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a imas ono nesto sto treba imati da dajes svoje solidne zakljucke i izjave bez obavljene zadace...

pitanje je vremena, kada shvatis, bice ti tesko za prihvatiti, lose ces se osjecati. ili ti je sve ovo jednako bitno kao "sranje u Ruandi". ako je ovo drugo, zalim sto sam ikako ijedan komentar tvoj shvatio za ozbiljno, kao i svaciji, tako niskog i ne postenog razmisljanja...

_veleposlanik wrote:a imas ono nesto sto treba imati da dajes svoje solidne zakljucke i izjave bez obavljene zadace...

pitanje je vremena, kada shvatis, bice ti tesko za prihvatiti, lose ces se osjecati. ili ti je sve ovo jednako bitno kao "sranje u Ruandi". ako je ovo drugo, zalim sto sam ikako ijedan komentar tvoj shvatio za ozbiljno, kao i svaciji, tako niskog i ne postenog razmisljanja...

Ako griješim, moraću živjeti s tim.

Ti poradi na komunikaciji s drugima, i ne budi toliko arogantan da tvrdiš da znaš šta je u glavi sagovornika na osnovu nekoliko komentara na forumu, djeluje jako odbojno.

Sve ovo fino zvuci kako je izabran prvi afroamerikanac predsjednik, otac musliman iz Kenije a majke Amerikanka iz Kansasa,covjek svijeta kojeg ce i islamski narod gledati sa naklonoscu,covjek sa kojim svi mogu naci nekakvu povezanost i koji zraci optimizmom i prica upravo ono sto svi zele da cuju.
A razmislja li iko zbog cega su i republikanci zeljeli da on dodje na vlast !?
Prvo mu kao protukandidata postave covjeka od 72 godine, sa ratnom prosloscu,koji je spreman za novi rat sa Iranom i ozivljavanje "hladnog rata" sa Rusima koji veze nema sa ekonomijom, koji zeli da nastavi sa ratovima I Bushovom politikom iako su ankete pokazivale da je 70% Amerikanaca protiv toga i koji na kraju za podpredsjednicu izabere "Paris Hilton" koja ga je kostala glasova velikog broja konzervativaca i koja je imala velike sanse da na kraju postane predsjednik.Bush postao najomrzeniji predsjednik a oni stavljaju njegovu kopiju!
Demokrati i republikanci su izgleda postali jedna struja i nije bitno ko vlada ,Obamu gledam kao sredstvo i figuru koja im je potrebna za ispunjavanje vec zacrtanih ciljeva, samo o kakvim se ciljevima radi reci ce nam buducnost...

@tranquil: ali ti djelujes odbojno kada cijelu jednu covjeciju istinu strpas pod atributom "teorija zavjere" ili "kojekakvi Iluminati", dokazujuci svoj nivo poznavanja, rekao bih, zivota, koji nam je svima itekako bitan.

ne pokusavam da namecem niti omalovazavam, samo da probudim zelju za znanjem, da svako sebi dokaze kako jeste ili nije u pravu. ovo je toliko ozbiljno i veliko, stvarno se ne bih ovoliko zamarao da nije tako. moramo se probuditi, potrebno je, radi sviju nas, pa i mene licno, da svi znamo sta se desava u svijetu. zasto ne uzeti u razmatranje, po tebi, nevazecu verziju - a slazemo se da nam oficijelna nimalo ne odgovara i nije iskrena... zar zvuci fakat tako ne vjerovatno da svijetom vlada tesko zamisliva zavjera svih elita, i koje upravo sprovode posljednji korak ka ostvarenju svojih ciljeva? pa ima pisanih dokaza, dokumenata, rijeci vlastitih elita - aktera, video zapisa, historijskih cinjenica, vezivanje sa danasnjim svijetom... upravo zivimo najvaznija vremena za covjecanstvo, usudio bih se reci nakon otkrica Amerike. mozda izbor Obame, na neki nacin simbolizira tu historijsku vaznost...

