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#3801 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Britanska kontrola leta vraca dva Turska 737
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#3802 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Ne smije se zaboraviti da je MCAS do sada sigurno na hiljade puta uspjesno intervenisao, vjerovatno kod svakog uzleta Boeinga 737 Max. I ovaj je put MCAS uspjesno intervenisao (output), problem su bile pogresne informacije od sensora (input). Sto znaci da MCAS treba imati ugradjenu logiku za taj slucaj.

Uglavnom, hatljavo programirano, da su barem interno fault injection testove uradili..
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#3803 Re: Avionske nesrece

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FAA kaze da avion nema nikakvu gresku.
Ovdje nastavljaju da lete.
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#3804 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Pa i nema gresku, posto nemaju ugradjene redudantne sensore prije bih rekao da je greska u specifikaciji sistema.

Mada bolje receno citav avion je greska, jer je za normalan let obavezno treba pomoc softwera...
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#3805 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Mozda bi trebo FACE onog naseg pajsera u Boingu sto je zaduzan za aerodinamiku opet posjetit :mrgreen:
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#3806 Re: Avionske nesrece

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mO k3 wrote:
Bodkin wrote:
Ok :D
nije LH bio , nego germanwings
Ko je vlasnik GW?
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#3807 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Bobi wrote:Image

GB takodjer..Norveška...
Nije da im nije doslo kao budali samar, pogotovo zemljama gdje airbus ima proizvodnju :)
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#3808 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Kazu Francuzi mi tih aviona ni nemamo tako da nemamo sta zabranjivati :-D
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#3809 Re: Avionske nesrece

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insomnia78 wrote:Kazu Francuzi mi tih aviona ni nemamo tako da nemamo sta zabranjivati :-D
Pa nije bas samo tako, UK je zabranila i dolijetanje ovih modela iz drugih zemalja, pa je Norwegian morao da hin prizemlji, iako su juce rekli da im to ne pada na pamet, i da nastavljaju letiti.

Ali ako nemaju dje letiti jer ih ne primaju, hebiga... :run:

Apropos Tenerifa i nevracanja para za letove, naravno da moraju prebaciti putnike drugim nacinima prvom mogucom kombinacijom ili vratiti pare...
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#3810 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Bodkin wrote:
Bobi wrote:Image

GB takodjer..Norveška...
Nije da im nije doslo kao budali samar, pogotovo zemljama gdje airbus ima proizvodnju :)
Ameri su garant nesto sfuserili, al’ posto je ko zna koliko love u pitanju oni ce to gurati na silu, il’ dok ne poprave, il’ dok bas skroz ne zagrde.
Ja u to cudo ne sjedam.
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#3811 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Regulator bans
• The UK, France, Austria, Ireland and Malaysia have suspended the operation of all 737 Max models in their airspace. The German transport minister, Andreas Scheuer, told German broadcaster n-tv on Tuesday that German airspace was closed to Boeing 737 Max aircraft.

• Singapore and Australia’s regulators have suspended the operation of 737 Max planes flying into and out of the country.

• China’s regulator has ordered domestic airlines to suspend 737 Max 8 flights.

• Indonesia, South Korea and Oman have grounded their airlines’ 737 Max 8 jets for inspections.

• The US has said the plane is airworthy and does not need to be grounded.

Airlines that have grounded the planes

These airlines have either grounded their own planes or been told to do so by the relevant civil aviation authority:

9 Air

Aerolíneas Argentinas

Aeromexico

Air China

China Development Bank

China Eastern Airlines

China Southern Airlines

Eastar Jet

Ethiopian Airlines Group

Garuda Indonesia

GOL Transportes Aéreos

Hainan Airlines

Lion Air

Malaysia Airlines

Norwegian Air Shuttle

Shandong Airlines

Shenzhen Airlines

TUI Travel

Xiamen Airlines


Airlines continuing to operate the Boeing 737 Max
These airlines are still operating the 737 Max, though flights will be affected by airspace and airport bans:

Air Canada

Air Italy

American Airlines

Fiji Airways

Flydubai

Icelandair

LOT Polish Airlines

S7

SCAT Airlines

SilkAir

Smartwings

Southwest Airlines

SpiceJet

Turkish Airlines

WestJet Airlines
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#3812 Re: Avionske nesrece

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ne znam sta je, ali sumnjam i da FAA zna 1000% da nije do aviona.
ovo se oni sada malo vade jer su nedavno izdali dozvolu za let ovom avionu pa da se ne sramote i da ne povlace odluku jer su onda upitne sve njihove dozvole i inspekcije. a u medjuvremenu se nadaju da se nijedan nece srusiti u skorije vrijeme dok se nesto konkretnije ne sazna. ali ako rokne e onda su bas najebali. ne bi se ja kocko. ali evo valjda su sada piloti naucili sta treba raditi ako je to stvarno uzork sto ste pomenuli na prethodnoj strani.
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#3813 Re: Avionske nesrece

