider suspending the country’s right of representation in the organisation if no substantial progress was made on the implementation of the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) judgment before the elections; stresses that the legitimacy of the 2014 elections for the Presidency and the House of Peoples of BiH will be questioned if the ECHR judgment is not implemented;

11. Reiterates that constitutional reform remains key to transforming BiH into an effective and fully functional state; urges the Federation to consider concrete proposals in this regard, including the merger of some cantons and the redistribution of competences, in order to simplify its complex institutional structure, ensure a more balanced representation of all constituent people and citizens, eliminate ethnic discrimination and make the state more functional, less expensive and more accountable to its citizens; invites all political parties to take part in this process in a constructive and open manner and to make use of the advice and guidance that the Venice Commission can provide during this process; welcomes and supports the efforts of civil society organisations to influence the constitutional reform process;

12. Welcomes the smooth running and completion of the enumeration phase of the first population and housing census since 1991; calls on the responsible authorities to ensure that the census remains a statistical exercise and that it complies with international standards; urges all the competent authorities not to politicise a census whose purpose is to provide objective socio-economic data;

13. Is seriously concerned that disputes about the distribution of competences are impeding EU financial assistance; regrets, but fully supports, the Commission decision to cancel projects under the Instrument for Pre-accession Assistance-I (IPA-I); is concerned that inaction may have implications for the allocation of millions of euros of EU funds for political and socio-economic development under IPA-II;
Yug

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[sanjin_1]

HDZ ne može imati monopol nad hrvatskim glasom, a oni koji pristaju na to, svjesno ili nesvjesno rade na Trećem.

Monopol nad hrvatskim pozicijama treba imati onaj
kome Hrvati daju glasove na izborima, to može biti i SDP
ako osvoji značajan broj glasova.
HDZ nema nikakve veze sa time.
To što SDp nema nikakve šanse među Hrvatima je
njihov problem, a ne problem Hrvata.

Ne postoje Hrvatski glasovi, nikad nisu postojali i nikad neće postojati. Postoji samo/isključivo glas građana dvije izborne jedinice. Tako će i ostati koliko god se vi koprcali u glibu u koji ste sami upali.
Presedan je napravljen i ozvaničen. Tu više nikad nema promjena jer se nema vremena bitisati banalnim stvarima.

[sanjin_1]

Jadni kockoglavi. Opet grlom u jagode. Ističu centralističke snage, a zanemaruju separatističke koje su takoder osudene. Zanemaruju činjenicu da se federalizacija ne odnosi na etnoteritorijalizaciju, koja je takoder osudena.


Ne samo da je Packova rekla da ima previše kantona, ona je rekla da zamišlja federalizaciju po uzoru na Njemačku i Austriju. U rezoluciji se takoder nigdje spominje da Hrvati trebaju dobiti svoj TV kanal.


Krivac za nesprovedbu presude je čović jer stalno traži više. A vremena bošnjačkog popuštanja i ustupanja su prošla. Za kompromis i oni drugi moraju nešto ustupiti, inače nije kompromis.


A na habe forumu delirijum. Treći samo što nije uspostavljen, krunidba stožernika najstožernije stranke u legitimnih samo što nije počela u najstolnijem st0lnogradu, zapadnom Mostaru iza Bulevara, poznatijeg kao čimilići. Likuju, čak navijaju da se Bošnjaci što više pobiju i što više samounište. O vrijedanju da ne govorim. Istovremeno se nadaju da će sada Bošnjaci u Briselu morati pristati na sve. Grdno se varaju. Lukavi latini, ko vas nezna...

To im dođe kao utjeha, balonić sapunce koji prsne na prvom naletu vjetrića...nešto kao naprdivanje o Mostaru..i tako u krug dok se šačici huligančića ne digne neka stvar pa im zapale centralu HDZ-a..i to možeš mislit u stolnom gradu..

[Co0l]

A i pretpostavio sam da se samo laprda bez da se zna o cemu

(Procitati pod 2)

2-pozdravlja šest tački sporazuma koji je postignut u Bruxellesu 1. oktobra 2013. godine, ali žali što centralističke snage opstruisu njegovu provedbu; naglašava da je važno slijediti NACELA FEDERALIZMA i legitimnog predstavljanja kako bi se osigurao put BiH-a u EU.

