Teretana
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- MOSALJOZE
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#3626 Re: Teretana
Evo da vam kazem koristim Animal Cuts vec 10dana.Sa 98 spao sam na 94 što je ODLIČNO.Teretana i Cardio.Naravno imam i prehranu tako da mi strašno ide

- Saian
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#3628 Re: Teretana
Ko nije citao ovo je iz eseja Henry-a Rollins-a, malo ga prenese na momente,To this day, when I work out I usually listen to ballads.
naI used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness. But when dealing with the Iron, one must be careful to interpret the pain correctly. Most injuries involving the Iron come from ego. I once spent a few weeks lifting weight that my body wasn't ready for and spent a few months not picking up anything heavier than a fork. Try to lift what you're not prepared to and the Iron will teach you a little lesson in restraint and self-control.
The Iron
by Henry Rollins
I believe that the definition of definition is reinvention. To not be like your parents. To not be like your friends. To be yourself. Completely.
When I was young I had no sense of myself. All I was, was a product of all the fear and humiliation I suffered. Fear of my parents. The humiliation of teachers calling me "garbage can" and telling me I'd be mowing lawns for a living. And the very real terror of my fellow students. I was threatened and beaten up for the color of my skin and my size. I was skinny and clumsy, and when others would tease me I didn't run home crying, wondering why.
I knew all too well. I was there to be antagonized. In sports I was laughed at. A spaz. I was pretty good at boxing but only because the rage that filled my every waking moment made me wild and unpredictable. I fought with some strange fury. The other boys thought I was crazy.
I hated myself all the time.
As stupid at it seems now, I wanted to talk like them, dress like them, carry myself with the ease of knowing that I wasn't going to get pounded in the hallway between classes. Years passed and I learned to keep it all inside. I only talked to a few boys in my grade. Other losers. Some of them are to this day the greatest people I have ever known. Hang out with a guy who has had his head flushed down a toilet a few times, treat him with respect, and you'll find a faithful friend forever. But even with friends, school sucked. Teachers gave me hard time. I didn't think much of them either.
Then came Mr. Pepperman, my advisor. He was a powerfully built Vietnam veteran, and he was scary. No one ever talked out of turn in his class. Once one kid did and Mr. P. lifted him off the ground and pinned him to the blackboard. Mr. P. could see that I was in bad shape, and one Friday in October he asked me if I had ever worked out with weights. I told him no.
He told me that I was going to take some of the money that I had saved and buy a hundred-pound set of weights at Sears. As I left his office, I started to think of things I would say to him on Monday when he asked about the weights that I was not going to buy. Still, it made me feel special. My father never really got that close to caring. On Saturday I bought the weights, but I couldn't even drag them to my mom's car. An attendant laughed at me as he put them on a dolly.
Monday came and I was called into Mr. P.'s office after school. He said that he was going to show me how to work out. He was going to put me on a program and start hitting me in the solar plexus in the hallway when I wasn't looking. When I could take the punch we would know that we were getting somewhere. At no time was I to look at myself in the mirror or tell anyone at school what I was doing. In the gym he showed me ten basic exercises. I paid more attention than I ever did in any of my classes. I didn't want to blow it. I went home that night and started right in.
Weeks passed, and every once in a while Mr. P. would give me a shot and drop me in the hallway, sending my books flying. The other students didn't know what to think. More weeks passed, and I was steadily adding new weights to the bar. I could sense the power inside my body growing. I could feel it.
Right before Christmas break I was walking to class, and from out of nowhere Mr. Pepperman appeared and gave me a shot in the chest. I laughed and kept going. He said I could look at myself now. I got home and ran to the bathroom and pulled off my shirt. I saw a body, not just the shell that housed my stomach and my heart. My biceps bulged. My chest had definition. I felt strong. It was the first time I can remember having a sense of myself. I had done something and no one could ever take it away. You couldn't say s--t to me.
It took me years to fully appreciate the value of the lessons I have learned from the Iron. I used to think that it was my adversary, that I was trying to lift that which does not want to be lifted. I was wrong. When the Iron doesn't want to come off the mat, it's the kindest thing it can do for you. If it flew up and went through the ceiling, it wouldn't teach you anything. That's the way the Iron talks to you. It tells you that the material you work with is that which you will come to resemble. That which you work against will always work against you.
