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ratata wrote:

abondanzieri wrote:David Villa

al iz penala

Plavih_11 wrote:

ratata wrote:

abondanzieri wrote:David Villa

al iz penala

A kako je ekipa Rubina dala go?

sumirprimus wrote:ii messsiiiiiii

Tomahawk11 wrote:http://sportske.jutarnji.hr/barcelona-j ... ti/892593/

omar little wrote:mene brine ova kriza realizacije. ne moze messi hetrik imat' svaku tekmu i sve im sam rjesavati. ni villa nije raspolozen uvijek. pedro k'o ivanisevic i wimbledon...ugusi se i pogubi kad je najvaznije. krkic mi nikad nije bio nesto posebno tako da njega nikad ne racunam. ako misle uzet' primeru ovim prosipanjem bodova nece tamo stici. real jeste dobio deportivo, jebes deportivo, fenjerasi, al' je ozbiljnije i vaznije da se uigravaju puno brze no prosle sezone. a, ako su prosle sezone uzeli 96 bodova i barci dahtali za vratom sta ce tek' onda ove biti...i kad ce vise guardiola nesto takticki iskemijat' protiv tvrdih ekipa?!?

omar little wrote:mene brine ova kriza realizacije. ne moze messi hetrik imat' svaku tekmu i sve im sam rjesavati. ni villa nije raspolozen uvijek. pedro k'o ivanisevic i wimbledon...ugusi se i pogubi kad je najvaznije. krkic mi nikad nije bio nesto posebno tako da njega nikad ne racunam. ako misle uzet' primeru ovim prosipanjem bodova nece tamo stici. real jeste dobio deportivo, jebes deportivo, fenjerasi, al' je ozbiljnije i vaznije da se uigravaju puno brze no prosle sezone. a, ako su prosle sezone uzeli 96 bodova i barci dahtali za vratom sta ce tek' onda ove biti...i kad ce vise guardiola nesto takticki iskemijat' protiv tvrdih ekipa?!?

omar little wrote:bome danas pravi test za barcu. xavi je pod upitnikom, villa i pedro aut a valencia u top formi. carpe diem.

End of an expensive era, but Barcelona's players prove priceless

Barça's members' assembly gave the club president Sandro Rosell the chance to settle a few old accounts – literally – with Joan Laporta



Posted by Sid Lowe Monday 18 October 2010 14.44 BST guardian.co.uk

Some €37.2m (£32.6m) lost on Zlatan Ibrahimovic, €24.35m on two players who've never played, and €7.5m on an Argentinian Soccer School where no one seems to be learning very much – still less graduating – plus €18m on land that's only worth €5.5m. And that's just the start. New car, caviar, four star? Pah, that's got nothing on this. That's not a Lear Jet, sunshine; this is a Lear Jet. Five of them, in fact. What's a spot of caviar compared to spending €8m on the Pizza Man, €262,000 on restaurants, and €576,000 a year on vol-au-vents, jamón Serrano and bits of pineapple on cocktail sticks? A figure that adds up to €20,000 per match, every match. And some particularly podgy presidents.

There's more, too. What's the point in buying you a football team, when a football team can buy you everything else? When it can spend €5.7m on private jets, €5.9m on a telly channel, and €53,000 on the chauffeurs' credit card – for drinks, cigars and perfume. Even though Pep Guardiola pisses the stuff for free. You've spent €656,000 on security, blown €3,000 a month on giving your lover a job, and splashed €90,000 for tickets to go and see Bono. That's Bono, the Irish singer named after a hearing aid, not José Bono, the president of the Spanish parliament, who's a Madrid fan anyway. €5,600 on luxury hotels in Dubai, €2.65m spying on directors, fans and journalists, and €1,514 for a night at the Shangri-La in Qatar. The hotel that doesn't actually exist.

It was time for the Barcelona president Sandro Rosell to settle a few old accounts. Quite literally. Time for Rosell to settle his account with the man he loves to hate, former partner and former Barcelona president Joan Laporta. Time too for Laporta to settle his account with FC Barcelona. Saturday morning's headlines declared it a "big day". It was "the biggest match for years", "historic". There was "all to play for". The outcome could go a long way to defining Barcelona's future.

Not because Barcelona were returning to Camp Nou where they had won only once in three games – and that was a wobbly 1-0 against Sporting Gijón. Not because Barcelona had only won four of their last 17 immediately after the international break. Not because David Villa was not fully fit or because Xavi Hernández's achilles heel is his achilles heels. Not because Villa was coming up against his former team. Not even because they were facing Valencia, the leaders – contenders for Barcelona's league title.

No. The "match" in question was the members' assembly, where Rosell was about to reveal the club's accounts. Over the last few weeks, the words Due and Diligence have entered the Catalan conscience; now they were about to find out exactly why in all its grizzly, titillating detail. Laporta departed Barcelona claiming that the club had finished 2009-10 with an €11m profit – and there's a lesson in caution there when it comes to trusting other clubs who present perfect figures – only for Rosell's audit, carried out by Deloitte and KPMG, to say that, in fact, Barcelona had lost €79.60m. A difference of €91.6m.