The European Parliament ,

– having regard to the Stabilisation and Association Agreement (SAA) between the European Communities and their Member States, of the one part, and Bosnia and Herzegovina (BiH), of the other part, signed on 16 June 2008 and ratified by all EU Member States and Bosnia and Herzegovina,

– having regard to the European Council conclusions of 19 and 20 June 2003 on the Western Balkans and to the annex thereto entitled ‘The Thessaloniki Agenda for the Western Balkans: moving towards European integration’,

– having regard to the Council conclusions of 11 December 2012 and 21 October 2013 on Bosnia and Herzegovina,

– having regard to the Commission communication of 16 October 2013 entitled ‘Enlargement Strategy and Main Challenges 2013-2014’ (COM(2013)0700), accompanied by Commission Staff Working Document of 16 October 2013 entitled ’Bosnia and Herzegovina: 2013 Progress Report’ SWD(2013)0415 ,

– having regard to its previous resolutions, in particular those of 23 May 2013 on the 2012 Progress Report on Bosnia and Herzegovina(1) and of 22 November 2012 on Enlargement: policies, criteria and the EU’s strategic interests(2) ,

– having regard to Rule 110(2) of its Rules of Procedure,

A. whereas the EU continues to be strongly committed to a sovereign and united BiH and to the country’s membership prospects;

B. whereas the complex and inefficient institutional architecture deriving from Annex 4 of the Dayton Agreement, as well as the inaction of the BiH political leaders and their inability to compromise, have continued to have a negative impact on the country’s capacity to progress towards the EU and to improve citizens’ lives; whereas constitutional reform towards a functioning and inclusive democratic state is urgently needed;

C. whereas the prospect of EU membership has been offered to Bosnia and Herzegovina as a single country;

D. whereas a new dynamic and respect vis-à-vis citizens and international obligations are required to prevent renewed deadlock in the run-up to the October 2014 general elections;

E. whereas widespread corruption, very high unemployment and a lack of future prospects for BiH citizens continue to seriously hamper socio-economic and political developments in the country;

F. whereas cooperation with other countries in the region in a good neighbourly spirit is a prerequisite for peaceful coexistence and reconciliation within BiH and the South East European region;

General considerations

1. Is deeply concerned at the continuing lack of common vision displayed by the political leaders of the country’s three ethnic communities; urges the political groups at all levels of power in the country to step up cooperation and dialogue in order to overcome existing disputes with the aim of achieving progress on the reform path and improving the lives of BiH citizens; calls for civil society to be more involved in efforts to reform the country;

2. Welcomes the six-point agreement reached in Brussels on 1 October 2013, but deplores the obstruction of its implementation by centralist forces; stresses the importance of following the principles of federalism and legitimate representation in order to ensure BiH’s path;

3. Calls for a shift away from the nationalist and ethnocentric rhetoric coming from the leadership of the three constitutive peoples in BiH; condemns all kinds of segregation and discrimination on religious or ethnic grounds in a country;

4. Urges political leaders to focus on implementing the Road Map of the High Level Dialogue, thus making it possible to meet the requirements that would enable the SAA to come into force;

5. Urges the governments and competent authorities to strengthen the efficiency and functionality of their institutions and to establish an effective EU coordination mechanism to ensure the harmonised transposition and enforcement of the EU acquis throughout the country in the interests of the overall prosperity of its citizens; in this context, calls on them to ensure that they can speak with one voice at state level; underlines the fact that, without such a mechanism, the EU accession process will remain deadlocked; calls on all political parties to work towards improving political dialogue and enhancing political culture;

6. Reminds the Commission that EU enlargement goes beyond a mere transfer of the EU acquis and must be based on a true and comprehensive commitment to European values; calls for continued EU engagement with the BiH leaders and a rethinking of the EU’s approach towards BiH, given the stalling of progress towards EU candidate status compared with the progress being made by other countries in the region; urges the international community, the European Council, and the Member States in particular, to step up efforts to foster consensus among BiH political leaders to move forward with constitutional reform and EU-related reforms; calls on the next Vice-President / High Representative and the Enlargement Commissioner to make BiH a central priority following the appointment of the next Commission in 2014; points, in this regard, to the important role and engagement of the EU Delegation and the EU Special Representative in Bosnia and Herzegovina;

