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Kažu, najmanje 300 ubijenih PKK terorista nisu državljani Turske, nego strani vojnici. Izgleda sad imamo i "raju iz Silopija". :oops:
Terror-Operationen 300 ausländische PKK-Söldner getötet

Von wegen „kurdisch“: Wie die Identifikation von 752 jüngst getöteten PKK-Terroristen im Südosten der Türkei zeigt, waren 300 davon ausländische Söldner. 

Söldnerarmee PKK
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#3302 Re: Republika Turska

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HDP je prijetio da postane sveturska stranka, u kampanji pred izbore u junu zna se za sta su se zalagali, atmosfera i raspolozenje javnosti im je odgovaralo, akp jednostavno nije htjela da dijeli vlast ni sa kim, ni sa chp-om ni sa mhp-om (koji je imao svoje specificne zahtjeve, poput ponovnog otvaranja procesa protiv Bilala, da se utvrdi odakle mu pare za flotu brodova itd) ni sa HDP-om, HDP je ostvario velike rezultate na zapadu zemlje, i nisu za njih glasali samo kurdi vec veliki broj lijevo orijentisanih turaka, nakon toga pokrenuta je kampanja i spirala nasilja kako bi se HDP spustio ispod 10% (iako se uporedo radilo i na razbijanju MHP-a (potkupljivanjima, organizovanjem nekakvih osmanli ocaklara i podmetanjima) trebalo je da jedna od tih stranaka padne kako bi AKP imala dvotrecinsku vecinu u parlamentu.
nije im uspjelom,vratili su vecinu, iako ne znaci da nece nekad kasnije...
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- Sur (Dijarbakir) vojska prosirila podrucje operacije, istovremeno danas u sukobima poginula 3 pripadnika vojske, i jedan policajac. Vojska je objavila da su u operacijama danas ubili 20 pripadnika PKK
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#3304 Re: Republika Turska

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Neki dan napadoše djecu u školi.
Militants of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) have detonated an improvised explosive device near a schoolyard in the southeastern province of Diyarbakır, wounding five students.

CRIME >Schoolyard blast wounds five students in southeast Turkey
Kad smo već kod vatre i romantike, prošli mjesec, na borbenim linijama u Stuttgartu, zapališe još jednu džamiju.
Die selbsternannte „Öcalan-Jugend“ hat sich in einer Erklärung auf einer Webseite der terroristischen PKK zum Brandanschlag vom Dienstag in Stuttgart bekannt. Die Terroristen kündigten für die Zukunft noch weitere Gewalttaten an.

PKK-Jugend bekennt sich zum Terroranschlag auf Stuttgarter Moschee
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#3305 Re: Republika Turska

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prije par godina, u vrijeme pregovora vlade i PKK pocela su na svjetlo dana izlaziti priznanja visokorangiranih oficira u todoba, koji su govorili o tome kako bi nocu napali selo, nakon toga bi dosla vojska s tenkovima i "rastjerala"napadace tj vojnike, te bi seljanima ponudili da stupe u strazu tzv köy korucusu...
Turska je ovim ratom definitivno izgubila jugoistok, heart&minds
Ti isti ljudi iz vrha turske, sef MIT-a npr Hakan Fidan je (u razgovorima s politickim i vojnim vrhom prije godinu dvije) predlagao da organizuje napad na osmatracnisu Turske armije s sirijske strane granice, te da tako imaju odrijesene ruke za upad u siriju (rijec je o aferi prisluskivanja-razgovore su objavili opozicioni mediji), nakon cega je uslijedio val hapsenja, iako ne samo radi tog razgovora, bilo je tu mnogo vecih stvari koje su zataskane ali ne i zaboravljene
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#3306 Re: Republika Turska

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sunceKOtepsija wrote:HDP je prijetio da postane sveturska stranka, u kampanji pred izbore u junu zna se za sta su se zalagali, atmosfera i raspolozenje javnosti im je odgovaralo, akp jednostavno nije htjela da dijeli vlast ni sa kim, ni sa chp-om ni sa mhp-om (koji je imao svoje specificne zahtjeve, poput ponovnog otvaranja procesa protiv Bilala, da se utvrdi odakle mu pare za flotu brodova itd) ni sa HDP-om, HDP je ostvario velike rezultate na zapadu zemlje, i nisu za njih glasali samo kurdi vec veliki broj lijevo orijentisanih turaka, nakon toga pokrenuta je kampanja i spirala nasilja kako bi se HDP spustio ispod 10% (iako se uporedo radilo i na razbijanju MHP-a (potkupljivanjima, organizovanjem nekakvih osmanli ocaklara i podmetanjima) trebalo je da jedna od tih stranaka padne kako bi AKP imala dvotrecinsku vecinu u parlamentu.
nije im uspjelom,vratili su vecinu, iako ne znaci da nece nekad kasnije...
Ti tvrdiš da je nasilje pokrenuo AKP kako bi spriječio da HDP pređe izborni prag. Međutim, mnogi analitičari tvrde da odgovornost za nasilje nije nipošto tako jednostrano određena. Motiva ne manjka ni drugoj strani. Evo šta kaže npr. GMF (German Marshall Fund).