Worse still was the way in which the money had been lost by Laporta. "I don't know if anyone has actually taken money from the club," said the vice-president Javier Faus, handily sewing the idea, "but there's simply no justification for the spending."

But is that simple? Wasn't the security partly necessary for Laporta because he, unlike most presidents, confronted Barcelona's ultras and received death threats in return? Keirrison and Henrique might not have played, but how many clubs have wasted money on players? Rosell described Ibrahimovic as the worst piece of business in the club's history, but wasn't Guardiola behind that? Pizza Man Mino Raiola might have taken €8m on the Ibrahimovic deals, but as a percentage the figure is not unusual – and it's less than a certain other agent made at a certain other club. And how much do big clubs normally spend on match-day hospitality for visiting VIPs, plus events and gifts for sponsors?

Laporta, who wasn't allowed to attend the assembly – one of the reasons he says he will seek to have the decision overturned – accused Rosell for having it in for him. Which he has. He accused the media and political parties of trying to destroy him. Which they might well have been doing. But still, the figures were damning. In terms of his legacy, especially. And not just because Barcelona have announced "austerity" as their economic policy for the next 12 months.

Laporta came to power promising to sign David Beckham. He failed but he has been the most successful president in their history. He defended Frank Rijkaard and signed Guardiola when fans and media – who have developed selective amnesia – wanted José Mourinho. Guardiola won six trophies. For the first time there was consensus – on the pitch at least. This summer's presidential elections were bizarre: never mind the bombastic signings and big promises, every time a candidate was asked anything about his plans for the team he mumbled: "Erm, I'd have to ask Pep."

But if that was Laporta's footballing legacy – and some wonder whether he can really be credited with it – the rest of his legacy has been rather different. There have been the lies, the Francoist brother-in-law, the spying, the politicking, the rants, the paranoia, the definition of the Madrid press as the "media cave", the airport striptease. The war with Rosell. And now the waste. Rather than the celebrations, the image projected of his presidency now is him in the nightclub Luz de Gas, huge cigar in one hand, even bigger bottle in the other, drenched in Cava. In all, Laporta had seen Barcelona lose €48.7m.

It was time to make him pay for it. Really pay for it. Rosell proposed a motion making Laporta legally responsible for those losses, something that has never been done before – not by Laporta when he took over from Joan Gaspart, not by Florentino Pérez when he took over from Ramón Calderón. He gave four reasons to vote yes and five good reasons to vote no. And then abstained – a move some have taken as a sign of neutrality and others have judged weak, dishonest and contradictory, that, in lieu of an klix policy, places a former president at the centre of the current president's identity and discourse. A former director accused him of thinking he was Pontius Pilate.

Not least because if Rosell abstained, he hoped others wouldn't. And they didn't. As afternoon became evening, with a winning margin of 29 votes – 468 in favour, 439 against and 113 abstentions – Barcelona voted to bring a civil action against Laporta. If a judge finds against him, he could be obliged to pay €48.7m. Perhaps he suspected as much: while still president Laporta had taken out an €84,000 security policy against his liability up to €25m. Not that the Barcelona media cared; at last they had got the end of an era they demanded.

The question was: was it the end of an era that the Madrid media wanted too? A year ago, one especially myopic Madridista announced the "fin de ciclo" only for Barcelona to win another league title and Madrid to win nothing at all. Might he actually be right this time?

For a while, it looked like it really might be. At half-time, with attention turned at last from the congress to Camp Nou, Barcelona were losing to Valencia. Madrid would go four points clear of them if they beat Malaga – which the later did, 4-1. They weren't just losing, either; Valencia were dominating. Intense, quick, playing high up the pitch, denying Barcelona time, they were 1-0 up, they should have been 2-0 and, unbelievably, had more possession. There appeared to be no way back. Some even dared mutter that dreaded word: crisis.

Then Barcelona reacted. And reacted brilliantly. "We got the ball back," Andrés Iniesta said. "We were ourselves again," added Dani Alves. Iniesta and Xavi combined for a classic Iniesta and Xavi move – slick, precise, and clever. Carles Puyol headed in a classic Puyol header – all Captain Caveman, hair flying, chest puffed out, violent, beautiful in its brutality. A wonderful second-half display – the best Barcelona have produced this season – tore Valencia apart and took them temporarily ahead of Madrid. It also confirmed a trend: they have dropped points against Herculés and Mallorca but Barcelona have beaten Athletic, Atlético and Valencia, plus Sevilla in the SuperCup. Madrid are yet to play a genuinely good side. "These guys are worth an empire – they're priceless," insisted Guardiola. Unlike everything else on Saturday.