Huawei telefoni

arnes_king · Post by **arnes_king** » 26/05/2019 14:29

nosara wrote:
crnivrag wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK-qwn_qTtI
Zvaljo laze za cisco i t mobile.

Vjerovatno tu ima dosta istine, jer sam neke od slucajeva koje je navodio i vidio da su bili takvi. A bar danas se moze jednostavno doci do informacije i sve te tvrdnje provjeriti.

nosara · Post by **nosara** » 26/05/2019 14:36

arnes_king wrote:
nosara wrote:
crnivrag wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK-qwn_qTtI
Zvaljo laze za cisco i t mobile.
Vjerovatno tu ima dosta istine, jer sam neke od slucajeva koje je navodio i vidio da su bili takvi. A bar danas se moze jednostavno doci do informacije i sve te tvrdnje provjeriti.

Za ovo laze sigurno. Kao sto je laz da je kina zabranila google.

Citava frka tice se iskljucivo 5g i cinjenice da ericsson zaostaje dramaticno. Pokusavaju da kupe vrijeme i ucijene huawei. Vjerujem da ce se ubrzo dogovoriti, Kina je ogromno trziste u ekspanziji.

arnes_king · Post by **arnes_king** » 26/05/2019 14:52

nosara wrote:
arnes_king wrote:
nosara wrote:
Zvaljo laze za cisco i t mobile.
Vjerovatno tu ima dosta istine, jer sam neke od slucajeva koje je navodio i vidio da su bili takvi. A bar danas se moze jednostavno doci do informacije i sve te tvrdnje provjeriti.
Za ovo laze sigurno. Kao sto je laz da je kina zabranila google.

Citava frka tice se iskljucivo 5g i cinjenice da ericsson zaostaje dramaticno. Pokusavaju da kupe vrijeme i ucijene huawei. Vjerujem da ce se ubrzo dogovoriti, Kina je ogromno trziste u ekspanziji.

Kako tvrdis da laze a istina je da je huawei lazirao benchmarke za p20 pro, odnosno nastimatli na mobitelu da raspozna kada se radi benchmark pa radi u nacinu perfomansa koji nije dostupan u van toga. Isto i za kamere, za p20 pro uhvaceni u lazi zahvaljujući glumici kako su slikali profesionalnim dslr aparatom a predstavljali kao da je selfie sa telefona.

nosara · Post by **nosara** » 26/05/2019 15:31

Nije huawei cist, kao sto nije cist niko, svi lazu i muljaju marketinski, ali da nije bilo ovog skoka s 5g nikog ne bi bilo briga.

славянин · Post by **славянин** » 26/05/2019 15:46

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strong69 · Post by **strong69** » 26/05/2019 15:50

nosara wrote:Nije huawei cist, kao sto nije cist niko, svi lazu i muljaju marketinski, ali da nije bilo ovog skoka s 5g nikog ne bi bilo briga.

Na kraju, sve su to ista govna sa profitom u milijardama. Jebat ih.

diablobih · Post by **diablobih** » 26/05/2019 15:53

Cuj laze zvaljo, i to je argument. Za t-mobile i Tappya je sto posto istina. A vjerujem i za ove ostale, barem je dao neke dokaze, a ne samo reci, ma kakvi, nije to tako.

Qler · Post by **Qler** » 26/05/2019 16:05

Ja samo mogu reci da kamera na P30 ubija.

nosara · Post by **nosara** » 26/05/2019 16:10

славянин wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websites_ ... land_China

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Vjerovali ili ne, u svijetu postoje prave drzave, koje mogu svakom pokazat kurac, ako im je to cejf. Nisu svi kmetovi. Kina ima zakon koji svi moraju postovati, inace sami odu, jer nemaju profit. To se zove suverenitet.

славянин · Post by **славянин** » 26/05/2019 16:11

Tako isto Amerika odabere da njihove firme ne rade sa nekom kineskom.Suverenitet ? Ili to vazi samo Kina moze a kada to Amerika uradi onda je to nepravda bla bla

Kinezi vrse protekcionizam domaceg trzista a za izvoz galame o slobodnoj trgovini svom snagom.Jos skandali oko spijunaze sa tehnickim proizvodima....