7. Invites the Commission to further strengthen efforts to facilitate an agreement on the implementation of the Sejdić-Finci ruling guaranteeing equal rights for all constituent peoples and citizens, and to be instrumental in implementing the objectives of the EU agenda, including a functional system of good governance, democratic development and economic prosperity and respect for human rights;

8. Asks the EU’s Heads of State and Government and Foreign Ministers to strengthen their personal commitment to the country;

9. Invites the authorities to meet the klix objectives and conditions for the closure of the Office of the High Representative, so as to allow greater local ownership and responsibility; underlines the fact that the dissolution of the Office of the High Representative can be considered only when all the conditions have been met;

10. Is deeply concerned that a four-year-long disagreement between political leaders led the Council of Europe to initially consider suspending the country’s right of representation in the organisation if no substantial progress was made on the implementation of the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) judgment before the elections; stresses that the legitimacy of the 2014 elections for the Presidency and the House of Peoples of BiH will be questioned if the ECHR judgment is not implemented;

11. Reiterates that constitutional reform remains key to transforming BiH into an effective and fully functional state; urges the Federation to consider concrete proposals in this regard, including the merger of some cantons and the redistribution of competences, in order to simplify its complex institutional structure, ensure a more balanced representation of all constituent people and citizens, eliminate ethnic discrimination and make the state more functional, less expensive and more accountable to its citizens; invites all political parties to take part in this process in a constructive and open manner and to make use of the advice and guidance that the Venice Commission can provide during this process; welcomes and supports the efforts of civil society organisations to influence the constitutional reform process;

12. Welcomes the smooth running and completion of the enumeration phase of the first population and housing census since 1991; calls on the responsible authorities to ensure that the census remains a statistical exercise and that it complies with international standards; urges all the competent authorities not to politicise a census whose purpose is to provide objective socio-economic data;

13. Is seriously concerned that disputes about the distribution of competences are impeding EU financial assistance; regrets, but fully supports, the Commission decision to cancel projects under the Instrument for Pre-accession Assistance-I (IPA-I); is concerned that inaction may have implications for the allocation of millions of euros of EU funds for political and socio-economic development under IPA-II;
Yug

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Joined: 02/06/2013 15:52

I dalje mi nije jasno ko to zagovara centralizam.

[sanjin_1]

I dalje mi nije jasno ko to zagovara centralizam.

Saraj'vo..vidiš da ti piše odmah prije rečenice o etničkoj federalizaciji

[Co0l]

I dalje mi nije jasno ko to zagovara centralizam.

Saraj'vo..vidiš da ti piše odmah prije rečenice o etničkoj federalizaciji

To neka nova stranka haman...

[Hafis]

I dalje mi nije jasno ko to zagovara centralizam.

sad će to tebi kum objasniti u jednoj rečenici:
Nema federalizacije dok se ne uklone zagovornici centralizma, po naški rečeno unitarizma, a to su to zna svako dijete - dva HDZ-a.

[Co0l]

I dalje mi nije jasno ko to zagovara centralizam.

sad će to tebi kum objasniti u jednoj rečenici:
Nema federalizacije dok se ne uklone zagovornici centralizma, po naški rečeno unitarizma, a to su to zna svako dijete - dva HDZ-a.

Znaci jos uvijek se samo prodaje magla.To sam i mislio.

[seshat]

Pročitala sam nekoliko prvih stranica teme. I ništa nije onako kako se činilo prije 3 godine (nije to dug period). Prema tome u ovoj turbulentnoj zemlji nikada ne treba reći: nikada.

[chaba]

I dalje mi nije jasno ko to zagovara centralizam.

sad će to tebi kum objasniti u jednoj rečenici:
Nema federalizacije dok se ne uklone zagovornici centralizma, po naški rečeno unitarizma, a to su to zna svako dijete - dva HDZ-a.

Znaci jos uvijek se samo prodaje magla.To sam i mislio.

Sukob, u pravom smislu rijeci!
Da li mislite da sutra nece krenuti nesto sto mi (svi zajedno) ne mozemo kontrolirati?
Dobro se zAMISLITE?

[Danguba]

Sukob, u pravom smislu rijeci!
Da li mislite da sutra nece krenuti nesto sto mi (svi zajedno) ne mozemo kontrolirati?
Dobro se zAMISLITE?

...a Incko Batman