PKK se ohrabrio dobicima koje su Kurdi ostvarili u Siriji, prekinuli su dvoipogodišnje primirje i nastoje iskoristiti situaciju.
The Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) has been emboldened, on the one hand, by the gains of its sister party, the Democratic Union Party (PYD), in the Kurdish part of Syria and, on the other, Turkey’s deteriorating geopolitical position in Syria, particularly after Russia’s heavy military build-up and the Turkish–Russian feud over Turkey’s shooting down of the Russian jet. The PKK has become less compromising and more assertive. After terminating its two-and-half year long ceasefire with Turkey through the execution of two police officers on July 22, 2015, the PKK is now intensifying its fight against Turkey.
Ranije su Kurdima, kao referentna tačka za ostvarivanje svojih prava, služile norme Evropske Unije. Međutim, strategija se promijenila nakon dobitka teritorije u Siriji. Od tada PKK pokušava da prenese sirijsku situaciju u Tursku, okupira kvartove i gradove, proglašava samoupravu, itd.
In the late 1990s and early 2000s, the Kurdish movement’s reference point on the advancement of the Kurdish rights in Turkey was the European Union’s norms. The EU’s Copenhagen Criteria, which was agreed upon in 1993 and which focuses on “the stability of institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights, and respect for and protection of minorities,” was the discursive and political reference point for the Kurds. It was within this framework that the Kurdish movement made reference to the European Charter of Local Self-Government.

But this strategy seems to have changed dramatically. The fact that the EU’s norms essentially advocate for democratic, economic, and political progress and fall short of questioning the national government’s sovereignty, let alone paving the way for separatism, did not go down well with part of the Kurdish Movement, especially the PKK’s leadership. As a result, the context has changed for the PKK.

Kurdish gains in Syria and Iraq are now the PKK’s primary reference point. Both the activities and the rhetoric of the Kurdish movements clearly suggest this. The PKK has tried to replicate the experience of the PYD in the Kurdish part of Turkey by attempting to forcefully occupy some Kurdish neighborhoods, districts, and towns, declaring what it calls “democratic self-governance” and de facto wresting political authority over these areas from the central government.
Taktika urbanog ratovanja je donijela konsolidaciju na kurdskoj strani, i civilna i vojna komponenta ima istu retoriku, a PKK vodi glavnu riječ.
This new urban warfare is redrawing the lines within the Kurdish movement and affecting Kurdish society. This atmosphere of violence is increasing consolidation in Kurdish politics. All of its components, both armed and civilian, are adopting the same rhetoric and supporting the same policies. The trouble is that in times of violence, the most radical elements set the tone. Almost exclusively, the PKK has set the stage and now runs the show. This is the political part of the consolidation.
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#3307 Re: Republika Turska

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Da se podsjetimo, i brat Abdullaha Öcalana, nekada istaknuti član PKK, je tvrdio da su borci PKK sada marionete stranih obavještajnih službi, koje nastoje prenijeti situaciju iz Sirije u Tursku.
Der in Erbil lebende Osman Öcalan, Bruder des inhaftierten PKK-Führers, hält die Rückkehr zur Gewalt vonseiten der Terrororganisation für einen Fehler. Er hält es für möglich, dass fremde Geheimdienste die operative Struktur der PKK unterwandert haben.

„Den Türken wird von manchen Staaten unterstellt, für die Situation in Syrien verantwortlich zu sein und dementsprechend versuchen sie nun ihrerseits, die Türkei in ein zweites Syrien zu verwandeln.“

Kurden gegen PKK -
Öcalan-Bruder: „Ich lehne diesen Kampf im Namen der Kurden ab“
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#3308 Re: Republika Turska

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Norman wrote:
Vidim, velike te dileme muče. Za mene je namjerno ubijanje nevinih ljudi uvijek veliko zlo. Bar je kod nas vjernika ubistvo jednog nevinog izjednačeno s ubistvom cijelog svijeta, valjda da nekom ne bi palo na pamet da taj zločin umanjuje ili relativizira. 8) A relativiziranje ne traži nikakav trud: samo nađeš neki veći zločin, hvala Bogu uvijek ima gore, i ovo tvoje malo zlo ispadne romantično.