Piklic · Post by **Piklic** » 26/05/2019 16:21

crnivrag wrote:
Piklic wrote:Zasto kazem Sony zato sto ce se dosta ljudi uplasiti daljih sankcija protiv Kine, odnosno da se ono sto se dogodilo Huwaeiu da se moze dogotoi Xiaomiuju i Oneplusu .. ali uglavnom svi ce profitiriati
Japanac majka

Ja sam uvijek gotivio Njemce medjutim dok se nisam susreo sa japancima...

Samo je dovoljno reci da je ARM u vlasnistvu japanske banke softbank

nosara · Post by **nosara** » 26/05/2019 16:23

славянин wrote:Tako isto Amerika odabere da njihove firme ne rade sa nekom kineskom.Suverenitet ? Ili to vazi samo Kina moze a kada to Amerika uradi onda je to nepravda bla bla

Kinezi vrse protekcionizam domaceg trzista a za izvoz galame o slobodnoj trgovini svom snagom.Jos skandali oko spijunaze sa tehnickim proizvodima....

Amerika je jedno, americka politika drugo. Ovaj, po njihovim rijecima, nije sav svoj. Kad ode, otici ce i sankcije. Ako ne i prije. Americke firme ovo nisu svojevoljno odabrale, jer im nije u interesu. Trziste Kine, cak i sa ogranicenjima koje ima, ogroman je potencijal.

250000000 ajfona su ameri prodali Kinezima nakon sto su ih prilagodili uslovima. Koliko je to para?

славянин · Post by **славянин** » 26/05/2019 16:27

nosara wrote:
славянин wrote:Tako isto Amerika odabere da njihove firme ne rade sa nekom kineskom.Suverenitet ? Ili to vazi samo Kina moze a kada to Amerika uradi onda je to nepravda bla bla

Kinezi vrse protekcionizam domaceg trzista a za izvoz galame o slobodnoj trgovini svom snagom.Jos skandali oko spijunaze sa tehnickim proizvodima....
Amerika je jedno, americka politika drugo. Ovaj, po njihovim rijecima, nije sav svoj. Kad ode, otici ce i sankcije. Ako ne i prije. Americke firme ovo nisu svojevoljno odabrale, jer im nije u interesu. Trziste Kine, cak i sa ogranicenjima koje ima, ogroman je potencijal.

250000000 ajfona su ameri prodali Kinezima nakon sto su ih prilagodili uslovima. Koliko je to para?

Pa jesu li kineske firme odabrale da se google zabrani ili vlada, isto tako skoro sve vece kineske firme su pod sapom drzave.Trump je i izabran dijelom jer se usprotivio politici "mi smo otvoreno trzise a drugi kako oce"

Trziste kine jeste naravno potencijal za izvoz iz amerike, ali kakva korist kada kinezi vec imaju tarife jos aktivno vrse protekcionizam kao u slucaju interneta gdje su zablokirali sve ukljucujuci i amazon

.Sto se tice Iphone-a tih 250 mil iphona je proizvedeno u Kini

tako da i kinezi tu jednako imaju korist.Amerika i Kina imaju simbiozu sto se tice ekonomije samo sto je ta simbioza narusena Kineskom drzavnom politikom kontrole dok se od amerike ocekuje da drzi vrata otvorena.

bunk · Post by **bunk** » 26/05/2019 16:28

Ove sankcije i nisu namijenjene da nastete Huaweiu koji se prodaje u Kini .
Njihov cilj je da se globalno destabilizuje Huawei.Sto ce i postici ako sankcije zazive.

nosara · Post by **nosara** » 26/05/2019 17:07

bunk wrote:Ove sankcije i nisu namijenjene da nastete Huaweiu koji se prodaje u Kini .
Njihov cilj je da se globalno destabilizuje Huawei.Sto ce i postici ako sankcije zazive.

Hoce, ali ne sustinski, jer ce jos par godina telecom tehnologija koju huawei ima biti ispred konkurencije. Telefoni nisu najbitniji u prici.

