silver testelone wrote:Nedavno na fakultetu se sretoh sa Čebiševljevim (ne znam više ni da li se piše ovako) filterima i sl... nebitno... Eh kako se to sad piše... U starijim jugoslavenskim knjigama prezime lika se piše Čebišev, a pridjev koji označava da mu nešto pripada Čebiševljev... Međutim, u novijoj literaturi, ima svega, do neprepoznatljivosti transliterirano (valjda se tako kaže), kao dole što je navedeno s wikipedije... Kako je sad najbolje i kad je najmanja greška aproksimacije?
takođe viđam po literaturi i po meni potpuno netačne stvari, gdje npr. ako se čovjek zove Čebišev, njegov filter se zove Čebišev filter, a ne Čebiševljev... il npr. Čovjek se zove Bairstow, a njegov numerički metod se negdje piše Bairstowljev, negdje Berstovljev, a negdje Berstov metod, pri čemu mi je ovo zadnje najnelogičnije
Pafnuty Lvovich Chebyshev (Russian: Пафну́тий Льво́вич Чебышёв, IPA: [pɐfˈnutʲɪj ˈlʲvovʲɪt͡ɕ t͡ɕɪbᵻˈʂof]) (May 16 [O.S. May 4] 1821 – December 8 [O.S. November 26] 1894)[1] was a Russian mathematician. His name can be alternatively transliterated as Chebychev, Chebysheff, Chebyshov, Tschebyshev, Tchebycheff, or Tschebyscheff.
Negdje na temi o matematici sam okačio ovu pjesmu:
Weep for the mathematicians
Posterity acclaims:
Although we know their theorems
We cannot spell their names.
Forget the rules you thought you knew--
Henri Lebesgue has got no Q.
Although it almost rhymes with Birkhoff,
Two H's grace the name of Kirchhoff.
The Schwarz of inequality
And lemma too, he has no T.
The "distribution" Schwartz, you see
Is French, and so he has a T.
In Turing's name--no German, he--
An umlaut we should never see.
Hermann Grassmann--please try to
Spell both his names with 2 N's too.
If you should ever have to quote
A Harvard Peirce, be sure to note
He has the E before the I;
And so does Klein. Rules still apply
To Wiener: I precedes the E;
The same for Riemann, as you see.
But Weierstrass, you must agree,
Has it both ways, with EIE.
Fejér, Turán, Cesàro, Fréchet--
Let's make the accents go that way;
Don't lose the squiggly little bits;
They don't mark stress--they're diacrits.
And as for (Radon)-Nikodým,
Restore the accent, that's my dream.
But there is one I leave to you,
Whatever you may choose to do:
Put letters in or leave them out,
Garnish with accents round about,
Finish the name with -eff or -off:
There is no way to spell Чебышёв.
(R. P. Boas)
U našem jeziku se odomaćilo Čebišev, pridjev Čebišovljev, ali ja nemam ništa protiv Čebišov, pridjev Čebišovljev jer je tako i sam Pafnutij izgovarao svoje prezime. Što se Bairstowa tiče, treba biti konzistentan - ako se ostala imena prenose etimološki, tada po mom jezičkom osjećaju može Bairstowljev, ali ako se prenose fonetski, onda svakako Berstovljev.