jedino sto mogu ocekivati od ovog, jeste da narod bude spreman za nadolazece promjene. ne moras biti ekspert zavjera ni poznavati konkretno sve cinjenice, ali da nas nadolazece promjene ne uhvate "u gachama"... cilj je sasvim suprotan od arogancije ili odbojnosti...

zonbirile wrote: Znaš li da je Kenedi izgubio glavu pokušajući da im to oduzme

Mali off-topic
Ovog Kennedyja ko da su ubijali pa oživljavali, ubili ga zbog 100 razloga, te jer nije bio za rat u Vijetnamu, te jer je katolik, te jer je htio uzet FED-ove ovlasti...
Živo me zanima jesu li se sve interesne skupine udružile pa ga koknuli, jesu li ždrijebali čiji će ga čo'ek koknut, ko je platio metak (ili su ga masoni poklonili)...
I još nešto, ko što je netko dobro ranije, svi ovi koji pišu o ovim teorijama zavjere, spomuniju kak'e grupe ljudi sa super-ovlastima, biraju predsjednika SAD-a, biće i pobjednika Eurosonga i Operacije Trijumf, a opet nisu dovoljno moćni da spriječe svakakve šuše da ih otkrivaju na youtube-u. Ma daj...

JKonnys
Da si više obavješten,a manje prepotentan skontao bi da je poenta ubistva kENEDIJA ZAVJERA,KOJA JE TEŠKO DOKAZIVA,ALI ETO SVI ZA NJU ZNAJU.jOŠ KOJU DECENIJU I OTVORIĆE SE ARHIVE.iSTO JE SA BOINGOM OD 500 TONA KOJI JE ISPARIO U PENTAGONU.To više nije stvar vjerovanja,što se FED-a tiče to je centralna banka USA,zamisli da je kod nas drže Keljmendi,Gaši,Čelo.Znam reći češ oni nisu takvi,u pravu si sto puta su gori i vježbaju preko 100g.Stvar je trača mnogo šta,ali je činjenica da je ista ekipa finansirala Hitlera,pa i tokom rata,glavna veza bio dedo Prescot Bush.Francusku revoluciju i svaki drugi rat,bili su involirani i izašli još bogatiji.Uostalom,zar si slijep kraj očiju,mi vam pomažemo da drukčije mislite,a kada bi malo više se zainteresovali,sve bi bilo lakše.
EVO TEST PITANJE ZA SVE NEVJERNE TOME,KAKO TO AMERI DOĐOŠE U TRI DRVENJAKA I ZA 200G POKORIŠE PLANETU.

zonbirile wrote: EVO TEST PITANJE ZA SVE NEVJERNE TOME,KAKO TO AMERI DOĐOŠE U TRI DRVENJAKA I ZA 200G POKORIŠE PLANETU.

Puno radili, a malo se zamarali time tko upravlja svijetom...

Ma nista.

Latinica wrote:Ma nista.

Shto bih ja volio znati shta je pisalo prije preuredjivanja posta!

priznajmo obamu tek kad i on prizna makar jednu piramidu

RtrnOfSalisbury wrote:priznajmo obamu tek kad i on prizna makar jednu piramidu

Samo ostro.

burek_in_space wrote:
Shto bih ja volio znati shta je pisalo prije preuredjivanja posta!

Curiosity killed the burek & da yoghurt too.

Nista vazno, frfljala nesto.

Latinica wrote: Curiosity killed the burek & da yoghurt too.

Nista vazno, frfljala nesto.

Zar nije machku ubila?!

Damn! A bash sam htio novo prepucavanje na forumu!

Jonny
bravo,i nick ti je američki,pogrešno si skonto,jer ne znaš temu.Nemam ja ništa protiv njih,amer,ali znam pozadinu,uostalom pola tih je u Evropi.Ima jedan broj vas koji uporno svoje neznanje kriju iza tupave duhovitosti,ali ni slućajno ne iznesu svoj kontraargument,postave pitanje,kontrapitanje.Najveći je domet-a otkud ti znaš,nemoj prosipati pamet.Čovječe od takvih bježim sa posta na post.Imate brate sex forum,pa se ispucajite do mile volje.