It wasn't until my late twenties that I learned that by working out I had given myself a great gift. I learned that nothing good comes without work and a certain amount of pain. When I finish a set that leaves me shaking, I know more about myself. When something gets bad, I know it can't be as bad as that workout.
I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness. But when dealing with the Iron, one must be careful to interpret the pain correctly. Most injuries involving the Iron come from ego. I once spent a few weeks lifting weight that my body wasn't ready for and spent a few months not picking up anything heavier than a fork. Try to lift what you're not prepared to and the Iron will teach you a little lesson in restraint and self-control.
I have never met a truly strong person who didn't have self-respect. I think a lot of inwardly and outwardly directed contempt passes itself off as self-respect: the idea of raising yourself by stepping on someone's shoulders instead of doing it yourself. When I see guys working out for cosmetic reasons, I see vanity exposing them in the worst way, as cartoon characters, billboards for imbalance and insecurity. Strength reveals itself through character. It is the difference between bouncers who get off strong-arming people and Mr.Pepperman.
Muscle mass does not always equal strength. Strength is kindness and sensitivity. Strength is understanding that your power is both physical and emotional. That it comes from the body and the mind. And the heart.
Yukio Mishima said that he could not entertain the idea of romance if he was not strong. Romance is such a strong and overwhelming passion, a weakened body cannot sustain it for long. I have some of my most romantic thoughts when I am with the Iron. Once I was in love with a woman. I thought about her the most when the pain from a workout was racing through my body.
Everything in me wanted her. So much so that sex was only a fraction of my total desire. It was the single most intense love I have ever felt, but she lived far away and I didn't see her very often. Working out was a healthy way of dealing with the loneliness. To this day, when I work out I usually listen to ballads.
I prefer to work out alone.
It enables me to concentrate on the lessons that the Iron has for me. Learning about what you're made of is always time well spent, and I have found no better teacher. The Iron had taught me how to live. Life is capable of driving you out of your mind. The way it all comes down these days, it's some kind of miracle if you're not insane. People have become separated from their bodies. They are no longer whole.
I see them move from their offices to their cars and on to their suburban homes. They stress out constantly, they lose sleep, they eat badly. And they behave badly. Their egos run wild; they become motivated by that which will eventually give them a massive stroke. They need the Iron Mind.
Through the years, I have combined meditation, action, and the Iron into a single strength. I believe that when the body is strong, the mind thinks strong thoughts. Time spent away from the Iron makes my mind degenerate. I wallow in a thick depression. My body shuts down my mind.
The Iron is the best antidepressant I have ever found. There is no better way to fight weakness than with strength. Once the mind and body have been awakened to their true potential, it's impossible to turn back.
The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you're a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
This article originally appeared in Details Magazine
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Verocious
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#3629 Re: Teretana
Odlican tekst, hvala ti sto si ga podijelo
Vidi se da mu trening i teretana puno znace i da obozava zeljezo
Vidi se da mu trening i teretana puno znace i da obozava zeljezo
- Saian
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#3630 Re: Teretana