Nije sporno da Izrael čini više zla, ali ja ću ti i za Hamas reći isto kao i za PKK. Ubijanje nevinih ljudi nije ispravan način borbe za prava Palestinaca, to je veliko zlo koje ne treba romantizirati, treba se boriti drugim sredstvima.
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Principijelno, nema sta. Konacno jedan principijelan vjernik. :hajmooo: :D Ne moramo se slagati, ali vazda postujem dosljednost u stavovima. :thumbup:

Nadam se da me ne levatis tukjom!? Vidio sam te tamo sa sijama kako se druzis. :lol:




Mislim da smo rekli sto smo imali. Svaki novi komentar bi bio ponavljanje vec napisanog.
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#3309 Re: Republika Turska

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Kikibombona wrote: Nadam se da me ne levatis tukjom!? Vidio sam te tamo sa sijama kako se druzis. :lol:
Koliko vidim, šije su tebe vrbovale. Za tri tinejdžerke + sado-mazo, već eno jurišaš na vehabijske rovove po Klixu. :D

Već sam rekao, dragi su mi i Turci i Kurdi. Redovno idem na odmor u Tursku i tamo sam upoznao mnogo dobrih ljudi, neki su Turci, neki Kurdi. Ja im želim sve najbolje, kao što i sebi želim.

A sebi sam želio prošle godine da posjetim dio od Gaziantepa preko Şanliurfe do Mardina, ali sam odustao od te ideje u vrijeme kad si ti pričao kako se ISIL voza istom cestom između Jarabulusa i Kobanea. :D
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Turska vojska se nastavlja izivljavati nad gradom Cizre...

Umro jos jedan ranjenik u bolnici Cizre. Turci ne dozvoljavaju da se ranjenici prebace u bolje opremljenu bolnicu. :-) :-)

Grob te jebe, pa kakvi su to ljudi!?
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ti stvarno oš da ja popijem ban odgovarajući :D
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Kikibombona wrote:Turska vojska se nastavlja izivljavati nad gradom Cizre...

Umro jos jedan ranjenik u bolnici Cizre. Turci ne dozvoljavaju da se ranjenici prebace u bolje opremljenu bolnicu. :-) :-)

Grob te jebe, pa kakvi su to ljudi!?
Jedne od najvećih pičketina na kugli zemaljskoj.

Rusi artiljerijom i avijacijom samljeli Turkmene u Latakiji, a Turci preko granice ni kurcem da mrdnu nego daju neke patetične izjave i pozivaju Ameriku u pomoć.

Iako pozdravljam Tursko savezništvo sa Izraelom u razbijanju Sirije i dalje smatram da se radi o najobičnijim kukavicama.

Više je Izrael pomogao islamistima u Siriji nego Turska, a Erdogan se našao sebe postavljati u ulogu vođe muslimanskoga svijeta.

Lako protiv Kurda dok imaju američko odobravanje za obračun sa PKK-om. Ali ako jednog dana Američka podrška izostane, Ankara bi mogla postati glavni grad Kurdistana :mrgreen:
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Kareem Abdul wrote: Ali ako jednog dana Američka podrška izostane, Ankara bi mogla postati glavni grad Kurdistana :mrgreen:
Promjeni dilera pod hitno!
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Kareem Abdul wrote: Jedne od najvećih pičketina na kugli zemaljskoj.

Rusi artiljerijom i avijacijom samljeli Turkmene u Latakiji, a Turci preko granice ni kurcem da mrdnu nego daju neke patetične izjave i pozivaju Ameriku u pomoć.

Iako pozdravljam Tursko savezništvo sa Izraelom u razbijanju Sirije i dalje smatram da se radi o najobičnijim kukavicama.

Više je Izrael pomogao islamistima u Siriji nego Turska, a Erdogan se našao sebe postavljati u ulogu vođe muslimanskoga svijeta.

Lako protiv Kurda dok imaju američko odobravanje za obračun sa PKK-om. Ali ako jednog dana Američka podrška izostane, Ankara bi mogla postati glavni grad Kurdistana :mrgreen:
Prije bih rekao da su svjesni svojih kapaciteta. Imali su kamaru promasaja od izbijanja 'arapskog proljeca', konfrontacija sa Rusijom je vjerovatno najveci od svih. Ugroziti ruske interese u Latakiji nakon sto su im oborili avion ne bi bila pametna odluka. Vjerovatno su i Rusi u cetiri oka porucili sta ce uslijediti u tom slucaju.