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EU agencija banovala...šta čeka Putko :mrgreen: ?
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#3814 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Edin H. wrote:
Matzan wrote:

Onda bi aviin bio skuplji za 200$!
Nista onda :oops:
mogli su u kineza kupit za te pare citav kofer
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#3815 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Kuka sestra, trebala 23. putovat sa njom i htjela da otkaze rezervaciju, nece nista para da joj vrate, vec 2 dana se svadja ali ne daju joj pare i Bog. Na kraju ce morat da sjedne u ovo cudo :lol:
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#3816 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Fudo387 wrote:
Bodkin wrote:
Bobi wrote:Image

GB takodjer..Norveška...
Nije da im nije doslo kao budali samar, pogotovo zemljama gdje airbus ima proizvodnju :)
Ameri su garant nesto sfuserili, al’ posto je ko zna koliko love u pitanju oni ce to gurati na silu, il’ dok ne poprave, il’ dok bas skroz ne zagrde.
Ja u to cudo ne sjedam.
Nisu sfuserili nego je cisti software. Mislim da ce jako brzo neki dodatak izbaciti da “isprave”. A evropljani trljaju ruke. Glavni konkurent a320 neo i mozda najprofitabilnija klasa
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#3817 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Zna Bosnjo dje je saraf sto drzi nebo
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#3818 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Jimmy McNulty wrote:Kuka sestra, trebala 23. putovat sa njom i htjela da otkaze rezervaciju, nece nista para da joj vrate, vec 2 dana se svadja ali ne daju joj pare i Bog. Na kraju ce morat da sjedne u ovo cudo :lol:
S kim ?
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#3819 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Ethiopian Airlines plane had "flight control problems," airline CEO says

US and Canada are the only two nations still flying a substantial number of Boeing 737 MAX 8s.

The FAA and Boeing both say a software upgrade will give pilots greater control over plane in case problems emerge with the planes' safety systems. That fix is due in April.

:-) :-)
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#3820 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Bobi wrote:
Jimmy McNulty wrote:Kuka sestra, trebala 23. putovat sa njom i htjela da otkaze rezervaciju, nece nista para da joj vrate, vec 2 dana se svadja ali ne daju joj pare i Bog. Na kraju ce morat da sjedne u ovo cudo :lol:
S kim ?
Pa sa ovim avionom.
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#3821 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Nanox7 wrote:Ethiopian Airlines plane had "flight control problems," airline CEO says

US and Canada are the only two nations still flying a substantial number of Boeing 737 MAX 8s.

The FAA and Boeing both say a software upgrade will give pilots greater control over plane in case problems emerge with the planes' safety systems. That fix is due in April.

:-) :-)
User doc je samo na engleskom, nije vic :)
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#3822 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Jimmy McNulty wrote:
Bobi wrote:
Jimmy McNulty wrote:Kuka sestra, trebala 23. putovat sa njom i htjela da otkaze rezervaciju, nece nista para da joj vrate, vec 2 dana se svadja ali ne daju joj pare i Bog. Na kraju ce morat da sjedne u ovo cudo :lol:
S kim ?
Pa sa ovim avionom.
Koji kontinent, koja kompanija? Moze traziti drugi let uz neku manju doplatu ako je Amerika. Naravno na kojem nije ovaj avion.
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#3823 Re: Avionske nesrece

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512MB wrote:
Nanox7 wrote:Ethiopian Airlines plane had "flight control problems," airline CEO says

US and Canada are the only two nations still flying a substantial number of Boeing 737 MAX 8s.

The FAA and Boeing both say a software upgrade will give pilots greater control over plane in case problems emerge with the planes' safety systems. That fix is due in April.

:-) :-)
User doc je samo na engleskom, nije vic :)
A piloti su inace slabi s engleskim. Ono kad avion iz kine sleti u Pariz oni komuniciraju na Francuskom
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#3824 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Bodkin wrote: Glavni konkurent a320 neo i mozda najprofitabilnija klasa
Neo je imao problema sa motorima sa PW1100G-JM motorima.
Ne znam da li je to otklonjeno.

https://www.aviatica.rs/airbus-stopirao ... a-a320neo/

U svakom slucaju prednost dajem Boeingu, a greske svima mogu da se dese.
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#3825 Re: Avionske nesrece

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drndalo wrote:
Apropos Tenerifa i nevracanja para za letove, naravno da moraju prebaciti putnike drugim nacinima prvom mogucom kombinacijom ili vratiti pare...
A zasto bi morali ako jos nije izdata naredba o ne letenju tih aviona?
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