nemate na chemu, meni se svidio tekS', a i poklopio se otprilike s perspektivom koju ja imam na sticanje fizichke spremnosti, zamisli evo, hajpotetikli, zivot ti ovisi o tome da se uhvatis za nesto i svojim rukama dignes svoju tezinu, a ti ne mozes, pa propast u zemlju od bruke
, i fasovat jel hajpotetikli, plus zdraviji si, imam jednog profesora, 70 godina, co'ek trci 3, 4 polumaratona svake godine, pa jebote, kapa dole, pored njega takvog nemam se obraza zadihat trceci za autobusom, ha ja
- MedenoSrce
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#3631 Re: Teretana
@Sai nemo' sada vadione nego koliko dizes 
- Saian
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#3632 Re: Teretana
zavisi kakvog zhiranta namamim
jel ko probo ovaj TRX
http://www.trxtraining.com/
zvuchi zanimljivo, kazhu mornari na podmornicama koriste ove fore u nedostatku mjesta, a dizes samo svoju tezinu sto mi je masu dobro

ja sam do prije mjesec dana imao dan HIIT cardio (25 minuta, al oplachem na kraju
) i onda dan zheljeza, squats (ovo su cuchnjevi ja mislim, najjacha vjezhba ikad, idje, ako se radi pravilno), deadlifts (ovo ne znam kako se prevodi), pull-ups (ovo je razboj kod nas jel), benchpress, overhead press (ramena aj ges), zadnjih mjesec dana sam malo popustio, i u ovom kontekstu koristim "malo" u smislu potpuno
, al evo prije 3 dana sam se vratio u djir i nastavio s ovim, iz gud, zlostavljam se
, suit pein en staf 
jel ko probo ovaj TRX
http://www.trxtraining.com/
zvuchi zanimljivo, kazhu mornari na podmornicama koriste ove fore u nedostatku mjesta, a dizes samo svoju tezinu sto mi je masu dobro

ja sam do prije mjesec dana imao dan HIIT cardio (25 minuta, al oplachem na kraju
- burek_in_space
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#3633 Re: Teretana
Mrtvo dizanje.Saian wrote:deadlifts (ovo ne znam kako se prevodi)
- hamzah
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#3634 Re: Teretana
da vas pitam al neka mi neko odg ko se stvarno razumije nemojte mi pametovati
idem u teretanu vec 3. mjesec zbog problema sa kg. i skinuo sam do sad 15 ak kg znaci trening mi se sastoji od kardio 25.min( tu se sav prezojim),i radim ovamo tegove manje kilaze vise ponavljanja 6X15 otprilike
zanima me da li bih trebao poceti uzimati nesto od suplemenata jer bih trebao izgubiti jos cca 25kg?
i da li bih trebao promijeniti nacin treniranja iako se ovaj pokazao jako dobrim (momak koji radi mi je napisao program za svaki dan ,treniram 5X sedmicno)
unaprijed HVALA
idem u teretanu vec 3. mjesec zbog problema sa kg. i skinuo sam do sad 15 ak kg znaci trening mi se sastoji od kardio 25.min( tu se sav prezojim),i radim ovamo tegove manje kilaze vise ponavljanja 6X15 otprilike
zanima me da li bih trebao poceti uzimati nesto od suplemenata jer bih trebao izgubiti jos cca 25kg?
i da li bih trebao promijeniti nacin treniranja iako se ovaj pokazao jako dobrim (momak koji radi mi je napisao program za svaki dan ,treniram 5X sedmicno)
unaprijed HVALA
- adnansax
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#3635 Re: Teretana
Ako ti vec radi to kako treniras, ja nebih mijenjao..Mozda da malo rotiras neke vjezbe,ubacis neke nove, cisto da ti ne dosadi isto raditi non stop..hamzah wrote:da vas pitam al neka mi neko odg ko se stvarno razumije nemojte mi pametovati
idem u teretanu vec 3. mjesec zbog problema sa kg. i skinuo sam do sad 15 ak kg znaci trening mi se sastoji od kardio 25.min( tu se sav prezojim),i radim ovamo tegove manje kilaze vise ponavljanja 6X15 otprilike
zanima me da li bih trebao poceti uzimati nesto od suplemenata jer bih trebao izgubiti jos cca 25kg?
i da li bih trebao promijeniti nacin treniranja iako se ovaj pokazao jako dobrim (momak koji radi mi je napisao program za svaki dan ,treniram 5X sedmicno)
unaprijed HVALA
Vjerovatno si promijenio ishranu u tom periodu i ubacio vjezbanje pa se to vidi, sad dalje bi trebao nastaviti u tom ritmu, i od suplemenata po meni dovoljan ti je whey nakon treninga.
sretno
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rudy81
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#3636 Re: Teretana
ja trazim novi centar, sad mi je pravo skupo placati 70 km u importanneu... ima li neko prijedlog gdje ici na relaciji Grbavica-Kovacici do grada ?