Tursko saveznistvo sa Izraelom? :lol: To je turska zelja, nikakvo saveznistvo. Jucer je ministar odbrane Izraela optuzio Tursku da saradjuje sa ISILom, da od najveceg monstruma danasnjice kupuju naftu u velikim kolicinama. Turska moze biti sluga Izraela, parnter nikako!

Ovdje se ne slazem. IDF jeste nanio vise stete sirijskoj armiji, rakterirali su ih vise puta... ali turska pomoc teroristima je veoma izdasna. Od Turske dobijaju oruzje, municiju, hranu, lijekove.... Da nije Turske tesko bi opstali do sada.

Da stvar bude gora, opet im nije lako. Muce se protiv djecurlije nekakve u gradovima. Eto kako su sposobni. Ista ta djeca ih istjerala iz gradova pa sada sa okolnih brda rokaju. A u pravu si, kada PKK bude imao podrsku Amerike, sa Turskom je gotovo.
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Ah, ta vječna opsesija terorista djecom!

Na slikama su mali pe-ka-kajčići, YPS-Zorak ili jednostavno djeca otpora. :D

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I ponovo se našao Amnesty International i ostali dušebrižnici da seru po Kurdima, a znaju da će ih kurdski tviteraši opet rezbucati, jer se vidi da se djeca dobro zabavljaju. :oops:

Evo i cijeli članak nekog autora koji zlonamjerno podsjeća kako PKK napada škole i druga mjesta gdje se okupljaju djeca.
PKK's 'rifle games' with children a war crime

The PKK terrorist organization continues to abuse the rights of children in the southeast by using them as fighters, brainwashing them and coaxing them to attain a heroic position in its war. 

Many civilians are fed up with the PKK's vandalizing policies that disregard life, property and cultural heritage through digging ditches, erecting barricades and declaring autonomy, and children are also subject to PKK policies.

A photo from Hakkari's Yüksekova district of children wearing Civil Defense Union (YPS) masks, the PKK's newly established youth-wing for children under18, was widely published in the media on Wednesday. Holding toy Kalashnikovs and playing a game digging in the snow to make emplacements, the photo was used in the pro-PKK Dicle News Agency (DİHA), under the headline "YPS-Zarok [Child] announcement from the children of the resistance." Over the reaction it received, DİHA later removed the report from its site. Regarding the report, İlhami Işık, a Kurdish writer known for his views on the Kurdish issue, thinks that using children as a propaganda tool comes from a "diseased mentality." "They are even using children in their propaganda and show it off with pride. This is totally inexplicable," he said, adding there is an animalized morality behind such a thing. 

Speaking to Daily Sabah, Bahadır Gültekin, media correspondent of Amnesty International's Istanbul branch, said such action that aims to recruit children under 15 is defined as a war crime. He said:

"Amnesty International is categorically against the recruitment and use of child soldiers in armed conflicts. Under international law, the participation of children under 18 in armed conflict is generally prohibited and the recruitment and use of children under 15 is a war crime."

Galip İlhaner, the head of the NGO Give Our Children Back Foundation (ÇOGEV-DER), based in the province of Van in eastern Turkey, said the PKK terrorist organization has no problem with exploiting women or children for propaganda purposes, and it forces Kurdish children away from their families for this purpose. İlhaner said, "Those who are above a certain age try to keep their distance from the PKK. The organization wants to close this gap. It is easier to abduct or deceive children using various methods," and added that the terrorist organization forces these children to become involved in criminal and terrorist activities. These youth are inducted into the PKK's so-called Civil Protection Units (YPS).

Indicating that the use of children as "cannon fodder" was a long-standing strategy for the YPS, İlhaner argues that the PKK terrorist organization wants to demonize Turkey in the international platform, using the deaths of these youth to make black propaganda, which portray's Turkey as a state that kills children.

Itır Erhart, Assistant Professor in the Faculty of Communication of Bilgi University, said: "Since they do not have any means to defend themselves against danger, they become easy targets. They suffer physical and emotional wounds. Sometimes they are also forced into becoming child soldiers. Since we cannot talk about 'agency' or 'political participation' when talking about children, recruiting and using them in conflict is child exploitation. The images I saw of YPS-Zarok are very distressing. Children should be protected at all costs from being forced into armed conflict."

Along with using children for its propaganda, the PKK also deprives children of education by targeting schools in Diyarbakır and Şırnak. On Friday, children playing in the yard of Nuriye Eser Elementary School in the Bağlar district of Diyarbakır were wounded in a PKK bombing.Furthermore, the double-story Sema Cıngıllıoğlu Primary School in the Dicle neighborhood of Şırnak caught fire from Molotov cocktails thrown by a group of PKK terrorists on Jan. 6.