zonbirile wrote:Jonny
bravo,i nick ti je američki,pogrešno si skonto,jer ne znaš temu.Nemam ja ništa protiv njih,amer,ali znam pozadinu,uostalom pola tih je u Evropi.Ima jedan broj vas koji uporno svoje neznanje kriju iza tupave duhovitosti,ali ni slućajno ne iznesu svoj kontraargument,postave pitanje,kontrapitanje.Najveći je domet-a otkud ti znaš,nemoj prosipati pamet.Čovječe od takvih bježim sa posta na post.Imate brate sex forum,pa se ispucajite do mile volje.

zonbirile, care, vidis da je ovo sizifov posao sa pojedincima. nego, da dam premijeru, za 11. septembar uskoro cete svi gledati na javnim TV servisima, poput Rusije a bogami i kod nas je bila jedna na FTV cini mi se. mozda kada TV kutija kaze da je bio namontiran eksploziv raja povjeruje...

_veleposlanik
ćao,mislim da je uzalud,jer ovako je lakše,ljudi bježe od drukčijeg,progresivnog,nepoznatog.To ih tjera da razmišljaju,a to boli,pa čovjek koji nije sposoban razviti svoje mišljenje,najbolje se osjeća u mnoštvu,krdu-oni imaju izgrađeno,modelirano mišljene koje je "normalno".Sve ostalo ruši njihove predstave,ne o svijetu,već o sebi u tom svijetu,a sve samo snage i uticaja tipa prdimahovina imaju u Bosni.Iste igre ispod stola iza paravana,javno im se smiju u lice,kradu,kradu i levate u ratu,samo je tamo veća bara,veće ajkule,a to njih ..ebe,to je ipak svijet,dobro naši,ali ono su....
Vrlo jednostavno,za sve i sve slične teme odgovori sebi --44 predsjednika sve bolji od boljeg pogotovu za svijet,a Amerika planetarna sila a svijet u urcu.
Za 200g od par hiljada doseljenika planetarna sila,sarkazam tipa bili vrijedni radili ostavi za ove naše sline na vlasti.
Naravno,ne obraćam se tebi _veleposlanik.

Ja jos cekam ovu propast svijeta koju nam je ljetos _veleposlanik najavio za kraj septembra

I svaki post isti, vi ste budale, slijepi pored ociju jer necete da vidite kako ja gledam. I u skoro svakom postu odustane od objasnjavanja nama hudnicima sa nekim rezigniranim tonom tipa "ne vrijedi vama vise govoriti, necu se vise ni truditi" da bi se odmah vratio i, kao da nikad nista nije rekao, nastavio vaziti.

Ja se samo nadam da ce jednom skupiti dovoljno principijelnosti i odrzati rjec kad kaze da ce prestati "objasnjavati"

otiđi na post" trebamo li razotkriti masone u bih" i pročitaj moje postove,ne pada mi ih na pamet opet pisati

Sto vas dvojica ashikujete (@veleposlanik i @zonbirile), pa si podilazite

Stroking each other's ego. Divno... supportive environment... folovi... support group...

Samo nije ovdje ni vrijeme ni mjesto... "bez cenzure" je malo vishe odgovarajucha okolina .

Postao sam ovo vech negdje drugo, ali me interesuje dali iko prepoznaje @zonbirile et al. u ovome:

10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes

1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always "sheep", patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.

2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length.

3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.

4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero's "cui bono?" (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle's "once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth". What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply "eliminate the impossible" (i.e. say the official account can't stand klix) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on "cui bono?" (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.

5. Inability to employ or understand Occam's Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.

6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad . Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.

7. Inability to withdraw. It's a rare day indeed when a conspiracy theorist admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by "swamping" - piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections sceptics make to the previous lot.

8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.

9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's “happened before”.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.

10. It's always a conspiracy. And it is, isn't it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question.

A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.





P.S. Sad @zonbirile ide i trazi sta znachi et al.

Evo ga josh jedan dobar:


Some common characteristics of paranoid conspiracy theorists include:
 They assume that they are right.

PCTs assume that their beliefs are correct and that those who don't see things the way they do have been duped or that they need to open their minds http://www.skeptics.org.uk/article.php? ... n_mind.php.