hvala
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#3637 Re: Teretana
JOj sto volim sto zivim u manjem mjestu ... ovdje 30km vrhunska teretana 
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rudy81
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#3638 Re: Teretana
dje zivis? mozda mi se isplati i vozariti i placati clanarinuL00d wrote:JOj sto volim sto zivim u manjem mjestu ... ovdje 30km vrhunska teretana
- skafiskafsnjak
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#3639 Re: Teretana
U Jablanici
Mirze Teletovica teretana
Mirze Teletovica teretana
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rudy81
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#3640 Re: Teretana
sjoo Mirze, mog'o je jednu i u glavnom gradu da otvori 
- skafiskafsnjak
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#3641 Re: Teretana
Otvorio coek radi seberudy81 wrote:sjoo Mirze, mog'o je jednu i u glavnom gradu da otvori
To je ovdje skupo... namjerno stavio malo skuplje da ne bude guzva
- 4m3l
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#3642 Re: Teretana
Sta koristite od suplemenata ? Ima li neko kakav gainer preporuciti..
- adnansax
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#3643 Re: Teretana
Whey trenutno..od ponedjeljka nesto drugo u planu aBd...4m3l wrote:Sta koristite od suplemenata ? Ima li neko kakav gainer preporuciti..
a kao gejner: whey+zobene(samljevene)+banana+0,5l bezmasnog mlijeka..bolja verzija,bar meni..
- MOSALJOZE
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#3644 Re: Teretana
Ja brate evo koristim Animal Cuts čini mi se 15 dan skinuo 7 kila ako kontaš za definiciju naravno pri kraju mi je tako da mi nece vise trebati4m3l wrote:Sta koristite od suplemenata ? Ima li neko kakav gainer preporuciti..
ps:nije cilj da "budeš" na suplementima nego da ti oni pomognu i idemo dalje
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dobar,ti?
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#3645 Re: Teretana
jesi puno ishranu sredio, il izbacio samo hljebMOSALJOZE wrote:Ja brate evo koristim Animal Cuts čini mi se 15 dan skinuo 7 kila ako kontaš za definiciju naravno pri kraju mi je tako da mi nece vise trebati4m3l wrote:Sta koristite od suplemenata ? Ima li neko kakav gainer preporuciti..
ps:nije cilj da "budeš" na suplementima nego da ti oni pomognu i idemo dalje
- skafiskafsnjak
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#3646 Re: Teretana
e upravo to !!!! to je poenta, bar meni.MOSALJOZE wrote:Ja brate evo koristim Animal Cuts čini mi se 15 dan skinuo 7 kila ako kontaš za definiciju naravno pri kraju mi je tako da mi nece vise trebati4m3l wrote:Sta koristite od suplemenata ? Ima li neko kakav gainer preporuciti..
ps:nije cilj da "budeš" na suplementima nego da ti oni pomognu i idemo dalje
Da mi pomognu, sto fizicki i psihicki, da krenem, i picim dalje sam onda
- skafiskafsnjak
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#3647 Re: Teretana
sta predlazete za pocetak? malo bih da smrsam za pocetak i da mi olaksa u teeretani...
Neke proteine ili amino...?
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Neke proteine ili amino...?
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- adnansax
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#3648 Re: Teretana
Klasicni placebo..L00d wrote: Da mi pomognu, sto fizicki i psihicki, da krenem, i picim dalje sam onda
Ako ti trebaju suplementi da imas volje za teretanu, promijeni hobi podhitno..
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dobar,ti?
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#3649 Re: Teretana
Jesi probao hemorage? Ako nisi onda ne znas kako te taj suplement gura, jedes tegove po teretani..
- skafiskafsnjak
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#3650 Re: Teretana
joj sto ne volim ova pametovanja ...adnansax wrote:Klasicni placebo..L00d wrote: Da mi pomognu, sto fizicki i psihicki, da krenem, i picim dalje sam onda
Ako ti trebaju suplementi da imas volje za teretanu, promijeni hobi podhitno..
MOzda imam volje bez njih, ali ne dovoljno. Mozda zbog nekih drugih problema u zivotu ...
Bolje ti je odogovori nesto pametno, ako znas ... ako ne, suti .