Terrorists also targeted public places, Quran educational facilities and other locations populated by children last year. On Dec. 8, two schools in the Sur district were burned with hand-made explosives. On Sept. 14, a Quran educational facility was shot at in Cizre, leading to the evacuation of the building. On Oct. 8, Hasan Yılmaz, 9, was killed and three children aged 6 to 10 were injured in the Diyarbakır neighborhood of Silvan when a mortar planted by the PKK exploded.

On Aug. 20, the BBC published a story called "In pictures: PKK fighters prepare for battle with IS [DAESH]." Ankara, which believes that Western media applies double standards regarding the PKK, called the publication "unacceptable," describing it as "written and visual propaganda" for the PKK through depicting it as "an innocent organization" fighting against DAESH.

* Merve Baran contributed this report from Istanbul
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Tabhana wrote:U nas roba iz Turske 5x skuplja nego u samoj Turskoj. Majica Tommy Hilfiger tamo 7-8KM, kod nas 40-50 :lol:
Kad smo već kod društvene rubrike, evo još jedan haber. Nisu samo bazari i trgovine po Turskoj.

Dva turska univerziteta među 10 najboljih malih svjetskih univerziteta, po rejtingu čuvenog Times Higher Education magazina. Među prvih 20 nema nijedne druge muslimanske zemlje, nema čak ni šija, nema zemalja iz regiona. :( Listu predvodi američki Caltech.

Lista Top 20: The world’s best small universities 2016

Članak iz turskih novina:
Two Turkish institutions have entered a prestigious top 10 ranking of the best small universities in the world.

Two private universities based in Istanbul -- Koç and Sabancı -- appeared in the list announced by the Times Higher Education magazine (widely considered the U.K.'s leading higher education news publication ) on Monday for the 2016-17 academic year. 

Two Turkish universities among world’s top 10 small universities
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Tabhana wrote:U nas roba iz Turske 5x skuplja nego u samoj Turskoj. Majica Tommy Hilfiger tamo 7-8KM, kod nas 40-50 :lol:
Kapitalizam pa udri poslije sniženje 70%. :shock:
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Još malo o stranim državljanima koji se organizuju da šire teror po Turskoj.
Spain arrests nine accused of being associated with PKK

Spanish police arrested nine people on Wednesday accused of belonging to and collaborating with a criminal and terrorist organization, due to connections with the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), the Interior Ministry said in a statement.

The PKK, which is fighting for autonomy for Turkey's Kurds, is considered a terrorist group by Turkey, the United States and the European Union. The decades-long conflict has cost more than 40,000 lives.

Of those arrested, eight were from Spain and one from Turkey, according to the statement.

The operation, which remains open, also searched 11 houses during dawn raids in Madrid, Valencia and Bilbao, the ministry said.

"Those arrested, in collaboration with other residents in other European countries, supplied the necessary infrastructure to send people to join the ranks of the People's Protection Units (YPG) or the armed wing of the organization,” the ministry said.

Including the arrests on Wednesday, Spain has detained 19 people accused of belonging to the PKK since 2013, according to the ministry.
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Sudeci prema gornjim fotografijama,Kiki je upravu kad kaze da se Turci pate sa djecom po gradovima :D
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Lejla Zana, jedan od lidera HDP i zivuca legenda kurdskog otpora protiv sovinisticke drzave, zeli sastanak sa sultanom muslimana :D

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/reports/255836

Zeli razgovarati o tri teme:

1. Odzalan
2. Autonomija za Kurde na istoku
3. YPG u Siriji

Turska sovinisticka drzava ima dvije koscure u grlu. Jednu su progutali, zove se iracki Kurdistan. Kao sto rece jedan turski general, sa irackim Kurdima smo zakasnili, ne smijemo dozvoliti da sirijski Kurdi ojacaju do te mjere da nismo u stanju intervenisati. Dvije koscure su HDP i posebno YPG. Turska zeli da Kurde u Turskoj predstavlja PKK kako bi mogli nastaviti propagandno-zlocinacki rat protiv kurdskog naroda. Ne zele politicki, ekonomski i kulturni razvoj koji obecava HDP. Zato cine sve da uniste ovu stranku.

Sa YPG imaju vec ozbiljniji problem. Clanove HDP mogu hapsiti i premlacivati, mogu im raditi sto zele. YPG ima 60 000 do zuba naoruzanih i motivisanih boraca. Aj skupi muda majcin sine pa posalji vojsku na protivnika koji ima mogucnost braniti se. Ne mogu zauzeti Cizre koji brane klinci bez ratnog iskustva, kako bi zauzeli Kamisli koji ima 400 000 stanovnika? Al' ne moraju dobiti rat, za njih bi vjerovatno bilo dovoljno da Rojavu uniste iz zraka i artiljerijom sa kopna, da protjeraju i pobiju civile.