This stance is an argument from ignorance (see: argumentum ad ignorantiam http://www.skeptics.org.uk/explanation. ... antiam.php). They place the burden of proof firmly on their opponents; whose position is wrongly assumed to be to disprove the theories. In fact the PCTs' position does not change even if their theories are disproved: there's always a way of reaffirming their position.

There is usually little or no real evidence to back their theories. Instead, PCTs rely on retrospective analysis: logic and reason don't matter; everything can be twisted to fit the plot. Events are simply interpreted to match the theory.
 Their theories cannot be challenged.

PCTs do not treat their theories the way a historian or scientist treats theirs, which is to welcome challenges to their theory which will either strengthen it or refute/amend it.

PCTs vehemently oppose any challenges to their theories. The first line of defence is to issue personal attacks (see: ad hominem http://www.skeptics.org.uk/explanation. ... ominem.php) against their opponents. These are generally in the form of ridicule; their opponents not having the ability to see "the real truth".

The theories of PCTs are often unfalsifiable, such as: UFOs exist but the government is suppressing the evidence. Any counter-argument citing an official source is instantly dismissed, and any real evidence that refutes their claims is classed as contrived or planted by those "powers that be" who are out to fool us.
 Any evidence will do.

Any evidence that lends credence to their theories will be uncritically accepted as truth. Any evidence that opposes their theories is dismissed out of hand. The quality of evidence is not important as long as it supports the conspiracy theory.

A recent example (November 2004) is a letter that a certain Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories, USA (a highly respected company) sent to Frank Gayle of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) which has been used by PCTs to add credence to the claim that the twin towers were brought down in controlled explosions by the US government.
(see: http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsar ... 1-ryan.php).

We contacted Underwriters Laboratories for a comment and received this response:
UL comments. (PDF 77k - will open in a new window) http://www.skeptics.org.uk/documents/UL ... Nov_18.pdf

We also received a copy of the NIST statement:
NIST statement. (PDF 79k - will open in a new window) http://www.skeptics.org.uk/documents/NI ... Letter.pdf

One simple email to the company concerned discredits the source of the letter, yet it will no doubt be used as "evidence" for years to come by PCTs who find no need to check out a source as long as the message fits the theory.

This willingness to accept any source of information that fits the theory inevitably leads to an abundance of misinformation surrounding events.

Paranoid conspiracy theories are very appealing to the uncritical or unstable mind. Those who are fantasy-prone, irrational thinkers, and those who may have psychological problems: paranoia, delusional disorder for example, can quickly get suckered into a strange world of fantasy and/or fear.
Delusional disorder (grandiose) shows up as: an exaggerated idea of identity; knowledge; power; self-worth and importance; a special relationship to God or someone famous; the belief in having a special mission. Many PCTs exhibit these characteristics.
Once critical thinking is applied, and a search for real evidence is sought, these extreme conspiracy theories are found to lack any credibility: they look like badly written science-fiction. In fact many of the leading proponents of these conspiracy theories, such as David Icke, are prolific authors: their books being classed under science-ficton or religion and spirituality.
Paranoid conspiracy theories are a prime example of irrational thinking.

ahuseino
upravo tako,pronašao si stručno mišljene za nezadovoljnike,koji stalno okola dave sa nekom zavjerom i sl.Veleposlanik i ja smo "teški",davimo vas,a imaš vrlo jednostavno stručno objašnjenje naše" bolesti".A gdje si ti tu,normalno izabrao si put većine.Evo da skratimo samo reci da li je Kenedi zavjera,bez obzira na motiv,i šta misliš o napadu na pentagon.
Da se ponavljam tačno je ,ali se ponavljaju i moje "bolesne fiksacije"Rošild,Rokfeler Varburg,Morgan.Šta god se desi u svijetu,prije ili kasnije se sazna da su bili upleteni,a ja eto odmah pomislim na njih.
Evo i sada ovako lud ti tvrdim da su iz ove krize izašli sa dobrim talom,a prošle godine FED se platilo 170 miljijardi dolara na ime kamata,a oni su vlasnici FEDERALNIH REZERVI USA,i dato im pravo da štampaju novac.I za našeg dragog Obamu će štampati i posuđivati državi uz kamate,sada su mislim opet 4%.