славянин wrote: Pa jesu li kineske firme odabrale da se google zabrani ili vlada, isto tako skoro sve vece kineske firme su pod sapom drzave.Trump je i izabran dijelom jer se usprotivio politici "mi smo otvoreno trzise a drugi kako oce"

Trziste kine jeste naravno potencijal za izvoz iz amerike, ali kakva korist kada kinezi vec imaju tarife jos aktivno vrse protekcionizam kao u slucaju interneta gdje su zablokirali sve ukljucujuci i amazon .Sto se tice Iphone-a tih 250 mil iphona je proizvedeno u Kini tako da i kinezi tu jednako imaju korist.Amerika i Kina imaju simbiozu sto se tice ekonomije samo sto je ta simbioza narusena Kineskom drzavnom politikom kontrole dok se od amerike ocekuje da drzi vrata otvorena.

Pusti internet, bio je blokiran i prije nego sto su firme usle u Kinu, pa im to nije smetalo. Sve sto je Kina pruzila, odgovaralo je svima osim ovom ludaku. Kad ode, posao se nastavlja. To je interes svih koji su ukljuceni direktno. Ostrenje kurca nije dobra strategija za biznis.

славянин · Post by **славянин** » 26/05/2019 17:18

nosara wrote:
Pusti internet, bio je blokiran i prije nego sto su firme usle u Kinu, pa im to nije smetalo. Sve sto je Kina pruzila, odgovaralo je svima osim ovom ludaku. Kad ode, posao se nastavlja. To je interes svih koji su ukljuceni direktno. Ostrenje kurca nije dobra strategija za biznis.

Vidi - sa novim taksama pokriva se 50% uvoza iz Kine prema US, dok Kinezi vec od prije pokrivaju 50% jos sada oce da idu prema 80%.Prije ce biti da Amerika sluzi isti obrok kinezima kao sto su oni njima ali sada je iz nekog razloga to nepravda..

Amerika i EU imaju otprilike iste takse na uvoz - dok Kina ima duplo vece... :

nosara · Post by **nosara** » 26/05/2019 17:26

Takse me ne zanimaju, neka ih ameri deru taksama, to svakako placaju krajnji kupci.

New York (CNN Business)Nike, Adidas, Under Armour, Foot Locker and other sneaker brands and retailers told President Donald Trump on Monday that proposed tariffs on imported shoes from China would be "catastrophic" for American consumers.

"Any action taken to increase duties on Chinese footwear will have an immediate and long-lasting effect on American individuals and families," a coalition of more than 170 footwear companies said in a letter to Trump. "It will also threaten the very economic viability of many companies in our industry."

The Footwear Distributors and Retailers of America estimated that 25% tariffs on shoes coming from China would add $7 billion in additional costs for US customers annually.

Other US companies have also recently warned that additional tariffs on Chinese goods will hit consumers.
Walmart (WMT), America's largest retailer, said last week it will raise prices on some products as a result of the Trump administration's tariffs on Chinese goods.

"Increased tariffs will lead to increased prices, we believe, for our customers." Walmart chief financial officer Brett Biggs told reporters Thursday.

славянин · Post by **славянин** » 26/05/2019 17:32

nosara wrote:Takse me ne zanimaju, neka ih ameri deru taksama, to svakako placaju krajnji kupci.

New York (CNN Business)Nike, Adidas, Under Armour, Foot Locker and other sneaker brands and retailers told President Donald Trump on Monday that proposed tariffs on imported shoes from China would be "catastrophic" for American consumers.

"Any action taken to increase duties on Chinese footwear will have an immediate and long-lasting effect on American individuals and families," a coalition of more than 170 footwear companies said in a letter to Trump. "It will also threaten the very economic viability of many companies in our industry."

The Footwear Distributors and Retailers of America estimated that 25% tariffs on shoes coming from China would add $7 billion in additional costs for US customers annually.

Other US companies have also recently warned that additional tariffs on Chinese goods will hit consumers.
Walmart (WMT), America's largest retailer, said last week it will raise prices on some products as a result of the Trump administration's tariffs on Chinese goods.

"Increased tariffs will lead to increased prices, we believe, for our customers." Walmart chief financial officer Brett Biggs told reporters Thursday.