Turska svoinisticka drzava jednostavno ne zeli napredak Kurda. Ne mogu podnijeti njihov razvoj u Turskoj niti bilo gdje drugo.

Turkey Threatens Military Action Against Syrian Kurds

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#3321 Re: Republika Turska

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Turci su do sada pocinili tako gnusne zlocine da bi im i najgori zlocinci mogli pozavidjeti...

1. Pucanje na ljude koji sa bijelim zastavama kupe mrtve i ranjene sa ulice
2. Poziv na genocid i potpuno unistenje Kurda, te velicanje genocida nad Armenima
3. Zabrana da se evakuise 28 tesko ranjenih ljudi koji se nalaze u bolnici Cizre i umiru jedno po jedno
4. Paradiranje ulicom sa mrtvim covjekom cije je tijelo zavezano za vojno vozilo

Kada su ovo spremni uraditi, kada na ovakve stvari drustvo i zakon ne djeluju, mozete misliti sta sve rade jadnom narodu kada nema kamera.

Danas su uhapsili 30 navijaca fudbalskog kluba Amed koji su istakli zastavu 'zaustavite ubijanje djece, gledajmo fudbal'. Vidjeli smo kako su prosli akademici koji su upozorili na zlocinacku kampanju. Dodjes na posao i na vratima te doceka obavjest da tu vise ne radis. Predsjednik ti prijeti zatvorom. Novinarima su zivoti i sloboda ugrozeni.

Zemlja straha, terora i zlocina.
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#3322 Re: Republika Turska

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Kikibombona wrote:Turci su do sada pocinili tako gnusne zlocine da bi im i najgori zlocinci mogli pozavidjeti...
3. Zabrana da se evakuise 28 tesko ranjenih ljudi koji se
Zabrana? Molim te, donesi nam dokaz da je turska vlada zabranila evakuaciju ranjenika.

Do tad:

Turski ministar zdravlja juče je javno, na konferenciji za novinare, telefonom zvao medicinsko osoblje u Cizre-u kako bi svi vidjeli zašto se ranjenici ne evakuiraju u bolnicu. Medicinari su istakli da ne mogu prići zgradi zbog borbi. Policjaci su izjavili da teroristi i dalje ne prekidaju pucnjavu oko zgrade s ranjenicima, te da ne mogu osigurati sigurnost medicinskom timu.
The minister then inquired if the municipality's ambulances could be dispatched to pick up the wounded, to which she replied that ambulances could not go near the building they were in because of ongoing clashes...
However, when the ministry employees talked to the police, they said the terrorists in the area kept on firing, and that they could not guarantee the safety of the medical workers.
Minister phones health worker in Cizre, asks why 20 wounded people can’t be taken to hospital
Druga vijest kaže da su teroristi pucali po medicinskom timu i specijalcima, kada su ovi pokušali da izvuku ranjenike. Tvrdi se da su upali u pripremljenu zasjedu.
Upon receiving the address of the building, security forces accompanied health personnel to the location under suspicion that it was a ruse, since the area has been laden with heavy clashes with PKK terrorists. When the ambulance and security forces arrived, terrorists opened fire on the ambulance from the building and security forces suspicions were realized.A terrorist using the code name "Mamo," who reportedly set up all explosives in the district of Cizre, is among the wounded who are reportedly trapped inside the building. Along with "Mamo," the district's PKK soi-disant commander Mehmet Tunç, the managing editor of the PKK-affiliated Azadiya Welat daily, Rohat Aktaş, and the district's financial head are reportedly among other prominent figures inside the building.
HDP deputy lures security forces with false claims
Ahmed Davutoglu je izjavio da je svaki pokušaj izvlačenja ovih ranjenika završio pucnjavom po medicinskom timu. Inače, ranjenici bi trebali biti evakuisani u bolnicu pod kontrolom legitimne vlasti, koju teroristi bombarduju sa 20 raketa dnevno.
Paramedic units trying to reach 28 civilians sheltering in a cellar in curfew-stricken Cizre in the southeastern province of Şırnak have come under fire during each attempt, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu has said, while telling the Kurdish problem-focused Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP) to call on militants of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) to surrender...We fight against terror and we would take all kinds of measures to rush any wounded person to hospital, no matter whether [he or she] is a terrorist,” Davutoğlu said...
Meanwhile, Davutoğlu explained exactly what he wanted HDP parliamentarians to say. “Make a call saying, ‘While we speak here at the parliament of a democratic country, you cannot jeopardize lives of paramedic workers and patients there by setting barricades, digging holes and firing 20 rockets in one day at the Cizre Public Hospital,’” he said.
Turkish PM tells HDP to call on Cizre ‘terrorists’ to surrender]
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#3323 Re: Republika Turska