@ahuseino, za tebe se Platonov Mit o Pecini ubio!

ti meni sionisticku analizu teoreticara, ja tebi covjeka koji je izmislio zivot za sve nas jos prije 2000 i kusur godina...

sheha, majstore, kako tvoj jaran Peter Joseph mislis da sam glup da cu nasjesti na tvoje jeftine fazone fol dobar tvoj jaran i sam svoj dokumentarac ismijava. hajmo care, kako ono: Bin Laden suderio avione u WTC??

tebi najveca svjetska pljacka svih vremena nije katastrofa? lijepo ti jos uvijek? e pa sacekaj jos malo, ima jos za tako uspavane kao ti...

a prestajem objasnjavati likovima poput tebe, koji jos samo sto ne primaju plate od sionistickih lobi organizacija... ljudi koji su voljni ispitati svijet i historiju zbog ociglednog magarcenja cijelog covjecanstva su vrijedni, njima iskljucivo idu ova nasa prepucavanja, nije radi tebe, nemoj se varati...

za ahuseina i raju:

veleposlanik i zonbirile sta reci na vase postove.ja mislim da ste vi pukli totalno.

Barack Obama: The 50 facts you might not know

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... -know.html


50 činjenica u Obami koje možda niste znali

Barack Obama ne pije kavu i rijetko pije alkohol, a probao je u životu marihuanu, kokain, pseće i zmijsko meso te skakavce; mrzi sladoled. Planira postaviti igralište za košarku u dvorištu Bijele kuće, 2006. je dobio Grammyja za audio verziju svojih memoara 'Dreams From My Father', a pročitao je sve knjige o Harryju Potteru. Prije predsjedničke kampanje obećao je ženi da će prestati pušiti, ali nije uspio, na kampanji je odbio gledati CNN i pratio je samo sportske programe, navodi Telegraph neko od 50 činjenica o Obami koje možda ne znamo.



• He collects Spider-Man and Conan the Barbarian comics

• He was known as "O'Bomber" at high school for his skill at basketball

• His name means "one who is blessed" in Swahili

• His favourite meal is wife Michelle's shrimp linguini

• He won a Grammy in 2006 for the audio version of his memoir, Dreams From My Father

• He is left-handed – the sixth post-war president to be left-handed

• He has read every Harry Potter book

• He owns a set of red boxing gloves autographed by Muhammad Ali

• He worked in a Baskin-Robbins ice cream shop as a teenager and now can't stand ice cream

• His favourite snacks are chocolate-peanut protein bars

• He ate dog meat, snake meat, and roasted grasshopper while living in Indonesia

• He can speak Spanish

• While on the campaign trail he refused to watch CNN and had sports channels on instead

• His favourite drink is black forest berry iced tea

• He promised Michelle he would quit smoking before running for president – he didn't

• He kept a pet ape called Tata while in Indonesia

• He can bench press an impressive 200lbs

• He was known as Barry until university when he asked to be addressed by his full name

• His favourite book is Moby-Dick by Herman Melville

• He visited Wokingham, Berks, in 1996 for the stag party of his half-sister's fiancé, but left when a stripper arrived

• His desk in his Senate office once belonged to Robert Kennedy

• He and Michelle made $4.2 million (£2.7 million) last year, with much coming from sales of his books

• His favourite films are Casablanca and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

• He carries a klix Madonna and child statue and a bracelet belonging to a soldier in Iraq for good luck

• He applied to appear in a black pin-up calendar while at Harvard but was rejected by the all-female committee.