Pa to je i cilj, sve te kompanije iz Amerike proizvode stvari u Kini - Ako dodju to tacke da je profitabilnije u Americi proizvoditi - samo ce presaltati proizvodnju tamo.Da finalni proizvod bi bio skuplji ali bi imao i znacajan rast proizvodnje.Ameri preferiraju da se proizvod jeftinije pravi u Kini ali nece da Kina samo plasira tj .izvozi njima a da pri tome sprjecava uvoz Americke robe.
Zasto se sve ovo sada desava ? Kineska srednja klasa raste li raste - tako sa njom i potrosnja,ljudi zele vise bolje - pogledaj eto u Sarajevu gledaj Kineskih turista... Kina vise nije samo zemlja sa jeftinom radnom snagom gdje ces da uvalis fabriku i proizvodis - sada Kinezi zele i da trose pare

nosara · Post by **nosara** » 26/05/2019 17:47

Slazem se sve, neka ih razvale taksama, poskupe i prebace sve fabrike u Ameriku, samo neka prestanu da zlostavljaju kineske proizvodjace kineskih proizvoda koji se cak i ne prodaju u Americi samo zato sto su u svemu bolji a jeftiniji od njih.

KB9 · Post by **KB9** » 26/05/2019 19:45

fakat ce mi bit zao (radi mene, ne radi njih, radi njih me boli patka

) ako huawei ne zavrsi kako treba i ne nastavi dosadasnje poslovanje po pitanje mobitela u svijetu, prezadovoljan sam ovim honorom 9 sto imam i ako sve bude kako treba iduci telefon ce mi opet bit huawei, to sam siguran, al ako se promjeni tj. ako nastave ova sranja i dese se trajni banovi, manjci podrske itd valja mjenjat, dzaba je

exampLe. · Post by **exampLe.** » 26/05/2019 22:06

Ako im ukinu zabranu prelazim na Mate 20 Pro.

Boemica · Post by **Boemica** » 26/05/2019 22:15

KB9 wrote:fakat ce mi bit zao (radi mene, ne radi njih, radi njih me boli patka ) ako huawei ne zavrsi kako treba i ne nastavi dosadasnje poslovanje po pitanje mobitela u svijetu, prezadovoljan sam ovim honorom 9 sto imam i ako sve bude kako treba iduci telefon ce mi opet bit huawei, to sam siguran, al ako se promjeni tj. ako nastave ova sranja i dese se trajni banovi, manjci podrske itd valja mjenjat, dzaba je

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alibaba_i_30_godina · Post by **alibaba_i_30_godina** » 27/05/2019 00:32

arnes_king wrote:
alibaba_i_30_godina wrote:
arnes_king wrote: da nije 1,7 milijardi?
Nije ništa čovjek pogriješio, može se reći i 1700 miliona.

Ja telefon svakako mijenjam svake druge godine, taman dovoljno vremena da vidim šta će uraditi za ovu godinu dana.

btw. Windows OS nikada nisam volio, niti sam imao telefon sa tim OS-om. Kada vidim one kocketine bude mi zlo.
To ona nasa balkanska, zasto jednostavno kad moze komplikovano

Nema ovo nikakve veze sa Balkanom, jer da si pročitao nekoliko ozbiljnih ekonomskih analiza znao bi da je isto poprilično u upotrebi. Ali najlakše je uvijek komentarisati kako su to ''naša'' posla i shvatati sve previše lično.

Back to Topic: Postavili ste par jako dobrih klipova i kratkih analiza po pitanju svega ovoga, bit će jako interesantno pratiti u narednom periodu razvoj svega ovoga. Može se vrlo lako očekivati sličnih događaja u budućnosti i sa nekim drugim kompanijama.

diablobih · Post by **diablobih** » 27/05/2019 03:05

Sto bi se ocekivalo sa drugim kompanijama? Drugi ne rade, sto radi Huawei

Ako ti je argument, zato sto je Trump "lud", onda stvarno nemamo o cemu pricati.

alibaba_i_30_godina · Post by **alibaba_i_30_godina** » 27/05/2019 03:07

Naravno da nije u pitanju Trump. Valjda je svima jasno da ovo sve nije proizašlo samo iz njegove glave.

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