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Na YouTube-u se pojavio video u kojem pripadnici YPG-a (kurdska oružana grupa iz Sirije, bliska terorističkoj PKK) pozivaju strance da se pridruže teroristima i vrše terorističke napade na turske institucije.
A YouTube video has appeared of an English-speaking man, believed to be a fighter from the Democratic Union Party's (PYD) armed wing, the People's Protection Units (YPG) – an offshoot of the PKK terrorist organization – making a call for Westerners to join the ranks of the armed group and conduct terrorist attacks against the Turkish state...

"Attack the institutions of the Turkish state all over the world. Come to Kurdistan and join the forces of the YPJ (women's branch of the YPG), YPS (the newly formed armed wing of the YPG in Turkey) and the guerrillas," the man says in the video."

PYD terrorists call on Westerners to join group, attack Turkey
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Ispod je cijeli tekst terorističkog proglasa, koji potvrđuje sve ono što su mnogi analitičari ranije isticali u vezi situacije na jugoistoku Turske: da su teroristi zauzeli gradove još i prije turske vojno-policijske akcije, da su postavili barikade i iskopali rovove, da su proglasili samoupravu u okupiranim područjima, da su formirali posebne paravojne grupe prije intervencije, da terorističke grupe uključuju strane državljane... i sve to da se radi po planu i po uzoru na zauzimanje teritorije u Siriji.
Internationalist combatants fighting in the ranks of YPG/YPJ (People’s/Women’s Defense Units) have released a statement saluting the self-rule resistance in Bakur (North) Kurdistan. Revolutionaries called upon the youths to join the resistance alongside the YPS (Civil Defense Units) and guerrilla forces.

The press conference by internationalist combatants was held at the border between Qamislo city of Rojava and Nusaybin town of Bakur Kurdistan. The statement in Kurdish, Spanish, German and English also called upon youths worldwide to support the Kurdistan revolution.

The press release by revolutionaries from Germany, France and Spain is as follows;

“We are revolutionaries from all over the world who have come to Kurdistan out of their own free will to join the struggle for liberation.

We are living in a time of constant emergency. While at the heart of the Leviathan the enemy continues to numb, stupefy and enslave the people in the most thorough and wicked way, the fringes are lost in war. Today the oppression of 500 years of capitalism lives on in countless forms.

The rulers know no limits when it comes to securing their wealth and pursuing their interests. If we look at all the news of a single day it is easy to simply drown in despair. And that is exactly the point. We are to believe that there is no alternative, that the system we live in is the only option. When the soviet union collapsed it was said that we are at “the end of history”. But now, 25 years later, we see once more that capitalism isn’t and never has been able to solve our problems. On the contrary, every so-called solution has only multiplied the existing problems.

The system thrives on oppression. The oppressors need us. They cannot exist without us, but we can without them. Slavery, war and sorrow, loneliness and despair are neither fate nor coincidence, they are inevitable characteristics of a capitalist society. It is therefore our most urgent duty to organize against it. As much as they try to overwhelm our conscience and plant their truth in our hearts – we will not be deceived any longer. The alternative exists, right in front of our eyes.

For more than 40 years the resistance of the PKK against the occupiers, most notably the Turkish state, has never faltered. The PKK fight for freedom and autonomy, not just for Kurds but for all peoples of the Middle East. 4 years ago the fire caught in the western part of Kurdistan called Rojava, which was then liberated from the Syrian occupation. Rojava’s people self-organized, leading to a full-scale social revolution. Everywhere they founded councils and communes for local administration, and cooperatives as basis for a new economy. The historical resistance that was put up to defend the revolution, the fight of the guerilla; liberation of women, radical democracy and ecology as foundation of an alternative society – these are our hopes in the 21st century. We draw courage and belief from the revolution in Kurdistan.

The situation right now is very critical. The war in Northern Kurdistan, the part occupied by Turkey, has been raging for half a year. The attack on the guerrilla-controlled territories by the Turkish occupation forces on 24th of July was answered by the people by declarations of Democratic Autonomy in many areas in Northern Kurdistan. They built up communes and local councils, just like in Rojava. Led by the YDGH and YDGK youth and young women’s movement the people organized their self-defense and erected barricades in their neighborhoods. The Turkish state saw this as a threat to its authority that had for the last years merely existed symbolically in the Kurdish regions and attacked with uninhibited brutality.