• His favourite music includes Miles Davis, Bob Dylan, Bach and The Fugees

• He took Michelle to see the Spike Lee film Do The Right Thing on their first date

• He enjoys playing Scrabble and poker

• He doesn't drink coffee and rarely drinks alcohol

• He would have liked to have been an architect if he were not a politician

• As a teenager he took drugs including marijuana and cocaine

• His daughters' ambitions are to go to Yale before becoming an actress (Malia, 10) and to sing and dance (Sasha, 7)

• He hates the youth trend for trousers which sag beneath the backside

• He repaid his student loan only four years ago after signing his book deal

• His house in Chicago has four fire places

• Daughter Malia's godmother is Jesse Jackson's daughter Santita

• He says his worst habit is constantly checking his BlackBerry

• He uses an Apple Mac laptop

• He drives a Ford Escape Hybrid, having ditched his gas-guzzling Chrysler 300

• He wears $1,500 (£952) Hart Schaffner Marx suits

• He owns four identical pairs of black size 11 shoes

• He has his hair cut once a week by his Chicago barber, Zariff, who charges $21 (£13)

• His favourite fictional television programmes are Mash and The Wire

• He was given the code name "Renegade" by his Secret Service handlers

• He was nicknamed "Bear" by his late grandmother

• He plans to install a basketball court in the White House grounds

• His favourite artist is Pablo Picasso

• His speciality as a cook is chilli

• He has said many of his friends in Indonesia were "street urchins"

• He keeps on his desk a carving of a wooden hand holding an egg, a Kenyan symbol of the fragility of life

• His late father was a senior economist for the Kenyan government



Apsolutno sam siguran da ce Obama biti dobar predsjednik. Narod puno ocekuje od njega i svi ocekuju cudo, ali puno, puno, toga zavisi od americkog naroda...Americi upravo ovim trenutcima treba neko karizmatican, cijenjen, ugledan. Narod je sikaniran zadnje 3 - 4 godine. Nista se lijepo nije dogodilo; gube se ratovi i mlijarde dolara mjesecno, dogadjaju se velike prirodne katastrofe, inflacija jaca, cijene rastu, ekonomija je stagnirala, i sve je veci jaz izmedju bogatih i onih manje bogatih. Obama je dosao kao kec na desetku. On ce zasigurno popraviti ugled Amerike, uvest ce vise discipline i reda u bijeloj kuci. Ali, na kraju, sve je u rukama americkog naroda, oni su ti koji moraju isplivati iz krize u koju ih je uvalio GWB, najnepopularniji americki predsjednik. 76% amerikanaca smatra da je country in bad shape zbog njegove politike, ima veci procenat od svojeg oca, Nixona, Cartera...83% amerikanaca smatra da je situacija losa u drzavi, dakle, samo 17% naroda misli da je ok...Obama nema druge alternative nego da bude 99.9% efikasan. Vidjet cete, sve ce doci na svoje...sve e to narod pozlatiti

st. luis
to što pišeš su upravo želje poželjnih stvari koje bi se trebale dogoditi,ali neće.Upravo je i trebao takav izbor,njega su ljudi ,slobodnomisleći građani amerike izabrali svojom voljom i bla, bla,bla.Pa normalno treba raji malo force ,očekuje se još cca milion ljudi pod šatorima da pjevaju božićne pjesme ove godine,e sad im ne dati njihovog predjesdnika,bilo bi baš okrutno.Znaš masoni imaju naopak pentogram,jer se simbolika u odrazu ogledal,sve je isto samo naopako.Vidiš ti opisuješ ratsa aspekta razumnog bića,civiliziranog zemljanina,ali obrnut odraz iste stvari,rat u Iraku,Afganistanu je biznis.Promisli istu stvar drukčije,a mnogo si o tome i sam čuo:
profesionalna vojska je tamo,ona košta, jer je pod ugovorom i kada je u južnoj Karolini
municija je sva plačena po ugovaranju proizvodnje i stajala bi bez veze,a kad se potroši treba nova
vježba svega i svačega je najbolja u realnim uslovima po mogućnosti vani-ekologije radi
nešto se i osvoji,a i poslije rata valja graditi,davati kredite uz kamate
sve poslove ,već sada vode američke privatne firme sa milionskimprofitima i naši jadnici tamo rade za njih
E,sada pitanje je ko je taj Obama koji će jebati taj tal,u povjerenju znaju oni da on neće,već radi raje eto očekuje se svašta.
Što se nas tiče svejedno nam je bi on,paja patak,ili ko voli više miki mausa.