For months now the people, most notably the revolutionary youth, have been resisting against the second-biggest army of NATO. Heavy fighting continues in the cities of Cizîre, Silopya, Nisêbîn, Kerboran, Şirnex, Gever and the Sûr and Farqîn neighborhoods of Amed.

During the winter months the snow limits very much the movement of the guerrilla. This is why the enemy does everything in his power to break the will of the people before spring. In the 90ies the state burned down thousands of villages to separate the population from the guerrilla and force the people to become refugees. Today they attempt the very same, attacking civilians with tanks, helicopters and heavy artillery.

Everyday there is news of children, youths and whole families massacred by state forces. The state has send thousands of its best troops and heavy weaponry into the Kurdish regions to quell the revolutionary insurrection. The occupation forces have decreed curfews in all Kurdish cities, cut off water and electricity and keep spreading anti-Kurdish propaganda while heavily censoring all Turkish media outlets. But despite all this the people have stood up to all intimidation attempts and fight everyday with unwavering courage and conviction in the streets of north Kurdistan. Recently the civil defense units YPS, modeled after the Rojavan YPG, have been built up to support this resistance.

We congratulate the creation of the YPS and send our warmest greetings and respect to the YDGH. Many of our comrades have fallen in this struggle. Their memory gives us strength and their sacrifice will not have been in vain. We will carry on the flame of revolution with all our heart and mind. Our place is here, side by side with our comrades, fighting for a free Kurdistan and Middle East.

We call on all revolutionaries worldwide – join the resistance. This is not the time to sit at home and ponder what might be. We are building and defending the future now. We call for resistance and solidarity. Rise against the imperialist forces. Attack the institutions of the Turkish state all over the world. Come to Kurdistan and join the forces of YPJ, YPS and the guerrilla!”

War against Turkey & ISIS/Daesh: Internationalist fighters in Rojava call on youth to join Bakur’s resistance (Kurdistan, Turkey, Syria)
Inače, ovaj YDGH, koji se spominje u proglasu, je paravojna grupa koju su teroristi formirali još 2013. godine, kao odgovor na tzv. "Demokratski paket" koji je pripremila AKP vlada, a koji je imao za cilj da između ostaloga dodatno popravi prava kurdske manjine. To je još jedan dokaz da teroristi nisu željeli rješavati probleme mirnim putem i kroz institucije sistema, nego su planirali iskoristiti rat u Siriji i zauzeti teritoriju oružjem, pa su tako uveli Tursku (skupa s nedužnim civilima) u rat.

Jedino smiješno u ovom proglasu je ova referenca na Sovjetski Savez, očito im je pad komunizma teško pao, ali se marksisti još nisu predali. :lol:
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#3325 Re: Republika Turska

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Kikibombona wrote:Turci su do sada pocinili tako gnusne zlocine da bi im i najgori zlocinci mogli pozavidjeti...

2. Poziv na genocid i potpuno unistenje Kurda, te velicanje genocida nad Armenima
Zapravo, koliko se gnusne laži ovdje šire protiv Turaka, najbolje pokazuje upravo ovaj primjer.

Kiki u svom postu aludira na ovaj video:
Kikibombona wrote:ZNACI...



" Everything, every time, everywhere always only Turks. On Earth and in heaven - only Turks. We will never allow Kurds in Silopi to survive. We will fight till the end.....we swear that every place will remain Turkish land. What ISIS (Islamic State) has done, is nothing to what we will do, We will kill all Kurds as we killed all the Armenian. Amen. "
Ništa od ovoga nije rečeno na videu. Evo šta ustvari izgovaraju turski borci:

korku nedir bilmeyiz - don't know what is fear
biz dağların erleri - we are the soldiers of mountains
yuva yaptık göklere - we built houses to skies
baş döndüren yerlere - places make you dizzy
engel tanımaz aşarız - we don't recognize limits and reach
yüce engin dağlar - to the grand mountains
el verir uzanırız mor siyah bulutlara - our hands reach to the purple-black clouds
ben türk komandosuyum - I'm a Turkish commado
düşmanı çelik pençemle ezerim - I crush the enemy with my steel claw
her yerde ben varım - I'm in everywhere
havada,karada,denizde,çölde - land, air, sea, desert
çatakta ve batakta - swamp and morass
her zaman ve heryerde - every time and every where
siirt'te,hakkari'de,tunceli'de - in Siirt, in Hakkari, in Tunceli
hazir - ready
daima hazir - always ready
kim? komando - who? commando
kim? komando - who? commando
olamazsin - you can't be
yahh! - no
olamazsin - you can't be
yahh!- no
komandolar! commandos
allah! - God!

Tanrı komandoyu korusun - May God protect commando
sağol! - thanks

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